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Title: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 23, 2020, 03:45:58 PM
https://www.facebook.com/thestablecanada/videos/2059218617691322/
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 23, 2020, 03:47:33 PM
BEEF N CHEDDAR
WALKONTHEMOON

NORTHERN BLIZZARD
ÖÖ.

A;LL 3 LOOKING REALLY NICE

ALL LOOKIN GOOD 3 WEEKS TILL QUALIFIERS tmbz1

GOOD LUCK TO AM

AND THE STABLE @CA tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 23, 2020, 03:51:38 PM
everyone is a winner training in 203
all downhill from here
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 23, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
everyone is a winner training in 203
all downhill from here

Cheddar horse is really good

So is walking on the moon

I wish the guy luck

Everyone says heís decent guy

Why not

My pal has a three yr old trotter with him

Heís happy with AM

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 23, 2020, 04:37:48 PM
AM is a zero,,no shot
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on May 23, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
They haven't been in 03 and that track is short anyway. Can the Canadians cross the border with horses?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 23, 2020, 04:53:27 PM
They haven't been in 03 and that track is short anyway. Can the Canadians cross the border with horses?

I THINK HE SAID THEY BEEN IN 08..

THEY RIGHT ON SCHEDULE

,,CHEDDARS LOOK DANGEROUS THIS YR,,IN CANADA

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: pylon on May 23, 2020, 05:40:44 PM
when things quiet down on this site, a troll is always ready willing and able to start up
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 23, 2020, 06:24:00 PM
AM is a zero,,no shot

FEW CALLS ALL YEAR I BET
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 23, 2020, 06:26:17 PM
FEW CALLS ALL YEAR I BET

his horse pop

,,

YES is a very nice trotter did well at yonkers tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 23, 2020, 07:12:49 PM
They do better after he sells them
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 23, 2020, 07:13:19 PM
his horse pop

,,

YES is a very nice trotter did well at yonkers tmbz1

right...but touting 2yr olds in 2:03 is sketchy, even if they make it look easy. tmbz1 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on May 23, 2020, 07:13:42 PM
Hope a better year than last year,
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 23, 2020, 07:15:36 PM
right...but touting 2yr olds in 2:03 is sketchy, even if they make it look easy. tmbz1
I don't think he was touting

I think hes just making sure his owners are up to date

on progress of particular horses

but yes I wood never post the times the trainng in

sketchy iz word of the day
edward
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 23, 2020, 08:10:31 PM
If the races only go in 204,,,,,he will be the king
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 23, 2020, 08:15:29 PM
I don't think he was touting

I think hes just making sure his owners are up to date

on progress of particular horses

but yes I wood never post the times the trainng in

sketchy iz word of the day
edward

YOU KNOW THE SCORE....EVERYBOD Y WENT IN .08 AND A FEW WENT IN 06....THATS ALL YOU BETTORS NEED TO KNOW.  ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: SAW on May 23, 2020, 08:31:44 PM
They haven't been in 03 and that track is short anyway. Can the Canadians cross the border with horses?
I believe the border is closed both ways, only essential travel, so no horses.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 23, 2020, 08:52:27 PM
I believe the border is closed both ways, only essential travel, so no horses.


HORSES ALLOWED TO CROSS THE BORDER
MAY 21
INTO CANADA
BUT WILL HAVE TO QUERANTINE,,FOR 14 DAYS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: helpplease on May 24, 2020, 09:15:41 AM
I believe the border is closed both ways, only essential travel, so no horses.

Horses have always been & will be allowed to cross the border but unless you are a Canadian Citizen & or permanent resident & or an essential services worker (horse people are not) you will not be able to enter Canada. If you meet the criteria above you will then have to go into a hard quarantine for 14 days & they are checking to make sure you stay in your resident. If you are caught leaving your residents before the 14 days is up you very well could be facing a large fine & or jail time. Horses do not have to be quarantined. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on May 24, 2020, 03:26:49 PM
Horses have always been & will be allowed to cross the border but unless you are a Canadian Citizen & or permanent resident & or an essential services worker (horse people are not) you will not be able to enter Canada. If you meet the criteria above you will then have to go into a hard quarantine for 14 days & they are checking to make sure you stay in your resident. If you are caught leaving your residents before the 14 days is up you very well could be facing a large fine & or jail time. Horses do not have to be quarantined.
They can transfer the horses over the border like Check Point Charlie in that Tom Hanks movie?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on May 24, 2020, 04:26:19 PM
Good Cassie can go home sit in the house for a couple of weeks and eat herself into oblivion, till the come for her fat ass
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on May 24, 2020, 07:58:34 PM
well as for the stable.ca, no different than other stables
we will know soon enough, sure some look better than others  but the fact is right now you have a pretty good idea of the ones who are not much but you don't really know of the rest who  can drop the last 5 seconds to get qualified and race
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Manny on May 24, 2020, 08:05:23 PM
Do they run and gun every thing looking for a quick profit.  What is their record for producing top horses?  Did Tony not run for political office in Canada at one time.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Mazola on May 24, 2020, 09:20:02 PM
Good Cassie can go home sit in the house for a couple of weeks and eat herself into oblivion, till the come for her fat ass

Or enjoy herself in her nice home while you sit in your trailor.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 25, 2020, 10:27:43 PM
had one of their "stable stars" racing in bottom condition for 4500 tonight at scioto
didnt get a check. run at the start
im sure that didnt have anything to do with sending him 12 weeks in a row at 2 and 3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on May 25, 2020, 11:53:06 PM
Manny with the numbers they turn out the law of averages yes they get a few good ones but the stable average per horse was not good. If I recall it was 18k or less. But hey they are selling entertainment?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on May 26, 2020, 08:28:06 AM
Mazola, not sitting in a trailer, sitting on my deck. Just got home from a stressful day of work. NOT stressful at all! And I am not worrying over all those phone calls with Navarro or someone else, that were being listened to. She got away with that special yogurt. Hopefully when the authorities finally catch up, she willl have some questions to answer.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on May 26, 2020, 12:00:24 PM
purple
 I assume you are referring to symba , trained by virgil morgan and driven by brett miller
parked 3 wide out of the 8 hole  and broke while trying to get the front in a 27.4 first qtr
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: JOHN FRANK on May 26, 2020, 12:31:19 PM
Sounds like great trip handi. Too bad there other ponies in race.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 26, 2020, 12:40:41 PM
purple
 I assume you are referring to symba , trained by virgil morgan and driven by brett miller
parked 3 wide out of the 8 hole  and broke while trying to get the front in a 27.4 first qtr

yes ....thats the one
going all out for a 4500 dollar purse in his first start
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: JOHN FRANK on May 26, 2020, 12:56:24 PM
Sorry I missed that. The total purse is $4500.00. Why run. STAY HOME. SAVE A PONIE.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on May 26, 2020, 01:51:48 PM
and so your premise would be that amac called and told virgil morgan and  brett miller how to race the horse
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2020, 01:53:33 PM
and so your premise would be that amac called and told virgil morgan and  brett miller how to race the horse

yes egg zactly ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

the hate of a mack is contstant  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on May 26, 2020, 03:06:48 PM
purses are down 25% at scioto, should they not race?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 26, 2020, 09:14:01 PM
purses are down 25% at scioto, should they not race?

you should probably take back and come from behind so you have a horse all season
especially considering the small purse and first start of the year

sad circumstance for what could have been a nice horse
racing in bottom conditions...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on May 26, 2020, 10:10:30 PM
actually his 5th start of the year

Virgil Morgan 6589 training wins
Brett Miller 8554 driving wins

now youíre a better trainer and driver than those 2 huh?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 26, 2020, 10:12:54 PM
actually his 5th start of the year

Virgil Morgan 6589 training wins
Brett Miller 8554 driving wins

now youíre a better trainer and driver than those 2 huh?

  THE GUY IS A JOKE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 26, 2020, 10:16:22 PM
actually his 5th start of the year

Virgil Morgan 6589 training wins
Brett Miller 8554 driving wins

now youíre a better trainer and driver than those 2 huh?

Every yr his horses are  in 6 figures in the black with his horses

You better listen. Heís a guru

Yes heís better than Virgil and better driver than


Miller



Heís a guru

Six figure. Guru

But but but but but but

Never mind heís a GURU

RONNIE GURU ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 27, 2020, 12:32:00 PM
actually his 5th start of the year

Virgil Morgan 6589 training wins
Brett Miller 8554 driving wins

now youíre a better trainer and driver than those 2 huh?

i perhaps can manage a horse better than a driver  or trainer who just want their money now and have different goals than an owner
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 27, 2020, 01:00:14 PM
i perhaps can manage a horse better than a driver  or trainer who just want their money now and have different goals than an owner

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 27, 2020, 01:24:47 PM
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

THEIR GOALS ARE SO MUCH DIFFERENT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 27, 2020, 01:33:31 PM
THEIR GOALS ARE SO MUCH DIFFERENT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

I CANT  I JUST CANT

.. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

MY GOALS ARE SO MUCH DIFFERNT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 27, 2020, 01:40:31 PM
I CANT  I JUST CANT

.. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

MY GOALS ARE SO MUCH DIFFERNT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

I DONT WANT MONEY TONIGHT,,,PLZ DONT TRY AT ALL UNTIL I SAY 9z.lg
MY GOALS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 27, 2020, 01:42:04 PM
I DONT WANT MONEY TONIGHT,,,PLZ DONT TRY AT ALL UNTIL I SAY 9z.lg
MY GOALS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

TRULY RETARDED tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 27, 2020, 01:59:22 PM
TRULY RETARDED tmbz1

remind me the last time you made money in a year

pick any year since 2009.
thats when i did
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 27, 2020, 02:06:44 PM
remind me the last time you made money in a year

pick any year since 2009.
thats when i did

16,SECOND ON SUPERNIGHT

,17  WON INDY SIRES CHAMP,,BREEDERS CRWN ELIM WINNER THARPS MEMOIRAL WINNER ,,

,,19..4 STRAIGHT SIRES DIVISION WINS,,STAR DESTROYER WINNER,,3 RD IN JENNAS BEACH BOY


,,,

BROKE EVEN 18..3RD IN SUPERFINAL WON THE PEONY FINAL FILLY WON 7 OUT OF 8 RACES,,

 13,,14,,15,,,DECENT YRS,,WON GOVERNORS CUP AND VOILET

11,,WON KYSS  250K,,

MADE MONEY ALL THOSE YRS

I NEVER LIE

I DDINT HAVE 44 TRAINER SIN 10 YRS LIKE YOU tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3

POST YOUR PLS tmbz1

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 27, 2020, 02:18:56 PM
16,SECOND ON SUPERNIGHT

,17  WON INDY SIRES CHAMP,,BREEDERS CRWN ELIM WINNER THARPS MEMOIRAL WINNER ,,

,,19..4 STRAIGHT SIRES DIVISION WINS,,STAR DESTROYER WINNER,,3 RD IN JENNAS BEACH BOY


,,,

BROKE EVEN 18..3RD IN SUPERFINAL WON THE PEONY FINAL FILLY WON 7 OUT OF 8 RACES,,

 13,,14,,15,,,DECENT YRS,,WON GOVERNORS CUP AND VOILET

11,,WON KYSS  250K,,

MADE MONEY ALL THOSE YRS

I NEVER LIE

I DDINT HAVE 44 TRAINER SIN 10 YRS LIKE YOU tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3

POST YOUR PLS tmbz1

HES TRYNA FIND THEM
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 27, 2020, 02:44:52 PM
16,SECOND ON SUPERNIGHT

,17  WON INDY SIRES CHAMP,,BREEDERS CRWN ELIM WINNER THARPS MEMOIRAL WINNER ,,

,,19..4 STRAIGHT SIRES DIVISION WINS,,STAR DESTROYER WINNER,,3 RD IN JENNAS BEACH BOY


,,,

BROKE EVEN 18..3RD IN SUPERFINAL WON THE PEONY FINAL FILLY WON 7 OUT OF 8 RACES,,

 13,,14,,15,,,DECENT YRS,,WON GOVERNORS CUP AND VOILET

11,,WON KYSS  250K,,

MADE MONEY ALL THOSE YRS

I NEVER LIE

I DDINT HAVE 44 TRAINER SIN 10 YRS LIKE YOU tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3

POST YOUR PLS tmbz1

winning races does not equal turning a profit
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 27, 2020, 02:45:48 PM
16,SECOND ON SUPERNIGHT

,17  WON INDY SIRES CHAMP,,BREEDERS CRWN ELIM WINNER THARPS MEMOIRAL WINNER ,,

,,19..4 STRAIGHT SIRES DIVISION WINS,,STAR DESTROYER WINNER,,3 RD IN JENNAS BEACH BOY


,,,

BROKE EVEN 18..3RD IN SUPERFINAL WON THE PEONY FINAL FILLY WON 7 OUT OF 8 RACES,,

 13,,14,,15,,,DECENT YRS,,WON GOVERNORS CUP AND VOILET

11,,WON KYSS  250K,,

MADE MONEY ALL THOSE YRS

I NEVER LIE

I DDINT HAVE 44 TRAINER SIN 10 YRS LIKE YOU tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3

POST YOUR PLS tmbz1

we are EXACT opposite owners
you want to brag about what races you win and i want to make a proft...
its fine ...we have different goals, thats all
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on May 27, 2020, 02:55:11 PM
we are EXACT opposite owners
you want to brag about what races you win and i want to make a proft...
its fine ...we have different goals, thats all
He's saying he's made $$ every year.

IDK,

The guy needs to use his toes to count to 10.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 27, 2020, 03:30:09 PM
we are EXACT opposite owners
you want to brag about what races you win and i want to make a proft...
its fine ...we have different goals, thats all

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

u asked a question I gave u answer

..mr profit guy
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 27, 2020, 04:24:20 PM
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

u asked a question I gave u answer

..mr profit guy

STILL WAITIN ON HIS LIST TOO.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I THINK JOE HAD MORE HORSES IN POCONOS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 27, 2020, 04:26:34 PM
STILL WAITIN ON HIS LIST TOO.... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I THINK JOE HAD MORE HORSES IN POCONOS

he went thru more trainers than horses

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 27, 2020, 06:23:06 PM
he went thru more trainers than horses

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

dont you ever got tired of being wrong about everything??
man that would get discouraging you would think...
or maybe you just keep trying so that the next time you can be right about something to make up for all the pain of being wrong every other time...
heres a hint,...it wont happen, you are destined to be wrong, you dont have the brain capactity to make good decisions or see things correctly
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 27, 2020, 06:59:10 PM
dont you ever got tired of being wrong about everything??
man that would get discouraging you would think...
or maybe you just keep trying so that the next time you can be right about something to make up for all the pain of being wrong every other time...
heres a hint,...it wont happen, you are destined to be wrong, you dont have the brain capactity to make good decisions or see things correctly

   WHAT KINDA PATTERNS WILL YOU BE SEEING THIS YEAR?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 27, 2020, 07:10:40 PM
   WHAT KINDA PATTERNS WILL YOU BE SEEING THIS YEAR?


not much to see so far..takes time for a pattern to develop
looks like this hitchcock fellow is going to have a big meet
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on May 27, 2020, 07:16:22 PM

not much to see so far..takes time for a pattern to develop
looks like this hitchcock fellow is going to have a big meet
fwiw,

This reads less credible than a drunken IceFag name drop post.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 27, 2020, 07:18:51 PM
   WHAT KINDA PATTERNS WILL YOU BE SEEING THIS YEAR?

judging by symbas race i see a pattern that the stable.ca will be going all out in every race and very few of their horses will get a dozen starts in
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 27, 2020, 07:19:14 PM

not much to see so far..takes time for a pattern to develop
looks like this hitchcock fellow is going to have a big meet

Alfred?
who's he training; Master Bates?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 27, 2020, 07:23:50 PM
judging by symbas race i see a pattern that the stable.ca will be going all out in every race and very few of their horses will get a dozen starts in

Well, it is almost June.  the 2 year olds wont get that many starts in and if you think they should then you are a hypocrit for complaining about over racing them.
the 3 year olds should all get 12 starts in - even at 3 a month, and the older horses will get that few starts in -

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 27, 2020, 07:32:45 PM
Well, it is almost June.  the 2 year olds wont get that many starts in and if you think they should then you are a hypocrit for complaining about over racing them.
the 3 year olds should all get 12 starts in - even at 3 a month, and the older horses will get that few starts in -

i dont respond to trolls
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 27, 2020, 07:51:50 PM
fwiw,

This reads less credible than a drunken IceFag name drop post.

ok...i'm gonna laugh here. ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
now fuck off tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on May 27, 2020, 09:48:07 PM
They sell entertainment so no need to have a winning year because average earnings were18k or less on 2 or olds last year. There having a fire sale to private clients to rid the 1400 open shares. I imagine the sales will be much different especially since prices will be lower. They can't buy 100 8-10k priced yearly?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 27, 2020, 10:17:52 PM
You get what you pay for,,,Just look at the stumble bun trainers they use


Most expensive thing in the world is cheap help
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 27, 2020, 11:37:26 PM
i dont respond to trolls
come on - you just don't like it when you get called out when you make all these stupid fuckin comments all due to your disdain with Amac and your purported superior ability to manage a stable. You doubt any will even get 12 starts . what a fucking stupid comment.   
Then you tell the fishing king that he hasn't made any money with his stock at all and he shows you the answer. 
you are an easy target - -its like shooting fish in a pot.
 
Your Ultracrepidariani sm on training is the issue pal (and of course your feud with the Stable or Amac which you have bemoaned more times).  The Care and Training of the Trotter and Pacer on USTA is a little outdated - you should probably offer to publish your version;

I will wait for your usual when your Sophomania kicks in



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 28, 2020, 09:19:38 AM
come on - you just don't like it when you get called out when you make all these stupid fuckin comments all due to your disdain with Amac and your purported superior ability to manage a stable. You doubt any will even get 12 starts . what a fucking stupid comment.   
Then you tell the fishing king that he hasn't made any money with his stock at all and he shows you the answer. 
you are an easy target - -its like shooting fish in a pot.
 
Your Ultracrepidariani sm on training is the issue pal (and of course your feud with the Stable or Amac which you have bemoaned more times).  The Care and Training of the Trotter and Pacer on USTA is a little outdated - you should probably offer to publish your version;

I will wait for your usual when your Sophomania kicks in

 tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 28, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
come on - you just don't like it when you get called out when you make all these stupid fuckin comments all due to your disdain with Amac and your purported superior ability to manage a stable. You doubt any will even get 12 starts . what a fucking stupid comment.   
Then you tell the fishing king that he hasn't made any money with his stock at all and he shows you the answer. 
you are an easy target - -its like shooting fish in a pot.
 
Your Ultracrepidariani sm on training is the issue pal (and of course your feud with the Stable or Amac which you have bemoaned more times).  The Care and Training of the Trotter and Pacer on USTA is a little outdated - you should probably offer to publish your version;

I will wait for your usual when your Sophomania kicks in

i am not one to back down or not explain my pov.
just not going to waste my time with a troll, mr 4 posts
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 28, 2020, 06:41:24 PM
i am not one to back down or not explain my pov.
just not going to waste my time with a troll, mr 4 posts

come on pal - I have trolled, I mean corrected you way more times than that.  Heck at least 4 times on the Bottle of Red topic when you said he snotted her, she wouldnt come back and how you would have taken her right to the back (and she won next start), 6 times when the topic was about their international winner, 8 times on the topic of anthony keeps robbing his owners and your yapping about your 6500 bill on a maiden, , at least 5 times on the mixed sale and how you could have gotten more, 12 times on how you have an eagle eye at sales and he just buys cheap horses for bills, etc., etc., .

See the PW reset unfortunately doesnt keep track of posts.  Dont humble yourself to think I sat here for 8 years waiting to respond to your dribble -  so see you next topic (invariably on the same subject).


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 28, 2020, 07:03:53 PM
i am not one to back down or not explain my pov.
just not going to waste my time with a troll, mr 4 posts

AMAC KICKIN YOUR ASS?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on May 28, 2020, 07:09:07 PM
come on pal - I have trolled, I mean corrected you way more times than that.  Heck at least 4 times on the Bottle of Red topic when you said he snotted her, she wouldnt come back and how you would have taken her right to the back (and she won next start), 6 times when the topic was about their international winner, 8 times on the topic of anthony keeps robbing his owners and your yapping about your 6500 bill on a maiden, , at least 5 times on the mixed sale and how you could have gotten more, 12 times on how you have an eagle eye at sales and he just buys cheap horses for bills, etc., etc., .

See the PW reset unfortunately doesnt keep track of posts.  Dont humble yourself to think I sat here for 8 years waiting to respond to your dribble -  so see you next topic (invariably on the same subject).
Why change User Name?

You convert to Islam? 

Witless Protection?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 28, 2020, 07:17:09 PM
Why change User Name?

You convert to Islam? 

Witless Protection?
lol
seniors moment - you will have them if you havent already - it was PW not username
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 28, 2020, 07:51:22 PM
lol
seniors moment - you will have them if you havent already - it was PW not username

I challenged your boy purple

On 1000 bet

He backed down

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 28, 2020, 08:03:30 PM
I challenged your boy purple

On 1000 bet

He backed down

yes its well documented - countless topics that contain this same, ongoing wager
and he aint my boy - he seems to be more like your boy target, victim, sucker, fish, etc.,

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 28, 2020, 10:20:26 PM
I challenged your boy purple

On 1000 bet

He backed down

one must always ask...what is your goal/target
yes, you will have a horse make more money than any of mine...
i will default that to you...
the question thats really important is who turns a better profit ...
that i will beat you in every year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 28, 2020, 10:33:44 PM
Ok letís forget bout that horse

U pic your two yr.
I will pick one of mine

Nobody has raced 

Simple bet. 500

Which two yr old makes more money this yr

U gotta own the horse

Joshua
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 28, 2020, 10:40:30 PM
Ok letís forget bout that horse

U pic your two yr.
I will pick one of mine

Nobody has raced 

Simple bet. 500

Which two yr old makes more money this yr

U gotta own the horse

Joshua

you really are retarded
it doesnt matter who has one horse that makes more...
courant will have us both beat....but they also will lose thousands...becau se all they want is to win prestigous races....like you

i dont give a damn about winning stakes...im trying to turn a profit...
and that i will beat you in
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on May 28, 2020, 11:52:35 PM
Real doctor maybe purple deserves some of that medicine or not? Yes seems to have a axe to grind and it's the same stories. But there is some truth to what he speaks at times.  While the stable has whittled down about 600 shares the past weeks there are over 1350 available. Maybe some are breeders but on the street there is north of 600k in CDN dollars to take that to zero. Horses price, training, stakes, sure one can say your getting a final price before racing but one can say its end of May and qualifying is in a couple weeks and there are reasons those shares exist. I'm not sure the big trainers would ever allow that? They buy there horses and owners seem to be in once the first months bill is due. Whether there is a big fire sale to clean that up most of those horses start racing elsewhere and someone will have to pay a real bill to a new trainer.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 29, 2020, 09:40:44 AM
the stable disinigrates this year
and his get out of jail free card will be the pandemic
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on May 29, 2020, 02:41:43 PM
perhaps
but lets be honest every politician and business person will blame the pandemic for anything bad in the next 5 years
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 29, 2020, 03:55:25 PM
the stable disinigrates this year
and his get out of jail free card will be the pandemic

actually i think it will a lot of people's potential "get out of jail".  I do think that the 2 year olds everywhere within reason should still be on their original schedules (not many changes). 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 29, 2020, 05:37:48 PM
actually i think it will a lot of people's potential "get out of jail".  I do think that the 2 year olds everywhere within reason should still be on their original schedules (not many changes).

all 2 yr olds should be on schedule

many good 3 and 4 yr old races

postponed or terminated
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on May 29, 2020, 10:52:37 PM
There are changes IN one less leg and less money for those legs. NY was to announce changes to their SS and I thought I heard no racing at Buffalo. NJ and ONT have government funding maybe no change. OH possibly no changes and PA just getting on board weeks away from knowing anything as racing gets the green light. Whether the 3 and 4 year olds miss any racing there are schedule potential overlapping or very little down time between starts if they are cramming races in.

What will be interesting is if any track has a virus outbreak if its swept under the tug quicker then a rash of contamination positives.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on May 30, 2020, 06:39:20 AM
the stable disinigrates this year
and his get out of jail free card will be the pandemic
Your absolutely right and I have been on board with you about this thing blowing up. Where is Anthony and his pearly white smile these days, people have been talking about how he is trying to make like things are all good but you can see in his face he knows this gig is done, he's a bundle of nerves. Looks good on him for playing this pyramid scheme but what it more than likely does is put the rat out of the game and good riddance.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 30, 2020, 07:45:57 AM
Your absolutely right and I have been on board with you about this thing blowing up. Where is Anthony and his pearly white smile these days, people have been talking about how he is trying to make like things are all good but you can see in his face he knows this gig is done, he's a bundle of nerves. Looks good on him for playing this pyramid scheme but what it more than likely does is put the rat out of the game and good riddance.

i dont see the stable star knockdown dragout qualifying at meadowlands today
who is going to be the flagship for the stable this year?
500 horses purchased and not 1 horse that you can hang your hat on?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 30, 2020, 09:40:21 AM
i dont see the stable star knockdown dragout qualifying at meadowlands today
who is going to be the flagship for the stable this year?
500 horses purchased and not 1 horse that you can hang your hat on?

actually she is into QUA on Monday at mohawk and I don't think she is the flagship horse? 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on May 30, 2020, 11:07:40 AM
She was filled with lot of hype and her shares were priced heavily when she sold out. By far the most touted horse as a 2yr old last year into qualifiers.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: JOHN FRANK on May 30, 2020, 11:19:05 AM
NO one gives a SHIT about QUALIFIERS and openin racin.
Are you QUEER FUCS aware whats going on in this COUNTRY.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 30, 2020, 01:07:25 PM
actually she is into QUA on Monday at mohawk and I don't think she is the flagship horse?

then who is the flagship horse?

they have bought at least 500 shouldnt there be a few flagships?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 30, 2020, 03:38:33 PM
then who is the flagship horse?

they have bought at least 500 shouldnt there be a few flagships?

killing u aint it he kicked u out

that's what Canadian guys told me ,,weds night
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 30, 2020, 04:06:13 PM
killing u aint it he kicked u out

that's what Canadian guys told me ,,weds night

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 30, 2020, 04:14:03 PM
killing u aint it he kicked u out

that's what Canadian guys told me ,,weds night

as usual...wrong
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 30, 2020, 04:15:42 PM
dont you ever get tired of being wrong about things

guess if you have no pride it wouldnt matter
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 30, 2020, 04:15:51 PM
as usual...wrong

  He's not wrong on this one.  Word get's around and you know it.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 30, 2020, 04:55:14 PM
then who is the flagship horse?

they have bought at least 500 shouldnt there be a few flagships?
[/quote

well i guess the 500 they bought is a cumulative total - which seems high - if they have 130 horses, does that mean 370 horses have been moved in the last 4 years?

Swandre the Giant  - pretty good horse -
Lawmaker - not a bad horse -think I saw him in the Hambo- who did you have in there?
Globetrotting - she wasnt a bad horse - arguably the best or second best 2 yr. old trotting filly in Ohio last year - tough luck in final
Yes - not a bad horse - think he won some opens at some good tracks


the first three I would say arent bad - the fourth one has a world record
I realize its not a Takter resume but its not that bad - something tells me you werent in on any of those ones?






Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on May 30, 2020, 07:26:59 PM
all the unsold shares have to be an issue especially with cash flow
as for a flagship horse that is hard to do when you pay between $15k and $35 k
as with any business if you are not profitable than time runs out, if horses were making money than people carry on but when horses are not turning a profit it is hard to invest more dollars in yearlings and now the corvid 19 has meant no cash for 10 weeks  so its on thin ice
the verdict will be determined in a few months when the horses hit the track, are they as competitive as he suggests or do they fall short against better bred from bigger stables
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 30, 2020, 07:58:50 PM
HES TOLD HIS LAST LIE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 30, 2020, 08:21:44 PM
  He's not wrong on this one.  Word get's around and you know it.

He is wrong,,,,Lucpark doesn't know one Canuck,,,,,,He still thinks Toronto is a suburb of Detroit,,,,,,Plus purple outbid him twice at the Meds,,Fact
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on May 30, 2020, 08:33:56 PM
He knows me and I'm a Canuck tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 30, 2020, 08:38:56 PM
He is wrong,,,,Lucpark doesn't know one Canuck,,,,,,He still thinks Toronto is a suburb of Detroit,,,,,,Plus purple outbid him twice at the Meds,,Fact

if i want a horse i take him..
.

hes never out bid me on anyhting anywhere

those are facts
junior

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 30, 2020, 08:50:08 PM
That's what he told me,,, I know purple a long time,,,he doesn't lie
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 30, 2020, 09:56:50 PM
That's what he told me,,, I know purple a long time,,,he doesn't lie

im alot of things but one thing im not is a liar
lawmaker...not with the stable..
swandre....never was with the stable
globtrotting...ma de some money last year, we will see how she comes back
yes did well because yonkers has giant pursues. i can name 5 trainers with 5 or 6 20 or 30 claimers that made more money than yes last year

out of 500 horses thats not enough

how about the 6 horses that qualified today....1 of them came home faster than 29.2
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 30, 2020, 10:04:43 PM
He is wrong,,,,Lucpark doesn't know one Canuck,,,,,,He still thinks Toronto is a suburb of Detroit,,,,,,Plus purple outbid him twice at the Meds,,Fact

TORONTO IS NOT THAT FUCKIN FAR JOE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 31, 2020, 12:17:27 AM
im alot of things but one thing im not is a liar
lawmaker...not with the stable..
swandre....never was with the stable
globtrotting...ma de some money last year, we will see how she comes back
yes did well because yonkers has giant pursues. i can name 5 trainers with 5 or 6 20 or 30 claimers that made more money than yes last year

out of 500 horses thats not enough

how about the 6 horses that qualified today....1 of them came home faster than 29.2

I dont know why you bemoan everything he does
For someone who was never with the stable - he sure seemed to have a clue about this horse who you say was never with the stable - who do you think broke the horse- Brandon Bates?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA4HXC7a0ik

lawmaker not with the stable ? ya thats why he gave the drive to Miller


as to your qua comment, i went and looked in case you were onto something - you are right two of them came home in 29.2, one faster, BUT then again the track variant was in play and no horse came home faster than 29 the entire card - so perhaps thats a factor?


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on May 31, 2020, 01:17:49 AM
"and NO horse came home under 29 the entire card"? Perhaps you need to take another look if your calling out the previous poster but two came home in 28 and another in 28.3 if we are being totally correct.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 31, 2020, 02:44:55 AM
"and NO horse came home under 29 the entire card"? Perhaps you need to take another look if your calling out the previous poster but two came home in 28 and another in 28.3 if we are being totally correct.

you are correct - they did - ironic in a race that his horses finished one-two - but yes two horse did the entire card (well 3 if the RUS races count). 2 horses out of 35 from the entire card came home in under 29 seconds - none of those two were his horses - thanks for updating that one part of my retort. 

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 31, 2020, 10:46:45 AM
I dont know why you bemoan everything he does
For someone who was never with the stable - he sure seemed to have a clue about this horse who you say was never with the stable - who do you think broke the horse- Brandon Bates?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA4HXC7a0ik

lawmaker not with the stable ? ya thats why he gave the drive to Miller


as to your qua comment, i went and looked in case you were onto something - you are right two of them came home in 29.2, one faster, BUT then again the track variant was in play and no horse came home faster than 29 the entire card - so perhaps thats a factor?

the horse was trained down by anthony, he was not part of the stable...but keep trying to twist the story...and lawmaker is in europe and is no longer with the stable.
and you can defend and deflect but its true. 6 horses 1 comes home faster than 29.2
not much to write home about...
that might be the stable slogan for the next few months
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on May 31, 2020, 10:55:58 AM
the horse was trained down by anthony, he was not part of the stable...but keep trying to twist the story...and lawmaker is in europe and is no longer with the stable.
and you can defend and deflect but its true. 6 horses 1 comes home faster than 29.2
not much to write home about...
that might be the stable slogan for the next few months

so let me see if I get this right
a guy trains a horse - gets him ready to race - doesnt live in Indiana and ships him to a trainer there, the owners are still the same owners that were with the horse when anthony broke and trained him and that doesnt count?

