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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Seamus11 on May 05, 2021, 05:45:43 PM
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Show me ... SHOW ME.. how horse racing is not fixed and set up !!!???? 27 to the 1/4.... 57 to the half.... you crooked M ‘ fer’s !!! That hole to tuck in to was the size of Anna Nichole’s Snushi !!! Great ride, idiots !!!
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Deslandes and Stevenson should both be called in by the judges.......and given days for stupitidy ..and for not giving the bettor a fair shake.
The trainers and owners should also be pissed at them
That kind of a trip , takes a lot out a horse
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I hope today wil not be a representation of what cumberland will be simulcasting, not just the 4th race but others as well.Made me embarrassed to admit i'm a Mainer, and yes i'm stupid but i'm not the only one.
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Stubborn drivers, both wanted the front. They finished last. First time I have seen that in a while. Glad I did not bet the race. Handle has been excellent.
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I thought the rest of the races were well run.
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10 races, favorites win 4, 3 seconds, 2 thirds, one out of the money.
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Its hard not to use Switzer , Ranger and the 2 Campbells in any race, or Deslandes with a Butterfield horse and Gary Mosher, when he wants to be in the race. One of them is always the race favorite, and they are usually part of the number
Nick Graffam is better at Plainridge
Even with favorites 1st and 2nd in many races, the tris and supers paid very well
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Point being.... you idiots up there in Maine bitch all the time about “poor me... nowhere to race...” who in their right mind would bet on your bullshit races with shit like that????
Call the Amish... then end it !!
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Deslandes and Stevenson should both be called in by the judges.......and given days for stupitidy ..and for not giving the bettor a fair shake.
The trainers and owners should also be pissed at them
That kind of a trip , takes a lot out a horse
If you leave against Deslandes you better make the front,he would not let hes mother go.
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very stupid race indeed. gary mosher is another driver with talent but needs to hang it up. when he wants to be in a race hes great yet most of the time he going thru the motions with no effort. the driver coloney is pretty good overall. bangor has been true to form mostly. hope cumberland is form full too. saturdays card is unbettable. looks like every race has a lot of questions. im just watching and hope for good things. saw they are having a pick 5 and pick 4. i hope cumberland gets $ from off track. if not pick 5,and 4 will be worthless. i love those bets when a track has a good handle im just not sure maine is the place for them. fryeburg pick 5 pools were never more than 6-700 which i say pass. im not even big on bangor have dime supers in every race, yes they have been paying ok but another two tickets and wed all say they are not paying much. gimmicks are great only if there is handle.
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Best racing at Bangor Post times are consistent. Drivers are giving 100% Mutuels are providing excellent customer service. The Judges are keeping a close eye on classification and the running of the races. Seems to be the reverse at Cumby as Bangor is out betting them. tmbz1
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Cumby been racing for 3 weeks and the judges haven't hung any paper yet.Everybody must be behaving themselves. I watched deslandes beat the dog snot out of a claimed horse ,obviously the judges are blind.Hope things improve.
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iT'S THE ONLY WAY HE CAN DRIVE.
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agree with both of you. bangor you can actually handicap vs a lot of crap at cumberland. cumby too many horses that should be 3rd best at best in a race, jog and drop to 3-5 on the last jump. i know cumby can be a tricky track to some horses but the amount of horses that are winning like that is at the least odd. bangor lot of favorites but when they dont win the horses go off at what they should. so from watching/wagering bangor is by far a better product. usually i can say i like dan d. but as wendall pointed out he has been quite the abuser in plain sight at cumby. i dont like seeing that. to me thats multi days not a fine.
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Dan likes to win races, which is an excellent quality in a driver. However, he is intellectually challenged.
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i do believe he is a little short in thinking sometimes. the whipping bugs me. years of being around the track, couple taps horses go or they dont. beating them just gets them sour. most mares sulk after about 2 taps.
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Hmmmmm what to say......Well, I will say that everyone in the harness racing industry needs to think about what they do in order for it to survive in Maine. Harness racing is a sport with spectators and many critics. Some people think it is abusive and cruel. Other's think the horses are bred to race and they enjoy it. I'd like to think it is the oldest sport for a reason and that everyone can compete fairly and honestly; however, with any sport there seems to be those who are trying to gain an advantage (Ex. Lance Armstrong, Alex Rodriguez, etc.).
Personally, I want harness racing to survive in Maine. I would like to see a modern track with a convention center, concert venue, hotel, eating establishments, etc. Along with this, I do believe some sort of legislation will have to occur to allow a Southern Maine casino and sports betting. With this being said, we will require marketing, location, and precise signal scheduling to acquire a market across the world. We do have tourists in Southern Maine and they do like to go out at night. We should capitalize on this fact. Honestly, I do think if we are not all realizing that our sport is front and center of being critiqued by animal rights groups and the public we are mistaken. Anybody allowing their peers to veer outside of the box and having them get away with it is adding to the problem, not the future or the solution to survival of the game in Maine.
Anyhow, one thing I can say about Dan is he is NOT intellectually challenged. The kid gets up early each day, takes great care of his horses, and works to get better. His horses always look great in the paddock and on the track. He isn't a boozer or drug user. He simply loves to train and race horses while taking care of his family. He also wants to win each and every time he puts his body and life on the line in a harness race. He leaves it on the track. If he is whipping horses too hard, I guarantee there are others that are as well. This is a judges issue where criteria needs to be be clarified with clear expectations and commensurate consequences for all if the rules are truly broken. This needs to be clear and consistent for all. There is a much bigger picture here......much bigger!
I have been following Maine harness racing closely. It appears there are 2-3 trainers winning the majority of the races. I don't know why this is, but I can say it is interesting. It is also concerning because the "little" guy needs a good piece of the pie once in awhile for them to survive and want to remain in the game. I hope race secretaries realize this and everyone in the sport needs a win once in awhile. I can guarantee if what I see continues, this sport collapses sooner versus later here. There is simply too much great harness racing to the south of us where they have numerous bells and whistles.
Last, I do know Dan doesn't need to use a whip. He knows how to use a whip to make noise, rates a horse very well when he wants to, and positions them well in a race. He adjusts his style to the stock he has in the race. Maine is fortunate to have such a talented drivers colony. We really are. Winning races with cheap horses for the most part isn't an easy thing to do. Some of our drivers are literally carrying horses across the finish line. My hat is off to anybody who is brave enough to sit behind an animal going forty miles per hour and weighs in the vicinity of 1,000 pounds.