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PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« on: December 09, 2023, 07:45:15 AM »
Last night, half the card had these payoffs for the winner. And they still handled their usual $3 million

$3.80
$2.10
$3.00
$3.40
$2.10
$2.60
$4.20

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2023, 09:15:08 AM »
Last night, half the card had these payoffs for the winner. And they still handled their usual $3 million

$3.80
$2.10
$3.00
$3.40
$2.10
$2.60
$4.20

Is this a surprise for you?

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2023, 10:05:07 AM »
If I bet the buggies I would bet M, however Faraldough doesn’t let NYRA take the signal

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2023, 10:46:13 AM »
Take out the cartel money and the handle is around 1.5 million. It gets plowed into each and every race, right before the bell, by algorithm and stacks every pool except show betting.

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2023, 11:07:41 AM »
Take out the cartel money and the handle is around 1.5 million. It gets plowed into each and every race, right before the bell, by algorithm and stacks every pool except show betting.

This is accurate-Gural provides a special rebate for these CAWs accounting for about half the handle

most of those bets come after the race starts, about 10-12 seconds after the gate opens

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2023, 11:34:55 AM »
This is accurate-Gural provides a special rebate for these CAWs accounting for about half the handle

most of those bets come after the race starts, about 10-12 seconds after the gate opens
How would you know this? Betting is allowed 12 seconds after a race is being run?
« Last Edit: December 09, 2023, 11:38:03 AM by wizardofoz »

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2023, 11:38:22 AM »
How would you know this?

Gural admitted it himself about CAWs and rebates-then he didnt want to discuss it anymore
this was a few years ago







Gural and his team has tried different tactics to attract gamblers, most notably by rewarding their most loyal customer with rebates, much like the way casinos comp their regular customers.

WATCH VIDEO:




“Well some people came to me and said we bet $30,000 a day at your track, maybe we’ll bet $300,000 a day if we could negotiate a better deal for ourselves because the way it works today the biggest betters get rebates.”
« Last Edit: December 09, 2023, 11:47:30 AM by Jackie Mo »

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2023, 11:41:22 AM »
Gural admitted betting is allowed 12 seconds after the race starts?

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2023, 11:48:56 AM »
Gural admitted betting is allowed 12 seconds after the race starts?

These track owners would never incriminate themselves, please

most people who wager are aware of this

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2023, 11:54:22 AM »
The late money has been absolutely crushing favorites for past few weeks.

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2023, 11:55:25 AM »
The late money has been absolutely crushing favorites for past few weeks.

it has been over a decade

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2023, 11:59:24 AM »
it has been over a decade

Not like the last month or so. Someone or some computer has been firing huge money in the win pool on some favorites

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2023, 12:03:12 PM »
Not like the last month or so. Someone or some computer has been firing huge money in the win pool on some favorites

Do you think these big bets would come in if they didnt have an advantage?

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Re: PROHIBITIVE FAVORITES DONT AFFECT HANDLE AT BIG M
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2023, 12:07:30 PM »
Do you think these big bets would come in if they didnt have an advantage?

No. They are prob getting 15% rebated on win and if a CAW, are betting after all money is in

 

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