The guy trains and mostly drives a horse for 2 years, gets him into the Hambo, then sells him and that doesnt count

you said they've never had a flagship horse - maybe you mean you arent sure who it will be this year - is that what you are attempting to articulate ?  just asking.

Rocco - Rock N Tony doesnt count for your resume - you sold him (smart move).

I dont care what their slogan is - you just keep knocking and wishing ill-will to someone who you didnt have a good experience with but some 700 others have or do (so far). 

Do you have shares in Internet VIP horses?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 31, 2020, 11:31:09 AM
so let me see if I get this right
a guy trains a horse - gets him ready to race - doesnt live in Indiana and ships him to a trainer there, the owners are still the same owners that were with the horse when anthony broke and trained him and that doesnt count?

The guy trains and mostly drives a horse for 2 years, gets him into the Hambo, then sells him and that doesnt count

you said they've never had a flagship horse - maybe you mean you arent sure who it will be this year - is that what you are attempting to articulate ?  just asking.

Rocco - Rock N Tony doesnt count for your resume - you sold him (smart move).

I dont care what their slogan is - you just keep knocking and wishing ill-will to someone who you didnt have a good experience with but some 700 others have or do (so far). 

Do you have shares in Internet VIP horses?

no it doesnt count because he wasnt open to be bought by people of "the stable" and wasnt owned by "the stable"

and yes lawmaker "counted" but now he doesnt...the money that he was sold for was reinvested into horses that arent worth mentioning

and im not wishing ill...beleive me i wanted it to work out...but with the mismanagement, and it only getting worse just prediciting that it wont

and no im not in vip...
i am not in any partnerships at this time...just 21 horses of my own...
but i was in the stable...heavy... untill i saw the ridicoulous bills and overblown promises or horses abilities
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 31, 2020, 11:34:56 AM
no it doesnt count because he wasnt open to be bought by people of "the stable" and wasnt owned by "the stable"

and yes lawmaker "counted" but now he doesnt...the money that he was sold for was reinvested into horses that arent worth mentioning

and im not wishing ill...beleive me i wanted it to work out...but with the mismanagement, and it only getting worse just prediciting that it wont

and no im not in vip...
i am not in any partnerships at this time...just 21 horses of my own...
but i was in the stable...heavy... untill i saw the ridicoulous bills and overblown promises or horses abilities

U GOT 21 GOIN TO THE TRACK THIS SUMMER?.....GL tmbz1
HAD YOU BEEN IN ON A WIN OR TWO, THE SOUR GRAPES GO AWAY I BET. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 31, 2020, 11:42:53 AM
U GOT 21 GOIN TO THE TRACK THIS SUMMER?.....GL tmbz1
HAD YOU BEEN IN ON A WIN OR TWO, THE SOUR GRAPES GO AWAY I BET.

actually had a great year last year...
like every wear
and march was on pace to be my best month ever before the shut down
but yes the shut down has me sour
but still i will point out people who post things incorrectly and that are misleading wether or not im winning
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 31, 2020, 12:19:02 PM
actually had a great year last year...
like every wear
and march was on pace to be my best month ever before the shut down
but yes the shut down has me sour
but still i will point out people who post things incorrectly and that are misleading wether or not im winning

I would take Rockys bet, just sayin.  He can't win a replay..... tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on May 31, 2020, 12:20:34 PM
some of what purple says is correct, he just doesn't always present it well
harness is a tough business to turn a profit in as an owner
the stable.ca is likely not the best spot if you are in fact trying to break even or better
the model doesn't work for everyone, look at what he buys, but if you like to see your horses train, get fancy updates, feed them carrots etc while not worrying about the bottom line have at it , they serve those clients very well
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 31, 2020, 12:25:42 PM
ROCKY DONT MIND RIDICULOUS BILLS AND DRONE TRAINING WITH FAKE UPDATES...HE'S A CARROT FEEDER
PURPLE JUST WANTS THE CASH ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 31, 2020, 12:52:55 PM
ROCKY DONT MIND RIDICULOUS BILLS AND DRONE TRAINING WITH FAKE UPDATES...HE'S A CARROT FEEDER
PURPLE JUST WANTS THE CASH ngc3

bingo
well actually i like wathicng my horses train too
but profit is the bottom line
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 31, 2020, 01:02:47 PM
bingo
well actually i like wathicng my horses train too
but profit is the bottom line

  Your profits may skyrocket at any time, but I've never seen his luck change.  As a free advisor...take the bet tmbz1.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 31, 2020, 01:15:05 PM
ROCKY DONT MIND RIDICULOUS BILLS AND DRONE TRAINING WITH FAKE UPDATES...HE'S A CARROT FEEDER
PURPLE JUST WANTS THE CASH ngc3

THKS FOR SPEAKING FOR ME

EDWARD..

ITS MY MONEY TO WASTE,,

bottom line ,,is have fun,,
win or lose we all want to win,,

PS..
dont worry about the fancy videos and anything else

we want to win but if it dont happen

it dont happen

thn we try to buy better horses
 follwing yr
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 31, 2020, 01:26:41 PM
THKS FOR SPEAKING FOR ME

EDWARD..

ITS MY MONEY TO WASTE,,

bottom line ,,is have fun,,
win or lose we all want to win,,

PS..
dont worry about the fancy videos and anything else

we want to win but if it dont happen

it dont happen

thn we try to buy better horses
 follwing yr

im tryna have u guys bet so I can decide how to bet.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 31, 2020, 01:28:09 PM
  Your profits may skyrocket at any time, but I've never seen his luck change.  As a free advisor...take the bet tmbz1.

i try to grind out profits with multiple horses...not strike it rich with one horse

so yes, he will have 1 horse make more than any of mine do..
stupid bet for me
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 31, 2020, 01:36:40 PM
i try to grind out profits with multiple horses...not strike it rich with one horse

so yes, he will have 1 horse make more than any of mine do..
stupid bet for me

  Don't blame ya for hatin on AMac then 73cv.2.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on May 31, 2020, 03:57:29 PM

so yes, he will have 1 horse make more than any of mine do..
stupid bet for me


JOSHUA
FOR 2 YRS U HAVE BEEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW BAD A MAC IS WITH BABIES

AND THAT U HAVE AN EYE FOR BABIES,,
ETC ETC ETC

OK MR PROFIT MAN

FORGET ABOUT MY 3 AND 4 YRS OLDS,,
HOW BOUT A SIMPLE
BET

your 2 yr old u own aganist 1 of my 2 yr olds i own

simple bet

1000 bet which horse makes more money in 2020

,,

do u have a 2 yr old ,,

1000 bet ,,,mr profit man

yes or no and name your 2 yr old

,,im waiting,,

or you  not sure of your ability to
buy a baby,,

and if I win

IM SENDING MY 1000 TO ANTHONY MAC

AS A GIFT FROM YOU

IS IT A BET

PIC  YOUR 2 YR OLD ,
 IM WAITING

THKS JOSHUA
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 31, 2020, 04:14:15 PM

JOSHUA
FOR 2 YRS U HAVE BEEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW BAD A MAC IS WITH BABIES

AND THAT U HAVE AN EYE FOR BABIES,,
ETC ETC ETC

OK MR PROFIT MAN

FORGET ABOUT MY 3 AND 4 YRS OLDS,,
HOW BOUT A SIMPLE
BET

your 2 yr old u own aganist 1 of my 2 yr olds i own

simple bet

1000 bet which horse makes more money in 2020

,,

do u have a 2 yr old ,,

1000 bet ,,,mr profit man

yes or no and name your 2 yr old

,,im waiting,,

or you  not sure of your ability to
buy a baby,,

and if I win

IM SENDING MY 1000 TO ANTHONY MAC

AS A GIFT FROM YOU

IS IT A BET

PIC  YOUR 2 YR OLD ,
 IM WAITING

THKS JOSHUA

JOSHUA TREE HAS 21 HORSES
HOW MANY ARE BABIES?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on May 31, 2020, 04:40:52 PM

JOSHUA
FOR 2 YRS U HAVE BEEN BITCHING ABOUT HOW BAD A MAC IS WITH BABIES

AND THAT U HAVE AN EYE FOR BABIES,,
ETC ETC ETC

OK MR PROFIT MAN

FORGET ABOUT MY 3 AND 4 YRS OLDS,,
HOW BOUT A SIMPLE
BET

your 2 yr old u own aganist 1 of my 2 yr olds i own

simple bet

1000 bet which horse makes more money in 2020

,,

do u have a 2 yr old ,,

1000 bet ,,,mr profit man

yes or no and name your 2 yr old

,,im waiting,,

or you  not sure of your ability to
buy a baby,,

and if I win

IM SENDING MY 1000 TO ANTHONY MAC

AS A GIFT FROM YOU

IS IT A BET

PIC  YOUR 2 YR OLD ,
 IM WAITING

THKS JOSHUA

Everytime i think you cant get any dumber you prove me wrong
i never said he was bad with babies, i said he bought cheap babies in an attempt to get himself rich instead of buying fewer horses and getting more qualitiy...
i never said i had an eye for babies..
EVERY
SINGLE
THING
you say is wrong
i pity people who have to deal with you on a daily basis
i dont own 2 year olds
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 31, 2020, 04:56:10 PM
Purple remember the guy donít pay,,,,still owes me 1k from the Obama election
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on May 31, 2020, 04:58:29 PM
Purple remember the guy donít pay,,,,still owes me 1k from the Obama election

plus 6-1 on buying dinners, right Joe?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on May 31, 2020, 09:26:10 PM
The list goes on and on
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Rabbi Of Racing on May 31, 2020, 09:39:56 PM
Long list,never ending
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on May 31, 2020, 11:23:59 PM
Lucpark taking a beating here.

Contest:  Who's gonna shred LucPark next?

My pick .... that Webster kid from TV.  Fair match
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 01, 2020, 07:56:46 AM
They are the same height
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 10:18:07 AM
luc screams dont trust me
dont beleive me
dont listen to me

thats what happens when you chime in your 2 cents and are WRONG about EVERYTHING

man i would hate myself if i was that type of person
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 10:38:59 AM
They are the same height
Lucpark 5'3", 195 lbs... can't jump over a pencil.

Webster 4'7",88 lbs... but got crazy hops. 

Fair match.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 10:39:10 AM
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3


I put out a bet

,,

and Joshua

says nooooo,

once again ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

im hoping anthony does well this yr


,,,
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 10:51:56 AM
harness owners

jmvhMFo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wp4ItWi8y4
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 10:58:46 AM
my next Anthony mac thread starts after he qualifies

his babies


until then



keep reading everything I post my little

PIGEONS ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:11:18 AM
brought out the "big guns" today at mohawk...
so far only 1 of the 3 has come home faster thant 29.2
and that one was losing ground doing so coming home in 29
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:18:27 AM
stable star knockdown dragout..
her too couldnt beat 29.2 home

i thought in qualifiers your last quarter was supposed to be your fastest??
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:20:05 AM
brought out the "big guns" today at mohawk...
so far only 1 of the 3 has come home faster thant 29.2
and that one was losing ground doing so coming home in 29

I DONT THINK ANTHONY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR HORSES

AS MUCH AS YOU ARE ALWAYS STALKING HIS HORSES

..U GOT ASKED TO LEAVE HIS BARN
I UNDERSTAND IT STINGS AND HURTS

I FEEL YOUR PAIN

ASK ANTHONY NICELY HE MITE TAKE YOU BACK

I CAN MAKE A CALL IF U WANT ME TOO

IM SERIOUS tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 01, 2020, 11:21:27 AM
Lucpark 5'3", 195 lbs... can't jump over a pencil.

Webster 4'7",88 lbs... but got crazy hops. 

Fair match.

I will subscribe if itís on PPV
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:22:13 AM
I DONT THINK ANTHONY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR HORSES

AS MUCH AS YOU ARE ALWAYS STALKING HIS HORSES

..U GOT ASKED TO LEAVE HIS BARN
I UNDERSTAND IT STINGS AND HURTS

I FEEL YOUR PAIN

ASK ANTHONY NICELY HE MITE TAKE YOU BACK

I CAN MAKE A CALL IF U WANT ME TOO

IM SERIOUS tmbz1

correct me if im wrong...
isnt this thread about the stable and how its doing this year?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:23:42 AM
I DONT THINK ANTHONY WORRIED ABOUT YOUR HORSES

AS MUCH AS YOU ARE ALWAYS STALKING HIS HORSES

..U GOT ASKED TO LEAVE HIS BARN
I UNDERSTAND IT STINGS AND HURTS

I FEEL YOUR PAIN

ASK ANTHONY NICELY HE MITE TAKE YOU BACK

I CAN MAKE A CALL IF U WANT ME TOO

IM SERIOUS tmbz1


you are such a lowlife piece of shit

rather than admit when you are wrong...now its my fault that im paying attention...
you are literally the dumbest most worthless type of loser human i encounter
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:24:35 AM
next time i see you im going to shoulder you
just because...
enjoy
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 01, 2020, 11:25:11 AM
Anybody who gets involved with AMAC just burn your money and save the aggravation
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:29:29 AM
here comes potential flagship globetrotting

they sent this one down the pike ALOT last year
i was always told you gotta be careful sending a horse too much
especially a 2 year old
especially a filly

lets see...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 11:30:21 AM
I will subscribe if itís on PPV
UFC

'Lil Bit Division

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:31:36 AM

you are such a lowlife piece of shit

rather than admit when you are wrong...now its my fault that im paying attention...
you are literally the dumbest most worthless type of loser human i encounter

Iím wrong about what

Your angry cus u got asked to leave barn

Anthony did not want a KNOW IT ALL IN BARN

IT HURTS IM SORRY I FEEL FOR YOU


And now your daily stalking of Anthony horses

U wishing he does bad

Remember karma
 Joshua
  RACE YOUR CHEAP HORSES AND BE HAPPY
 YOUR ON YOUR 57 th trainer

  got them Working on deals? I hear things ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 11:32:49 AM
Iím wrong about what

Your angry cus u got asked to leave barn
I did hear the same thing
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 01, 2020, 11:32:58 AM
He's selling entertainment? The low $$$ average per horse shouldn't be a factor in the success of the stable. Poor q's sure the spin will be otherwise?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:34:44 AM
here comes potential flagship globetrotting

they sent this one down the pike ALOT last year
i was always told you gotta be careful sending a horse too much
especially a 2 year old
especially a filly

lets see...



some race 2yr olds harder than others

its up to trainers and if owners ok with the way

 their trainer of choice does it ,,why u care

again u don't any babies

enjoy racin your cheap horses
and stop giving everyone advice

thks  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:35:43 AM
He's selling entertainment? The low $$$ average per horse shouldn't be a factor in the success of the stable. Poor q's sure the spin will be otherwise?

jimmy you know some don't qualify their babies really hard

..

aka,RW,,

and then u will babies go in 53 or faster in a few weeks at bigm



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:39:21 AM
globetrotting went first up
walked across the wire
didnt post the lq yet but im guessing 31 and a piece??

thats not going to get it done for a flagship
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:39:52 AM
correct me if im wrong...
isnt this thread about the stable and how its doing this year?

yes it is

u seem to be angry with Anthony

why can u clarify

why u got asked to leave

oops

 im sorry u left on your own'
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 01, 2020, 11:40:47 AM
What top trainers donít train hard,,,,Burke ,Tony and Takter and Ake all go hard and they show results ,,,ez training is a thing of the past
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:41:03 AM


some race 2yr olds harder than others

its up to trainers and if owners ok with the way

 their trainer of choice does it ,,why u care

again u don't any babies

enjoy racin your cheap horses
and stop giving everyone advice

thks  tmbz1

i have a blast racing 20 horses all over the country getting my picture taken constantly and making more money every year than the year before...
you enjoy what you do
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:42:34 AM
yes it is

u seem to be angry with Anthony

why can u clarify

why u got asked to leave

oops

 im sorry u left on your own'
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

i already addressed with you that this is 100 percent false
i left on my own for a number of reasons..

but since you continue to spread lies ill keep that in mind as im measuring you up with my shoulder
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:45:16 AM
i already addressed with you that this is 100 percent false
i left on my own for a number of reasons..

but since you continue to spread lies ill keep that in mind as im measuring you up with my shoulder

haha im not comin any more

just to piss you off more

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

no lies Joshua

just stop wishinh Anthony bad

they are not your horses why worry how bout the people that own them maybe they read here

..

RACE YOUR CHEAP FUCKIN HORSES

MAKE A 1200 PROFIT AND THEN TELL US HOW GREAT YOU ARE AT MAKIN A PROFIT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 11:53:30 AM
haha im not comin any more

just to piss you off more

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

no lies Joshua

just stop wishinh Anthony bad

they are not your horses why worry how bout the people that own them maybe they read here

..

RACE YOUR CHEAP FUCKIN HORSES

MAKE A 1200 PROFIT AND THEN TELL US HOW GREAT YOU ARE AT MAKIN A PROFIT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

6 figures a year every year since 2009
but tell yourself whatever you like

if you ever asked someone real from the east coast they would tell you

now know your role and shut your mouth
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 11:55:45 AM
6 figures a year every year since 2009
but tell yourself whatever you like

if you ever asked someone real from the east coast they would tell you

now know your role and shut your mouth
Your flagship horse right now? 

(If you had to name one for a tv intrview)
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:56:11 AM
6 figures a year every year since 2009
but tell yourself whatever you like

if you ever asked someone real from the east coast they would tell you

now know your role and shut your mouth
\\


NAME YOUR FLAGSHIP''

JOSHUA

WE WAITING

 ngc3 ngc3
PICK YOUR SIX FIGURE HORSE

AND I WILL PICK MINE

DONT CHICKEN
OUT

2000 BET ,LETS

MR PROFIT

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

NO FAITH 6 FIGURES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:58:09 AM
NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:58:21 AM
NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 11:58:48 AM
NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH

 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 12:00:08 PM
F L A G S H I P

NAME YOUR FLAGSHIP HORSE

J O S H U A

NO YOUR PLACE

NAME YOUR FLAGSHIP

OR SHUT THE FUCK UP tmbz1 tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 12:00:41 PM
NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH

i dont need a flag ship
i dont pay big money for horses
and im not advertising for my stable
but my best horse is all champy
i paid 10k for him and he earned about 130k just last year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 12:00:59 PM
9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg 9z.lg
NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
Your flagship horse right now? 

(If you had to name one for a tv intrview)
NAME YOUR FLAG SHIP JOSH
Settle down, Lil Bit.

We talking FLAG ship

Not Fag Ship
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 12:02:53 PM
6 figures a year every year since 2009
Do YOU own these horses by your OWN self?

Or are they owned by your Ancestors?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 12:03:37 PM
i dont need a flag ship
i dont pay big money for horses
and im not advertising for my stable
but my best horse is all champy
i paid 10k for him and he earned about 130k just last year

ALL CHAMPY

VERSUS

 RGF

  FOR 1000?

and im not like you

I wish good for the horse hope he does well
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 12:08:17 PM
ALL CHAMPY

VERSUS

 RGF

  FOR 1000?

and im not like you

I wish good for the horse hope he does well

who said i was hoping for him to do bad?

i want him to do well....
but i dont see things going well seeing how things are being done and thats what im reporting on
i would love for his stable to do things the right way and bring new successful owners in


im just calling it like it see it, not ill wishing
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 12:25:22 PM
Every one simmer down, ok,

Now,,,

Bono and The Edge walk into a bar...

The Bartender Says, "Oh no, _________ "

@@ Fill the blank @@@

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 12:37:28 PM
hmmmm

globetrotting was a judges scratch

guess i was watching the wrong horse...

any details from up there?
judges scratch in a qually?
lame on track?
refuse the gate?

shit i would refuse the gate too if they sent me 1000 off it every time
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 01, 2020, 12:40:43 PM
purple
you need to go back to watching his videos,
all the globetrotting issues are on those for the past week
if you are going to troll someone do it correctly and be informed
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 12:46:47 PM
purple
you need to go back to watching his videos,
all the globetrotting issues are on those for the past week
if you are going to troll someone do it correctly and be informed

sorry
luc already called me out for paying too close attention
idk if id be allowed to watch his videos that might be paying attention to something i comment on, which is frowned upon by him
only comment on things you dont follow.....then if you start following too much , call the person out for it

great logic

from a loser moron
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 01, 2020, 03:42:40 PM
I did hear the same thing

fact...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 04:03:44 PM
fact...
Did you see Purple's interview?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 04:07:34 PM


great logic

from a loser moron
You live in your parents condo, right?

Have you ever had a job?

Do you make car payments?

We are told you graduated Junior College and retired to play horse owner.?

With Mom and Pop's Sheckels?

Be a little humple.



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 01, 2020, 04:23:17 PM
Did you see Purple's interview?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

  Yes. Skipped answering why he was asked to leave that barn.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 01, 2020, 05:17:32 PM
Purple is loaded and buys his fair ,,,,not a cheapskate like another guy we know
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 01, 2020, 05:22:26 PM
Purple is loaded and buys his fair ,,,,not a cheapskate like another guy we know

  Kinder than Chevy Dealer?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 01, 2020, 05:24:21 PM
Donít you mean Chevy car washer
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 05:24:44 PM
Purple is loaded and buys his fair ,,,,not a cheapskate like another guy we know
I do not believe that is so.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 01, 2020, 05:26:37 PM
I do not believe that is so.

He owns 10% of 21 horses...HEZ LOADED ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 05:32:19 PM
He owns 10% of 21 horses...HEZ LOADED ngc3
Somebody needs to upload his video. 

facebook, Pa Horse Racing Facebook.

I do not link facebook pages. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 01, 2020, 05:42:28 PM
He owns 10% of 21 horses...HEZ LOADED ngc3

Jerry Silva only owns 10 to 15% of all his horses,,,,whatas your point
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 05:51:49 PM
50 percent.
not a bad interview right???

if you dig deep you can find an interview i did for "the stable" when i was at their open house
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 05:56:28 PM
50 percent.
not a bad interview right???

if you dig deep you can find an interview i did for "the stable" when i was at their open house

DID U DO ANY INTERVIEWS AFTER YOU WERE ASKED TO LEAVE ,,THE STABLE

JUST AXING FOR A FRIEND...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 05:57:42 PM
HEY PURP

CAN U LIST ALL YOUR HORSES PLS

I WANNA PUT THEM IN MY VIRTUAL STABLE SO I CAN BET AND FOLLOW YOUR HORSES

YOU HAVE A GOOD EYE FOR HORSE FLESH



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 05:58:22 PM
DID U DO ANY INTERVIEWS AFTER YOU WERE ASKED TO LEAVE ,,THE STABLE

JUST AXING FOR A FRIEND...

do you know why you are the absoulute lowlife scum

because not only are you wrong about things...
but you keep pushing it even after you are wrong
that makes you scum and worthless
i truly pity anyone that has to deal with you on a daily basis
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 05:58:53 PM
50 percent.
not a bad interview right???

if you dig deep you can find an interview i did for "the stable" when i was at their open house
What is your SOURCE OF FUNDS?

Did you Ever WORK?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 05:59:15 PM
HEY PURP

CAN U LIST ALL YOUR HORSES PLS

I WANNA PUT THEM IN MY VIRTUAL STABLE SO I CAN BET AND FOLLOW YOUR HORSES

YOU HAVE A GOOD EYE FOR HORSE FLESH

no hidden ownership. just pay attention and you will see
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 06:00:04 PM
no hidden ownership. just pay attention and you will see
do you know why you are the absoulute lowlife scum

because not only are you wrong about things...
but you keep pushing it even after you are wrong
that makes you scum and worthless
i truly pity anyone that has to deal with you on a daily basis

THKS FOR DEALING WITH ME DAILY

ITS APPRECIATED

I ASKED U A QUESTION

ANY INTERVIEWS CRITIZING THE STABLE AFTER U LEFT

SIMPLE QUESTION

ASKIN FOR A FRIEND

WHY U SO UPSET

IM ASKIN PEEPS WANNA \KNOW
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 06:00:39 PM
no hidden ownership. just pay attention and you will see

LIST THE HORSES QUIT BE A JAGG ALL THE TIME

,,

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 06:00:49 PM
What is your SOURCE OF FUNDS?

Did you Ever WORK?

i did.
many jobs
now since they stable has been paying six figures i do the stable and coach football
ive been a head coach for 2 different teams the past 4 years and was  an offensive coordinator for 2 different teams before that, including winning a state championship
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 06:01:40 PM
LIST THE HORSES QUIT BE A JAGG ALL THE TIME

,,

stop being such a cheap ass and do a pathway search on me if you care so much
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 06:02:21 PM
just sold the andover hall i had advertised so now do to 20...just an fyi
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 06:02:40 PM
stop being such a cheap ass and do a pathway search on me if you care so much
i did.
many jobs
now since they stable has been paying six figures i do the stable and coach football
ive been a head coach for 2 different teams the past 4 years and was  an offensive coordinator for 2 different teams before that, including winning a state championship

HIGH SCHOOL COACH THATS GREAT

DIDI U SUE THE STABLE

HOW THEY PAYIN SIX FIGURES

JUST AXING FOR A FRIEND

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 06:03:08 PM
i did.
many jobs
now since they stable has been paying six figures i do the stable and coach football
ive been a head coach for 2 different teams the past 4 years and was  an offensive coordinator for 2 different teams before that, including winning a state championship
does your Pops take any profit?

It is his money after all.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 06:03:20 PM
just sold the andover hall i had advertised so now do to 20...just an fyi

WHY NO

PA OR NY BABIES

THE NY SIRES PROG PRETTY GOOD.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 06:03:41 PM
does your Pops take any profit?

It is his money after all.

yes...we are 50 50
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 01, 2020, 06:04:57 PM
HIGH SCHOOL COACH THATS GREAT

DIDI U SUE THE STABLE

HOW THEY PAYIN SIX FIGURES

JUST AXING FOR A FRIEND

high school now
before that i worked for temple football and coached at widener football. but as the stable grew i didnt have time to coach in college anymore
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 06:05:14 PM
WHY NO

PA OR NY BABIES

THE NY SIRES PROG PRETTY GOOD.
pay attention,,, he said that he don't do stakes.

please keep up
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 01, 2020, 06:06:24 PM
Jerry Silva only owns 10 to 15% of all his horses,,,,whatas your point

THE GUYS LOADED JOE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
high school now
before that i worked for temple football and coached at widener football. but as the stable grew i didnt have time to coach in college anymore
Temple?

The TOP Harness Jew Taylor got a law degree there. 

 tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 01, 2020, 06:07:47 PM
HEY PURP

CAN U LIST ALL YOUR HORSES PLS

I WANNA PUT THEM IN MY VIRTUAL STABLE SO I CAN BET AND FOLLOW YOUR HORSES

YOU HAVE A GOOD EYE FOR HORSE FLESH

HEZ FOLLOWING PATTERNS THIS YEAR
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 06:08:13 PM
pay attention,,, he said that he don't do stakes.

please keep up

SORRY
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 01, 2020, 06:09:18 PM
HEZ FOLLOWING PATTERNS THIS YEAR

IM FOLLOWIN A PATTERN MYSELF NOW

,,THE RIOTERS SEEM TO BE COMING TOWARDS LUCPARKS HOUSE AND YARD

HOLY FCK

,,IM CALLING MAYOR GRADY WILSON
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Gregory Rich on June 01, 2020, 06:34:30 PM
Hey, is that the Grady from ďSanford And SonĒ?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 01, 2020, 06:58:08 PM
Grady Wilson,,,, Thatís a classic
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Gregory Rich on June 01, 2020, 07:10:07 PM
You dumb fuck...that's not him...no wonder they were dumping piss on the ground at the Saratoga
Harness testing barn...it was on your watch !! That's why  11.dt
Hey, B Ryan, lay off. I might not be the brightest guy in the world. Never claimed to be. But at least no one ever said this about me: ďHeís lucky his Father was born before wasĒ. And, BTW , why donít you buy a tie that at least approaches your bellybutton. You look like some dumb ass 5th grader on picture day.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 02, 2020, 12:39:15 PM
johann looked good today...
could he big the flagship?

is it sad that out of 600 horses a 59 trotter is holding the flag??
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 02, 2020, 12:48:41 PM
thought knockdown dragout was good yesterday
 and purple he drove them the way you like, taken back and finishing strong
i guess amac was listening to you ...LOL!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 02, 2020, 05:19:59 PM
Itís 600 now? What happened to 500?


for anyone who actually cares, theyíve bought around 250. not 500 or 600
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 02, 2020, 06:39:07 PM
johann looked good today...
could he big the flagship?

is it sad that out of 600 horses a 59 trotter is holding the flag??

why are you so focused on time - one day its about the last quarters, the next time its about the time of the mile - whatever spin you can make on negativity towards this guy, you drum it up.  and now its 600, 3 pages ago it was 500 and any horse no longer in the stable doesnt count -  /\
 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 02, 2020, 07:03:18 PM
why are you so focused on time - one day its about the last quarters, the next time its about the time of the mile - whatever spin you can make on negativity towards this guy, you drum it up.  and now its 600, 3 pages ago it was 500 and any horse no longer in the stable doesnt count -  /\

  He's adding 4 years together.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 02, 2020, 09:52:42 PM
  He's adding 4 years together.

its been 600 over all the years

and if you want me to shuit up stop defending it
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 02, 2020, 09:58:21 PM
its been 600 over all the years

and if you want me to shuit up stop defending it

  We knew you were adding them up.  Was tryna help son...... tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 02, 2020, 11:53:38 PM
Itís been in the 250 range since it started, probably less.

not 500
not 600

itís been going for 5 years

The first 2 years were 20 each = 40
the third year was 40... stay with me. Now weíre at 80

the last 2 years were around 60 each

I know your phone has a calculator and I know it doesnít say 500 or 600

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: The Exporter on June 03, 2020, 12:17:04 AM
Anthony has been straight up from the get go. A way for people to get involved in a sport. I don't recall him pitching it as a profit venture.
 Like anything else in business,  it is market driven. Anyone who buys in does so with full disclosure. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 03, 2020, 04:12:23 AM
Itís been in the 250 range since it started, probably less.

not 500
not 600

itís been going for 5 years

The first 2 years were 20 each = 40
the third year was 40... stay with me. Now weíre at 80

the last 2 years were around 60 each

I know your phone has a calculator and I know it doesnít say 500 or 600


You are so full of shit.

Ill bet you 10k dollars it was more than 40 each of the last 2 years.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 03, 2020, 04:14:15 AM
Anthony has been straight up from the get go. A way for people to get involved in a sport. I don't recall him pitching it as a profit venture.
 Like anything else in business,  it is market driven. Anyone who buys in does so with full disclosure.

Hes not straight up.
Just because he says dont do this for profit  dies not mean he is straight up.
His bills are still higher than he says they will be, and he overprommises a hirses ability wayyyyy more then most trainers, and thats saying something
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: The Exporter on June 03, 2020, 08:54:14 AM
Well Purple , you have the direct experience so, I respect your opinion. It would stand to reason a person such as yourself, a person with years of sole ownership of horses, thestable.ca is not for you. Then again , it was never directed at you. It was always more of a marketing scheme to attract the fan into ownership at low risk. A way for breeders to off load their stock that did not sell at auction. It is probably the least likely way to a champion and profits.
 Good luck in this abbreviated season.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 03, 2020, 09:46:14 AM
Well Purple , you have the direct experience so, I respect your opinion. It would stand to reason a person such as yourself, a person with years of sole ownership of horses, thestable.ca is not for you. Then again , it was never directed at you. It was always more of a marketing scheme to attract the fan into ownership at low risk. A way for breeders to off load their stock that did not sell at auction. It is probably the least likely way to a champion and profits.
 Good luck in this abbreviated season.

