Famous horses

[old guy]

Please Don't give up my friend.
See if you can guess this.
Atlantic City Race Course  early 70's
Aftert the races I walk into the horseman's parking lot.
There just kind of walking around is one of my many idols of that era. He had been there to drive Meadow Split.
I say something like"Is everything ok"?
Who was he?
Del Miller
Why was he just walking around?

[Meadow Ford]

Roland Shorty Beaulieu , Columbia George

You got it 100%!
Kieser's column was the Horseplop of the day.

[Meadow Ford]

Please Don't give up my friend.
See if you can guess this.
Atlantic City Race Course  early 70's
Aftert the races I walk into the horseman's parking lot.
There just kind of walking around is one of my many idols of that era. He had been there to drive Meadow Split.
I say something like"Is everything ok"?
Who was he?
Why was he just walking around?

Yes Old Guy it was Del Miller, but why was he just walking around?

[Meadow Ford]

Live, dead

Right you are my friend!

[old guy]

Yes Old Guy it was Del Miller, but why was he just walking around?

Couldn’t find his car. In fact I have a vague recollection that it was stolen.

[Meadow Ford]

Couldn’t find his car. In fact I have a vague recollection that it was stolen.

Yes you are right about not finding his car. I think we have all been there. I don't know about it being stolen.
Del was a most personable gentleman. He could and would talk to the lowlyest of grooms.
Del went on to say that not only couldn't he find his car, but he had just rented it at the airport and he couldn't even remember what it looked like. I asked if I could help. Laughingly he said "Na I just might have to wait till every one else goes home."

[Meadow Ford]

Two Bret questions.
What horse and driver beat Bret at Springfield and again in CA.?
How many sets of shoes (Said to be off Bret)did his groom sell? (Plus or minus 25)
I can't think of the grooms name, but if you can post it I will recognize it.
Grooms wouldn't lie about the origin of shoes would they?
I rubbed a colt that chased Nevele Pride as a three year old.

It was Gentleman Jim Dennis driving Adios Vic that twice beat Bret. Adios Vic had one giant brush, if saved till last 1/16 he could out brush bret.

[kooter for hipin]

It was Gentleman Jim Dennis driving Adios Vic that twice beat Bret. Adios Vic had one giant brush, if saved till last 1/16 he could out brush bret.

Yeah it was Adios Vic, the scourge of Hollywood Park, however, True Duane beat him once there too.  I was there. The real Redman drove a couple I raced there then up to Bay Meadows.  I have always believed that great horses make there own races and do not rely on fast early fractions. The best of that era after Bret, et al, was Super Wave with Kopas OFF. Adios Vic, much like Always Be Mickey would develop a severe case of of the shorts when crossing the George Washington bridge.

[kooter for hipin]

  Back in the 60's-early70's, everyone used wooden shaft sulkies. 80% were made by Jerald.  What great driver of the times who trained and drove for the Armstrong Bros of Ontario, owned a major interest in Jerald?  He also trained and drove the great trotting mare, Fresh Yankee.

[kooter for hipin]

Yes Old Guy it was Del Miller, but why was he just walking around?

By any chance were you at AC when Walter Kinsey was there?

[Meadow Ford]

By any chance were you at AC when Walter Kinsey was there?

The name doesn't ring any bells.
Was he tr/dr or maybe judge?

[old guy]

By any chance were you at AC when Walter Kinsey was there?

Yes….W D Kinsley often referred to as Fuzz because of his goatee

[kooter for hipin]

Yes….W D Kinsley often referred to as Fuzz because of his goatee

Are we thinking of the same guy.  He was chubby and came up from Seminole with some cheap stock?

[kooter for hipin]

Here's a tough one, I lived in Old Brookville on Long Island, a short drive from Roosevelt.  In my very young years when I was perhaps 16-17, my friends and I used to jump the fence at Orbachs. There was a very gutsy claimer who was probably the biggest crowd favorite. He was trained and driven by jimmy Cruise and came out of every race looking dead lame. Thus nobody even conceived of claiming him until The Hickory Way Stable and George Regan took a shot. This was a big time horse. Who was he?

[Meadow Ford]

OH Boy way to far  back for me.
I am guessing that when you were 16/17  I was back in first grade. I had about 20 classmates then.