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Title: today at Pocono
Post by: arniesarmy on April 05, 2021, 02:58:04 PM
Watch replay. Didn't the 1 go off stride at finish? No inquiry. No mention of it.
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: dinkadoo on April 05, 2021, 03:02:34 PM
Beat me to starting topic

It was either 1step before finish or one after. 

As soon as Marcus turned horse on backside it was already official.
Not worth even a look ?

I would say the judges are either Geniuses and needed no help
Or
They weren’t watching !

Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: Pinkman on April 05, 2021, 03:13:16 PM
Horse was in clean pace last 1/16 of the mile big mistake if the judges.
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: pocketrocketwinner on April 05, 2021, 03:18:21 PM
100% Clear and definite infraction. Without a doubt, judges didn't bother to watch the race.
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: MR.DALRAE on April 05, 2021, 03:29:35 PM
Par for course at that joint
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: JUICEJUNKIES on April 05, 2021, 03:32:06 PM
There are no judges at Pocono Downs.   
The drivers draw up the race beforehand.

When its over the divide up whatever they could steal.
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: arniesarmy on April 05, 2021, 03:46:03 PM
Sure looks like it. That horse won't be getting any favors there for a while. Had a 6-7 per which would have been put up if they had acted correctly and taken the 1 down.
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: arniesarmy on April 05, 2021, 04:02:20 PM
This announcer is clueless. A spill in the 13th race, horse runs off the track, no mention. No inquiry. Christ. Is he just reading a script?
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: LUCPARK on April 05, 2021, 04:22:03 PM
POCONO..MEADOWS..

CHESTER

UNBETABLE AND CERTAINLY UNWATCHABLE

IT'S HARNESS RACINGS VERSION OF

WWF..

 tmbz1
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: Foalin at 4 on April 05, 2021, 04:23:04 PM
George was up and walking but horse was flying towards the fence, I hope she's ok !
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: LUCPARK on April 05, 2021, 04:23:52 PM
G NAP

LEFT BIGM FOR THE HILLS OF POCONO 73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2

HE KNEW THAT SHIT AND BUDDY BUDDY SYSTEM OF PA WAS A NO GO AT BIGM
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: LWC on April 05, 2021, 05:00:34 PM
There were multiple objections called into the judges for that race as well.  I know for sure Kakaley and the trainers for the would-be winner and second place finisher for those races. Judges told them, "Nothing we can do... already declared offical.  BUT we will reexamine for purse distribution." So trainers, drivers probably be alright. Bettors with actual winning tix fucked...
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on April 05, 2021, 05:56:28 PM
that was as bad as it gets
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: comeonman on April 05, 2021, 06:06:28 PM
Wow .you guys are on crack. He was not off stride before wire, ...Once your nose hits wire you can fall down. Nothing else matters. Horse legs body tail hoofs nothing matters . Driver can fall off. Once nose hits wire its over
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: LWC on April 05, 2021, 06:15:33 PM
Wow .you guys are on crack. He was not off stride before wire, ...Once your nose hits wire you can fall down. Nothing else matters. Horse legs body tail hoofs nothing matters . Driver can fall off. Once nose hits wire its over

Dude... the horse was ON THE PACE the entire last 1/16.  He is a TROTTER in a trot race. Good news though, you're probably qualified to be a Pocono judge.  Apparently, they can't differentiate between the two gaits either!
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: shotgunner on April 05, 2021, 06:18:10 PM
POCONO..MEADOWS..

CHESTER

UNBETABLE AND CERTAINLY UNWATCHABLE

IT'S HARNESS RACINGS VERSION OF

WWF..

 tmbz1
Meadows =/= Poc and Chester. Controlled and ran completely different.