Does he still owe the yearling sales money from last fall?
Or just the breeders?
Or both?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 03, 2020, 09:58:04 AM
im mad at Anthony
 im mad at Anthony
im mad at Anthony



he kicked me out
he kicked me out

he kicked me out


I will never stop stalkin his stable

I will never stop stalking his stable


 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 03, 2020, 10:02:57 AM
Well Purple , you have the direct experience so, I respect your opinion. It would stand to reason a person such as yourself, a person with years of sole ownership of horses, thestable.ca is not for you. Then again , it was never directed at you. It was always more of a marketing scheme to attract the fan into ownership at low risk. A way for breeders to off load their stock that did not sell at auction. It is probably the least likely way to a champion and profits.
 Good luck in this abbreviated season.

you make a good point, its not for me
and i only got into it because i dont do yearlings on my own,
but being mislead is being mislead and i dont appreciate that in business or elsewhere..
and thank you for the kind words. qualifiying today. racing friday and saturday!!!!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 03, 2020, 10:22:18 AM
you were not mislead

u thought u had something that u didn't

and when horse didn't progress

u bitched and complained

and cried u got mislead and cheated

thew baby game may not be for you joshie

stick to claimers at freehold

oops that's not for  you either

you complain when u get beat there too tmbz1 tmbz1

I know I know  you gonna shoulder me .

truth hurts doesn't it joshie
 ..baby game is hard

I know ive lost million in it my self



pls let me know if I can help you feel better

stick to cheap horse and make a profit  ngc3

that's what best for you at this point joshie
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 03, 2020, 11:27:27 AM
exporter you are correct in how and why the stable was set up
as with any sport/entertainmnet venture  the people will stop if they dont feel they get value for their entertainment dollars
same goes for sports teams, what happens when teams stink for a number of years in a row,  fans stop going,
this is similar, you need a few horse to step up and make some money
people will pay for the entertainmnet for a while but if they are in on a few horses and  they dont race competitvely than there is not much fun in that
thats the only way for any business like this to retain customers, there just is not enough new people now wanting to step into this , hence the reason so many shares of yearlings went unsold
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 03, 2020, 12:19:49 PM
Brown Jug correct and Exporter yes your right. As Brown Jug explains if your going to sell entertainment you still need a business plan to keep and attract new clients. Knowing your base and how much your base is willing to add year after year. If the theory is I can't buy the 40-50k horses and focus on the 15-20k to find the ones that fall through the crack. Your spending say 1.0mln on 50 horses let's say those  shares get bought. What's the difference buying 20 horses at 50k. It's the same outflow just higher price per share. What the business plan won't say in public it benefits short term having 50 training bills a month then 20. Also means less chance % of the 20 picked out won't hit vs having 50
..even if less quality. What's the difference telling a owner you won a SS race or the lower stake in different jurisdiction. It's still sold as a stake win? Your buying yearlings and there is no guarantee at what price level your going to succeed at but if your buying 50k yearlings by the end of its 2 yr old season that said horse needs to make 100k or close to break even. If you bought one for 15k with less expectations and less staking maybe breakeven is 40k? While selling entertainment you still need to meet some type of bottom lines and there average on bottom lines not good. That's what hurts the theory of entertainment...h ow many times will you see a bad movie? Also not one businessman would allow 2,000 shares sit out in the open through April. 1,300 sit open June 1. While all those shares may not be the stable no one in this business would let the client get 7 or 8 months to decide if the product is good or bad. They are animals and at most times they will look ordinary or bad. It's a bad precedent and I'm sure things will be different come the fall when it's time to buy again. To much exposure.

Whether one thinks the stable is good or bad getting people into the sport is good. But I think what lies in question is the type of horses that get bought when the owner/buyer says in open he knows nothing about pedigree. Reads the black type off the page for two or three generations like it will transfer into the current horse. There are few right answers buying yearlings because you can't really know if the horse has heart to be a racehorse.

If one wanted to get people into the game why not claim horses, pay for a young horse in the conditions, or buy yearlings after a qualifier, race or 2. Something already made and not hope and prayers. A longer process but shows more profit and makes more sense then having over 100 training bills on marginally horses that will never make its cost. Otherwise it's flawed from keeping owners and attracting new owners. After two poor years new owners will say enough or buy way less. The other flaw is you can only sell shares to get out to other clients. Usually a dump job while the horse doesn't hit a sale unless the stable directs it there. Anyone in the yearling game knows it takes money and it's a losing proposition that maybe on average 12-14% make money as a whole.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: The Exporter on June 03, 2020, 06:46:49 PM
In summary, Horses First, I share your bottom line. The song that got them to the dance will not be the one that keeps them there. The plan going forward will need tweaking.     
 Once again, I applaud him on his inital efforts and platform he created.
 If Anthony was to have a equity share in each partnership, something paying cash for 25% and thestable.com funding the 75% at the same value as his 25%. He needs credibility and skin in the game to further this business.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 03, 2020, 10:13:24 PM


You are so full of shit.

Ill bet you 10k dollars it was more than 40 each of the last 2 years.

I said the last 2 years were around 60 each

SIXTY EACH YEAR ROUGHLY

should I start using Roman numerals?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 03, 2020, 10:16:07 PM
I said the last 2 years were around 60 each

SIXTY EACH YEAR ROUGHLY

should I start using Roman numerals?

Don't use Roman numerals.  You will lose the guy.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 04, 2020, 09:52:25 AM
Does he still owe the sales companies money?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on June 04, 2020, 11:38:11 AM
Does he still owe the sales companies money?

You already asked that.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 04, 2020, 12:09:44 PM
Wiggles I can't imagine that's even possible that Lexington or Harrisburg would allow. I would think someone has had to back that? The increase in price from monthly training and stake payments, I would believe that has to come from his pocket? Paying staff and want not. It's not like it's a public company so your never going to know the details.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 04, 2020, 12:33:55 PM
PURPLE - no comment on this one - all the things you were critiquing on the other horses qualifying
good time - good last quarter ? 
let me guess - you dont like the fact he two moved her




1 MILE, TROT.
QUALIFYING RACE - 3 YEAR OLDS

                                                                                         Last
Horse                       HV PP    1/4     1/2     3/4     Stretch  Finish     Time    1/4  Driver           Odds   Trainer
7   Globetrotting=              7    1/3     2/3     2/1T    1/H      1/4T       1:56.1  28.3 A Macdonald          NB J Mcginnis
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 04, 2020, 01:19:06 PM
good mile
done a nice job with this one
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 04, 2020, 01:22:10 PM
PURPLE - no comment on this one - all the things you were critiquing on the other horses qualifying
good time - good last quarter ? 
let me guess - you dont like the fact he two moved her




1 MILE, TROT.
QUALIFYING RACE - 3 YEAR OLDS

                                                                                         Last
Horse                       HV PP    1/4     1/2     3/4     Stretch  Finish     Time    1/4  Driver           Odds   Trainer
7   Globetrotting=              7    1/3     2/3     2/1T    1/H      1/4T       1:56.1  28.3 A Macdonald          NB J Mcginnis

i didnt see you mention alesund or rose run versatile
guess they arent flagships...
or anything close to what hes been hyping them up to be

but i promiose you that the break will be commented on as a "little" break

still waiting for the first real break that isnt a "little" break
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 04, 2020, 02:28:32 PM
WHO CARES ABOUT THE FAGSHIP?
YOU LOST
AND
GOT TOSSED
THEY NEEDED/WANTED PARTNERS ON OVER 600 HORSES WHILE YOU WERE AROUND AND YOU UP AND GOT SENT PACKING?  WTF IS THAT? CRYING I BET....U BEEN PROTESTING MORE THAN A PRIVILEDGED WHITE KID AROUND HERE...DO YOU EVER GET ANY SLEEP?
VOTE FOR SLEEPY JOE ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 04, 2020, 02:33:42 PM
Globetrotting was there one and only bright spot of 75 two year olds purchased last year. Any quick math on 1 100k earner of 75? She is a nice horse but who cares it's only entertainment correct? So 3/4 of 1% should mean much
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 04, 2020, 02:53:51 PM
Globetrotting was there one and only bright spot of 75 two year olds purchased last year. Any quick math on 1 100k earner of 75? She is a nice horse but who cares it's only entertainment correct? So 3/4 of 1% should mean much

would you consider all 3 of his that made the filly trot final last year a bright spot? if it was 3 (maybe it was 2) ?
really, any that made over X dollars is a bright spot   ?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 04, 2020, 03:12:43 PM
allow me to inject a little perspective
as i have said the truth is somewhere inbetween and at the end of the day it all comes down to the horses performance
but please remember you dont judge a horse success/failure on their 2 yr old year  alone
different stables are like cars, some people drive a chrysler and some drive a bmw
if you go buying at the chrysler stable you have a pretty good idea of what you are likely to get
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 04, 2020, 03:21:52 PM
allow me to inject a little perspective
as i have said the truth is somewhere inbetween and at the end of the day it all comes down to the horses performance
but please remember you dont judge a horse success/failure on their 2 yr old year  alone
different stables are like cars, some people drive a chrysler and some drive a bmw
if you go buying at the chrysler stable you have a pretty good idea of what you are likely to get

I once owned an AMC AMX - you wont hold that against me I hope
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 04, 2020, 03:45:57 PM
WHO CARES ABOUT THE FAGSHIP?
YOU LOST
AND
GOT TOSSED
THEY NEEDED/WANTED PARTNERS ON OVER 600 HORSES WHILE YOU WERE AROUND AND YOU UP AND GOT SENT PACKING?  WTF IS THAT? CRYING I BET....U BEEN PROTESTING MORE THAN A PRIVILEDGED WHITE KID AROUND HERE...DO YOU EVER GET ANY SLEEP?
VOTE FOR SLEEPY JOE ngc3

u must be a trump fan because u beleive the lies and call the truth fake
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 04, 2020, 04:02:44 PM
of course not
 the key wording was you said "once owned" not "currently own "
LOL!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 04, 2020, 04:03:01 PM
u must be a trump fan because u beleive the lies and call the truth fake

AMAC IS ANTIFA?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 04, 2020, 04:05:54 PM
of course not
 the key wording was you said "once owned" not "currently own "
LOL!!

my friend - if i still owned that car,  the amount I could sell it for - I could go partners with Purple on a horse - of course we'd argue about who is in charge of managing the horse and he'd be instructing Dave Miller on how to drive it, but everything else would be aok.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 04, 2020, 05:15:40 PM
u must be a trump fan because u beleive the lies and call the truth fake

He is a fan of the Pumpkin
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 04, 2020, 05:52:32 PM
He is a fan of the Pumpkin

I'm white and priviledged,
vote for Sleepy Joe tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 04, 2020, 05:59:45 PM
I don't vote but,,,ANYONE BESIDES TRUMP
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 04, 2020, 08:38:21 PM
Real doctor maybe one of those not the third. More or less they came limping into the final and were not a factor. One was a decent horse the other a also ran.

Brown Jug no you don't judge success failure solely on the 2 or old season but this is a game that cost doesn't stop once they finish that 2 yr old season. You can tact on another 45k to the also rans or non starters at 2. The hole only gets bigger if that 3 year old year isnt a complete 180.

The industry however does treat 2 and 3 yr old years for a sire. Also the % that make 50k and that make 100k. That's the standard. If there was a sire batting .075 with 100k earnings I can guarantee that sire won't be breeding many. This game is all about stats, money, success or lack of success. I know the orginal arguement of getting people in the game but I'm just being realistic on the numbers. Maybe many have really good 3 yr old seasons and then these numbers can be viewed as positive.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 04, 2020, 11:24:24 PM
my friend - if i still owned that car,  the amount I could sell it for - I could go partners with Purple on a horse - of course we'd argue about who is in charge of managing the horse and he'd be instructing Dave Miller on how to drive it, but everything else would be aok.

i never ever EVER tell a driver how to drive a horse
all ill say is " the horse is good" or "lets see what happens"
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 08, 2020, 11:37:23 PM
knockdown dragout
was selling at a rate of a 250,000 dollar horse


easy fractions on the lead tonight in a nw2 and doesnt get a check

going to be some unhappy people on this one


flag at half mast
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 09, 2020, 07:51:49 AM
knockdown dragout
was selling at a rate of a 250,000 dollar horse


easy fractions on the lead tonight in a nw2 and doesnt get a check

going to be some unhappy people on this one


flag at half mast

$650+ per share +HST
No earnings since July 2019
Training bills since then though....

Second quarter in 30.1
Middle half of 59.4
Backed through them in the stretch

Not good for advertising

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 09, 2020, 09:08:13 AM
$650+ per share +HST
No earnings since July 2019
Training bills since then though....

Second quarter in 30.1
Middle half of 59.4
Backed through them in the stretch

Not good for advertising

thats 650 per share nowwwwww

was 2500 per share this time last year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 09, 2020, 10:47:12 AM
LOOKING LIKE A PYRAMID SCHEME

,,I MITE HAVE BEEN WRONG ABOUT THE STABLE

IM DISSAPOINTED IN MYSELF AND SOME PEOPLE'


TRYIN TO FLEECE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 09, 2020, 12:13:19 PM
Owners wanted a new set of hands and after months of training Ake sent her back. Showed no heart last night. Could just be the SK way?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 09, 2020, 03:04:10 PM
amongst other things be very concerned if you own any Sebastian k , so far they are not good anywhere
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 09, 2020, 03:31:45 PM
That is correct a lot of them are hot. Broadway Hall had issues like that with babies but at least some of them where very fast. Just had to handle them a bit differently. But yes the early talent of SK babies much to the lacking. But SK himself never raced at 2 or 3 in Europe and was a outstanding older horse.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Manny on June 09, 2020, 07:17:48 PM
I was just lookng at the stats of the stables horses for the past few years, only one making money is the CEO.  Which is fine as all those penny donators are having fun. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 09, 2020, 07:40:29 PM
500 horses

Maybe 4 good ones right now


Mismanagement
Over promising

How does a 250k horse end up not getting checks nw2?

Well winnjng a baby race by 30 lenghts to pump up price and expectations and burning them out early doesnt help
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 09, 2020, 08:15:07 PM
you lose credibility when you say 500 horses
when itís clearly less than half of that

when you exaggerate by over 100% itís hard for people to take you seriously. try dialing it down a bit if youíre looking for anyone to begin to take you seriously
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 09, 2020, 08:41:51 PM
LOOK AT HIS TRAINERS,,,,,,,DISSASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 09, 2020, 08:42:51 PM
LOOK AT HIS TRAINERS,,,,,,,DISSASTER WAITING TO HAPPEN

JOSHUA TREE HAS HAD AT LEAST 10
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 09, 2020, 08:43:50 PM
THOSE TRAINERS HAVENT BEEN RELEVENT SINCE 2000
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 09, 2020, 08:47:43 PM
THOSE TRAINERS HAVENT BEEN RELEVENT SINCE 2000

CHEAP LABOR AND BAD DEALS?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 09, 2020, 09:49:33 PM
Most expensive thing,,,,,cheap help
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 09, 2020, 10:07:34 PM
JOSHUA TREE HAS HAD AT LEAST 10

just on 2019 ;D ;D
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 09, 2020, 10:25:38 PM
just on 2019 ;D ;D

THATS TERRIBLE ngc3
JOSHUA HAS THE RECORD THEN
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 09, 2020, 10:36:13 PM
THATS TERRIBLE ngc3
JOSHUA HAS THE RECORD THEN
Josh says he outbids lucpark every sale,,,,I saw the video
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 10, 2020, 02:41:54 AM
you lose credibility when you say 500 horses
when itís clearly less than half of that

when you exaggerate by over 100% itís hard for people to take you seriously. try dialing it down a bit if youíre looking for anyone to begin to take you seriously

Ok...300 horses

I think i overestimated the good ones also.

Its 1....globetrottin g

So youve made things worse

I at least gave u credit for 1 out of 100.befire
Now its 1 out of 300..

Dont talk about descreditimg me
Thats a losing battle for you
Ive been in the racing game 25 years
Abs been In the stable and seen how it works.
I race is every jurisdiction thete is.
The best thing for youbto do is quiet down and start lookimg for a new job befire the other grooms do because after this summer its all over
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 10, 2020, 09:56:12 AM
Ok...300 horses

I think i overestimated the good ones also.

Its 1....globetrottin g

So youve made things worse

I at least gave u credit for 1 out of 100.befire
Now its 1 out of 300..

Dont talk about descreditimg me
Thats a losing battle for you
Ive been in the racing game 25 years
Abs been In the stable and seen how it works.
I race is every jurisdiction thete is.
The best thing for youbto do is quiet down and start lookimg for a new job befire the other grooms do because after this summer its all over

GROOMS WILL STILL BE WORKING FOR A MACDONALD JUST NOT WITH A PITCHFORK
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 10, 2020, 11:05:34 AM
Ok...300 horses

I think i overestimated the good ones also.

Its 1....globetrottin g

So youve made things worse

I at least gave u credit for 1 out of 100.befire
Now its 1 out of 300..

Dont talk about descreditimg me
Thats a losing battle for you
Ive been in the racing game 25 years
Abs been In the stable and seen how it works.
I race is every jurisdiction thete is.
The best thing for youbto do is quiet down and start lookimg for a new job befire the other grooms do because after this summer its all over
Breh,

I watched your video on the Youtube. 

Is it too late to take it down?

You look awful.

And sound worse.

If anybody told you that it was good, run away from them.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 10, 2020, 11:10:06 AM
Breh,

I watched your video on the Youtube. 

Is it too late to take it down?

You look awful.

And sound worse.

If anybody told you that it was good, run away from them.

  Looked trashed. Even a bad haircut couldn't help.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 10, 2020, 11:25:01 AM
  Looked trashed. Even a bad haircut couldn't help.
Can't he pilfer a measly couple thousand more from his Pops to get cleaned up?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 10, 2020, 02:28:15 PM
  Looked trashed. Even a bad haircut couldn't help.

i  rely on and assicate with people with my mind not with my haircut
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 10, 2020, 02:42:45 PM
i  rely on and assicate with people with my mind not with my haircut

YOU DRESS LIKE GURAL
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 10, 2020, 02:51:42 PM
i  rely on and assicate with people with my mind not with my haircut
You slay any pussy with that strategy?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 10, 2020, 03:06:56 PM
You slay any pussy with that strategy?
73cv.2 73cv.2 73cv.2
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on June 10, 2020, 03:41:40 PM
Lucpark gets a haircut every time he play the Horses ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 10, 2020, 04:03:13 PM
Lucpark gets a haircut every time he play the Horses ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

GETS TRIMMED ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 10, 2020, 06:32:30 PM
lots of baby races tom for the stable
should be interetsting
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 10, 2020, 07:00:08 PM
18 babies total qualifying tom at mohawk
11 of them are from thestable.com

if this doesnt scream what a disaster the stable is nothing does


MORE THAN HALF of the horses are anthonys....

and you guys wonder why i destroy this guy for mismanagment

is it just a conicidence??
or is he pushing his babies too hard to boost the sales price??

hmmmmmm

the numbers dont like...
how come he has so many ready already when no one else does????

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 10, 2020, 07:22:52 PM
http://ustrottingnews.com/two-year-old-preview-show-wednesday-on-cosa-tv/
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 10, 2020, 07:27:06 PM
18 babies total qualifying tom at mohawk
11 of them are from thestable.com



the numbers dont like...
how come he has so many ready already when no one else does????


BURKE BRIGADE

HAD 20 OR SO   BABIES IN AT GAITWAY OTHER DAY

WAS IT TO EARLY FOR HIM TOO
CAN U GIVE HIM ADVICE TOO

CAN U HELP HIM MANAGE HORSES TOO ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

ANTHONY THru U OUT CAN U JUST ADMIT

,,KICKED TO THE CURB..like a wet butterfly ngc3 ngc3

AND YOUR BITTER

AND IT HURT AND STINGS

I KNOW I FELL FOR U joshie tmbz1

stop stalking anthonys horses

worry about yours,,

pls this is borderline
INSANITY ,,what wrong with you Joshua

get help

ANTHONY IN YOUR HEAD tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 10, 2020, 08:32:36 PM
This is about the time babys q. Nothing wrong there happening at many tracks this week
 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 10, 2020, 08:39:34 PM

BURKE BRIGADE

HAD 20 OR SO   BABIES IN AT GAITWAY OTHER DAY

WAS IT TO EARLY FOR HIM TOO
CAN U GIVE HIM ADVICE TOO

CAN U HELP HIM MANAGE HORSES TOO ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

ANTHONY THru U OUT CAN U JUST ADMIT

,,KICKED TO THE CURB..like a wet butterfly ngc3 ngc3

AND YOUR BITTER

AND IT HURT AND STINGS

I KNOW I FELL FOR U joshie tmbz1

stop stalking anthonys horses

worry about yours,,

pls this is borderline
INSANITY ,,what wrong with you Joshua

get help

ANTHONY IN YOUR HEAD tmbz1 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

ijit cant see that he trains 'em hard like alot of them do.  They gonna be ready. ;D
JOSHUA GARNSEY
HIS BEAK GOT HIM BOOTED AND HE STILL WONT BE QUIET 73cv.2
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 10, 2020, 09:21:13 PM
Burke had 2.1 million worth of babies at Gaitway Monday
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 10, 2020, 09:25:05 PM
Burke had 2.1 million worth of babies at Gaitway Monday

RAY CHARLES COULD WIN A FEW Q RACES WITH ALL THOSE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 10, 2020, 10:29:19 PM
This is about the time babys q. Nothing wrong there happening at many tracks this week

you are using flawed logic...
there are 18 ...12 of them are the stables


so its not time for all of them
its time for a select few who have done it the right way
if more than half the horses baby racing are yours then you are pushing yours too hard
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 10, 2020, 11:23:38 PM
No it's the use of a calendar. Five or six tracks this week have baby q's. This week off a week back with another q. Possibly one start into a sire race or a step below stake depending the jurisdiction. No flaws there. I haven't looked but believe ONT starts there gold series later then the states so maybe majority of those ONT babies still have calendar saying not time to q yet.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 10, 2020, 11:26:27 PM
you are using flawed logic...
there are 18 ...12 of them are the stables


so its not time for all of them
its time for a select few who have done it the right way
if more than half the horses baby racing are yours then you are pushing yours too hard

I think you need to look at the jurisdiction for the horses - since Ohio starts early in July and its June 12th, when did you want him to QUA them?  The first legs are three weeks away.  Same thing on PA schedule (although subject to change).    maybe 4 are Ontario breds.



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 10, 2020, 11:56:48 PM
I think you need to look at the jurisdiction for the horses - since Ohio starts early in July and its June 12th, when did you want him to QUA them?  The first legs are three weeks away.  Same thing on PA schedule (although subject to change).    maybe 4 are Ontario breds.

Perhaps you have a point about jurisdiction

But thr breeding on this years crop is horrible.
Would be shocked if sny end up good
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: whiptherabbit on June 11, 2020, 09:26:05 AM
https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/6-10-20/june-11-mohawk-qualifiers.html

Link to the qualifiers which start momentarily & programs.

Personally , my favourite time of the year is watching the next generation start qualifying.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 11, 2020, 10:40:19 AM
Perhaps you have a point about jurisdiction

But thr breeding on this years crop is horrible.
Would be shocked if sny end up good
You told us a couple days ago you don't buy babies.

Now you're an expert.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 11:10:21 AM
You told us a couple days ago you don't buy babies.

Now you're an expert.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Breeding applies to all racehorses not just babies
And yes i know pedigree
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 11, 2020, 11:15:49 AM
He will blame the head wind today at Mohawk.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 11:19:22 AM
The one that broke and ran the stretch at the start made a "little break" im sure
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 11, 2020, 11:24:16 AM
Their highest paid yearling
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 12:02:01 PM
Their highest paid yearling
An uncle Peter  ngc3 ngc3

And 15k for a father patrick so everyone can say the own a father patrick.
Pulling out all thecstops
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 11, 2020, 12:04:40 PM
You told us a couple days ago you don't buy babies.

Now you're an expert.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 11, 2020, 12:05:26 PM

And yes i know pedigree


you know everyhting until its time to raise your hand and sign the sold slip at babies sales

pls hush up

anthony got u so mad...

you got escorted out of his barn

its like dating a model and getting dumped and then finding
 shes  turned gay  because  you could not satisfy her



 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 11, 2020, 12:12:55 PM
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Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 12:26:23 PM
Ditching yiur horse already luc?
Suspensory issue?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 11, 2020, 12:40:15 PM
Ditching yiur horse already luc?
Suspensory issue?
Why lower the level of discourse with this Cheap Heat?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 11, 2020, 12:46:55 PM
Ditching yiur horse already luc?
Suspensory issue?

Purple know a lot ,,,100%fact
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 12:49:20 PM
Why sell a horse just qualified

Hmmmmmm


Someones getting a problem horse
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 11, 2020, 01:11:41 PM
Luc wood neva do that
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 11, 2020, 01:17:47 PM
Why sell a horse just qualified

Hmmmmmm


Someones getting a problem horse

YOU KEEP YOURS AND CRY OR DAD WOULD KILL YOU tmbz1
AMAC CONFIRMED YOU WERE KINDA A TOOL AROUND THE BARN AND WE LET IT GO AT THAT.....JOSHUA, HE SAID OTHER STUFF, BUT THAT'S HOW HE ROLLS.  I'M NOT GONNA RAT YOU OUT.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 11, 2020, 01:22:59 PM
Ditching yiur horse already luc?
Suspensory issue?

she has not  developed into sires material

had her 2 yrs

my goal every yr to have a few that can show sires material talent
and try to race in sires program,

when they dont they get sold

,,shes sound.. just not racing to my standards..

shes for sale ,on gait,,

i had her full brother ,,JUST N ACE..3rd in superfinal in 17made over 200k,


 we wish new buyer whom ever it is.. great fortune
shes paid into ,,few series and indy sires..

i never lie,,,and shes sound as can be 

see joshua ,,

thats how the game is played ,not bitch or blame  trainer or cry u got cheated

..just move on to next horse..

and next baby sale,,

you just cant seem to blame your self

its always someone elses fault


later ,,joshie

im   try to tan in the pool

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 11, 2020, 01:26:49 PM
$192,500 worth of two year old trotters qualified today

Any shares left on that swirl horse?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 08:02:04 PM
$192,500 worth of two year old trotters qualified today

Any shares left on that swirl horse?

what makes you put a horse on the track that can only go 209?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 11, 2020, 08:11:06 PM
what makes you put a horse on the track that can only go 209?

  .....asked to leave the barn
smh :P
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 10:10:27 PM
nancy allison ....
pacing up to the gate

i wonder why these horse come back so bad at 3


on a sidenote someone else posted a fb memory of the 2018 baby races from the stable...

14 of the 15 ended up amished within 2 years
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 10:14:37 PM
path of totality in super easy....
suprised 25 to 1...
you already know amac is sending her
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 10:22:39 PM
path of totality in super easy....
suprised 25 to 1...
you already know amac is sending her

wellthats why she was 30 to 1

another amish future

but look at her lines for last year
first at the quater
first at the quarter
first at the quarter


cant send these things like that
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 10:30:20 PM
the title of this thread needs to be amended to a strong factor at the canadian b tracks
no shows at the big stage
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 10:50:01 PM
and good old bottle of red gets brutalized again off 3 months ....

its a shame
this one probably had some talent and heart but will be ruined in no tiem
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 11, 2020, 10:57:40 PM
purple on fire tonight
got all the ammunition he needs
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 11, 2020, 11:04:38 PM
well lets see....
he sent 20 horses to the races today and the owners got a 1 check
a fourth

but 20 shipping fees at 120 a pop even though its only two trips for the shipper
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 12, 2020, 07:24:11 AM
The 2 year olds that have the breeder still listed as the owner, are they the ones he hasnít paid for yet?  But selling shares on them?

$300K+ in two year olds qualifying today at Mohawk
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 12, 2020, 11:23:20 AM
as usual, everything in the post is factually incorrect.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 12, 2020, 11:28:21 AM
as usual, everything in the post is factually incorrect.

ok donald trump

fake news,
but no corrections
got it

did you find a new job yet?

going to be ALOT of unhappy owners shortly
NO MONEY COMING IN!!!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 12, 2020, 11:50:45 AM
as usual, everything in the post is factually incorrect.

ANTHONY....HE'S MAD YOU TOSSED HIM
BUT THE NUMBERS ARE GRIM tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 12, 2020, 12:03:15 PM
ANTHONY....HE'S MAD YOU TOSSED HIM
BUT THE NUMBERS ARE GRIM tmbz1

i left when i saw the direction the stable was heading
that was back when he had well bred horses


he couldnt pay me enough now to manage the slugs the have now
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 12, 2020, 12:20:42 PM
i left when i saw the direction the stable was heading
that was back when he had well bred horses


he couldnt pay me enough now to manage the slugs the have now

YOUR STORY HOLDS WATER...NUMBERS DONT LIE tmbz1
YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE WORKED SOMETHING OUT VS GETTING ESCORTED OUT OF THE BARN MAYBE.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 12, 2020, 12:36:52 PM
The topic again to start  will be the head wind to lead off the list of excuses. While they have had a handful of good trotters just one hand...have they had anything more then a mediocre pacer?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 12, 2020, 12:54:33 PM
Swandre, other then the entertainment so called value, 800 clients whether all participant at this point in time, and the displeasure of one past unsatisfied owner what possible factual statements can you make? 5 years in the ability to spend money how see fit. The factual numbers are horrible and yes with over 300 head bought a blind squirrel can find a few good nuts. Say if they had 15 good horses over time that's 5%. Even by industry standards that is really low. So due tell give us your factual side to the stable - entertainment which is a copout. Because down deep he knows he needs results to buy yearlings. If it was about sole entertainment and a step into the doors for a owner go out and buy some really nice claimer that are made and race week after week for entertainment value? Buy a nice 2 yr old after qualifiers for SS or GC. Many ways to go about instead of a 125 plus also rans with a handful of potential.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 12, 2020, 01:20:59 PM
the industry is trying to right itself after the covid and the cheat scandal
I think it is safe to assume that  the fall sales are going to be trying at best
given the amount of unsold shares currently it will be difficult for all but especially the stable to "buy" anything , might be taking a lot on consignment  next year
june 12 qualifiers are nice but  just the start of a long journey up or down
realistically if you have a horse that earns $100 k at the end of their 3 yr old year you can consider that a success( I understand that depends on what you paid but that aside  100k earners  is a small % )
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 12, 2020, 02:40:56 PM
Well sales will be off and if it's a 25% decrease consignments will gladly take that given the current situation while reaping higher prices the past few years. Most would accept this as a one year blimp on any business front. Whether that is the case no one has that answer. You can bet the stable will be unloading a majority of three year olds that they held over. You can bet the leash will be short on unproven 2 yr olds unless they decide to keep what is paid for and not pursue a large number of 2 year olds. But given the discount be sure they rather try and buy potential to sell then mediocre 2 yr old performance.

As with the current situation of more cases as more testing is being done the propaganda machine is up and stoking the high cases and back to work. While not speaking of new cases and low to few new deaths. But that doesn't fit a agenda. Nor does science saying recently the virus is dying off and has had to mutate itself to stay alive being in the form of a cough or low grade fever. If this is the case over the summer months more people infected more people immune to spread down the road.

