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Call Sign Merlin

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Re: Dayton $3.65M Saturday Card
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2025, 09:50:26 AM »
its amazing that Burke has kept Sippinonsearoc away from the grand circuit most of the year insteading gobbling up sire stakes money in 3 different states

I think the size of the state money and allowing dual eligibility has hurt the sport.  The grand circuit races are watered down because you can make similar money staying in your state or going to multiple states.

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Re: Dayton $3.65M Saturday Card
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2025, 10:09:53 AM »
I think the size of the state money and allowing dual eligibility has hurt the sport.  The grand circuit races are watered down because you can make similar money staying in your state or going to multiple states.

You are spot on. The state races have impacted the Grand Circuit but the duel eligibility in KY has significantly hurt the sport. Over time it would make sense to move all the decent broodmares to KY and spread the stallions in the places like Ohio, PA and Ontario.

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Re: Dayton $3.65M Saturday Card
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2025, 11:18:17 AM »
I think we can put the Sylvia is better or as good as Twin B Joe Fresh to bed after tonight. She left them in the dust parking out Sylvia and drawing off. Yes she had the post edge but Joe is just a monster.

Twin B Joe Fresh has beaten Sylvia Hanover the majority of times they've faced each other and when right is clearly the better horse. Sylvia Hanover ran well last night but had no chance with the trip but ran a big race parked the mile to still finish second.

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Re: Dayton $3.65M Saturday Card
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2025, 06:52:40 PM »
Joe has only thrown in one real clunker and that was up at Plainridge where it looked like after huge fractions she was sore and lame coming home. Rests helps and even though Slyvia beat her again at the Big M objectively she wasnt that bad. Sometimes we expect them to be superhuman. They all have bad days.  Looks like they meet again in Allerage and then in Breeders Crown. I wonder if Twin B skips out on the Fanduel and heads to retirement...does she truly have anything to prove. Usually when the mares get to 6 or older they start losing their punch....see Test of Faith

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Re: Dayton $3.65M Saturday Card
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2025, 06:54:55 PM »
I dont know the series record offhand but Joe has beaten her at least 2 if not 3 more times this year and of course crushed her last year. Sylvia of course was the dominant one at 3. Look Slyvia is certainly a great animal but both of them at their peak, Joe has proven it over time. 

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Re: Dayton $3.65M Saturday Card
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2025, 06:58:14 PM »
I think the size of the state money and allowing dual eligibility has hurt the sport.  The grand circuit races are watered down because you can make similar money staying in your state or going to multiple states.

yep definitely...alot of horses who arent that good are cleaning up with the Kentucky money and never really dabbling on the grand circuit..then when you have someone like Burke who has 6 or 7 solid horses in the colt and filly divisions for 3 year olds he can spread them apart keeping them from racing against each other all that much while maximizing his earning potential. I guess Louprint will race next week at the RedMile so a possible matchup with Sippin or Swingtown or Heist but wouldnt be surprised if maybe other than Railroad Station the other Burke horses skip it.

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Re: Dayton $3.65M Saturday Card
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2025, 07:00:08 PM »
Another monster performance from Ervin Hanover...sets up an interesting battle for divisional honors in the Breeders Crown between him Maxiumus Miki and Captain Albano. Ken Hanover did alot earlier but seems to have slipped but I suppose a BC win could put him back in the running for contention.

Looks like Sabonis has gone awol of late.

 

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