Your trainer tried to cripple a horse after you sold it for 50k. Now that's some WWF shit.
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: comeonman on April 05, 2021, 06:18:52 PM
Ok my bad was just looking at bobble at wire. My mistake
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: Kirby's Ace on April 05, 2021, 06:25:30 PM
I just went and watch the replay and you're correct the trotter was pacing before the wire. The break could go either way but the pacing infraction was clear as day!

 tmbz1
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: dinkadoo on April 05, 2021, 09:18:10 PM
Wow .you guys are on crack. He was not off stride before wire, ...Once your nose hits wire you can fall down. Nothing else matters. Horse legs body tail hoofs nothing matters . Driver can fall off. Once nose hits wire its over
from the angle I couldn’t tell where wire was. You could see the last five steps he was losing it. Marcus was doing all he could to hold together.

My thinking was it was close - and to call official immediately was odd.

Announcer last week they had the favorite on the lead ran on last turn and ran inside pylons and he was still calling on lead. I thought he was calling races from his basement watching RTN
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: NJ The best on April 06, 2021, 08:50:02 AM
What about the George Nap dumping. not a word. that was crazy.
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: wiggles44 on April 06, 2021, 11:15:01 AM
He was Pacing
Fuck u betters are stupid
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: Kirby's Ace on April 06, 2021, 01:54:41 PM
Horsemen screw up..Your fined and/or days!

Judges screw up...Oh well!

 11.wp
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: LUCPARK on April 06, 2021, 02:00:53 PM
Meadows =/= Poc and Chester. Controlled and ran completely different.

Your trainer tried to cripple a horse after you sold it for 50k. Now that's some WWF shit.

not my trainer my trainer's in florida

Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: HarnessFreak on April 07, 2021, 11:37:28 AM
The USTA shows horse being first placed fifth for the violation. So I’m confused.  Judges were correct with their placing
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: eyeinthesky on April 07, 2021, 12:21:14 PM
The USTA shows horse being first placed fifth for the violation. So I’m confused.  Judges were correct with their placing

 Nextroundsonme    5    3/1T    3/2H    2°/T    2/H    2P1/NK   1:55.3    29.0   *0.50     Matt Kakaley    Jenny Melander
7    Final Dream    6    1/H    2/1Q    3/1Q    3/1    3P2/1   1:55.4    29.1   17.60     Jim Pantaleano    J Neal Ehrhart
4    Brutal Storm    3    5/4Q    5/5    5/4    4/2Q    4P3/4   1:56.2    29.1   15.80     Geo. Napolitano Jr    Keith Haase
8    Spoiler Alert    7    6/5H    6/6Q    6°/4H    5/2T    5P4/4H   1:56.2    29.1   37.10     Jason Bartlett    Lonny Hale
1    Grapple Hanover    1    2°/H    1/1Q    1/T    X1X/H    X1XP5/NK   TDIS       4.50     Marcus Miller    E. Bucky Angle Jr


Yes  for purse payoff.......but mutuels looked like this

1   Grapple Hanover   15   9/2   $11.10   $3.70   $2.80
2   6   Nextroundsonme   3   1/2      $2.10   $2.10
3   7   Final Dream   4   17         $4.10
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: Kirby's Ace on April 07, 2021, 12:22:46 PM
WTF!

Changed it after official! How is that possible?

Betters still got screwed!

I'd be pissed if I had bet that race!

WTF!
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: towtruck on April 07, 2021, 12:37:36 PM
That looked as ugly as All Time worst !
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: HornbyDuke on April 07, 2021, 01:17:01 PM
Pennsylvania tracks unbettable. Wild west of juicing. Strong indicators of corruption beyond that.If you want to play, I suggest taking half your $ out of your wallet in the parking lot. Burning it and turning around and going home with the other half. ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: NJ The best on April 07, 2021, 02:23:30 PM
Handle at Chester dismal. less than shithold
Title: Re: today at Pocono
Post by: cornishcommish on April 07, 2021, 02:43:32 PM
WTF!

Changed it after official! How is that possible?

Betters still got screwed!

I'd be pissed if I had bet that race!

WTF!

Somebody who could prove they bet the race  ..lost , but had the official winner...should write /contact the USTA and ask them to explain.  UNBELIEVABLE
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