Also what doesn't fit the propaganda machine is the super spreaders in the streets for weeks. A month ago it was taboo to be out saying open up we what to go back to work. They were vilified. Mum on the protesters spreading
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 12, 2020, 05:31:37 PM
the worst part is he is getting more and more greedy

as he started to fail he bought more and more bad horses

this years crop is truly disgusting...

again


120 6 to 20k yearlings is only good for amac

40 40 to 50k yearlings would have been much better for the owners and business
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 12, 2020, 05:41:02 PM
couple of good babies today 1 qualified in 58 and change
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 12, 2020, 06:52:19 PM
i dont mean to kick a guy when he is down but stonebridge symba racing for 3200 this week

even if he wins that doesnt cover the weeks bills

another one he should have taken my offer on

but then he would have only gotten 119 training bills instead of 120
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 12, 2020, 09:03:01 PM
itís a real mystery as to why he wouldnít sell you a horse 😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 12, 2020, 10:15:22 PM
Globe trotting wins leg of pho

Sires
Nice job Anthony

And Joshua  still mad u canít  play with the stable ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 12, 2020, 10:18:49 PM
THE GUY IS A TOTAL DISASTER
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 12, 2020, 10:57:51 PM
anthony mac is a winner

can we just say it

,,u to joshie

..be happy for the guy will yah

hes makin big money
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 12, 2020, 11:22:10 PM
itís a real mystery as to why he wouldnít sell you a horse 😂

you are only adding to the bullshit

basically you are saying he will put his own ego and vendetta against doing the right thing for the partnership and profit?

no wonder youve never gone anywhwere in life
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 12, 2020, 11:23:58 PM
yes , globtrotting looked good although EXTREMELY hard used from the nine hole

not the way id want to kick off the season


sad that the whole stable revlolves around 1 horse now
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 12, 2020, 11:30:06 PM
Stop.  Hard way to race first starts ngc3 ngc3
Itís sires

U  hater

Itís a sires stakes race

Gosh. Josh

You a hater dude
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 12, 2020, 11:48:35 PM
yes , globtrotting looked good although EXTREMELY hard used from the nine hole

not the way id want to kick off the season


sad that the whole stable revlolves around 1 horse now

second slowest opening quarter on the entire card ?  two steps off the gate she was in the 4 path, maybe hard used for 1/8 - 
Wrenn left in 27.2 with his trotting filly in another division from the 9 hole - full second faster or harder, whichever you prefer. 

soon that group will be down to 2 divisions - the rest into the buckeye or whatever its called -

thought his other filly raced well for only second start of the year -

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 12, 2020, 11:49:53 PM
Granted, Globetrotting is the best horse in the stable....care to tell everyone who is 2 and 3?????  Good Luck

Now or after we see what the 2 year olds they have are like?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 12, 2020, 11:55:46 PM
Former stable "superstar" maitainance man was an all out furth in a bottom racecat Hawthorne.

Another horee being sold at 6 figures

Sounds like crickets forv2nd and third  brst horse

Normally there are lots of suggestions and its hard to cut when yiu make lists...i guess not this time...
But that didsnt stop amac from making top ten 2 yr lists in January
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 13, 2020, 12:23:02 AM
Id say yes would be 2
If he ever races again
3 would be the filly that finished 3rd tonight in the ss
4th would be the 2 yr chapter seven that won yesterday


You couldn't give me the rest of the horses for free
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 13, 2020, 12:34:58 AM
Sunshine n shade looked like he miggt be a good one lastvyear...
But alas, raced too hard

Quit like a pig off easy fractiins on the leas last week,  tonghight got distanced and put on the list...

Seems to be a pattern here...

Hence me commenting about how he has too many ready right now...


I've said all i have to say...it will all play out now.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 14, 2020, 11:19:04 AM
opening weekend of nationwide racing and baby racing

not a peep from the stable

so much for making noise everywhere huh luc?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 14, 2020, 12:22:57 PM


so much for making noise everywhere huh luc?

PROB SAVIN HIS BEST ONES FOR LAST

THATS HOW MOST HALL OF FAMERS DO IT
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 14, 2020, 01:34:09 PM
so brushcut isnt a good one then???

came home 33 seconds in a nw1 last night

a pacer...

they started him twice right of the bat in NYSS last year



sooooooo many mistakes mismanaging...
just another ruined horse
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 14, 2020, 01:37:18 PM
there has been more disasters than good results of late especially for 3 yr olds
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Manny on June 14, 2020, 01:38:40 PM
Its a joke.  Anthony used his political skills to basically scam everyone in a professional manner. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 14, 2020, 01:55:55 PM
there has been more disasters than good results of late especially for 3 yr olds

hes bought 400 horses the last 3 years and is still resorting to posting pictures of 2 year olds training as the weekend highlights...

i dont mean to kick a horse when he is down but this is just for all the people that have been battling me the last year when ive been trying to sound the alarm
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 14, 2020, 02:51:01 PM
Can we stop with the inflated yearling numbers past three years might top 200. The story is bad doesn't need to be ultra fake. The problems early on stemming from last year 2 year olds the ones that barely raced or just were average at best are just bad at 3. Horses need to improve if your paying top bills for a nw1 at a C track that's a MAJOR issue. The client needs to understand that horse will be out 70k after its 3 year old season not counting whatever it cost. The stable has a ton of these types and clients can't shouldn't be that clueless? The only problem or major problem with the stable they only get sold when AM decided to put them in a sale. Sure clients can sell shares on line within the stable but who is dumb enough to buy junk? Sure the three OH fillies raced well on Friday but they had some ability at 2 and we have credited Globetrotting as a nice horse. 1 of 75 or so purchased as a yearling. The blind squirrel theory. The balance are cheap horses perceived by the CEO as having pedigree because of black type in a book. That is your major issue buying into yearlings on this theory. There is no basis....
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 14, 2020, 06:43:19 PM
as a general rule you get what you pay for at the sales
thats not to say the odd inexpensive one cant jump up and do well but odds are against that
when a 3/4 brother to vegas vacation sells for $30 k you can assume  it is not because others were all getting beers when he went through the ring, he has some confirmation issues
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 18, 2020, 09:20:09 PM
all smoke and mirrors .

Pushed too hard last year and it ruined the horse..

Then tonight  he sends her a million off the gate snd goes on an insane gallop..

Looks good for a 16th then blows up...
Par for the course
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 18, 2020, 09:31:08 PM
Ake knew something when he sent her back from FL. Stable needs to race at B and C tracks a big O for the win spot couple seconds and a whole lot of missed checks in 20 starts. AM three races burns about 27k of wps of the public money not counting ex and tri. KDDO was acting up post parade which will give AM cover to sprint 4L to the lead.

Wonder if he will brag on q's today since he had a 30mph at their backs in the stretch. Whined enough last week with a 40mph headwind. The guy blames everything but himself the list of excuses are so amusing wonder how much these clients believe?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on June 18, 2020, 10:00:03 PM
If a trainer always told an owner that his horses always sucked he wouldn't have an owner for very long.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 18, 2020, 10:04:41 PM
If a trainer always told an owner that his horses always sucked he wouldn't have an owner for very long.


The truth hurts but itís the best

Horses are what they are

Owners appreciate the truth versus lies

I do.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 18, 2020, 10:06:50 PM
Ake knew something when he sent her back from FL. Stable needs to race at B and C tracks a big O for the win spot couple seconds and a whole lot of missed checks in 20 starts. AM three races burns about 27k of wps of the public money not counting ex and tri. KDDO was acting up post parade which will give AM cover to sprint 4L to the lead.

Wonder if he will brag on q's today since he had a 30mph at their backs in the stretch. Whined enough last week with a 40mph headwind. The guy blames everything but himself the list of excuses are so amusing wonder how much these clients believe?

I wonder if he will describe the quarter mile all out gallop in his recap as a "little break"

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 18, 2020, 10:08:32 PM
no arguments
however it is a sebastian k and there are not many of them that have been very good
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 18, 2020, 10:23:50 PM
Half round...going by the Tony Morgan philosophy of treating owners like mushrooms just keep them in the dark and feed them a lot of shit...isn't the best way to run a rather large stable that appears to focus on cheap yearlings that turn into rather large expense for a 3yr olds racing nw 1, nw 2, and only seem to place well at cheap tracks? He is more a CEO rather then trainer/driver?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 19, 2020, 12:51:28 AM
Half round...going by the Tony Morgan philosophy of treating owners like mushrooms just keep them in the dark and feed them a lot of shit...isn't the best way to run a rather large stable that appears to focus on cheap yearlings that turn into rather large expense for a 3yr olds racing nw 1, nw 2, and only seem to place well at cheap tracks? He is more a CEO rather then trainer/driver?

A very poor ceo
Ceos are supposed to think long term
At least tge good ones

And giess what,  he is a trump supporter

Of course.
Its what sounds good and zhort term, notvsay what needs to be said, sugarcoat everything,  use everything you can to pump up everything then make excuses when it fails, but lose orher peoples koney
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 19, 2020, 07:31:31 AM
Heís saving money on advertising
Your SC fees are paying for it
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on June 19, 2020, 09:08:22 AM
Half round...going by the Tony Morgan philosophy of treating owners like mushrooms just keep them in the dark and feed them a lot of shit...isn't the best way to run a rather large stable that appears to focus on cheap yearlings that turn into rather large expense for a 3yr olds racing nw 1, nw 2, and only seem to place well at cheap tracks? He is more a CEO rather then trainer/driver?

There all CEO's anymore and are just selling their "community stable".  thats the way you get horses anymore.  The sport has commercialized too much and has been about Burke, Miller, Melander, Takter, Coleman, Brown, rhodes, morgan, etc.  Any owner is delusional to think that any one of these guys sits behind there horse weekly even though they are listed as "trainer."  purely a numbers game till you can weed out your deeper pocket clients to get better stock
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 19, 2020, 11:16:06 AM
purple
 only 6 spelling errors in your short diatribe, improvement
I assume you voted for Hilary
remember there  was only two choices  Trump or Clinton
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 19, 2020, 01:06:32 PM
Case in point with this guy whines last week of 40mph headwinds that factored into slower times. No doubt it did as it did for all horses that qualified. Yesterday a good 30 mph wind at that their back produced better times and better last quarters. His first race q had a 28 second last quarter any mention of the wind pushing that time...nope. U would like clients can start smelling the bs by watching and knowing the difference. They aren't newbies anymore.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 19, 2020, 02:55:42 PM
Anthony at point in the season has to be upfront with owners

he has a few monsters I heard but for the most

just horses

can his 6 monsters pay for the rest of the also rans
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 19, 2020, 10:28:20 PM
He may have 6 better then average and sure a few may turn into something better but no 9% or under can't pick up a stable of 60 plus babies with some already on the sidelines. A couple more bust at Mohawk but a C track victory. Everyone gave Nicky loafers no cred for placing horses correctly at Freehold. The stable needs to stick to b and c tracks when racing in ONT. 21 starts and the best finishes so far 3 3rds...ouch
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 20, 2020, 12:15:55 AM
What is so hard to believe. A Mac as a driver couldn't ever tell he got into position for the shuffle to the back behind dead horses. And now the investors have seen they have been had. Got to believe Purple is right, tick tock the end is near blow up time is soon.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 20, 2020, 08:37:43 AM
13 2 year olds Qualifying this morning at Mohawk
8 with no yearling sale prices
7 totalling over $110k
McMaster, Baillargeron, Poulton, Anthony, Amy all listed
Good luck
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 20, 2020, 11:43:18 AM
rose run versitile made it to ongait..

good luck getting 17k
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 20, 2020, 12:12:42 PM
A couple of good qualifiers, a few just ok pulled along and passed in the lane for minor spots, and the rest well cut the fat and stop charging the clients on forever nw1. Question then becomes can the couple good ON horses compete in the gold when time to rock with the top ON horses?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 20, 2020, 12:35:16 PM
pressure is on for ANTHONY MAC TO PERFORM

I THINBK HES GONNA MAKE A BIG BREAK THRU

I SAW THE QUALIFERS YES A FEW WERE EXCELELNT

THE REST ALSO RANS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 20, 2020, 01:28:25 PM
AM keeps placing and driving horses at Mohawk he's going to have a client revolt to sell everything. Mohawk horses=very few checks.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on June 20, 2020, 01:54:49 PM
nothing but a con man. Even the blind squirrel gets a nut now and then. Think of all the stables that start out with the numbers he did, they generally have a couple of decent ones, even the shitty trainers. HE CAN NOT DRIVE, HE IS AN ANCHOR.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 20, 2020, 01:59:19 PM
i put very little value in qualifiers at this time, you know he is driving them to look good while others are educating horses

i care more how horses look in october or their 3 yr old year not because they beat 6 other mediocre horses in mid june
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 20, 2020, 02:50:10 PM
Here's the problem the big trainers Takter, Burke, Millers, Alagna, and any other top yearling purchaser sure they focus on the individual and family. Possible but not unlikely they know nothing about pedigree and let's say it is less they hire the people that do. Or their big owners pay for the information from outlets that provide. AM is on record many of times knowing NOTHING about pedigree and if you mention what a foundation mare and the likes of a group of them you probably get a blank stare. I'm not saying you have to be a scientist along with being a trainer but some knowledge would be helpful. He is also clueless on crosses. Yet during yearling videos and afterward he throws in pedigree that some 12k yearling purchase that everyone backed off on like he knew something. Smh. He goes off blacktype which can be meaningless since most mares over a span will throw 1 or 2 100k individual. But not many more then 2. You have your super mares that will throw a half dozen or more to all different type sires. Blacktype in the 3rd or 4th dam doesn't mean it translate to the current dam. If the affinity between sire and dam isn't there the individual won't be there. One can also get into N Hall and how he ranks yearlings.

With all that said the pompous AM rarely goes off his value menu, takes any advice or real pedigree from a client because he is on the hook. But watch every video they send out before and if purchased after the word pedigree is mentioned by someone that actually admits knowing not a thing about. Many top trainers have a eye on certain individuals and watching videos so not saying every horse bought is factored in having to be a top pedigree the horse still has to have heart and conformation.

AM has thought to out smart 1st day Lex and Harrisburg sale to buying 5 the past couple years like a thorn was found in a haystack. There are reasons smart buyers pass on horses on paper should sell well but don't. One of those I believe did die but the others were non factors. If they paddle that much there was a reason a 50-60k individual sold for 20-25k or less.

Again, I want the stable to work and clients to have a chance but what I've seen the past couple years through transparency the whole thing minus training videos need to be revamped. Starting with buying less horses while buying better quality even at a price. If your spending a 1.0mln on 50 you can spend the same 1.0mln on 20-25 if the clients are willing to buy into that which they seem to have minus this year. The result may or may not change but you can be more honest to clients. Otherwise the transparency makes him more like a salesman or a fraud.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: RWB on June 20, 2020, 03:23:48 PM
Horses First..........yo u make a valid point about buying fewer higher quality horses

The only problem is that Anthony doesn't want 25 monthly training bills..........he wants 50-60........that way he lines his pockets

One person makes $$$ at The Stable........AMa c........he had a great run the past few years but I don't think it will last much longer
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 20, 2020, 05:56:54 PM
A couple of good qualifiers, a few just ok pulled along and passed in the lane for minor spots, and the rest well cut the fat and stop charging the clients on forever nw1. Question then becomes can the couple good ON horses compete in the gold when time to rock with the top ON horses?

right
and this is what he has ad the opportunity to do in the past...
do the right thing....
but instead he will milk ALLL the horses
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 20, 2020, 05:58:43 PM
Horses First..........yo u make a valid point about buying fewer higher quality horses

The only problem is that Anthony doesn't want 25 monthly training bills..........he wants 50-60........that way he lines his pockets

One person makes $$$ at The Stable........AMa c........he had a great run the past few years but I don't think it will last much longer

this is what i have been saying all along

and this year much worse...

did they really need those 6 to 10 thousand dollar yearlings??? i think they got about 12 of them like that....

but amac got rich off it...
and still pushes his horses too hard and ruins them so that he can "meet the expectations" since he talks them up so much

mismanaged all around
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on June 20, 2020, 06:07:08 PM
i put very little value in qualifiers at this time, you know he is driving them to look good while others are educating horses
If history repeats itself the qualifiers are where they peak
i care more how horses look in october or their 3 yr old year not because they beat 6 other mediocre horses in mid june
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 20, 2020, 07:15:56 PM
Yes was pointing at he would rather spread 50 or more instead of 20-25 because it benefits him most and definitely not clients. The more purchases of cheap unknown yearlings does not help the % of the stable having a good group of horses. We will see shortly that 110 horses or so a 100 of them are pure fat and help only 1 person. I think the clients of 800 should start a protest and start marching against inequality. Why there are 5 that make money and 105 horses don't  ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Mazola on June 20, 2020, 07:24:10 PM
Why don't people be happy for a guy that is making money legally and bringing new people to the game? Jealousy. 11.wp
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on June 20, 2020, 07:38:12 PM


 The Stable had a big day with Capistrano & Muscle Chrome, in the Prospect Series

 Capistrano was 1st at the half in 58' but struggled a little bit w/back half (106 & piece)

 Muscle Chrome jumped off early, little miscue- he will get new shoes & come back strong!




 His 3 year olds are atrocious, imagine holding them over to 3 yr old season, giving owners false hope- while being molested.

 His kids all have the nicest new clothes & they have big house, new jeep etc.

 He has 2 years left max, doing this.

 There WILL be excuses when it folds- it'll be "the fans & owners" fault...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 20, 2020, 07:53:08 PM
Why don't people be happy for a guy that is making money legally and bringing new people to the game? Jealousy. 11.wp

because he lied and misled me and cost me lots of money?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 20, 2020, 07:55:13 PM

 The Stable had a big day with Capistrano & Muscle Chrome, in the Prospect Series

 Capistrano was 1st at the half in 58' but struggled a little bit w/back half (106 & piece)

 Muscle Chrome jumped off early, little miscue- he will get new shoes & come back strong!




 His 3 year olds are atrocious, imagine holding them over to 3 yr old season, giving owners false hope- while being molested.

 His kids all have the nicest new clothes & they have big house, new jeep etc.

 He has 2 years left max, doing this.

 There WILL be excuses when it folds- it'll be "the fans & owners" fault...


he got to go to australia...
went to all the sales on the owners dimes

think he went to the carribean twice

i dont think i recall any of my trainers going on vacation....ever. ..

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 20, 2020, 08:33:15 PM
  I just legit talked with a guy that worked for A Mac. I just matter of factly asked him what he thought of the operation.  His answer was to the effect: "The guy is clueless and rigs them all the same starting out and whips and slashes them alot."
  Not exactly the most eloquent description, but he was the only guy I knew who had first hand info. He lives up there and has been a pal for decades.  He aint lyin.....looked after Tarport Crystal among a few other good ones along the way.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 20, 2020, 08:45:38 PM
ive noticed his groom swandre isnt here defending him anymore
maybe he took the advice and jumped ship
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 20, 2020, 08:48:09 PM
ive noticed his groom swandre isnt here defending him anymore
maybe he took the advice and jumped ship

  I'll ask...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on June 20, 2020, 09:07:05 PM
A couple of good qualifiers, a few just ok pulled along and passed in the lane for minor spots, and the rest well cut the fat and stop charging the clients on forever nw1. Question then becomes can the couple good ON horses compete in the gold when time to rock with the top ON horses?
If history holds true they peak for qualifiers
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 21, 2020, 12:59:41 AM
  I just legit talked with a guy that worked for A Mac. I just matter of factly asked him what he thought of the operation.  His answer was to the effect: "The guy is clueless and rigs them all the same starting out and whips and slashes them alot."
  Not exactly the most eloquent description, but he was the only guy I knew who had first hand info. He lives up there and has been a pal for decades.  He aint lyin.....looked after Tarport Crystal among a few other good ones along the way.

rigged the same? LOL
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 21, 2020, 01:01:10 AM
Mazola no jealousy and have said hope it works out for getting clients fractionally into the game. But it's been more sham and legal theft by keeping so many horses that will never get close to breakeven or give a client more then a win photo past nw 2 or 3 if mare. His total lack of regard to what he is actually being spending the client money. But yes legal jealousy hell no
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 21, 2020, 01:04:01 AM
ive noticed his groom swandre isnt here defending him anymore
maybe he took the advice and jumped ship

😴
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cornishcommish on June 21, 2020, 06:29:30 AM
  I just legit talked with a guy that worked for A Mac. I just matter of factly asked him what he thought of the operation.

Nice information to know , if true..........but why did you throw your informant under the bus , with details on who he looked after.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 21, 2020, 09:45:27 AM
Nice information to know , if true..........but why did you throw your informant under the bus , with details on who he looked after.

  You know the guy?  He aint worried about goin under any bus as far as that gig went. tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 21, 2020, 09:54:24 AM
well he should start worrying about the amount of fibs he tells because no one changes equipment and shoeing as much as Anthony 😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 21, 2020, 11:11:15 AM
well he should start worrying about the amount of fibs he tells because no one changes equipment and shoeing as much as Anthony 😂

What about the "clueless" remark.? Kinda rude, but I did ask.  Does he have a wife?  Sadly she went under the bus as well.  We been around stables that rig them all the same.  It's no big deal.  It's making the wrong switches that'll kill ya. 
  And like the other guy said, they seem to peak for quallies.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 21, 2020, 11:28:14 AM
Another bad night with a couple decent finishes but the hype of GW Chrome took a backseat yesterday looking ordinary at best. Could be sick, allergies, bled, mucus, farrier, hopples to tight, hopples to long, all the go to's certainly not the driver or maybe not the trainer who has pumped up this horse. But this Ohio gelding will find a much tougher going weeks to come. Another .80 fav burning of public money.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 21, 2020, 11:32:26 AM
😴

I thiught you might say something in defense of the stable and all its achievements but i guess youve smartened up
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 21, 2020, 11:38:13 AM
I thiught you might say something in defense of the stable and all its achievements but i guess youve smartened up

+  He got flushed but took cover again.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 21, 2020, 12:04:21 PM
not amacs fault idiots bet gw chrome to $.80
he drove him correctly as a first time 2 yr old starter against older horses
i guess you would have preferred he blast him to the front in 28 out of the 8 holed and back through the field
just sayin
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 21, 2020, 01:14:29 PM
Why so much interest in this bust out operation
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 21, 2020, 01:21:04 PM
Why so much interest in this bust out operation

Folks like to stand around the dumpster fire and jaw it up awhile.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 21, 2020, 04:05:00 PM
fair comment
considering 99% of the posts are from people who have no financial interest in the stable
its a free country( well kind of, sort of) and he is doing noting illegal
some of you probably bought pet rocks back in the day and thought they were a great idea
people invest at their own free will
time will tell
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 21, 2020, 04:07:35 PM
On the contrary Brown Jug I'm sure most of the pool was client money on Chrome as the expectations were high and set by tr/dr himself. No I won't expect that from the 8 hole and AM said race would be a learning experience but he also expected high results. Otherwise just wait and enter another qualifier. He raced 2yr olds last year same spot with wins laying back and brushing. Chrome had NO brush last night and did he learn anything? So expectations were set just not met. Don't shoot the messenger just passing along the circumstances.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 21, 2020, 04:56:40 PM
Golfhbm is exactly the largest issue of being trapped. You either have to dump at low prices while not being able to have a voice in moving the horse to a sale or a online sale. Even if you own 50% or more. Its solely at AM digression. Whom among clients are going to buy shares of a horse that looks awful? AM himself ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 21, 2020, 06:54:18 PM
if you are any kind of serious handicappeer/gambler and you bet a 2 yr first time trotter out of the 8 hole against older horses you deserve to be seperated from your money
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 21, 2020, 08:08:19 PM
AM on his video says horse is ready, yes a learning curve in first race, but horse has been hyped for some time a top trot colt in the barn. Doesn't take much at a b track with clients backing the words of AM on Chrome. Novice clients novice wagers? I think u continue to miss the point on how words may tend to overvalue a horse race.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 21, 2020, 08:24:21 PM
wish i was wagering on georgian that night, quite sure i would have some extra cash  from that race
i read the program not listening to trainers who overate their own horses for the benefit of owners
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 21, 2020, 09:11:32 PM
When AM has had a few beers and someone asks about those who invested you'll get two words out of him, FUCK EM.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 21, 2020, 09:26:24 PM
When AM has had a few beers and someone asks about those who invested you'll get two words out of him, FUCK EM.
I've heard it myself.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 21, 2020, 10:15:55 PM
Brown Jug I agree since these aren't true gamblers. I have cashed some nice tri's tossing his favorites all together and going deep 5 or 6 deep looking for longshots.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 22, 2020, 09:01:36 AM
Can other owners, trainers and drivers buy shares?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 22, 2020, 08:03:08 PM
I know trainers have
Rene did
Blair burgess
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Goaldigger on June 22, 2020, 09:13:38 PM
Burke, Harris and James MacDonald bought into horses too at one point
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 22, 2020, 09:35:52 PM
Knockdowndragout on the move again. Started the season with Ake. Back to the stable and the stable tr/dr can't deal with the animal and off to Moreau barn.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 22, 2020, 11:26:02 PM
Knockdowndragout on the move again. Started the season with Ake. Back to the stable and the stable tr/dr can't deal with the animal and off to Moreau barn.

Moraeu with a special needs trotter?

 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 23, 2020, 12:12:24 AM
Even down under they mismanage horses.

Rokndownunder WAS a nive filly.
Qualified for a big race and was an all out 5th.
A normal stablecwould have shevled her at that point but nope not the stable.

Now shes running behind the gate and ruined already
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 23, 2020, 07:02:04 AM
Burke, Harris and James MacDonald bought into horses too at one point

Harris and James?
Wouldnít they be driving other horses in the same races?
Is that against the rules?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 23, 2020, 09:05:42 AM
Can other owners, trainers and drivers buy shares?
Yes.  I did.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 23, 2020, 10:10:44 AM
Are your horses racing against the stable horses that you have purchased shares of?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2020, 10:19:07 AM
Are your horses racing against the stable horses that you have purchased shares of?
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

I spilled my cereal ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Goaldigger on June 23, 2020, 10:23:55 AM
Burke had a piece of The Stable.CA horse maybe a couple years ago. Then Burke took horse with The Stables clients and started training that horse. Then they sold that horse. James bought into one of this years 2 year old at stable. Hasnít raced yet. If James still on partners on that horse, when the horse races James would probably drive him. Not sure if James still a partner. Mentioning of partners, you donít get to know your partners on a horse. So no say into anything about a horse you bought into. Imagine you buy 20% into a horse and have no say who trainer is and who drives your horse. That is what I am running into. Mario of all the drivers is who is driving my horse. Already had a couple talks with AMAc about Mario driving last year as my horse is now 3. And yes I am getting out little by little of TheStable.CA. At a loss.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 23, 2020, 10:32:47 AM
Are your horses racing against the stable horses that you have purchased shares of?
Not yet, but it's no big deal.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2020, 10:40:43 AM
Burke had a piece of The Stable.CA horse maybe a couple years ago. Then Burke took horse with The Stables clients and started training that horse. Then they sold that horse. James bought into one of this years 2 year old at stable. Hasnít raced yet. If James still on partners on that horse, when the horse races James would probably drive him. Not sure if James still a partner. Mentioning of partners, you donít get to know your partners on a horse. So no say into anything about a horse you bought into. Imagine you buy 20% into a horse and have no say who trainer is and who drives your horse. That is what I am running into. Mario of all the drivers is who is driving my horse. Already had a couple talks with AMAc about Mario driving last year as my horse is now 3. And yes I am getting out little by little of TheStable.CA. At a loss.

man lots of bad reports on the stable

what the fck is going is he really cheating clients

I cant imagine ,,not bein able to get of a horse when u want

why doesn't stupid shit like happen to me

cus

..I don't do pyramid schemes

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 23, 2020, 10:43:21 AM
Are t car warrantyís pyramid schemes??
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: whiptherabbit on June 23, 2020, 12:42:42 PM
The truth of the matter is that with 50-60 yearlings (mostly marginally bred) the chance for positive ROI overall is probably 0.001% ... you might get lucky and have a couple do well.

This initiative has gotten more people involved in horse ownership but how many will go on to buy yearlings or race horses themselves (mixed sale, claimers) & continue to have Anthony train & drive! I would say the same % listed above.

This is all about Anthony, same as the buys to bring a horse down for the gold cup & saucer. Unfortunately this is a dog & pony show and it will run its course over time.

Hopefully heís tucking some away instead of spending lavishly as when this is done, heíll be racing winners under 7 claimers in Dresden on Sunday afternoons.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lil Bit on June 23, 2020, 01:49:08 PM
well said rabbit
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 23, 2020, 01:57:19 PM
Yes.  I did.
Come on up and see us sometime, we'll be waiting.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2020, 03:01:00 PM
Come on up and see us sometime, we'll be waiting.

will pound calhound like oatmeal?

im axing for a friend
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 23, 2020, 03:05:53 PM
will pound calhound like oatmeal?

im axing for a friend

   Tell me what he said.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2020, 03:26:11 PM
   Tell me what he said.

calhound bettor not god to Canada


that's what he said
or else

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 23, 2020, 03:31:22 PM
calhound bettor not god to Canada


that's what he said
or else

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

  I'll take I.F. in the later rounds
what odds can I get?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2020, 04:27:09 PM
  I'll take I.F. in the later rounds
what odds can I get?

ice is 87 yrs old

and calhound aint black

its a toss up ;D
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 23, 2020, 04:27:56 PM
ice is 87 yrs old

and calhound aint black

its a toss up ;D

  Ice bringin heat I heard.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2020, 05:44:05 PM
  Ice bringin heat I heard.

YEAH HE JUST BOUGHT THIS NEW

FCKIN HEAT PAD

GOOD FOR PULLED MUSCLE AND GROIN PROBLEMS ;D ;D
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 23, 2020, 06:10:06 PM
Spirit of deo qualified well...
Thays nimber 3
Still looking for another half decent horse
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 23, 2020, 06:32:33 PM
  Ice bringin heat I heard.
Guys not 87 but your right the heat will be there. Those who live in Chitown be my guest I'll send a plane into Midway so you can see it with your own eyes then we can do the races and hit the town.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 23, 2020, 06:33:15 PM
very nice filly
if can  mind her manners will be heard from in the summer
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 23, 2020, 06:40:19 PM
Guys not 87 but your right the heat will be there. Those who live in Chitown be my guest I'll send a plane into Midway so you can see it with your own eyes then we can do the races and hit the town.

ROCKY WONT FLY, I THINK WE CAN VAN HIM UP IF HE HAS A COGGINS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 23, 2020, 08:26:35 PM
Rocky has a 2 yr old Ontario bred and a standing invite.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2020, 08:56:18 PM
Rocky has a 2 yr old Ontario bred and a standing invite.

Issues after issues after issues

Hit 204.

She mite be little immature At this point

Mite turn out till next yr

Prob
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Pull the Pocket on June 23, 2020, 09:35:40 PM
CONGRATS ON THEIR 2 YEAR OLD WINNER TODAY  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 23, 2020, 09:55:08 PM
One win doesn't pay the bills and when it comes to TheStable your fucked.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 23, 2020, 09:57:52 PM
Issues after issues after issues

Hit 204.

She mite be little immature At this point

Mite turn out till next yr

Prob

REMEMBER WHAT YOUR PAL GARY BUSSE TOLD U
THEY IS OR THEY AINT
ONGAIT tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 23, 2020, 10:38:16 PM
CONGRATS ON THEIR 2 YEAR OLD WINNER TODAY  tmbz1

lol...a winner....yippeee e
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 23, 2020, 10:50:03 PM
One win doesn't pay the bills and when it comes to TheStable your fucked.

rarely do horses pay their winter training bills in their first lifetime start

not a bad purchase for $4,000 though 👍
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 23, 2020, 11:34:09 PM
REMEMBER WHAT YOUR PAL GARY BUSSE TOLD U
THEY IS OR THEY AINT
ONGAIT tmbz1

DARRYL BUSSE

GARY BUSSE IS A BUSBOY AT MCDONALDS tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 23, 2020, 11:51:49 PM
rarely do horses pay their winter training bills in their first lifetime start

not a bad purchase for $4,000 though 👍


Spare me the 4k bullshit.

