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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: mike on September 24, 2021, 06:42:53 PM
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why does a trainer that had a pile of positives go to the hall of fame just asking
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not the first
wont be the last
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if they didnt put crooks in hall of fame would be empty lol
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Just like owners going to those thinking they will get the special juice. They all deserve whatever they get the loser is the horse.
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why does a trainer that had a pile of positives go to the hall of fame just asking
So you never cheated at anything? Or on someone?
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Horses need suspended for 30,60,90 days based on offense. Only way to stop owners from moving on to the next juicer right away.
The same conversation we have daily, weekly, monthly and yearly and the wheel goes around and around with little change and then we die.😟
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ITS NOT A GAME OR A SPORT WHEN CHEATS ARE INVOLVED
NEED A NEW LABEL....IDEAS?
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So you never cheated at anything? Or on someone?
Never.
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I never understand the concept of blaming the owners, when a trainer gets a positive.
I'm busy working most days. I don't have time to oversee the operation of my trainer.
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Those blue vials may have been shooters for after dinner ;D
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ITS NOT A GAME OR A SPORT WHEN CHEATS ARE INVOLVED
NEED A NEW LABEL....IDEAS?
Black Mafia Family has a good ring it
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good story
I guess carl has been "retired' for a few years now
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ITS NOT A GAME OR A SPORT WHEN CHEATS ARE INVOLVED
NEED A NEW LABEL....IDEAS?
Without cheats to complain about Horseplop would be just another boring site.
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That story about Carl having six horses roped to the fence is not a fact Iceman, come on buddy! tmbz1
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Without cheats to complain about Horseplop would be just another boring site.
I disagree. With all of the backstretch antics it never gets boring. It’s a soap opera that is more entertaining than the racing.
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I disagree. With all of the backstretch antics it never gets boring. It’s a soap opera that is more entertaining than the racing.
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Not all positives are equal. There are plenty of medications that are vet prescribed that can stay in the horse's system beyond what is a "normal" time range. It depends on the horses system. That also doesn't mean it is always performance enhancing. Yes, there are "scum" in all aspects of business when there's money involved. Racing is no different. And, here's an idea...some trainers are actually better trainers than others.
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and yet in thoroughbreds time is mostly irrelevant
as we know their records of 10 or more years ago have not changed drastically
the focus is on the winner of the race not so much the time
even handicappers while time is important look more at the pace of the race and who they beat or got beat by
yet harness became obsessed with lowering the times making it not as appealing to wager on
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Brown Jug I have always categorized trotters and pacers the same. You have the Early types, the Pressing types and the Dead closer types when all the front speed falls apart. I always thought the first 1/8 of a mile determined what the back 1/2 was going to be. Deceleration of the Early types makes the Pressers and Sustained Closers look better than they really are so I like to focus on the Pressing types who show some grit and close into a fast back half.
Thank you Al Stanley.
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agreed iceman, that theory still holds true but to a lesser extent given how the front end speed can hold up even after fast fractions
very few races won by closers now, the pressers are now the closers
the first 1/8 of a mile is important on many fronts and yet most tracks cannot figure out how to show it in the program
the orchard park was awesome in its day