Setting the bar low i see
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 24, 2020, 08:40:41 AM
Will James drive the stables horses,that he owns shares of, this stakes season?
What about Jody?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 24, 2020, 10:20:35 AM
DARRYL BUSSE

GARY BUSSE IS A BUSBOY AT MCDONALDS tmbz1

ACCEPT THE JOKE AND MOVE ALONG tmbz1
TURN OUT OR SELL?  IF THEY AINT ATHLETIC, THEY GO IN ALOT OF STABLES AGREED.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 24, 2020, 07:07:29 PM
Swandre the idiot with a thumbs on a 4k purchase...lol. let me know when the 60k breaker shows up. Threw a shoe so we are told. Threw her head the week prior. That's why AM likes buying cheap horses 4k+35k has a better chance 60k+45k(sure she is staked to the tilt) has a better shot with one betting a NW1 field then the one failing to qualify. Swandre still showing the chump he is on this topic.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 24, 2020, 08:22:16 PM
Has anyone noticed SC and WEG are all of a sudden quiet now when it comes to promoting TheStable, they know this thing AM started is ready to blow up and they want to distance themselves.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 24, 2020, 08:49:04 PM
Swandre the idiot with a thumbs on a 4k purchase...lol. let me know when the 60k breaker shows up. Threw a shoe so we are told. Threw her head the week prior. That's why AM likes buying cheap horses 4k+35k has a better chance 60k+45k(sure she is staked to the tilt) has a better shot with one betting a NW1 field then the one failing to qualify. Swandre still showing the chump he is on this topic.

The good old buy 1 for 4...
Get 25k training bill on it then when it just does mediocre go "well we only paid 4 for it"
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 24, 2020, 09:02:25 PM
Has anyone noticed SC and WEG are all of a sudden quiet now when it comes to promoting TheStable, they know this thing AM started is ready to blow up and they want to distance themselves.
Compelling commentary tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 24, 2020, 09:18:26 PM
Compelling commentary tmbz1

  Indicates he expects an explosion soon.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 24, 2020, 09:47:09 PM
Swandre the idiot with a thumbs on a 4k purchase...lol. let me know when the 60k breaker shows up. Threw a shoe so we are told. Threw her head the week prior. That's why AM likes buying cheap horses 4k+35k has a better chance 60k+45k(sure she is staked to the tilt) has a better shot with one betting a NW1 field then the one failing to qualify. Swandre still showing the chump he is on this topic.

I bought 10% of her the day of the sale for $400 and then sold 5% of her for a very tidy profit. I now only own 5% of her but Iím not out a dime and she won her first lifetime start against older horses pretty impressively so whoís the idiot?   

chumps
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 24, 2020, 10:01:59 PM
  Indicates he expects an explosion soon.
Too much yeast in the loaf  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 24, 2020, 10:16:31 PM
Hey Swandre....care to inform us where AM bought her for 4K as that is not the truth. If you want I will post the sales results from2018. In the spirit of AM another person blowing smoke

She was purchased in 2019 for starters.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 24, 2020, 10:18:04 PM
Ohio Select Sale. $4,000

I was there. Bought my shares 2 seconds later
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 24, 2020, 10:29:33 PM
I was talking about the maiden winner in Ohio last night. not spirit of deo.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 24, 2020, 11:13:27 PM
Also Swandre...just curious what % of Swandre the Giant did you own or are you just stealing the name?

Agsin, fake news

Swandre  was NOT available to members of the stable.ca...

Yiu should see how these 2 year olds are overmatched at mohawk Friday night.
Stick to ohio
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 24, 2020, 11:22:55 PM
AM already giving out the notice for some upcoming performance because of all the outside post draws.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 24, 2020, 11:40:17 PM
Agsin, fake news

Swandre  was NOT available to members of the stable.ca...

Yiu should see how these 2 year olds are overmatched at mohawk Friday night.
Stick to ohio

no one is talking to you. maybe stick to speaking when spoken too
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 24, 2020, 11:42:31 PM
Also Swandre...just curious what % of Swandre the Giant did you own or are you just stealing the name?

no sir, just a fan of the horse.

I believe the entire ownership group was based out of Illinois
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 25, 2020, 12:06:51 AM
It was 4 guys with one guy 85% the other 3 5% each.

On another note another poor performance from the stable three year olds. Most of these horses brought back to be nw1 or nw2 and they are up the track. Look for more fire sales that could have happened 10 months ago.

On another side note Mohawk off tonight so the stable couldn't build on mediocrity already 0-26 in wins and just to 2nd's with a whole lot of 6th or worse finishes. One would at least these horses could milk a condition for a few races get some money carded but they look can't compete on the A track.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 25, 2020, 07:09:59 AM
There is no way that A Mac thought up this scheme himself, he is too stupid so someone else is behind this and if the cracks are starting to show and it's in public now chances are the main fraudster is in the wind and A Mac hasn't a clue what to do but keep billing investors. I'm thinking the fuse is lit and the boom is coming.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 25, 2020, 09:48:42 AM
no one is talking to you. maybe stick to speaking when spoken too

actually you are talking right to me

sorry for pointing out the fraud that is claiming swandre the giant was a stable horse

work on the horses...the ofers are getting old...
worry less about me
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 25, 2020, 09:56:32 AM
no one is talking to you. maybe stick to speaking when spoken too

shouldnt this be the big time of year for you all

i thought the stable was going to be a "strong factor everywhere in 2020"

seems like you guys have a lockdown on winning or should i say , competing at the b tracks in canada
aside from that its NOTHING. ZILCH.
well, globetrotting.
but beside that ZILCH
1 for 400 horses.....disgus tingly bad.

so shut the fuck up about me. i called it years ago ....maybe you should have listened instead of fighting me the whole way through
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 25, 2020, 12:33:13 PM
its on thin ice
will depend on how the horses perform next 4 months
lots of unsold shares which has to be problematic
will not be much money for any yearlings this fall
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 25, 2020, 12:52:58 PM
On a FB stable post today they make mention of "the busiest time of the year getting 100+ race horses ready for their stake season". Lol...glad I wasn't eating at that point in time. They held over what 50-55 three years there have been 20 or more that can't compete in nw1 or 2. Yes a few went to the OH sire stakes looks like the rest of a dozen or so are a grassroots stake horse. So 20% probably less and verdict is out if they can even compete.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 25, 2020, 01:53:13 PM
On a FB stable post today they make mention of "the busiest time of the year getting 100+ race horses ready for their stake season". Lol...glad I wasn't eating at that point in time. They held over what 50-55 three years there have been 20 or more that can't compete in nw1 or 2. Yes a few went to the OH sire stakes looks like the rest of a dozen or so are a grassroots stake horse. So 20% probably less and verdict is out if they can even compete.
Why do you care so much?

You've been sobbing over this for 6 months.

Why
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 25, 2020, 02:26:44 PM
well at least now purple has someone to commiserate with
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 25, 2020, 02:37:33 PM
Sobbing...that's funny. If you were smart enough following 6 months of post you could answer your stupid question. I've asked for six months your involvement owning and being invested in the sport and on a horse forum. Yet crickets? Are you ashamed owning bad horses or not owning horses at all and using a forum to troll people and sobbing over a President? The stable could work if it was run the correct way and without all the tired excuses. But if your not a member of the stable you don't get a inside look. So again are you a owner or just a fake want to be...knowing little about this topic? People can spend their money on anything they want. They get direct access to horse ownership but for their money they don't deserve to be deceive for that access. If this was truly for entertainment only buy claimers, buy horses out of a qualifier, or pay 200k for somebody's nice 2yr old. Horses are always for sale for a price. AM only cares about one bottom line anyone can see that.

So again what horses have you owned...a simple ?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 25, 2020, 02:41:44 PM
Why is that BJ pointing out falsehoods and transparency doesn't work when trying to steal money from owners on poor horses he knows that are poor? If AM can't tell a poor horse from a good horse...is he the one that should be leading the stable? It's a forum and topics on forums have discussions. Unless we should all be talking about the racist shit on here, all the political garbage started by trolls, and all other nonsense that isn't about horse racing. If you don't like the comments which are all factually on my end...just keep scrolling!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: RWB on June 25, 2020, 04:17:07 PM
Horses First.....your posts are always factual and accurate

People can spend their money any way they choose.....but as you can see by the shares not sold that people are getting smarter

A particular family that I know got involved with the stable early on.......came out to bet their horses and were told they were ready to win....they left disappointed every time....and finally sold their shares for a loss plus training bills +++......eventually it's not fun when you never win

But people can do what they like with their money.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 25, 2020, 05:04:09 PM
Not even about the win or excitement to enter a winner circle but majority of these horses are up the track. That's NOT entertainment in my book? I would change my tune if AM said honestly that the entertainment angle was the hook to garner 800 clients and hundreds of yearlings to bill out a rather large monthly rake. That having good horses actually mean everything to the live and growth of the stable. I've bought yearlings for 11 years. Everyone that buys yearlings know the ROI is not on your side. That the 1 in 10 or 2 in 10 you may end up with a nice horse but can't cover the bills for the other 8 or 9. He does claim that usually he be a fool not to.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 25, 2020, 05:24:36 PM
BUYING BABIES IS A LOSING PROPOSITION.

..
IT DOES MATTER WHERE THEY FINISH WHEN THEY RACE

NOBODY WANTS TO FINSH DFL ,,nobody after 2 or 3 races

owner loses interest in the horse and the trainer
 
 TRAINER SHOULD BE AT LEAST HONEST

ABOUT THEM AND HOW THEY TRAINING DOWN,,

THE.." you got a monster " stories always come out

in feb and march when stake payments are do

usually by may 15 or june 1 when they hit 204 or little faster

most of the truth comes out,,

they not much

it happens to everyone whos raced babies,,

A MAC ,,mite a little less trustworthy than most..

ANY HOW ,, BUYING BABIES IS A LOSS

if u can absorb the loss and got money to burn or

inherited money

keep buyin babies ,,and try to get a few snap shots

in the winners circle  tmbz1

these are jmvfho

,,if u guys disagree

it is what is it,,

thats being said ,,

my 2 yr old filly was awesome in qualifers yesterday tmbz1

race 5 hoosier,,ran 2nd but  tmbz1

have to plug my trainer

 ,,shes been straight about my horses

since ive been with her
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 25, 2020, 08:30:37 PM
Bill Wellwood a great horseman always said never go to the sales looking for a champion, look for something that will be a good raceway horse and will pay his or her way. If you get lucky that's a bonus and what keeps you in the game.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 25, 2020, 08:32:37 PM
Bill Wellwood a great horseman always said never go to the sales looking for a champion, look for something that will be a good raceway horse and will pay his or her way. If you get lucky that's a bonus and what keeps you in the game.

Armstead Jim - good example of that
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 25, 2020, 08:37:48 PM
I was around two great horsemen, Keith Waples and Bill Wellwood and no disrespect to Keith Waples, Bill Wellwood was 95% horse and I thank god I spent a good portion of my life around him.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 25, 2020, 09:02:36 PM
Bill O'Donnell has nothing but praise for Bill and he started with Bill. I remember overhearing Stanley Dancer at Greenwood during Grand Circuit Week saying to Glen Garnsey there is one fine horseman and nodded towards Wellwood. He was tough on everyone including his owners but you had fun and you did well, RIP Bill you left too soon.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: riley on June 25, 2020, 09:58:48 PM
 tmbz1  tmbz1  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 25, 2020, 10:18:12 PM
5-2 or better I will jump on Johann to be the stable first Mohawk winner post covid. Looked decent coming onto the track. A 4-5box as well
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 25, 2020, 10:18:44 PM
this is not a fckin bill odonnell or

STANLY FCKIN DANCER  thread

pls doNT  ruin thread

with storIEs when

u jagged off in front of ODONELL OR

or stanley dancer saw u take a piss


who the fck cares

you old mutherfcuckers

GOTT MOVE THE FCK ON WITH LIFE

STOP LIVIN IN THE PAST
ITS OVER ,,THEY TEARIN DOWN STATUES NOW
THEM MUTHERFCKERS DONT CARE ABOUT STANLEY DANCER OR BILL FCKIN ODONELL

its startin to be annoyoin as fck with these
66 yr old i dont give a fck about stories

back to my GUY ANTHONY MAC

DOMINATION IN RACIN IN CANADA
FOR 2020

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 25, 2020, 10:30:40 PM
Well there went 100.00.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 25, 2020, 10:33:18 PM
Settle down Rocky that kind of BS will get you a good smack up side the head.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 25, 2020, 11:08:28 PM
Countdown to BOOM.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 26, 2020, 08:33:18 AM
Settle down Rocky that kind of BS will get you a good smack up side the head.

BE QUIET AND DONT DERAIL THREADS WITH

65 YR OLD STORIES THAT NOBODY GIVES A FCK ABOUT
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 26, 2020, 09:13:29 AM
$130k+ In to qualify this morning
Not including the ones you canít buy shares on....
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 26, 2020, 10:19:27 AM
BE QUIET AND DONT DERAIL THREADS WITH

65 YR OLD STORIES THAT NOBODY GIVES A FCK ABOUT
Over and over again it's proven squirts always get brave and mouthy from a distance or when in a gang and you prove it every day.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 26, 2020, 10:22:55 AM
BE QUIET AND DONT DERAIL THREADS WITH

65 YR OLD STORIES THAT NOBODY GIVES A FCK ABOUT

  This thread is about crying about AMac.  Not crying about Stanley comments.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 26, 2020, 10:24:38 AM
  This thread is about crying about AMac.  Not crying about Stanley comments.

THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

I DONT A RATS ASS ABOUT STANLEY HE DEAD ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 26, 2020, 10:25:49 AM
THATS WHAT IM SAYIN

I DONT A RATS ASS ABOUT STANLEY HE DEAD ngc3 ngc3

WAS AN ASSHOLE WHEN ALIVE
WHO CARES ABOUT STANLEY I GOTTA AGREE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 26, 2020, 10:30:02 AM
JC this thread has gone on longer than A Mac's season this year and we're just about into July. He got to the top rung in his pyramid scheme about a year and a half ago and now he is on the fast slide back to the east coast never to be heard from again.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 26, 2020, 10:34:51 AM
  Going down faster than tires on an Electra 225
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on June 26, 2020, 02:02:46 PM
Or the tires on the cavalier luc bought Jenny
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 26, 2020, 02:07:32 PM
Or the tires on the cavalier luc bought Jenny

You finally traded that one in?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 26, 2020, 02:20:25 PM
You finally traded that one in?
lol ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

She drives a Range Rover

Delroy
And she still not happy
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 26, 2020, 05:37:09 PM
Nothing worse than a car salesman and isn't that exactly how AM appears on all his videos everything is looking great for investors and then when he is off screen it's like the car salesman we all know and all about which is the next customer he can screw.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 26, 2020, 05:38:28 PM
WOW IM HURT

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on June 26, 2020, 06:10:56 PM
Should I band I.F. again?

 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MeadowMacho on June 27, 2020, 06:58:32 PM
Globetrotting  ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on June 27, 2020, 07:09:34 PM
Should I band I.F. again?

 ngc3

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 27, 2020, 11:04:53 PM
at the sire stakes tonight in ohio
1st hirse....6th by 25 last q 32
2nd hirse gallop past the wire no check
3rd hoirse 6th by 20

so with the 1000 shipping 150 ship to the track 120 groom fee
50 overnight watchman fee....
the owners are out bigtime...
take another vacation amac
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 27, 2020, 11:07:25 PM
oh and up at mohawk watch ave 9th
350 dollar starting fee down the drain
plus 150 paddock me
150 shipping for 20 minute drive....

mismanagement.com
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 27, 2020, 11:27:07 PM
at the sire stakes tonight in ohio
1st hirse....6th by 25 last q 32
2nd hirse gallop past the wire no check
3rd hoirse 6th by 20

so with the 1000 shipping 150 ship to the track 120 groom fee
50 overnight watchman fee....
the owners are out bigtime...
take another vacation amac


So by your logic they shouldnt pay the groom or the shipper if the horses donít get a cheque? interesting.

2nd horse earned a small cheque.

total shipping fee from Northfield Park to Northfield Park = $0

being your fact checker is a full time job.

same fillies made $25,000 last time out. canít win em all bud
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 27, 2020, 11:29:13 PM

So by your logic they shouldnt pay the groom or the shipper if the horses donít get a cheque? interesting.

2nd horse earned a small cheque.

total shipping fee from Northfield Park to Northfield Park = $0

being your fact checker is a full time job.

same fillies made $25,000 last time out. canít win em all bud

you never give up

you will crawl into the bunker and talk shit from down there before blowing it up

the whole stable couldnt be going and worse and here you are defeniding it like im wrong
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 27, 2020, 11:33:59 PM
you never give up

you will crawl into the bunker and talk shit from down there before blowing it up

the whole stable couldnt be going and worse and here you are defeniding it like im wrong

I corrected the things you said that were factually incorrect. youíre entitled to your opinion, but when you give false information Iím going to correct it. donít be sad.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 28, 2020, 12:57:36 AM
Swandre..

1. What about the shipping fees from Canada to Ohio? I can't imagine how much he billed the owners...maybe double?
2. Who do you think is going to pay AM's living expenses while in Ohio as he travels to drive the horses rather than use decent catch drivers?
3. Almost forgot race 13 at Northfield...anot her no check...horse finished 7th

When are you going to admit that AM can't train a dog to bark. As his brother said AM empties the tank in training or qualifiers leaving nothing for the races.
It will be interesting to see what Arctic Force does tomorrow night since AM said he trained him by himself in 1:52. The best thing the horse has going for him is that AM is NOT driving

The funny thing is i actually dont think hes that bad a trainer or driver. Ibthink hes actually good at both.
Its his mismanagement and doing things for his own interests rather than whats best for the horse or owners that i have my issues with
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on June 28, 2020, 01:00:25 AM
A ouch night grassroots friday and saturday and OHSS not good. 2 of the 3 should be in buckeye bad management. The stable clients getting restless as AM fields lots of texts but it's ok he has thick skin. Globetrotting going to set back if she is best number 3 or 4 in OH has no shot being GC and that was the high hope. There is a 48-72 watch list of horses that can't cut....40 should have been cut in Oct 2019. He blames covid for horses ready in Mar when they could have made some money. Now all being equal with everyone's horses ready and racing at the same time his can't compete. His words not mine. It is frustrating however having a 53-52 pacers at 3 and can't make money in the grassroots. No easy checks even with a 52 pacer. Tough game.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 28, 2020, 01:00:40 AM
Globetrotting dead lame btw

 Guess that's what happens when you send a horse all out from the 9 hole in its 1st race of the year

Anyways the right thing to do is to bench the horse for the meantime but you better believe the horse will be right back in the Box and be ruined further
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 28, 2020, 01:03:40 AM
A ouch night grassroots friday and saturday and OHSS not good. 2 of the 3 should be in buckeye bad management. The stable clients getting restless as AM fields lots of texts but it's ok he has thick skin. Globetrotting going to set back if she is best number 3 or 4 in OH has no shot being GC and that was the high hope. There is a 48-72 watch list of horses that can't cut....40 should have been cut in Oct 2019. He blames covid for horses ready in Mar when they could have made some money. Now all being equal with everyone's horses ready and racing at the same time his can't compete. His words not mine. It is frustrating however having a 53-52 pacers at 3 and can't make money in the grassroots. No easy checks even with a 52 pacer. Tough game.


Thats why you dont buy mediocre pacing yearlings
Unless you are a small timer racing fairs or a hobby guy

Or you just want as many training bills as you cam get so you can be the only horsemen in the country that takes multiple vacations a year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 28, 2020, 01:16:31 AM
Whens the fire sale?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 28, 2020, 01:44:26 AM
Ill help with some liquidity

See if you can get a price for tymal houdini or just for me n u
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 28, 2020, 09:09:12 AM
Globetrotting dead lame btw

 Guess that's what happens when you send a horse all out from the 9 hole in its 1st race of the year

Anyways the right thing to do is to bench the horse for the meantime but you better believe the horse will be right back in the Box and be ruined further


😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 28, 2020, 09:57:33 AM
tymal houdini could be very good
spirit of deo has hope
and purple even symba is a very useful racehorse
a whole bunch need to go
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 28, 2020, 11:13:17 AM
tymal houdini could be very good
spirit of deo has hope
and purple even symba is a very useful racehorse
a whole
bunch need to go

symba is probably down money for the owners onthe year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 29, 2020, 10:03:31 AM
Quote
MACDONALD,ANTHONY A               
ON    - DID USE MORE THAN ACCEPTABLE WRIST ACTION       WHILE URGING.
Commission Rule Number : 22.23.03 (B), 22.23.05 (A+B) AND POLICY DIRECTIVE 3-2019                       
Date Issued : 27-JUN-2020
Total Due :    300.00
Violation Occurred : Race 9 at WOODBINE MOHAWK PARK on 26-JUN-2020
Suspended From 12-JUL-2020 To 16-JUL-2020 (Driving Suspension)
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 29, 2020, 11:27:25 AM


desperate men make desperate moves
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 29, 2020, 11:30:29 AM
probably trying to win the race which is what most of them are trying to do( you would hope)
quite sure he is not the only driver to get this suspension
 fine line and judges opinion
non issue
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on June 29, 2020, 01:54:01 PM
probably trying to win the race which is what most of them are trying to do( you would hope)
quite sure he is not the only driver to get this suspension
 fine line and judges opinion
non issue

12th lifetime start
Other drivers have won races without beating on them
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 30, 2020, 03:23:18 PM
purple
you were right about wanting to buy stonebridge symba
 154.4 (lifetime best) winner today at the meadows

 


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on June 30, 2020, 05:53:22 PM
purple
you were right about wanting to buy stonebridge symba
 154.4 (lifetime best) winner today at the meadows




  Do you know how much we have been billed/lost on Stonebridge Symba?



 He can't/won't sell him for a decent price because he bled the owners dry
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 30, 2020, 06:48:09 PM
kole
 i think you can put your shares up for sale on the board
problem solved
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cornishcommish on June 30, 2020, 07:06:27 PM
Looks like a 1:52 trotter at Meadowlands.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 30, 2020, 07:16:03 PM
another gallop in the first at mohawk
this is getting to be like trump

the hits just keep on coming

it takes hard work and thinking of others to succedd

not self thinking
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 30, 2020, 07:18:40 PM
another gallop in the first at mohawk
this is getting to be like trump

the hits just keep on coming

it takes hard work and thinking of others to succedd

not self thinking

   Why doesn't he hire good help and let them take care of shit, and just demand results, like the big stables I was aware of do?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on June 30, 2020, 08:08:00 PM


 Anthony gave up on "Royal Tyrone" & sold him to Robert Shepherd

 raced tonight, 2nd by a neck @ mohawk in 158 flat

 2year old colt


 Maybe Anthony should have kept this guy & gave up one of the 2 year olds he crippled already, instead.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 30, 2020, 08:14:20 PM

 Anthony gave up on "Royal Tyrone" & sold him to Robert Shepherd

 raced tonight, 2nd by a neck @ mohawk in 158 flat

 2year old colt


 Maybe Anthony should have kept this guy & gave up one of the 2 year olds he crippled already, instead.

man o man

i wonder what the owners think about that
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 30, 2020, 08:17:57 PM

 Anthony gave up on "Royal Tyrone" & sold him to Robert Shepherd

 raced tonight, 2nd by a neck @ mohawk in 158 flat

 2year old colt


 Maybe Anthony should have kept this guy & gave up one of the 2 year olds he crippled already, instead.

  Thats not a strong factor anywhere. Bet stable owners are wondering, or just clueless.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 30, 2020, 08:34:39 PM
man o man

i wonder what the owners think about that

horse had one owner and that owner sold him.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on June 30, 2020, 08:38:31 PM
   Why doesn't he hire good help and let them take care of shit, and just demand results, like the big stables I was aware of do?

if youíve got this all figured out why arenít you running a big Stable?

that horse almost never breaks. looks like he got into the horse in front of him a bit getting into the turn

do you guys watch the races or just read the lines? they broadcast the races in HD now, just a tip.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 30, 2020, 08:51:56 PM
if youíve got this all figured out why arenít you running a big Stable?

that horse almost never breaks. looks like he got into the horse in front of him a bit getting into the turn

do you guys watch the races or just read the lines? they broadcast the races in HD now, just a tip.

i am running a big stable...

thanks for playing
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 30, 2020, 09:01:53 PM
but still no mention of stonebridge symba today
he doesn't count i guess

and you say he sold royal tyrone to robert shepard
i see the owner as a numbered company
i see the trainer as darveau
and oh yes shepard is the driver
small details
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on June 30, 2020, 09:23:28 PM

 Anthony gave up on "Royal Tyrone" & sold him to Robert Shepherd

 raced tonight, 2nd by a neck @ mohawk in 158 flat

 2year old colt


 Maybe Anthony should have kept this guy & gave up one of the 2 year olds he crippled already, instead.

horse is owned by an owner (numbered company) who has many horses with different trainers - Shep and his friend train a few for him.  Shep doesnt own this guy  - same owner as Dancer Hall and others.
Kole were shares ever offered for sale on this guy? somehow I doubt it?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 30, 2020, 09:32:52 PM
if youíve got this all figured out why arenít you running a big Stable?

that horse almost never breaks. looks like he got into the horse in front of him a bit getting into the turn

do you guys watch the races or just read the lines? they broadcast the races in HD now, just a tip.

I was one of the guys that helped out. Pretty easy to be at a phone when they tell ya...the horse stuff is discussed.  How hard was/is this?

AMac wants those harness bags lined up...50 owners comin by.  Get some rest.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on June 30, 2020, 09:37:47 PM
Well the lottery has started on when TheStable folds $5.00 and pick your day.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on June 30, 2020, 09:39:06 PM
anyone see spirit of deo race
just aksin
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 30, 2020, 09:39:23 PM
Well the lottery has started on when TheStable folds $5.00 and pick your day.

ill take end of november
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 30, 2020, 09:40:10 PM
Well the lottery has started on when TheStable folds $5.00 and pick your day.

Might get more action if a month was involved.  Looks like AMac can stretch it out a long ways...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on June 30, 2020, 09:42:01 PM
anyone see spirit of deo race
just aksin

i didnt see it buti bet her
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on June 30, 2020, 09:51:10 PM
i didnt see it buti bet her

I BET HER TOO 73cv.2
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 01, 2020, 12:05:30 PM
Royal Tyrone was never up for sale on shares. While private owners and breeders are time to time this one never was.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 01, 2020, 12:13:31 PM
Ok Ed we will spell it out, DAY AND MONTH action has been heavy.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lil Bit on July 01, 2020, 12:49:04 PM
Spirit of Deo win last night despite the drive. She looks like a nice filly but a few more of those [look at me drives] she will turn in to another one of his uncontrollable pieces of shit. This guy is completely lost on the track and you can see the pressure in his driving.The ship is sinking so get ouit while there are still lifeboats
 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 01, 2020, 12:50:15 PM
Ok Ed we will spell it out, DAY AND MONTH action has been heavy.

My bet is he gets 1 more turn then it's over.  I'll take NOV '21 for 5 bux.  If we gotta break ties, we go to days...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 01, 2020, 12:51:32 PM
Spirit of Deo win last night despite the drive. She looks like a nice filly but a few more of those [look at me drives] she will turn in to another one of his uncontrollable pieces of shit. This guy is completely lost on the track and you can see the pressure in his driving.The ship is sinking so get ouit while there are still lifeboats

SHORTAGE OF LIFEBOATS ON THIS SHIP TOO 73cv.2
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on July 01, 2020, 02:06:35 PM
Friday night
Race 1
Imalovelylady.

Nice looking 2yr trotting filly.
Unfortunately drew the 8 hole on half mile track in first lifetome start with lots of speed inside

The obvious thing to do would be to say to yourself
Weve got a nive filly here, even though purse is 40k we got screwed with 8 hole so lets just take back and teach and get the money over the next 2 years..

Or just blast out


Lets see...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 01, 2020, 03:53:26 PM
correct purple
 no argument
lets see
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lil Bit on July 01, 2020, 06:27:37 PM
Purple  you already know the answer to your question LETS GO!!!!!!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 01, 2020, 11:22:44 PM
I think he could float her it is 2 or old filly trotters to find a spot. She does have some gate speed but have interest in this race. Congrats on the stable breaking the 0 for Mohawk. That was a nice mile.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on July 02, 2020, 12:04:18 AM
I think he could float her it is 2 or old filly trotters to find a spot. She does have some gate speed but have interest in this race. Congrats on the stable breaking the 0 for Mohawk. That was a nice mile.

floating out wouldnt be so bad...

but i say he gas pedals her
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 04, 2020, 12:27:01 AM
Decent night for the 6 stake races 3 3rd's and 3 4th's that is counting the ONT race. Cassie with a Big Jim colt in 51.3 first race out. Tough to compete against that. Ohio races lacked any monsters that usually rip around that Cleveland oval first time out OHSS. Other then first filly and first colt race a lot or just average type miles? All stable horses clean lines and a check but past couple years the first race was a spring board with wins for the stable. While Beaver sent out 13 horses grabbing 3 wins and 4 seconds.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 04, 2020, 02:51:11 PM
HES SENDIN OUT SOME SOLID 2 YR OLDS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: marsh99 on July 04, 2020, 03:59:30 PM
Looks like their entry into the 2yo filly Next Generation race at Scioto is a scratch. Too bad...could have been a good opening week. I wonder if they get their 10k back for that spot.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on July 04, 2020, 06:00:57 PM
put up 10k (100 per share) and scratched ineligible.  id be fuucckkinnn piissssseeddd
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: marsh99 on July 04, 2020, 07:44:24 PM
Wonder why she was ineligible? Seems like something one would know beforehand, or perhaps someone fell asleep at the wheel. Either way, tremendously disappointing.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 04, 2020, 11:24:36 PM
The filly pacer wasn't the stable first choice. This filly was a backup choice. From there one has to ask what happened? 25k in entry fees for Ohio yesterday and today brings a - to purses earned...granted different owners.

Here's a question from a AM video. Really blue Chip has been awful but ready since Mar/April. Covid hits but all 3 year olds stayed the training course. Comments on video Really BC needs to 200lbs. 200 pounds is a lot of weight and takes a lot of time to add. Why was this horse not turned out for well being?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 05, 2020, 12:03:59 AM
Make that 22,500 entry fees
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: PurpleSheetPicks on July 05, 2020, 12:07:09 PM
downnnnnn it goes
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 05, 2020, 12:59:15 PM
downnnnnn it goes

 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: whiptherabbit on July 07, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Well at least the horses never had Anthony driving them last night @ Mohawk, thatís a bonus.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on July 08, 2020, 03:15:40 PM


 So the horses that aren't near Anthony seem to do "ok" but the excuses piling up for him, he is piss poor.

 He drives them harder in qualifiers than they can actually go, soundly, in a race.


 The Stables horses only do half decent when he stays the fck away from them.

 I saw his wife "training" a set with him & some others, whoever gave the OK for her to go on the track with a young baby- is clueless. He shouldn't be near a a baby, let alone she!

 
 Look at how many clients got "soaked" all winter on bringing back garbage 3 yr olds...
 
 His SebastianK 3 yr old has been given back by multiple trainers already this year. (Imagine paying Ake to train her, then Butenshoen, now Moreau gave her back- they must have $25K into her for training bills in 2020)


 WHAT ABOUT THE "next generaTION Stakes" FIASCO?



 BUT WAIT:

 Took 2 horses & paid over 20K US to enter them, got a 6th and the other was ineligible.
 HONESTLY- YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2020, 03:34:50 PM
How Miss Meringue doing?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 08, 2020, 03:35:25 PM
cheddar get disqualified yesterday thought he raced well
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on July 08, 2020, 04:29:13 PM

 So the horses that aren't near Anthony seem to do "ok" but the excuses piling up for him, he is piss poor.

 He drives them harder in qualifiers than they can actually go, soundly, in a race.


 The Stables horses only do half decent when he stays the fck away from them.

 I saw his wife "training" a set with him & some others, whoever gave the OK for her to go on the track with a young baby- is clueless. He shouldn't be near a a baby, let alone she!

 
 Look at how many clients got "soaked" all winter on bringing back garbage 3 yr olds...
 
 His SebastianK 3 yr old has been given back by multiple trainers already this year. (Imagine paying Ake to train her, then Butenshoen, now Moreau gave her back- they must have $25K into her for training bills in 2020)


 WHAT ABOUT THE "next generaTION Stakes" FIASCO?



 BUT WAIT:

 Took 2 horses & paid over 20K US to enter them, got a 6th and the other was ineligible.
 HONESTLY- YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP...

Just gotta be able to market yourself. Horseman like to talk.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2020, 04:35:05 PM
How Miss Meringue doing?
Anyone?

Buehler?  Buehler??
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on July 08, 2020, 04:51:08 PM
Anyone?

Buehler?  Buehler??

looked her up - ran 3rd in Sires Stake - first leg - got run into a couple of times - raced okay -
probably if she drew inside could have run 2nd - not a bad first start and despite Purple thinking he would leave with every one of the trotters, he took back with them. 

Looks like she is not done growing from what I could see - could be a fair sized filly -

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 08, 2020, 06:54:36 PM
Anyone?

Buehler?  Buehler??

You own her and don't know? ngc3
AND....
owning dead guys stable is an absolute fuckin classic ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2020, 07:18:34 PM
You own her and don't know? ngc3
AND....
owning dead guys stable is an absolute fuckin classic ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
I'm just looking for Daps from my fans.

3rd for $40k first out. 

Me and Lucpark still got Zero combined wins....but mine is stakes placed.

That other thing... Dude lying out his ass.  He'll be sorry.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 08, 2020, 07:20:40 PM
I'm just looking for Daps from my fans.

3rd for $40k first out. 

Me and Lucpark still got Zero combined wins....but mine is stakes placed.

That other thing... Dude lying out his ass.  He'll be sorry.

JOSHUA TREE?

WAS SET TO RUN 3RD THIS WHOLE CONTEST
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 08, 2020, 07:26:48 PM
JOSHUA TREE?
IDK

Dude like 50 years old but I heard he getting Pop's Eldorado Biarritz  for netting $20k a month.

Bonus that boy up now
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 08, 2020, 07:29:39 PM
IDK

Dude like 50 years old but I heard he getting Pop's Eldorado Biarritz  for netting $20k a month.

Bonus that boy up now

HORSE IS A 4YR OLD WITH 66K ON CARD...FATHER LISTED FIRST 73cv.2
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Carnival People on July 11, 2020, 10:12:27 AM
Andrew McCarthy pulled the two hole twice with Maverick bit ducked back in....Once passing three quarters and again after a brave-up tuck through the lane and he still could not or would not gain an inch on Caruso driven by Dave Miller.   I can see not pushing him in a baby race but this horse would not take a step forward when Andrew pulled the right line.  He looks great gaited but when you pay a million you expect a steamroller.   He looks like a steamroller but doesn't go like one.   Last week they said "tied up" but this horse doesn't like to go by horses. 

I wouldn't count him out yet.  But a mile in 56.3 he should go right by at $1,000,000.

Doesn't matter.  He'll make money and go to Europe for stud or he might wake up and be an okay horse.  Caruso won but he didn't look like a great trotter in the making either.  Nothing to write home about.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on July 14, 2020, 05:01:54 PM
Donít miss the Dispersal Sale Wednesday night
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Dingus on July 14, 2020, 05:17:20 PM
Donít miss the Dispersal Sale Wednesday night

Not much stock from what I can see- AMac in his write-ups blames it on the Coronavirus in most cases.    91zxa.1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 14, 2020, 06:56:22 PM
AM blames a lot of things. Never heard of so many horses having allergies even though not one is mention to have a rash.
His excuse to owners was having his poor stock ready to roll against other poor stock in Mar. But because of covid all the horses
came back and his can't compete. Or get in on a regular basis. His comments not getting in at Ohio tracks for overnights are simple...they are
not OH owned. Makes no mention of that. The dispersal are a few 2yr olds that they couldn't sell. The others given the reason are
up for sale would curtail to another 25 at least 3 year olds with no chance. Yet he tells owners on the ones for sale its not fair to be charging a monthly bill. He talks in circles but should be honest to all the owners on exactly what he is after if the horse isn't stake worthy, can't get in, not competitive, doesn't see a 90 day window for the horse. Would think more coming down the pipe at the Aug blooded horse sale. There is no entertainment in horses that are 3 and still can't compete in nw 1 or nw2. Also a lot of his young horses have zero finish. Yes a handful of minor pieces in the first round of stake races. Not good going forward.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 14, 2020, 08:31:46 PM
Tick-Tock the Day of Tits Up is on the horizon.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 15, 2020, 09:45:46 PM
Isn't the purpose of a dispersal sale to sell the horses that were deemed expendable for many reasons...not buy back 4 of the 10? A stable of poor horses I guess he can't get away from collecting those bills.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on July 15, 2020, 11:01:48 PM
Andrew McCarthy pulled the two hole twice with Maverick bit ducked back in....Once passing three quarters and again after a brave-up tuck through the lane and he still could not or would not gain an inch on Caruso driven by Dave Miller.   I can see not pushing him in a baby race but this horse would not take a step forward when Andrew pulled the right line.  He looks great gaited but when you pay a million you expect a steamroller.   He looks like a steamroller but doesn't go like one.   Last week they said "tied up" but this horse doesn't like to go by horses. 

I wouldn't count him out yet.  But a mile in 56.3 he should go right by at $1,000,000.

Doesn't matter.  He'll make money and go to Europe for stud or he might wake up and be an okay horse.  Caruso won but he didn't look like a great trotter in the making either.  Nothing to write home about.

I'm sure the connections are hoping that hes just green and not lacking heart. Its extremely frustrating sitting behind a perfect gaited horse who has had the trip the entire mile and when you pull the right line at the 1/8 he does nothing but play follow the leader
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on July 15, 2020, 11:35:41 PM
Isn't the purpose of a dispersal sale to sell the horses that were deemed expendable for many reasons...not buy back 4 of the 10? A stable of poor horses I guess he can't get away from collecting those bills.

Well they weren't going for much.  I am not sure what amish horses go for in Canada but I'm pretty sure I can get more for the one I bought from the Amish in the states.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 16, 2020, 12:16:59 AM
Golfhbm there must have been a change on one of the reserved buy back because it now says sold. So 7 sold for a average of 8200. Couple reserve on two not meet around 7k and one just over 13k. See how many show up at Blooded sale end of Aug
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 07:58:13 AM
What I found suspicious is that at the start of the year SC and Ontario Racing were selecting trainers that they would do trainers trailers up with fancy decals promoting the trainer and racing and after all the promoting they did for TheStable they didn't do a trailer for Anthony. As said before those who were in AM's corner in the beginning are distancing themselves from him now as they realize the scam it was.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 16, 2020, 08:11:12 AM
point might be valid
trailer wraps being done by cosa
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 08:16:34 AM
Yes I stand corrected.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 16, 2020, 09:45:39 AM
Iceman...the sad part is it's a good concept the guy seems to know enough about training horses one can question his years of driving. He will even attest to that. But then you hear a video on Really Blue Chip. The horse made some ripples in the NYSS last year and made a little money. Was all geared up and ready to go beginning of April. As were a lot or most of the 3 yr olds. Then covid and a pause. All horses were still in training mode not knowing a starting date. So what's with RBC she was a disaster on the track when racing came back and his reasoning behind it was she needed 200lbs of weight. Now if your a owner in this game and at least know a few things 200lbs is a big deal for a horse that came back from time off and hadn't begun the riggers of summer racing. Also that it takes many months to add 200lbs. So WHY was this horse even training in Feb and Mar and not turned out to add weight. Just one of a few things that make you go hmm?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 10:30:52 AM
My thoughts are based on from investors that cut their loses and got out. Now some of the comments though you could tell these investors should never of got in and this in the end was AM's grand play. Entice the no nothings into owning a piece to cover costs and then only a select few, key word few would get in on the ones that had a chance. But again AM is useless as a judge of horse flesh, can't train and can't drive. End result this scam is coming to an end quick.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 16, 2020, 10:36:09 AM
My thoughts are based on from investors that cut their loses and got out. Now some of the comments though you could tell these investors should never of got in and this in the end was AM's grand play. Entice the no nothings into owning a piece to cover costs and then only a select few, key word few would get in on the ones that had a chance. But again AM is useless as a judge of horse flesh, can't train and can't drive. End result this scam is coming to an end quick.

  How did it get this far?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 16, 2020, 10:51:56 AM
I'm in.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 16, 2020, 10:54:03 AM
I'm in.

Getting in on several or letting Anthony decide quality and quantity?  That's what most appear to be doing.  I advise bucking the trend here......
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 11:00:43 AM
  How did it get this far?
Ed when some newbies read how WEG and SC promote the hell out of it the newbies figure everything is on the up and up but when they see all their monthly bills finish up the track or DNF then they realize they got taken.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 11:02:34 AM
I'm in.
Every barn needs someone to muck stalls and your a living legend at that, mucking stalls.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 16, 2020, 11:21:23 AM
Ed when some newbies read how WEG and SC promote the hell out of it the newbies figure everything is on the up and up but when they see all their monthly bills finish up the track or DNF then they realize they got taken.

  That may suckers walkin around with cash up there, or is this guy a slick operator with great presentation?  Answer seems obvious. I hope Calhoun really buys in.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 16, 2020, 11:32:04 AM
  That may suckers walkin around with cash up there, or is this guy a slick operator with great presentation?  Answer seems obvious. I hope Calhoun really buys in.
Very slick.  Filly sold for $60k.  We got in at a val of $85.  I  won my 1/2 a share on a ufc fight.  It's not a lot of money involved.

Bunch of has beens and never weres counting other peoples $ like they IRS or some shit.   

Anthony found a way to make some money.  So what if people lose a little cash?  Ain't like 98% of the loser owners here are not in the same situation,,, only they are EV 10,000x the loss Calhoun can max see.

The drone vids are to die for.

btw, she's in.  You can root against Calhoun! 

p.s.  You know you're on the wrong end of things when IceFag is your go to guy on any thread.   That's been proven by science.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: FirstUpFrom8Hole on July 16, 2020, 11:42:50 AM
I don't know the guy well, but remember the movie Used Cars with Kurt Russell? "Mister, you ran over my dog."

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 16, 2020, 05:57:03 PM
What I found suspicious is that at the start of the year SC and Ontario Racing were selecting trainers that they would do trainers trailers up with fancy decals promoting the trainer and racing and after all the promoting they did for TheStable they didn't do a trailer for Anthony. As said before those who were in AM's corner in the beginning are distancing themselves from him now as they realize the scam it was.

😂😂😂

thatís quite a conspiracy but the truth is it just wasnít taken in until recently and was done a month ago.

sorry to put a damper on that one, it was a good read though. points for creativity
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 06:45:17 PM
Anything you say piss ant but nobody has seen it yet all the others have been out there. You must be AM or someone close to the scam it is.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 16, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
😂😂😂

thatís quite a conspiracy but the truth is it just wasnít taken in until recently and was done a month ago.

sorry to put a damper on that one, it was a good read though. points for creativity
tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 16, 2020, 07:10:41 PM
Meanwhile, you can get a share of Baffert's Ky Derby contender Authentic for only $206.

Your $206 gets you 0.001% ownership of the horse.   tmbz1

That's a $20,000,000+ valuation. 

Sounds good to me.  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on July 16, 2020, 07:44:04 PM
Calhoun. Did you just say you paid $85 for 1% of a $60k horse?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 16, 2020, 08:01:52 PM
Calhoun. Did you just say you paid $85 for 1% of a $60k horse?
no
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on July 16, 2020, 08:10:22 PM
Very slick.  Filly sold for $60k.  We got in at a val of $85.  I  won my 1/2 a share on a ufc fight.  It's not a lot of money involved.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on July 16, 2020, 08:11:03 PM
What was other $25k for.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 16, 2020, 08:48:53 PM
What was other $25k for.

He lies out his ass daily.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 08:52:47 PM
Then come Christmas time he goes back to the only job he knows, the black elf in Bad Santa.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 16, 2020, 09:44:35 PM
Anything you say piss ant but nobody has seen it yet all the others have been out there. You must be AM or someone close to the scam it is.

Literally on the COSA and Stable Facebook pages. quick browse could have saved you the embarrassment
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: SoulAssassin on July 16, 2020, 10:32:04 PM
Anything you say piss ant but nobody has seen it yet all the others have been out there. You must be AM or someone close to the scam it is.

of course they have da wrap it was a free handout! thought you were sharper then that melted ice
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 11:02:52 PM
of course they have da wrap it was a free handout! thought you were sharper then that melted ice
Total waste of graphics and on a small trailer.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 16, 2020, 11:04:08 PM
Golfhbm all good points  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 17, 2020, 06:26:11 AM
What was other $25k for.
Transpo back, bills, time, profit etc... She sold out at a val of $100k.

Any more questions?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 17, 2020, 06:29:05 AM
Golfhbm all good points  tmbz1
You got roasted again.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Maybe your new BFF Jim ButFuk will come along with a tube of ointment.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 17, 2020, 06:30:43 AM
He lies out his ass daily.
You've been "in the business" 47 years.

But the never let you near the money, right?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 17, 2020, 11:26:14 AM
You've been "in the business" 47 years.

But the never let you near the money, right?

  They ration it out...they know me.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 17, 2020, 01:10:03 PM
just an fyi
not everyone owns shares in each and every horse
some people are selective and have some that do okay
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 17, 2020, 01:46:35 PM
  There is no way to skew any numbers to favor this deal.  That's what I'm reading.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on July 17, 2020, 02:10:40 PM
Transpo back, bills, time, profit etc... She sold out at a val of $100k.

Any more questions?
Not trying to be an ass. Just asking questions to try to figure out how he is making a living with this deal. With the cost of keeping a racehorse and paying help $2k a month doesnít seem worth the aggravation. But if you can inflate the price to people who have no knowledge of what a horse should be worth, thatís where the big profits come in.  Maybe I missed it in an earlier post what is the name of the horse you own
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 17, 2020, 02:28:48 PM
But if you can inflate the price to people who have no knowledge of what a horse should be worth
Yes, that's me.

Any other questions?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 17, 2020, 03:40:57 PM
Anthony mac comin to the lexinging sales this yr

with new approach and new owners

no more shares I was just told

just 20% of horses and up

too many small share horses bowing out

,,

that's what the scoop was tmbz1

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 17, 2020, 03:54:57 PM
Anthony mac comin to the lexinging sales this yr

with new approach and new owners

no more shares I was just told

just 20% of horses and up

too many small share horses bowing out

,,

that's what the scoop was tmbz1

  Will he get them ready the same?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Harness Stats on July 17, 2020, 03:56:42 PM
someone please explain how those emojis became part of my post when I have NEVER used emojis in anything. Is someone hacking the posts?

When you write 3 question marks in a row on your post it becomes the emoji for "huh"

Nobody's hacking your or anybody's posts .... I hope  ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on July 17, 2020, 03:57:02 PM
Anthony mac comin to the lexinging sales this yr

with new approach and new owners

no more shares I was just told

just 20% of horses and up

too many small share horses bowing out

so you are joining then based on this new criteria ?  hell, you can probably get Ice and Calhoun to take the same shares and you guys can be the Three Amigos Stable  or  Pepsi Meringue Stable

,,

that's what the scoop was tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 17, 2020, 03:57:59 PM
where did I say I was joining Anthony mac racing?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on July 17, 2020, 04:00:49 PM
Im asking, thats all -
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on July 17, 2020, 04:01:58 PM
you guys could buy one with him and change the horses name to
Rockthetightywhit eys

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 17, 2020, 04:04:50 PM
Im asking, thats all -

no sir

Anthony is not for me
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 17, 2020, 06:08:05 PM
here goes
 to be clear i am defining a good horse as one that most of us would want to own, purchase price has nothing to do with the list although  you can assume most were bought  for $25 k or less
also this is not to say how they do tonight or next week but ones that could turn a profit and have some value over the next few years
cruising in style
tymal houdini
white tiger
spirit of deo
globetrotting
walkon the moon
warrawee welcome
yes
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on July 17, 2020, 06:27:49 PM
based on the roster, i would add in Cavill Hanover - may be a good 4 year old
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 17, 2020, 09:39:33 PM
Anthony mac comin to the lexinging sales this yr

with new approach and new owners

no more shares I was just told

just 20% of horses and up

too many small share horses bowing out

,,

that's what the scoop was tmbz1

your scoop was awful
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 17, 2020, 10:18:31 PM
your scoop was awful

  A few guys got told the same thing.  Is this the new angle?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 17, 2020, 11:33:17 PM
WoW what entertainment tonight across four tracks for the stable and it's ten entries. OHSS action tonight and
more proof of AM mismanagement of talent. IF this was for entertainment value only why are three or four of those
entered not placed in the Buckeye to actually win and make some money? Three breakers out of ten two in stakes
and S of Deo at Mohawk. Has Miss M the 100k plus investment cross the finish line yet? Once again another night of
horses that tend to be followers and back up into the pack either earning a small check or no check. These horses spent
already in middle of July or far less superior in talent against the foes they race against? Again cheap horses in most cases not
all...very rarely rise to the top. With 100 or more head a fire sale in place late Aug so AM can start buying in the 2020 new
babies? Horses will be priced cheaper in 2020 can imagine he will have tough choices passing on so many under 10k
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 18, 2020, 03:26:38 AM
WoW what entertainment tonight across four tracks for the stable and it's ten entries. OHSS action tonight and
more proof of AM mismanagement of talent. IF this was for entertainment value only why are three or four of those
entered not placed in the Buckeye to actually win and make some money? Three breakers out of ten two in stakes
and S of Deo at Mohawk. Has Miss M the 100k plus investment cross the finish line yet? Once again another night of
horses that tend to be followers and back up into the pack either earning a small check or no check. These horses spent
already in middle of July or far less superior in talent against the foes they race against? Again cheap horses in most cases not
all...very rarely rise to the top. With 100 or more head a fire sale in place late Aug so AM can start buying in the 2020 new
babies? Horses will be priced cheaper in 2020 can imagine he will have tough choices passing on so many under 10k

I saw Lawmakers $60,000 Full Count brother get beat 15 lengths tonight
Globetrottingís $60,000 Full Count sister struggling as well

donít see any of you experts chirping about that? 

you think all those $100,000+ first day Lexington yearlings are turning a profit? 😂 Iíve got news for you.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 18, 2020, 03:43:14 AM
golfhbm is right on the money and many here and elsewhere think AM is an embarrassment to the game and finally some of the small timers are getting out and licking their wounds. Those who feel they got ripped off might have not known much when they got in but once AM took them to the school of put your money up and take your chances, I don't care I got paid they will start to talk and when they do fractional ownership will take a hit. There are a few here and there that will defend AM and either that's just talk for arguments sake or there just too stupid but whatever the case stick the fork in this turkey it's done.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on July 18, 2020, 06:49:02 AM
Yes, that's me.

Any other questions?
How about the name of the horse?   Just want to see what it accomplished to almost double in value
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brkn Headpole on July 18, 2020, 08:20:05 AM
Karma is a bitch. Remember when he told Frank Cirillo horse was no good, then he bought him, changed his name and won a couple gold OSS with it. Deserves everything coming to him.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 18, 2020, 08:52:59 AM
Brkn Headpole and with all the facts as you just pointed out he must be doping the coffee for his investors when they come out, facts are facts the guy is scum.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 18, 2020, 11:01:19 AM
I saw Lawmakers $60,000 Full Count brother get beat 15 lengths tonight
Globetrottingís $60,000 Full Count sister struggling as well

donít see any of you experts chirping about that? 

you think all those $100,000+ first day Lexington yearlings are turning a profit? 😂 Iíve got news for you.

  We have all discussed the sister/brother deals here alot.  No news there.  Get off the Titanic while you can.  When they tell you to pack your trunk, you'll get the hint.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 18, 2020, 11:31:24 AM
Swandre as mentioned the full brother half brother/sister has been a proven money killer over time for those that spend recklessly down that rabbit hole. A person like AM falls into that type of trap not on overvalued horses because he can't afford them. But like a cheap Symba or a bit tad expensive Rose Run V just to name a couple. AM who has declared many of times KNOWS SHIT about pedigree. His words not mine. So he takes black type and money earned and shovels it to the clients that this horse can produce. Please. Take Iglare AM has no affinity with dam to sire and it shows.  Besides your argument about that topic isn't what is being discussed with the stable having so many bad horses being marched out in the form of entertainment. That his is a money grab and 40 of these horses would be better off elsewhere. The guy says one thing about a group of horses when it can be said about 30 or 40% of the others but keeps them around? The problem with expensive full brother and sisters the ones making that choice fall with people that can muster that failure in a industry of poor RIO. They just move on to the next one. Stable can't because it's easier to explain and move on from a 15k animal that the book said the talent could possibly be there but the heart wasn't. Again someone that buys so many the law of averages say you will get something that excels. Problem for the stable that only hits around 5%. Not good!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 18, 2020, 11:51:21 AM
Poulton, McMaster, McGuiness their days of gassing is long gone and yet AM marches them out as his successful training crew which shows AM knows nothing. The whole scam makes sure AM wins at the expense of the know nothings. Take last night why were investors tabbed for AM to be at Scioto to drive when he can't drive and the horses looked terrible. Wake up investors take your lumps and get out.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 18, 2020, 12:24:15 PM
Besides the number of super mares out there that can throw 5 or more foals to different sires and achieve racing greatest are limited. You will find even the marginally less breed mare throw a foal or two that reach over 100k. But the production falls off the map. Those are a dime a dozen. Not even science can duplicate a Muscle Hill or a Donato Hanover or SBSW. So many factors play in before the foal drops and when it drops. Everything after that from flaws, to care, to environment, to not getting bruised up with other foals, to sale day and a new home. All things other then just being blood related factor in. Then if you believe the industry isnt perfect add in chemistry during racing life.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 18, 2020, 01:33:51 PM
  We have all discussed the sister/brother deals here alot.  No news there.  Get off the Titanic while you can.  When they tell you to pack your trunk, you'll get the hint.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 18, 2020, 01:41:38 PM
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I talked with Wayne.  He's glad he's gone.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on July 18, 2020, 02:44:15 PM
Andrew McCarthy pulled the two hole twice with Maverick bit ducked back in....Once passing three quarters and again after a brave-up tuck through the lane and he still could not or would not gain an inch on Caruso driven by Dave Miller.   I can see not pushing him in a baby race but this horse would not take a step forward when Andrew pulled the right line.  He looks great gaited but when you pay a million you expect a steamroller.   He looks like a steamroller but doesn't go like one.   Last week they said "tied up" but this horse doesn't like to go by horses. 

I wouldn't count him out yet.  But a mile in 56.3 he should go right by at $1,000,000.

Doesn't matter.  He'll make money and go to Europe for stud or he might wake up and be an okay horse.  Caruso won but he didn't look like a great trotter in the making either.  Nothing to write home about.

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Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on July 19, 2020, 02:00:09 PM



 Mrs Meringue now has an evaluation of a dollar thirty-five a share...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on July 20, 2020, 11:32:49 AM
Does James own any shares in horses that heís driving against tonight?
What about Jody?
Bob?
Doug?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on July 20, 2020, 07:20:14 PM
How much are Blue Monk shares?
Asking for a confused friend.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on July 26, 2020, 10:09:47 AM
Anyone got stable stats since it was established?? Most up and coming stables like to promote those stats.

Must not be pretty
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on July 26, 2020, 11:05:05 AM
Anyone got stable stats since it was established?? Most up and coming stables like to promote those stats.

Must not be pretty

If it was half decent we wouldnít hear the end of it...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: The Exporter on July 26, 2020, 12:00:52 PM
If it was half decent we wouldnít hear the end of it...
In retrospect, this business model was doomed for the vast majority of investors. It was pitched as a way for the undesirable colts and fillies from breeding farms that did not sell, to be purchased by the group to train and race. It met with little if any success. No surprises as this equine demographic rarely rises above its class. 
 Spreading the risk onto many shareholders does nothing to change the fact that these yearlings were then and proved later to be not worth the risk of investment.

 Anthony did up his game with decent State breds and is having a measure of success but , from where I sit, they only one making money and enjoying the investment of the partners is, Anthony.
 
 As a businessman, good for him. As an investor, well maybe you might want to reevaluate your commitment.   
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 26, 2020, 02:03:41 PM
Anyone got stable stats since it was established?? Most up and coming stables like to promote those stats.

Must not be pretty

show me one barn that ever posted their return on investment from the yearling sales.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on July 26, 2020, 02:56:17 PM
Not talking return in investment. Talking stable winning percentage. 1000-20-35-47. UTRS .169
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 26, 2020, 04:08:04 PM
Can't wait to hear the excuses for Fox Valley Britzka last night at Hoosier....4:5 and gets beat 30 lengths without a break...must need a small shoeing changed after the horse is scoped. Why does this idiot drive to Hoosier for this one horse and more important why do the owners pay his expenses?
Watch for him to brag how well the horses do at the Painesville Fair on Tuesday but he will probably forget to mention that 6 of the 8 races he is in have no more then 5 horses which is about the only way he can get a check.
The more people invest with him the larger the dumb and dumber club gets

looks like youíre investing your time following along so whoís really in the dumb club now? 😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on July 26, 2020, 05:12:13 PM
golfbhm - why arent your friends selling these shares on their market ?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on July 26, 2020, 05:23:20 PM
He own any in that Indiana horse last night?  Whatís his videos saying????
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 26, 2020, 08:09:29 PM
The videos are filled with clients asking a lot of questions and are onto the bs excuses for so many poor performance past two years. I've never seen 50 or more head come back worse at 3 then at 2. There stake horses Really BC, Harness AM, Spendthatmoney, Compass Rose DC not only couldn't compete at Sire stake can't compete in the lower stake. So many horses nw 1 and 2 that can't compete on ON b and c track. They may have a win or two recently at Mohawk. It's disgraceful display and now the past week they can blame a barn sickness for weeks of scratch horses. There star Globetrotting just average and not a GC horse so good luck with a handful of OH stakes left. Two year olds I think have a couple lower stake wins and not competitive elsewhere. Clients are texting and wanting explanations. Another poor 6-8 weeks a fire sale will happen and I would wager clients cashing out in no hurry to buy new yearlings. But I'm sure Swandre has a good explanation for 90% of the stable couldn't wps in a amish field of 7.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 28, 2020, 11:06:50 AM
Good luck to the eight stable horses racing in the fairs. They should be dominate today. Hopefully the #entertainment clients can find somewhere to watch their horses race? All the whining of can't find a spot to race in OH because of covid and full race cards. YOUR HORSES DON'T FIT THE RULES OF OHIO OWNED IS WHY!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 28, 2020, 12:16:59 PM
Good luck to the eight stable horses racing in the fairs. They should be dominate today. Hopefully the #entertainment clients can find somewhere to watch their horses race? All the whining of can't find a spot to race in OH because of covid and full race cards. YOUR HORSES DON'T FIT THE RULES OF OHIO OWNED IS WHY!!

theres a difference between sires and fairs

more stories and fables by

a mac

hes  entertainment cant really give him horses


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 28, 2020, 12:20:09 PM
A Mac is such a poor driver these boys will show just how bad he is. Investors you have to be totally blind not to see how A Mac is fucking you over, you deserve to go broke.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 28, 2020, 01:25:08 PM
60k purchase and over 100k investment finally finds a place a 2:06 mile that she can romp in. The #1 OH trot filly in Norman Hall pedigree breakdown is a fair winner. Congrats to those owners they actually cash a decent check away from the real OH horses. Make sure that gets reinvested in Sep at the OH Jug sale. Many 5k purchases coming down the pipeline this year. Stable looking to buy all horses under 8k average as sales with dip at least 25%. At that pace they can buy 125 head and still spend around that 1.0mln dollar mark. Stable will have 250 horses training next year he will claim to be bigger then Burke. But buy early AM doesn't want to be sole owner of 95 horses at 100% share as they train down all season.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 28, 2020, 02:53:48 PM
no argument, your points are bang on and valid, hopefully everyone gets a winners circle photo
having said that and if the horse had any other  prior success going a training mile and getting paid $5k is not all bad
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on July 28, 2020, 05:20:46 PM
no argument, your points are bang on and valid, hopefully everyone gets a winners circle photo
having said that and if the horse had any other  prior success going a training mile and getting paid $5k is not all bad

How much was shipping + A Mac expenses?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 28, 2020, 05:26:08 PM
A Mac is such a poor driver these boys will show just how bad he is. Investors you have to be totally blind not to see how A Mac is fucking you over, you deserve to go broke.

I invested
Iíve made money this year
But I also wouldnít really care if I didnít


you mad?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on July 28, 2020, 06:50:08 PM
I invested
Iíve made money this year
But I also wouldnít really care if I didnít


you mad?

GTFOH

I know a lie when I read one and that sir is a big fucking lie

Nice try  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 28, 2020, 06:51:21 PM
46 pages of

jeaolusy,

hate,

sobbing

and

Counting other peoples money.

Not to mention Rooting Down Calhoun and

other owners.

Counting Other Peoples Money is one of the Deadly Sins. 

I also see lot of envy, anger and greed here.... that's 4 at least.

Hate on.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 28, 2020, 07:14:00 PM
I invested
Iíve made money this year
But I also wouldnít really care if I didnít


you mad?
No you are by defending this fraud artist.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 28, 2020, 07:34:23 PM
Now 47 pages of truth and if clients had any wonder why Bernie Madoff failed in a recession as a fraud. Clients are getting a clear picture as they text and email the stable CEO real questions on why the horses are so poor and lack talent. AM whining and sobbing of covid lumped all horses back to the track and his horses couldn't compete. Now the whining of a virus that has hit his stable spread in ON, OH, PA, and elsewhere so he had to scratch because of a cough. No body is counting money because simply there is no money being made for clients. No hate ...I've taken my stable lumps but its NONE of AM fault if you watch the hundreds of videos.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 28, 2020, 07:36:01 PM
GTFOH

I know a lie when I read one and that sir is a big fucking lie

Nice try  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

yeah I tell lies to impress dipshits on the internet 😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on July 28, 2020, 07:37:41 PM
No you are by defending this fraud artist.

nah, I said I invested and made money. Thatís not defending anyone

critical thinking and reading comprehension arenít your strong suits are they?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 28, 2020, 07:45:31 PM


critical thinking and reading comprehension arenít your strong suits are they?


 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

I JUST DROPPED MY TACO ngc3 ngc3

CLASSIC
SWANDRE tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on July 28, 2020, 08:11:31 PM
yeah I tell lies to impress dipshits on the internet 😂

U invest money with a known fraud and Iím the dipshit

 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1

3 dancing bananas for your anger
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 28, 2020, 10:45:37 PM
oh oh
 2 starters
2 winners at mohawk tonight
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 28, 2020, 10:52:34 PM
actually i guess technically it was 3 starters but who the hell would count kddo that trotter
anyway just offering a counterpoint
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 28, 2020, 10:53:32 PM
Read between the lines when the wins come at the Hawk. WEG promoted the hell out of the guy and everything went sour so now to save face they have to write races for the guy and hopefully he wins them. WEG and TheStable making a farce out of the biggest Canadian market.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 29, 2020, 01:23:33 AM
Counterpoint one winner a 4yr wins nw2. Cavill Hanover out of money. KDDO a breaker like fellow SK at Meadows a breaker today. Other winner a 3yr old nw2. Stable has a boat load of those underperformers after nearly two months I'm sure the condition is thinning out.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 29, 2020, 10:03:50 AM
true
 but as they say they don't put the time or the details on the cheque
just to put some facts into the argument ( I know you don't really care for these ) but tymal Houdini was out 13 months injured so the fact he is now 4 and winning a nw2 is not quite as you make it out to be
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 29, 2020, 02:27:31 PM
So the horse gets a mulligan congrats for him. I'm one of the few who give a shit about how fast the horses go since most of
these tracks have alter something to pick up a second or two. Times like most have said are for the breeders and stud owners.
Your right only one thing matters on the check were to put the comma.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on July 29, 2020, 03:27:55 PM
horses first - you were part of the stable at some point?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 29, 2020, 06:29:24 PM
I was still am. I have said numerous times it is a very good concept. It allows for some transparency which is great because
you can see the results on the track and not just the words of a trainer. I'm not a fan of trotters training down on the half mile
tracks but they do in many areas and stables. I believe the guy can train horses down and tell the difference of aches and pains.
But I do have problems with many things I have laid out.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on July 30, 2020, 09:26:49 AM


 Even when the horses "make money"- the owners don't see all of it/any of it.

 YES made alot of money. but his fees were enormous, especially with rehab its been so long since he made.

 He "puts them away til next year", then his 3 year olds turn to mush
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 30, 2020, 10:07:27 AM
I like cruising in style
nice trotter
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 30, 2020, 01:58:05 PM
Why is it that not one of his "owners" cares to comment on the stable's winnings
Miss Meringue 2FT.   3/1-0-1 $9800

I don't pay any bills.  I won my piece on a wager on a UFC fight.  I neither know or care what the bills are.

I trust that helps.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 30, 2020, 02:43:26 PM
First, I am more interested in hearing someone who has skin in the game. Second, even if you won your share who is paying the bills? With earnings of $9800 a 1% share would be $98 which I do not think goes very far with AM but even if you are not paying bills try not to spend your share of the winnings all at once
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

You've been here for 1 year and have made 65 posts.  Every Single Fucking One Of Them about Anthony MacDonald.

We get it.

You lost your money on a bad horse.

And you've spent a year trying to make yourself feel better.

Again ... 1 Yeaar ... 65 Posts ... Everyone about Anthony....

And please... don't worry about my money.

Coveting other people's money is a deadly sin.

Please make the next 65 posts more interesting.

And stop sobbing over your loss.

Jesus Fucking Tap Dancing Christ

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on July 30, 2020, 02:54:09 PM
Golf - I know you said your friends are looking to get out at 20% or so - i went on their site - I don't see any deep discounted horses for sale?
do you know the names of these horses that are in this "category" ?


 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 30, 2020, 03:05:59 PM
I believe one of the horses is Royhill. All I know is what they tell me as I dod not know how the buy sell works. Is it easy to get on the site to see what shares are selling for or do you have to be an owner?

stop paying on the horse

and take him to court

,,cus he aint never getting out of horse

until,anthony decides to sell

am I correct owners have to sign papers

in which a mac is in total charge of evry racing or selling decision
on horses?



take the loss give up the 20 percent it will be less costly
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on July 30, 2020, 03:10:48 PM
I believe one of the horses is Royhill. All I know is what they tell me as I dod not know how the buy sell works. Is it easy to get on the site to see what shares are selling for or do you have to be an owner?
Come on now.

1 year.... 70 posts ... same guy ... same topic ... and you still have no idea wtf is going on?

You care... that's fine.  But 1 year of trying and failing you are ragging on me, a 1/2 of 1 share guy?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on July 30, 2020, 07:01:00 PM

determining a horses value  in july of a 2 yr old season is a stretch
lots of very expensive yearlings in the hands of top barns also doing little
i will agree those barns tend to move them along quickly once they determine they are no good
if it was easy all of you  would be in making money  buying only the winners at cheap prices
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 30, 2020, 07:09:52 PM
Between now and September investors will be moving away from TheStable faster than the shit will run out of a kid who mistakenly ate a box of Ex Lax. As for Calhoun owning a piece of anything it's all BS I have asked about someone who won a bet and got his piece and their answer is yeah right.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 30, 2020, 07:29:39 PM
Golfhbm first feel free to post 1,000 times on the subject at hand it's a horse forum. Secondly no need to waste your breath or key typing on certain individuals. Here is one of the horses I own Rooney Blue Chip . Sold for 27,000 at Harrisburg. Probably the worse going trotter I've ever seen. Seriously and I have owned and watched many. 1 start at 2 at the Big M in a sires and broke. Horse was turned out needed to grow. Has come back at 3 and raced 5 times last two recent starts shipped off to Hawthorne breaking twice. In perspective the horse cost 27k, has been charged 21 training bills at minimum 2,575.00 during training and for a few months just turnout charges. There along is 52,500 and with the purchase your at 77,500. Add in all the other charges staking, vet, transportation, etc...your well over 85k. The horse has race 6 lifetime starts earning 385.00 and the trainer believes something is still there? Yes the when racing bill now over 3k a month racing for a 5k maiden purse. How this horse didn't make the list to sell a couple weeks back is beyond me. May not have brought much but you ease the entertainment pain. Now if the horse races well and or wins in a start or two it doesn't do much for his current value. At some tracks you have taken him out of a maiden unless they write a lifetime earning with the maiden. I have another one Imalovelylady in tonight she has made two breaks in two sire races so definitely a disappointment because I owned the first foal of that mare and she could sure trot during her freshmen season. This one can as well. Yes, a client needs to fill out a form and selling a race horse with owned shares surely can be dumped for someone else to purchase. However it is to AM to have final say in selling a stable race horse. It may be possible if 90% of the owners agree a horse can be sold but not quit sure on that. I have stated again I like some things about the stable and clearly have stated facts on what was not so good about the stable. Nobody is going to remember the stable.ca as being a wonderful place to own a horse because the owner or CEO decided it is best to have 100, 110, 120, 140, or 150 head. One can invest in many ways with just as much capital he dispenses currently with a better yearling approach then just looking at black type in a book.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: marsh99 on July 30, 2020, 07:33:58 PM
Dude just won a $47,000 purse at Scioto. Maybe he read all your comments and used it as motivation :)
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: dinkadoo on July 30, 2020, 07:41:31 PM
Dude just won a $47,000 purse at Scioto. Maybe he read all your comments and used it as motivation :)
TheStable got Plopped and into the winners circle

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 30, 2020, 07:44:18 PM
Brown Jug biggest part of this industry only promotes the top drivers, trainers, and horses. If there ever was a segment where are they now for horses of both industries the show would never end. When AM says or doesn't agree that the yearling business is for the rich then he is just being delusional. It's exactly what it is billed for...buying unproven horses for the most part will cost a heck of a lot more then the purchase price when it's all said and done. It's a boom or bust theory. The money is in it to hit the homerun or hinge on the hopes of having a Hambo starter. Or a Pace or Pepsi Cup. IF this is about entertainment ONLY why go the route of 100 or so chances to have something? Law of averages? If your getting 800 clients into the business why not start buying high priced claimers that race weekly. People get to the track and watch a proven commodity. Is it easy no but still easier then the crapshoot. Build on that and build on clients, have a check ready to go for 100k on a proven qualifer first out. Heck have 5 or 6 of those checks out ready to go with proven horses. You can pay 200-250k after a quality wins in sire races someone is always willing to sell good horses. Advice I still haven't taken. Never bad taking the silver not knowing if the gold is in reach. But if it's to have a training bill he is in it for the wrong reason. I posed the have 50 head paying 1.0mln at the sale or 25 paying the 1.0mln. You can bet on which option he choose to defend.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 30, 2020, 08:12:27 PM
Congrats to winners of my jazz. I have no problem rooting for horses in anyone's barn. The track is sloppy so trip will be everything today. I hope he wins the 13th as well lol
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on July 30, 2020, 08:13:24 PM
SORRY to disappoint you but I have NEVER and will NEVER have a horse with AM!  The reason I post is that know people who have had horses with him and have been taken, so if I can do anything to inform or stop his scam I will continue.
I will admit that you show your class by the language that you use and assumptions you make. You along with the other lackies that defend AM and his scam deserve what you get but also never deal in facts or answer direct questions but prefer to deflect. If you do not like my posts its simple...do not read them but I am not going anywhere

Thanks for the info

AM and his peeps asked me to invest I considered it before reading this thread

I took that money and invested in PENN and LL and got filthy rich, I also told ploppers to do the same

Much more entertaining seeing my money make 10 and 7 times my original investment in 3 months

U all can put that in ur pipes and smoke it 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 30, 2020, 08:18:41 PM
Take race 6 trip and luck 9 entered before the mile ended 5 had made a break. Hate those races for owners.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 30, 2020, 08:21:04 PM
Horses First nice to hear some one with a candid opinion that actually has skin in TheStable I wish you all the luck in the world.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 30, 2020, 09:15:23 PM
Iceman been around this game as a owner for 11 years. Things you learn...ride your good ones and get rid of the ones that can't earn a check. Never ever get in way over your ski's. No matter how much your day job may earn a bad year or two in a row can set back any individual. If you ever have a good never be afraid to cash in or sell half or more. If you want to own to race then race or if you want to breed just pick a lane and stick with one. I can say 100% I have had some decent filly trotters over the years and since have a good day job put back 100% plus back into the business. For better or worse you learn over time and my time has past. I had fun for a number of years I was crushed last year with 2 of my best broadmares and a nice Sportswriter baby die within a couple months. It is definitely a peaks and valleys industry with what seems longer stretches of valleys. But thanks Iceman.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 30, 2020, 10:04:58 PM
One thing I picked up on real quick was with Bill Wellwood everything was for sale. Don't ever think you have this figured out because the minute you do it will flip on you real quick. We had a number of nice horses and they got sold. Some went on and others didn't and in the end we did good, glass half full. Another one of Bill's thoughts was despite how good you think a young horse may be stop dreaming and let the horse show you and even then stop thinking.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on July 30, 2020, 10:54:33 PM
Pretty much true on all accounts. The thing about selling some of the good ones it keeps you in the game long playing with others money.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 30, 2020, 10:57:44 PM
And isn't that what it is all about, keeping your stick on the ice.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 30, 2020, 10:58:44 PM
One one my personal friends

Just got out of a horse. Trotter owned twenty five percent

All bills were up to date



Guess how much Anthony Mac. Sent him

Are u guys ready

145 bucks 

And Iím not lying.

What a scum fvkin piece of shit

Robbing from owners

This is what happens when u give total control to the trainer

145 dollars

I told him
Sue the Cock sucker

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 30, 2020, 11:04:36 PM
If so more of these stories are going to come out in the next couple of months.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on July 30, 2020, 11:15:16 PM
If so more of these stories are going to come out in the next couple of months.


Ice


All bullshit and playing around aside

This poor kid got

145.  Dollars. Back

On an Ohio bred trotter that was pretty good as a two yr old

I just donít wanna post the horses name

HORSES FIRST.


knows horse Iím taking about
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on July 30, 2020, 11:29:25 PM
LUC when people start talking about TheStable right away I think of when NASA sends a spaceship up you get those close up views and the spaceship looks all nice and and then when it lifts off the outer skin peels off and pieces fall to the platform. This will catch up with A Mac and it won't be pretty. Hell for over a year I have talked about Mark Steacy's fractional ownership group and have talked with investors and they are happy. Sure it is a little more to be involved but total transparency and the guy can train.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 02, 2020, 08:24:53 AM
In today's HRU Anthony MacDonald supposedly wrote into the feedback column and you can tell Kelly Spencer wrote it but what is interesting is what the column was about the changing of the industry because of Covid. What I read into it is a declaration of the end is coming for TheStable. I have never understood the media and their love affair with TheStable when there are other fractional ownership groups that are doing quite well for their investors. When you have to constantly promote seeking attention as TheStable does and tell the public your the best then prospective investors should run. We here on Plop are not the only ones that are talking and I here there are some disgruntled groups within TheStable that are ready to blow the lid off of it and maybe this column in HRU is an attempt of damage control before some of their investors come out and speak about what is going on.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: harnesstimes on August 02, 2020, 12:44:13 PM
Thoughts on the changing sports landscape

After seeing the news from Miami this week regarding Major League Baseball and COVID-19 positives, I think itís fair to be concerned about the overall state of mainstream sports moving forward in 2020. Yes, the NBA has a bubble, but with so much in-game contact and even more in the NFL, I think itís safe to say sports isnít getting back to ďnormalĒ anytime soon.

For the first time in my life, horse racing isnít just an afterthought in society and the sports world in general. The job done by many major race tracks, and Woodbine, in particular with its newly minted TSN partnership and the timely unveiling of their DARKHORSE app, has moved horse racing further ahead than anyone could have projected. Yes, for many jurisdictions with casino partners 2020 has had some new and problematic challenges. Diminished capacity on gaming floors, COVID fears, and overall financial hardship have definitely reduced revenue at these venues. As our partners continue to navigate these uncharted waters, we need to do some navigating of our own.

Horse racing is very fortunate to be operating at all. I personally applaud the efforts of our industry stake holders in getting us back on the job when so many of our neighbors are still unemployed. That isnít to say things are great and we donít have major hurtles approaching, because we do. COVID-19 has put most everyone in a much different financial situation than they are used to, and the fallout from that is undoubtedly going to be felt first and foremost by our smaller breeders this coming sales season.

We have to face the realistic notion that there is simply less money available in 2020 to buy yearlings. I believe this an opportunity for trainers to show some entrepreneurship and partner with breeders that may be actively looking for a ďPlan NĒ leading up to, and after the conclusion of the fall sales. Thestable.ca has done this since we opened our doors and some of our best horses have come from these partnership programs. We have been approached by many breeders already this season, and Iím sure there will be no shortage of interested parties soon enough to work with you. This is incredibly important because if we start to lose breeders, we risk shrinking a viable entry point for new people coming into the horse racing industry. If smaller breeding operations shutter, we will have fewer horses bred, eventually leading to yearlings shortages in the future that will inevitability drive up prices making it impossible to find value in the yearling market at all. Further to that, fewer horses will ultimately result in smaller fields and the inevitable downward spiral that we must fight to avoid. By not working together this fall we will actually be hurting ourselves and our industry in the long run. The obvious question is: Where will the extra funds come from to form and foster these partnerships? Is there any way to create more cash flow to help our industry moving forward?

Iíve spoken in multiple venues on two continents about the power of affordable ownership, and the draw it has on everyday people. This year because of COVID-19 shuttering society as a whole, we have more eyeballs on our sport than we had since the start of the internet. Do you think any of these people watching have ever seen a sport they can become interested in, and afford to be an active participant? The potential for that added value is immense for horse racing, and Thestable.ca has proven that this transition from fan to owner is very real and possible. This article isnít about what we have done at our barn, as much as what other trainers can do in theirs. It isnít the name, slogan, or the person selling the idea. Itís the message of affordable ownership and the entertainment that goes with that. I always claimed that the affordability of the entertainment dollar for dollar found in horse racing is unmatched in society, now itís simply unrivaled!

I believe the time is upon us to properly educate our horsemen on how they can connect with everyday people to grow their own barns and brands. More now than ever, we need to introduce ourselves to society in new and direct ways to show them what we actually offer. We have a competitive and exciting sport full of athleticism, speed, great stories, and hard work. There is nothing like seeing and hearing the horses thundering down the stretch to cross the finish line ó all in a time when there isnít much of anything available for people to get excited about.

For the negative people ready to only talk about the struggles we have faced in the past with marketing, gaming, or bad apples in our sport, I would say to them that every sport has its own unique issues, and we are no different. Bringing new people into the sport of horse racing makes it stronger and helps us shine a light on all the poorly lit corners of our industry. This is more than just new paint on an old piece of wood. This is rebuilding and rebranding a great product that more people than ever would be interested to participate in. Saying the interest isnít there is simply incorrect. I think if anything Iíve proven that to be untrue.

With the sports entertainment field significantly thinned out right now, we are doing a great job seizing the day, but I do think itís time we strive for more.

People can say horse racing is dead, but I believe from this generational disaster we could find the fresh air we have so desperately been in search of for decades. Our future is literally right in front of us, we need to continue to push forward, be aware and stay ahead of the hurtles to come. Strengthen our core, protect our breeders, and we will see growth that most of us never thought possible.
 With respect,

óAnthony MacDonald / TheStable.ca
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Mazola on August 02, 2020, 12:48:57 PM
It looks like he has a plan. Who else does?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on August 02, 2020, 12:50:16 PM
If you think he is trying to help out anyone else in the industry you are crazy. One of the best marketing schemes ever. @ we only care about this industry not ourselves
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on August 02, 2020, 12:52:07 PM
Great plan for the industry. Go to breeding farms tell them you will run up the yearling price for them in exchange for 1/2 ownership then sell pieces to uneducated people for inflated price. Great for all involved except the new owners
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brutus Buckeye on August 02, 2020, 12:53:39 PM
GOOD LUCK MAC AT THE FAIR IN OHIO TOMORROW
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Mazola on August 02, 2020, 12:57:13 PM
Sitting around waiting for casino or govt handouts isn't going to work anymore.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 02, 2020, 01:23:03 PM
Am

Is  ripping off lots of good owners

He ripped off my pal

On trotter
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 02, 2020, 01:44:55 PM
Hope he stashed some of the cash he scamed
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 02, 2020, 02:01:11 PM
Trust me he has stashed plenty of what he skimmed off the top because that was built into it in the beginning.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: RWB on August 02, 2020, 02:11:40 PM
Anthony.......... everything out of your mouth is bullshit

You talk about entertainment value, yet horse racing is a business and livelihood for yourself. You did not start this operation to build the sport, it was to protect your future in the game and put food on the table for YOUR family. You WERE NOT making a great living in the industry with your driving and training ability. Now you are doing VERY WELL!!

Bring transparency..... ..how much have you personally made since the start of this scheme ......and how much have your owners lost........Pleas e stop with your fairy tale version of thestable.ca..... .just call it what it is......GETANTHON YRICH.ca........a nd good for you for finding enough idiots to invest in your get rich scheme

Please list all the owners that have made a profit since this started........Th anks!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 02, 2020, 02:18:14 PM
Who gets the sell off proceeds, horses, equipment when they pull the plug? Who owns the rigs? Are the owners billed for shipping? Do the shipping proceeds go to the stable ca or some other venture owned by AM?  Like the Bonnie and Clyde scheme yrs ago.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 02, 2020, 04:06:05 PM
Breeders know they are going to take a 25-30% this year. They have been in this spot before for a number of bad years. However the last few have been monster years and during the lean years they did what you should pare down. They are more worried that the overseas or borders from Canada will remain closed. The good horses always sell good and from what I've noticed the sires haven't changed all that much. Sure some GC races have been cut but why is that AM issue? He isn't signing the slips on the medium or high priced yearlings other then a couple here or there. He will still get his arsenal of cheap horses. The industry has survived the stable.ca ideas and for the most part the big breeders laugh him up when brought up in conservation. As someone stated and as AM has noted his base maybe declining and he is putting a better path forward with clients plans for yearlings. My bet he has to dumped 50-60 sooner rather then later his clients are tied up. 2020 is what it is we have all seen loses across the board. No reason horse racing shouldn't as well.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 02, 2020, 08:26:21 PM
Anthony was all for the small timers not having to be licensed which could be his big problem. Can you imagine should he take on a few investors with a clean front man and the balance never could hold a licence. He tries to do them out of their money and he ends up in a ditch with one to the back of the head. For one reason or the other this is fast tracking it's way to an ending to be way or the other.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on August 03, 2020, 01:01:29 PM
Lost $2500. Training bills to high. Buyers on ďmarketĒ want to give you pennies for your asset. Not recommending

Signed,
Disgruntled client across the pond
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 03, 2020, 03:29:23 PM
How much has he scammed? How many owners did he round up? Will any be pissed off enough to go to the media? Is there any way this goes away nicely or is it sure to be a shit show? AM at the meadows lately got some crap with Twaddle. Hope he gets paid.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Barnet Garnsdale on August 03, 2020, 06:52:55 PM
GOOD LUCK MAC AT THE FAIR IN OHIO TOMORROW

WAS IT LUCK OR JUST PLAIN SKILL?

BRUTUS MUST BE A GOOD LUCK CHARM

 5 WINNERS
    1 LOSER

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 03, 2020, 08:28:36 PM
Royhill, great way to gut a 2 yr old, take the heart out of one. Stupid people.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brkn Headpole on August 03, 2020, 08:50:13 PM
Not to toot our horns but Iceman and I were warning novice investors about his lack of trustworthiness from the beginning. The ORC swept an investigation under the rug re: fraud concerning him. I believe they changed their website to "entertainment purposes" rather than r.o.i. based n the fact it was run as a business corporation which meant he had to provide fiscal reports.

Iceman n I were ridiculed and told to "let it play out". Well the chickens are coming home to roost. The bill padding (turnouts), owing sales cos, driving up prices on yearlings to fleece unsuspecting novice owners (seriously u could find different prices on the website for the same horse after the yearling sales), familial conflict of interest buying a 4k claimer for 22k. How much has he made off commissions on private deals? Stan Can bent over backwards when he hadn't paid thousands in eligibilty fees.

Tick tock the end is near for the snake oil salesman.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on August 03, 2020, 09:23:20 PM
Big day in Ohio, it this guy sets up shop he's easily top three drivers with Marrymen and Page
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 03, 2020, 09:42:03 PM
Exactly right if the stable.ca wants to have owners but owners only part of the game is paying Bill's not having any injection on pitching a recommendation, suggesting a race, a driver change, while the CEO touts a great weekend or horses look like a million bucks...post the stable.ca RACING STATS! Public would like to see what their $$$ are buying them into. Completely agree Brkn H. AM touting a big haircut for breeders well no shit it happens they weren't giving refunds back to buyers who overpaid the last few years...wtf. he isn't taken serious by the US industry. Great day at the fair he was have a small sized trotter break on Thursday, go in a fair on Monday to wear hopples to race in a sire on Friday. 8 days apart. While competing again the following week. Owners get no say in the matter to skip a leg, qualify and race in the last. Royhill what has gone wrong there nw1 this was there 10k stake horse to the 100k race early July in OH. Been a dud and drive sucked today but he stopped cold...allergies, mucus, pimples and redness? Am has one worry making the clients money and it's been a 2 yr shit show minus a few out of 135 or so.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: dinkadoo on August 04, 2020, 09:52:06 AM
As in perfect AM style his last video tells you how wonderful he was at Bowling Green, how well they did at The Meadows and Mohawk and blamed drivers for horses that did not do so well but as I fully expected NO mention of Royhill.
what the fuck was that race ? I flipped on TVG  at 6:12, and there was the first going behind the gate for Northfields first race (605p post time)...

I had a program -- #7, Roy Hill --- Not bad looking on paper..... This horse was so green like he never trained with anyone... running them over at the 3/8ths Hunter Myers tips 3 wide at the half, goes nowhere and then pulls up.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on August 04, 2020, 10:33:33 AM
hay  AM  and his dopey investers

i gots one word fer use

ROYHILL    ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Scoped sick...full of mucus...and threw a shoe at the half.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: 3widetooearly on August 04, 2020, 11:34:41 AM
Not a bad concept but holds on to horses waaaaay to long. If they are not going to do get rid of them.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: AsPromised on August 04, 2020, 02:22:54 PM
Not one word of the Royhill in his latest vid.  AM comes across as pure scum.

Not many words in his vocabulary.

Not sure what wrong....get him scoped....change shoes....REPEAT

Cleans up on the garbage at BORING GREEN and he is king of the world.

Does look like in his videos he is staying at some fairly decent hotels.  Guessing the investors pick up the tab on that and the hotel fridge items consumed.


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 04, 2020, 06:26:19 PM
re roy hill
from my unbiased vantage point i would fault the driver 100%
that drive was horrific
I have seen chuckwagon races  driven better
lets hold off until another race for him
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 04, 2020, 06:40:55 PM
The ass has no head on his shoulders and couldn't win a one horse race. But read the fine print AM drives if you can call it that and the investors have no say. Investors enjoy losing your hard earned cash with this scam artist.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on August 04, 2020, 07:39:04 PM
As in perfect AM style his last video tells you how wonderful he was at Bowling Green, how well they did at The Meadows and Mohawk and blamed drivers for horses that did not do so well but as I fully expected NO mention of Royhill.

he mentioned Royhill in a Facebook video yesterday, I overheard someone watching the video and heard the horse mentioned, it wasnít even as though I was seeking out the information and I still heard it. pay attention youíre making yourself silly.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 04, 2020, 07:43:43 PM
he mentioned Royhill in a Facebook video yesterday, I overheard someone watching the video and heard the horse mentioned, it wasnít even as though I was seeking out the information and I still heard it. pay attention youíre making yourself silly.
Swandre you keep standing up for this scam artist and you'll keep ending up with egg all over your face. Pretty soon we're going to have to call you omelette.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 04, 2020, 09:31:38 PM
Maybe we got fooled and Swandre is really A Mac because he evades questions just like A Mac and he talks shit.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on August 04, 2020, 10:14:31 PM
You got fooled Iceman? Knew it was AMac all along   Just read his post only defends AMac and ThePonzi.ca
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 04, 2020, 10:21:27 PM
KDDO i THINK CAN DO IT 6 TO WIN AND 6 8 BOX
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 04, 2020, 10:25:04 PM
Another 2nd place finish,,,,stable is hot
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on August 04, 2020, 10:28:15 PM
On top by many in 56.2 gets beat in 57. That is how you teach one to race
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 04, 2020, 10:33:25 PM
horse is a rat,,,,,all cant be good
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on August 04, 2020, 10:35:40 PM
You got fooled Iceman? Knew it was AMac all along   Just read his post only defends AMac and ThePonzi.ca


LOL


nah


I just correct you dummies when you post something inaccurate. I donít really care how yíall feel 😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on August 04, 2020, 10:46:32 PM
bruh, I ainít about to post personal information to you clownshoes.

all I know is when I need an update I come in here because you guys follow it so closely 😆
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 04, 2020, 10:58:56 PM
i dont care if hunter myers is a good or bad driver, in the specific race  being discussed he gave roy hill a rodeo ride

as for kddo, that is likely the only way to drive that squirrel
having said that i think they still pay for second
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 04, 2020, 11:04:30 PM
stable is hot...at the fairs maybe. Swandre  thinks he corrects but when asked real questions about the stable...crickets . Let
me know Swandre when you want to throw down real facts. But you usually head into witness protection.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 05, 2020, 09:40:15 PM
No one is asking for personal information as we really do not care. All I want is for you to answer questions and defend your position. On second thought I know why you use the name Swandre since both you and the horse are lame
golfhbm Swandre has nothing in the game that's what I think.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 07, 2020, 08:07:49 AM
Did you know Anthony's last trip to Scioto he and his wife Amy travelled by private plane. Just another BS expense that will be added to investors bills. These investors must be brain dead to keep paying these inflated monthly bills and get nothing in return.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: dinkadoo on August 07, 2020, 08:26:31 AM
i dont care if hunter myers is a good or bad driver, in the specific race  being discussed he gave roy hill a rodeo ride

as for kddo, that is likely the only way to drive that squirrel
having said that i think they still pay for second
that was nut from the 3/8ths pole  to the half --- alot happened in an eighth of a mile.

Hadn't seen the horse race before -- to know if it's crazy or what.
e
Think next start --- put on the front end as best possible so he doesn't run someone over.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on August 08, 2020, 07:21:20 PM
Did you know Anthony's last trip to Scioto he and his wife Amy travelled by private plane. Just another BS expense that will be added to investors bills. These investors must be brain dead to keep paying these inflated monthly bills and get nothing in return.


there was no air travel
there was no private plane
there was no Amy



your sources really let you down on that one.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 08, 2020, 08:58:16 PM
really he has sources???
i thought most of it was just made up 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on August 08, 2020, 11:15:10 PM
Like always, comments but refuse to answer questions. Did you know they name streets after you....they are called one way

Iím not here to field questions, Iíve just been calling out BS posts like that one. itís not like I was rude to the gentlemen, just letting him know he was greatly misinformed.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 08, 2020, 11:38:31 PM
The correct info is that Anthony has a hotel room close to Northfield and Amy was the only one that flew in and that has been confirmed from inside.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 09, 2020, 08:39:08 AM
Private
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on August 09, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on August 09, 2020, 05:54:28 PM
Private

Plus food and drinks
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 09, 2020, 06:53:26 PM
All of this will come out sooner than later. Seems there was one trainer of TheStable looking to get out on their own and was recruiting owners but now it's two.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 09, 2020, 08:04:35 PM
Don't worry Swandre must now all? Just doesn't like answering others questions but far be it from him to inject. As far as the stable call it what it is a week and a half of horses racing better even if some of that racing is on the fair circuit because the nw 1 or 2 go to fast at Northfield.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on August 09, 2020, 08:22:36 PM
Don't worry Swandre must now all? Just doesn't like answering others questions but far be it from him to inject. As far as the stable call it what it is a week and a half of horses racing better even if some of that racing is on the fair circuit because the nw 1 or 2 go to fast at Northfield.

I would say thats a stretch - he put training miles at the far into them - then on Friday - one ran second is the sires stakes in track record and they won another division with another filly and the other ones are in the buckeye stakes next week. While I get that you, Iceman and Golf are anti-stable, anti-macdonald or anti-concept,  these parts seem to be missing in your posts?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 09, 2020, 08:55:19 PM
I'm not anti anything just pointing out the fraud this is. You buy shares, pay bills and expenses and if you sell your shares you get pennies on the dollar. Now how stupid does one need to be that cannot see it for what it is. I'm done with this thread as the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on August 09, 2020, 09:01:37 PM
well dont abandon this thread until you let us know which trainers are procuring clients and going out on their own - inquiring minds want to know

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 09, 2020, 11:57:34 PM
The real doc you must have missed the many times that I like the concept but has some flaws. Especially pointed toward owners that want out or not having a say when a horse should be sold speaking with other owners.

I didn't fail to recognize the three lumped them in with the other 55 or 60 two year olds. Just because three did well and let's not get into a horse second 5 lengths off of a track record race. Big deal the track like many tracks suspect to times. Hoosier being one last two years. Times mean nothing track to track.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: canadian on August 10, 2020, 02:25:11 AM
I'm not anti anything just pointing out the fraud this is. You buy shares, pay bills and expenses and if you sell your shares you get pennies on the dollar. Now how stupid does one need to be that cannot see it for what it is. I'm done with this thread as the saying goes you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

You dime store loser. How is this thread gone on this long?  People buy in for $500 or whatever and pay what? $40 a month? Who the fuck cares? That isn't big money to lose. If it is people shouldn't buy in. I think it would be fun to buy one or 2 shares on a horse. I might do it. I don't give a fuck if I lose such little amount of money. It's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy less then your average yearling buyer.

Some of the yearlings are priced rather silly. They do a little bit too much dumpster diving at the yearling sales. But still. To own just a tiny piece of a horse, get the feel of it and have the thrill of watching it race, I think that's great for a lot of people.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 10, 2020, 10:27:15 AM
They have over 120 horses just 800 clients. You think most are buying in at 1 or 2 shares? That they are losing 40 or 50 a month? Most are losing more then that wagering on their horses. It's not the public betting down those stable horses. But yes you have a point in saying it's great to buy 1 or 2 shares to get into the business on the bottom floor. BUT to have 120 of underperforming horses it takes what a year or two for most to have had a taste and say was it worth it, what did I get out of it, I lose my ass, I bought the high sold the low, how can a horse have so many excuses to race poorly so much, and it was fun while it lasted. Canadian a question if this is to bring owners in for entertainment why buy yearlings that take 10 months to develop before they race, are a unknown, can develop many ailments training down, have extra costs like stake payments, shipping around, entry fees, and shipped off to other trainers. Why not buy claiming horses race weekly and expand into buying ready made horses either just after a 2yr old qualifies or when they are racing? The unknown helps one person and one person only. Iceman has plenty of points in his favor.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: AsPromised on August 10, 2020, 10:37:14 AM
Century has some racing club out west, buy into that and get a jolly or two.

With this sham stable.ca........ Anthony has guaranteed himself a very successful and secure life for him and his family.  Are the investors footing the bill for his root canal later in the week in Ohio? 11.mq 11.mq



They have over 120 horses just 800 clients. You think most are buying in at 1 or 2 shares? That they are losing 40 or 50 a month? Most are losing more then that wagering on their horses. It's not the public betting down those stable horses. But yes you have a point in saying it's great to buy 1 or 2 shares to get into the business on the bottom floor. BUT to have 120 of underperforming horses it takes what a year or two for most to have had a taste and say was it worth it, what did I get out of it, I lose my ass, I bought the high sold the low, how can a horse have so many excuses to race poorly so much, and it was fun while it lasted. Canadian a question if this is to bring owners in for entertainment why buy yearlings that take 10 months to develop before they race, are a unknown, can develop many ailments training down, have extra costs like stake payments, shipping around, entry fees, and shipped off to other trainers. Why not buy claiming horses race weekly and expand into buying ready made horses either just after a 2yr old qualifies or when they are racing? The unknown helps one person and one person only. Iceman has plenty of points in his favor.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on August 10, 2020, 11:11:01 AM
They have over 120 horses just 800 clients. You think most are buying in at 1 or 2 shares? That they are losing 40 or 50 a month? Most are losing more then that wagering on their horses. It's not the public betting down those stable horses. But yes you have a point in saying it's great to buy 1 or 2 shares to get into the business on the bottom floor. BUT to have 120 of underperforming horses it takes what a year or two for most to have had a taste and say was it worth it, what did I get out of it, I lose my ass, I bought the high sold the low, how can a horse have so many excuses to race poorly so much, and it was fun while it lasted. Canadian a question if this is to bring owners in for entertainment why buy yearlings that take 10 months to develop before they race, are a unknown, can develop many ailments training down, have extra costs like stake payments, shipping around, entry fees, and shipped off to other trainers. Why not buy claiming horses race weekly and expand into buying ready made horses either just after a 2yr old qualifies or when they are racing? The unknown helps one person and one person only. Iceman has plenty of points in his favor.

don't use my idea.  website market website called "The claiming game"  Dabbling only in claimers.  a gofund me is being setup for initial funding.  looking for couple 5k-6k claimers.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 10, 2020, 12:54:39 PM
Canadian one other point I would like to make it's only human nature for clients at some point to expect a more positive outcome? To have some monthly bills actually paid by the horses winning purses...yes a handful do 6 or 7% at best. If Universal Studios put out flop after flop eventually they will run into issues that people are not entertained anymore. If the Cincinnati Reds or KC Royals can't manage to put a major league team on the field fans aren't going to show for 81 underwhelming home games. Same as any other sport or entertainment value. Entertainment is all over the place whether the platform one chooses. I can hear by the stable videos clients are wanting more out of their horses. Which is human nature. At some point cutting the fat and buying better then what they have been "value" over the last two seasons. It hasn't worked. I just wonder with the horses he ate that how many of the just over 800 are more involved then a couple years ago? He's already putting forward for upcoming sales "what can you afford approach" so he doesn't hang himself. Remember for the most part AM picks out the horses so owners have very little say. I'm sure some clients if the money is already there get a voice.The one major fault in the stable with the transparency approach buyers can wait for 4-7 months watching horses train down. Of course cost builds in but pay now or pay later. The risk ALL falls on the stable with injuries or poor track performance.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Dingus on August 10, 2020, 02:05:34 PM
Thereís nothing like buying a yearling, and paying the monthly training, and then the staking fees, while being told your baby is training down and is looking good.
Then comes the reality.
 angbk 9z.lg
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 10, 2020, 03:09:31 PM
Right...they all look like a million bucks until May 20th.  No matter the trainer or stable.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 10, 2020, 03:56:59 PM
Trainers are worse than carnis
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cornishcommish on August 10, 2020, 04:43:37 PM
Right...they all look like a million bucks until May 20th.  No matter the trainer or stable.
20 years ago  I had a very good friend, who owned horses....most all were racing when he bought or claimed then. Then came the trainer....pushin g for him to buy some colts, to train over the winter in Florida. He bought the line, and invested $ 40,000.     November till  April...." boy they are training down very good .. We will qualify them when we get up North. Up North , the trainer then pulls out a sheet of,  some early  and late closers.   He now felt that they were not going to be competitive with Sire Stake horses...but he had found some series that ran against the Sire Stakes...and he felt  the colts  would do good in these races.

  My friend was asked by  his trainer ( who was also the driver) to put up $ 5000 to name these colts  to the series. He asked the trainer.." Would there be any more fees"...."yes..probably a small starting fee"  My friend made the trainer an offer..."I'll put up up
$ 4500  .......you put up $ 500....as you will be able to make more  money with your 10%"

You know the trainer's answer..........."That's not the way it works "

My friend did not stake the colts in the closers.....they did not even cover their bills..could not win in NW 2....and in the Fall , my friend entered ALL 8 of his horses in the sale. Trainer was pissed, ..told him the colts  were just getting good, and would be much better 3 year olds. ......( and would have helped pay his winter in Florida)

  He left the business for good
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 10, 2020, 05:54:28 PM
There is a good moral to that story about taking a initial beating but smart enough not to be a glutton for punishment. Owners of the stable need more say on how to cut ties with a horse vs AM only decision, dump shares on the site, or dumb share to AM. Especially dumping shares to AM because that said horse could end up on a auction site or live sale shortly down the road. Newbie clients will learn that lesson quickly as they are not educated to know for themselves.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on August 10, 2020, 07:43:15 PM
If your buying 1% of a yearling you probably donít care if it makes you a profit.
Itís called entertainment cost. I know a guy that owns horses and buys a small % of a stable horse drives 3 hours each way to watch it race and is ecstatic it got a check in a race. Now how do you put a price on that?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on August 10, 2020, 07:57:33 PM
But remember there are owners that like it in the ASS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on August 10, 2020, 07:59:15 PM
But remember there are owners that like it in the ASS
You are an expert on that tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 10, 2020, 08:23:44 PM
Good for him Cigar I imagine there are more like him. Then there are more that aren't. Doesn't sound like the stable owner wants a small stable. Going out splurging on 70 yearlings a year will find someone in deep waters and the owner mentioned many times the riptide taking him into those deep waters. We know why the stable was built for entertainment reasons then keep it for entertainment reasons? People in the industry know getting to big only leads down a one way road. Burke and his group spend but if you develop a syndicated sire it always buys you 4 or 5 years.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on August 10, 2020, 10:18:52 PM
The stable has a good entertainment concept for people that just want a small piece of a horse. Buying all babies is never a profitable venture anyways, sometimes you win and mostly you lose $$$$$.
best strategy I ever heard was
1 yearling
1 overnight/condition horse
1 claimer
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on August 10, 2020, 10:19:10 PM
well dont abandon this thread until you let us know which trainers are procuring clients and going out on their own - inquiring minds want to know
Mac and Mario
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2020, 02:52:48 PM
Owners of the stable need more say on how to cut ties with a horse vs AM only decision, dump shares on the site,...
Is this a joke?

A friend and I own 1% of a 2FT that cost $830.  Ave mo bills are $35-$45.

You think Stable Owners should  have a right to dump our share?

To who?

At what price?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

That's not how it works. 
 
What if the horse moves forward bigly and doubles in value?

Should MacDonald then be able to buy our share at a discounted price?

What you own, you own.  And its worth exactly what someone will pay you for it when you want to sell it. 

Miss Meringue 4 / 2  0  1  $12349







Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 11, 2020, 05:02:32 PM
On 3 year olds that can't earn a check in a nw 1 or 2. Yes time to move on owners need more say. Don't forget your 2yr old is still 100k plus under water for the owners who did win half of 1 share. I forgot all that experience u have racing under a stable you didn't own. Still no proof you owned a horse in your own name not under made up partnerships. It's easy post one horse you owned? Afraid?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 11, 2020, 08:03:57 PM
On 3 year olds that can't earn a check in a nw 1 or 2. Yes time to move on owners need more say. Don't forget your 2yr old is still 100k plus under water for the owners who did win half of 1 share. I forgot all that experience u have racing under a stable you didn't own. Still no proof you owned a horse in your own name not under made up partnerships. It's easy post one horse you owned? Afraid?
Bafia,
I posted several in the thread where your ass was used to mop the floor.

You know, the one you begged to get wiped clean of your lies.. 

I told our guy to go ahead and do it. 

That one.

Yeah, me scared. 

ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

You may now go back to incessant sobbing about your losses and getting made a fool by Anthony.



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 11, 2020, 08:30:29 PM
Then name some bigshot your to afraid to be called out. Never asked to remove anything another lie by u. Your just a loud mouth with never having major skin in the game. Hmm Harness AM did fine last year. Spend that money ok I traded those shares back for my mare and I bought shares of Imalovlylady since I owned the first foal of that mare. There I one dud in Rooney. Your missing the point of sobbing but your not that intelligent to begin with so I don't hold it over you.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 11, 2020, 08:53:04 PM
Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in. Calhoun has no part of any horse in TheStable. He spends all his time researching items just so he can dream up these things. If he has any balls or any coin I'll bet him any amount he cannot give proof and one thing you can bank on I'll come loaded. Your move Calhoun the BS Artist.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on August 11, 2020, 10:01:59 PM
Is this a joke?

A friend and I own 1% of a 2FT that cost $830.  Ave mo bills are $35-$45.

You think Stable Owners should  have a right to dump our share?

To who?

At what price?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

That's not how it works. 
 
What if the horse moves forward bigly and doubles in value?

Should MacDonald then be able to buy our share at a discounted price?

What you own, you own.  And its worth exactly what someone will pay you for it when you want to sell it. 

Miss Meringue 4 / 2  0  1  $12349

U got ripped off
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on August 13, 2020, 09:32:16 AM
Any Buttfuck Ohio fair updates?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 13, 2020, 10:28:11 AM
U got ripped off
I won my 1/2 share.

My personal cost = $0.
 
And I got a horseshoe.

I'm way ahead.

Don't be jelly.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 13, 2020, 01:17:00 PM
LOL their are 814 clients say 125 horses meaning 12,500 shares invested and some clown is posting a 1/2 share he got free.  ngc3 nobody cares and its irrelevant to the post. The other 99.5 shares of a now turned fair horse out over 100k may have a different opinion. They can't even watch the fair races so much for entertainment?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 13, 2020, 01:33:56 PM
Some fake bigshot is making fun of others while he got swindled to the tune of several thousand.

He really should focus on getting Becks a decent dentist.  Mouth's looking like 2 miles of bad road these days.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 13, 2020, 05:22:46 PM
forum clown stop ruining a good thread with more garbage. I've put back every penny into the industry plus a lot more but when you actually have a professional job at the CBOT for a career...it was my choice. But you wouldn't know a honest days work much less then having major skin in the game. Just lies, more lies racing under a stable in MI you had no part of, and a WHOLE fucking 1/2% of 1%. Which probably also a lie? Face it name some horses you owned legit or just be the whipping boy of not being a owner taking part on a horse forum since your imaginary friends have dumped you and you being throw out of the basement for not paying rent!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 13, 2020, 05:49:41 PM
I believe you got bounced out of your firm.  That's the buzz.

You live in a cheap ass Ariz house in 112 degree heat and have no pool ?
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 

Did you go for the putting green option?

I'm the only AM share owner who told what the ave bills are.  You got fleeced and are embarrassed and won't say..   I get it. 

You're so fuckn successful your poor wife got to work for cheap to have insurnce for y'all .

Tell more lies Buttfker and you will get 100x more truth about you.

Your best move is to apologize and fuck off.  It really is.

You live in 113 degrees and you have a putting green.  Great career you had.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Great thread, yes.  You and 5 other Simps sobbing about other people's money.


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 13, 2020, 06:45:52 PM
More lies 4,000sq ft house with a pool but here you go ruining a thread with crap. Takes a shallow individual behind a keyboard to post about someone's wife that has more class in her finger tips then a nameless faceless douche on a racing forum. She has a masters plus and is lead counselor at her HS. Bounced from the firm  ngc3 ngc3 please...lies. I'll post the AM bills don't care not getting fleeced and IMalovelylady just paid for the month and next. But play your games i will post facts. Also no putting green more lies. People are aware of your abuse of the truth over the last five years and nobody is sobbing over others money when pointing out truths. Something you obviously have no perception of the truth. If your looking at my fb page you know there is a pool why lie and no putting green? The thread is great until people with no skin in the game chime in and offer nothing to the facts of the thread. Which for you is any thread horse racing related. Five years of it. Sad how you treat posters but I suppose it has to be deficiency of friends through your life?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 13, 2020, 08:52:09 PM
I noticed Calhoun never took me up on my bet. Typical he knows I will expose him for what he is, a fucking BS artist.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: RWB on August 14, 2020, 12:56:25 AM
More lies 4,000sq ft house with a pool but here you go ruining a thread with crap. Takes a shallow individual behind a keyboard to post about someone's wife that has more class in her finger tips then a nameless faceless douche on a racing forum. She has a masters plus and is lead counselor at her HS. Bounced from the firm  ngc3 ngc3 please...lies. I'll post the AM bills don't care not getting fleeced and IMalovelylady just paid for the month and next. But play your games i will post facts. Also no putting green more lies. People are aware of your abuse of the truth over the last five years and nobody is sobbing over others money when pointing out truths. Something you obviously have no perception of the truth. If your looking at my fb page you know there is a pool why lie and no putting green? The thread is great until people with no skin in the game chime in and offer nothing to the facts of the thread. Which for you is any thread horse racing related. Five years of it. Sad how you treat posters but I suppose it has to be deficiency of friends through your life?


Horses first....you don't have to prove yourself on here........you post facts and truths

Anybody with over 12000 posts on this site has nothing better to do with their time or their life
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 14, 2020, 11:04:49 AM


I GOT 53000 POSTS

WE LIKE IT HERE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 14, 2020, 12:38:50 PM
Horses first has more class on his fingernail than that Calhoun ahole does in entirety. What a prick
I'm sure the lying peacock horses asshole will be glad to welcome you to his Lying bustout/fake bigshot trainers and owners sobbing club.   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Maybe he'll invite you to use his putting green in his 120 degree back yard.  tmbz1

And if you ask nice, Iceman will invite you to his Pigeon Fest where you will dine on cowboy cut roast beef and dream of Calhoun. 

Fuck off, please.

Thnaks
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on August 14, 2020, 02:53:53 PM
i like that when calhoun updates us, the temperature goes up a degree or two each time
think it started around 112 and is now 120
it is august after all
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 14, 2020, 03:48:49 PM
RWB, your right I don't need to prove myself against lies. However faceless and nameless keyboard bashing by guys like this who claimed to have me on ignore wants to mix it up well why not even though it gets boring and stale. He claims I don't own horses well champions in the filly divisions trot fudge Sundae and Bailey's Wish will prove that wrong. A nice two yr old years back Dangle the Deke. 4th place BC finisher Ruby I was secondary owner. Have plenty of others that raced well and like many in this industry a longer list of ones that raced but average or no heart. But like most on here there claims he is just a fake name with nothing better to do. Has he ever brought anything to the table owning more then a supposedly 1/2 a share or to betting? And yes it's hot in August in the valley especially when the monsoon rains have been nil. By the way pool temp is 87 still refreshing when its 115 Calhoun. But I'm sure you know as you spy through my fb page.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 14, 2020, 09:55:04 PM
Thread derailed so pass on the nonsense to what was just a subpar week for stake racing for the stable. Sales coming up not many horses going to be making finals. If they do longshots at best.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on August 16, 2020, 01:02:26 AM
Thread derailed so pass on the nonsense to what was just a subpar week for stake racing for the stable. Sales coming up not many horses going to be making finals. If they do longshots at best.
sales will be way off, breeders will be desperate to make deals, the stable will have over 100 yearlings this year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Bluenose on August 16, 2020, 11:43:38 AM
who in there right mind is going to give this guy more babies this fall. The breeders still havent got there money yet and by listenin g to his videos is worried about it. How much money will he be allowed to take .Wake up People he is a Crook. Now he is getting catch drives at Northfield. Cmon
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 16, 2020, 03:23:48 PM
I don't believe the OH jug sale will be off that much given the new sires. Lexington sale let's get one thing straight not one breeder from KY is sending horses north of the border they have all the connections close to home. Especially will all the mares dual eligible.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 16, 2020, 03:34:15 PM
JIIMY,,,WHY ARE YOU WASTING YOURTIME
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on August 18, 2020, 10:23:01 AM
Another dumpster fire sale Wednesday night
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on August 18, 2020, 12:33:43 PM
Who cares about this stable???
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 18, 2020, 12:42:57 PM
Who cares about this stable???

aolt of people who bought in to this stable of horses
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 24, 2020, 01:17:21 PM


 With stakes payments/training fees/vet fees/shipping fees + PAYING for a sub-par driver to go all over hell's creation, to only lose $ for their "investors", this is a complete joke.

 
 ex1: Anthony talking about the Wellwood & Breeders crown races for his mediocre not even grassroot quality horses. (great advertising for the Stable on "investors" dime)

 ex2: Anthony is driving 4 hours to drive a horse & then hopping on a plane to go and drive another mediocre horse because "he has to be there, I know the horse"... (I guarantee the plane ride & hotel will not be from his driving 5% money)



 If Anthony only got his 5% drivers money- he would be living in a tack room cleaning up shit...

 AMAC gets money off the top from all of the "Vet work" & supplements that are marked down on the bills + skims off the top of everything.

 DO YOU THINK HE PAYS HIMSELF TO GO TO ALL THOSE SALES (he shouldn't be near LEX/Harrisburg day 1 or 2, so comical).

 "Investors" paid for Amac, his brother, his brothers GF and their social media worker to the sales for the videos lol, imagine how much that bill was in total for all of the sales they attended.


 Good thing his "investors" like taking a bath on each & every horse.

 All the horses him & his wife claimed were amazing all winter- they ended up ruining them all & NONE of them made a dime so far and alot are still turned out- just bleeding money.

 They RUINED them all driving them like gokarts on that shitty farm track.



 Mrs Merangue they paid 60K USD for a horse that only races cheap fair tracks, complete joke.

 We have an algorithm tracking stats on all of his horses this year so we will be able to post a year end total. This should make for great reading...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 24, 2020, 01:59:37 PM

 With stakes payments/training fees/vet fees/shipping fees + PAYING for a sub-par driver to go all over hell's creation, to only lose $ for their "investors", this is a complete joke.

 We have an algorithm tracking stats on all of his horses this year so we will be able to post a year end total. This should make for great reading...
Will your book come with a crying towel for all the Cryin' Lyin' Jims of the world? 

Or a cheap calculator so your fans can count other people's money?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on August 24, 2020, 02:02:41 PM
buddy was telling me he sells all these yearlings on shares.  the ones that dont sell all shares he keeps until the horse is paid for via training bills. 

so in other words if you got a junk one that hasn't sold all of its shares, he's gonna keep charging training bills until the horse is paid for then finally decide whether its worth keeping.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Bluenose on August 24, 2020, 02:06:34 PM
Kole hanover you are 100% right.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on August 24, 2020, 02:09:57 PM
Will your book come with a crying towel for all the Cryin' Lyin' Jims of the world? 

Or a cheap calculator so your fans can count other people's money?

Kole speak truth tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 24, 2020, 02:16:15 PM
yes kole is on point
 look there is a few decent horses in the lineup if you look hard( not many 2 yr olds)
but overall its a mugs game  for investors ,i know it has not been a normal year but for the most part 2 yr olds have not been affected
most folks would say if a 2 yr old makes $50 k that is a decent year and that just covers expenses, forget about the initial yearling cost
so lets see how many top $50 k, 2 maybe 3 out of 60 or so that started training in november, those are poor odds
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on August 24, 2020, 02:35:43 PM


so in other words if you got a junk one that hasn't sold all of its shares, he's gonna keep charging training bills until the horse is paid for then finally decide whether its worth keeping.

100% fact
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 24, 2020, 05:20:16 PM
He put on a show at the Meadows today, what a joke, horses could not do at the fairs. He is an anchor as a driver, NO talent.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 24, 2020, 05:23:56 PM
Bullseye Kole it's going to get ugly from here on.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on August 24, 2020, 05:26:44 PM
Any better groups out there  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 24, 2020, 05:55:05 PM
Contact Mark Steacy and you will be glad you did. He won't take your money until you talk with his other investors and will give you their emails or in person, first class fractional ownership group.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 24, 2020, 05:57:33 PM
Careful Kole all that truth and you get a guy with half of one share thinking he knows the stable or a guy like Swande who never wants to answer poster questions.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on August 24, 2020, 07:43:56 PM
And with Mark you get top shelf drivers ( that others use to drive). And a proven track record for stake horses
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on August 24, 2020, 08:26:14 PM
Bullseye Kole it's going to get ugly from here on.
How is it going to get ugly? If the ship sinks tomorrow who loses?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 24, 2020, 09:16:36 PM
The training centre like many has been owed forever, the investors lose and don't forget the Euro investors have not been paying their monthly bills for a long time and AM has been passing on the lost money to the dumb dumb investors who just wanted to own a piece of a race horse or should I say rat. This will end up a disappearance during the night with horses left in their stalls with no water and feed, a fucking shame.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 25, 2020, 01:21:29 AM
The entertainment will be lost  ngc3. The great Royhill another dud nw1, forget all the expenses and purchase price the horse still hasn't made back half of the 10k entry fee into that early OH race. What a nightmare.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 25, 2020, 05:25:05 AM
If you think 2020 couldn't get any worse hang on to your hats because this Covid was just the start to screwing up people's lives. I don't think any of the first 29 indicted even with their pleas will get off light and the outright rats like Sandals he has a whole lot of shit coming down on him. And then you have the Coleman's, Harris, Oakes, Burke, Baillegeron, Auciello, Fellows, and just about every trainer racing at M1 and just about every trainer in Ohio none of them could be considered the sharpest knife in the drawer they and many more are all going to get their day in court to prove they have done nothing wrong. When all is said and done the landscape will be very different, or will it and that's my point. Even after all is said and done the stench won't go away so the governments will say pull the funding and shut it down.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on August 26, 2020, 07:49:58 AM

 With stakes payments/training fees/vet fees/shipping fees + PAYING for a sub-par driver to go all over hell's creation, to only lose $ for their "investors", this is a complete joke.

 
 ex1: Anthony talking about the Wellwood & Breeders crown races for his mediocre not even grassroot quality horses. (great advertising for the Stable on "investors" dime)

 ex2: Anthony is driving 4 hours to drive a horse & then hopping on a plane to go and drive another mediocre horse because "he has to be there, I know the horse"... (I guarantee the plane ride & hotel will not be from his driving 5% money)



 If Anthony only got his 5% drivers money- he would be living in a tack room cleaning up shit...

 AMAC gets money off the top from all of the "Vet work" & supplements that are marked down on the bills + skims off the top of everything.

 DO YOU THINK HE PAYS HIMSELF TO GO TO ALL THOSE SALES (he shouldn't be near LEX/Harrisburg day 1 or 2, so comical).

 "Investors" paid for Amac, his brother, his brothers GF and their social media worker to the sales for the videos lol, imagine how much that bill was in total for all of the sales they attended.


 Good thing his "investors" like taking a bath on each & every horse.

 All the horses him & his wife claimed were amazing all winter- they ended up ruining them all & NONE of them made a dime so far and alot are still turned out- just bleeding money.

 They RUINED them all driving them like gokarts on that shitty farm track.



 Mrs Merangue they paid 60K USD for a horse that only races cheap fair tracks, complete joke.

 We have an algorithm tracking stats on all of his horses this year so we will be able to post a year end total. This should make for great reading...

almost everything in your post is wrong

now tell me, how are you feeling about this News that youíre wrong about almost everything. are you mad? are you sad? letís discuss.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on August 26, 2020, 07:52:10 AM
Funding should not be provided if they are not a self sustaining business. Simple. Get out of hear with the "you should see all the $100k trucks atthe tracks"...how do you think they were bought...welfare money.

Not sure the surick, navarro etc cases will be the tipping point but it won't help

not welfare.  they were bought by charging $600 a share for a horse that cost $7,000 @ auction.  Then paying for dem got dam entertain'n rats ery month even though they don't make no money. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 26, 2020, 08:07:19 AM
Money laundering is bad cash into clean cash and TheStables idea is dream cash into Anthony's cash and he has it all.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on August 26, 2020, 08:18:35 AM
not welfare.  they were bought by charging $600 a share for a horse that cost $7,000 @ auction.  Then paying for dem got dam entertain'n rats ery month even though they don't make no money.

they can be purchased for cost the day of the auction.

why wouldnít the price go up when money has been put into the horse?

try thinking critically one time youíll be glad you did, youíre welcome 😊
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 26, 2020, 08:59:56 AM
almost everything in your post is wrong

now tell me, how are you feeling about this News that youíre wrong about almost everything. are you mad? are you sad? letís discuss.
Ask Lyin Cryin Jim...

He knows more than anybody.

Just ask him  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 26, 2020, 09:46:49 AM
He could make it to Hoosier from the meadows 9th 3:30 in time to race he wasnīt in till the 11th 10:02 it is 320 mi. But the question is why would you, plenty of other drivers there who could drive that rat. A lot of miles for nothing, unless he charges mileage.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 26, 2020, 10:22:26 AM
as I have said depends which ones you own and what you paid for them and when
theres lots of selection and lots of shares floating around
smart people who pay attention can do ok



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: AsPromised on August 26, 2020, 02:26:17 PM
Investors must be paying everything from his gas/hotel bills to his data charges on his phone.

Anthony is living the life of luxury.

Too bad he can't drive worth a shit.
Imalovelylady investors can't be happy with his decision to let a 21-1 ride the pocket when he clearly controlled his destiny off the gate and the horse needed to finish in the top 2.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 26, 2020, 03:52:12 PM
The race he was in at The Meadows went off at 3:30 so the earliest he could leave would be about 4 and I was told he was in the paddock at Hoosier at 9.  Nobody in their right mind, even AM cuts it that close to drive a 30-1 shot and then finish 8th or 9th.
Let's keep an eye on him today. 

Let us know when he leaves wherever he is and we'll time him to his next destination. 

Sound good?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 26, 2020, 04:10:16 PM
He rented a car drove from Meadows to Hoosier then rented a room had a flight in the morning to Pitt. Tim's help then picked him up to take to the Meadows were he has a car. All in his video. The old day before covid it was a 150 dollar charge to rent a car and not bring it back leaving in said new place. Those charges may not be around during covid? I liked the breeding on that Guccio and sale price was right. Thankfully stayed away. Another disaster stable horse. Any fairs coming up? I know the 110k plus rat has to be in one.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 26, 2020, 04:11:21 PM
Swandre once again way off and Kole your correct.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 26, 2020, 04:13:25 PM
He rented a car drove from Meadows to Hoosier then rented a room had a flight in the morning to Pitt. Tim's help then picked him up to take to the Meadows were he has a car. All in his video. The old day before covid it was a 150 dollar charge to rent a car and not bring it back leaving in said new place. Those charges may not be around during covid? I liked the breeding on that Guccio and sale price was right. Thankfully stayed away. Another disaster stable horse. Any fairs coming up? I know the 110k plus rat has to be in one.

he travels more than term?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 26, 2020, 04:23:56 PM
As Promised the drive on Imalovelylady when knowing you need 1st or 2nd and he gets the horse away 3rd only had one option for the owners...first up? At this point doesn't matter if your 3rd 4th or 5th other then purse money...but was that the foal? As a owner of Imalovelylady I rather take my shot for 75k being one of the favorites then for 300k. Hoping you don't draw horrible then get a average drive. Not to mention there are 4 or 5 better horses then this small filly.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on August 26, 2020, 05:24:16 PM
He rented a car drove from Meadows to Hoosier then rented a room had a flight in the morning to Pitt. Tim's help then picked him up to take to the Meadows were he has a car. All in his video. The old day before covid it was a 150 dollar charge to rent a car and not bring it back leaving in said new place. Those charges may not be around during covid? I liked the breeding on that Guccio and sale price was right. Thankfully stayed away. Another disaster stable horse. Any fairs coming up? I know the 110k plus rat has to be in one.

Wrong. Drove his own car to and from the Meadows.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Dingus on August 26, 2020, 05:45:43 PM
Letís get Magnun, PI to stalk the guy.
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 26, 2020, 06:21:47 PM
Wrong. Drove his own car to and from the Meadows.
Thanks.  That's what I understood as well.

Maybe Lyin Cryin Jim got some bad info?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 26, 2020, 06:55:36 PM
fellas, lets take a breath and take a step back
if we want to debate the basis of the stable or its performance that is all good
surely to goodness you all have better things to do than track the guys movements and the  possible cost
if he does bill the owners for the travel and it is spread between 6 horses and many many owners big deal
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on August 26, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
He rented a car drove from Meadows to Hoosier then rented a room had a flight in the morning to Pitt. Tim's help then picked him up to take to the Meadows were he has a car. All in his video. The old day before covid it was a 150 dollar charge to rent a car and not bring it back leaving in said new place. Those charges may not be around during covid? I liked the breeding on that Guccio and sale price was right. Thankfully stayed away. Another disaster stable horse. Any fairs coming up? I know the 110k plus rat has to be in one.

who is this 110k rat? I didnt know they had a $100k yearling in there?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 26, 2020, 08:04:55 PM
Miss Meringue 60K purchase at Jug sale. Training and staked to everything she is the top fair horse of the stable.

Yes Capt Morgan I did not see the last video obviously there was a change from the last video and your correct drove there and then drove back to Columbus. After watching the video a bit ago I stand corrected. I'm sure Mr Half% will call me a liar well just didn't catch up on a busy day.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 26, 2020, 09:06:23 PM
here is an idea for those clearly with idle time
go back through some of the sales  catalogues from last fall and see how some of the horses who sold for $100k and more are doing
yes the stable has issues but you seem to think every horse they buy should be a stake champion
not taking shots at anyone but how would you like to have been in on some of colemans high priced ones that have not turned out after getting the best of everything
not suggesting hitting owners with a $3,000 vet bill is cool either if unjustified
and the stable has never paid $100 k for a yearling  but if i am wrong please correct with the name of the horse
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 26, 2020, 09:30:51 PM
Brown Jug its well known most high priced horses don't do well getting owners back there money. Proven year after year when you sell over 2,000 horses between Lexington, Harrisburg, Jug sale, and Hoosier. We talk many times of high priced brothers and sisters that can't cut the muster as previous foals. It is what is worse in the thoroughbred industry. But the other high profile stables aren't the topic. As far as the 110k it was noted back some numbers of posts about MM being over 100k with expenses nobody said anything about them buying a 100k(60K). The doctor may have missed the runup to that?

I don't think every horse should be a stake champion(not sure I ever said that) however even the law of averages one can do better buying 78 yearlings two years ago and 60 something last year. The 50 or more horses that raced at 2 or where holdovers at two not one has come back better at 3. Even Globetrotting has been a disappointment to this point. Is that because of the horses talent? One that seems to have 1.0mln or so give or take buying horses could probably do a little better buying less horses and better quality? He says he treats everyone's money like it is his? Well buying a horse using others money is one thing but keeping horses that don't justify others money when time has shown the horse won't provide nothing but a training bill.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on August 26, 2020, 10:21:31 PM
I saw your post at 4:10 today where you referred to a 100k rat - I just assumed that was the purchase price of a horse - usually when they refer to a horse and its cost, its usually the yearling price.  Or we would need to rename Maverick the 1.2 Milllion rat with training, vet and staking probably. 

Calhoun - you own 1/2 a share in this 60k yearling - have you received 40k worth of bills in the less than one year since the auction?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 26, 2020, 11:02:14 PM
I personally know 1 owner who has a horse with AM and for the month of July and July only the vet bill was $3000. He was shocked to say the least and asked for a breakdown to which AM told him he does not provide breakdowns but using your logic, spreading $3000 over 100 percent ONLY amounts to $30 per share so what the hell.

NO FCKIN WAY DID HE SAY HE DIDNT PROVIDE BREAK DOWNS

FOR REAL

THEN WHY DIDNT THE OWNER GET AHOLD OF THE VET

ASK HIM FOR A BREAK DOWN
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 26, 2020, 11:19:24 PM
He won the half share but Doc your a owner right? 11 months of training and stake payments. Vet bills and entry fees. It all adds up.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 26, 2020, 11:45:31 PM
Vet bills should come from vets

Traing bills come from trainers

Every trainer I ever dealt with did it this way

You have a vet question. Call the vet you have a monthly
Breakdown 
If your dumb enuff to have to have your trainer combine both
And have him tell you he canít be questioned for a breakdown

Then Shame on you as an owner

Your a fucking PIGEON


enjoy the ASS FCKIN

JUST BY NUFF

KAY Y JELLY
IT WONT HURT AS HARD
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 27, 2020, 12:00:10 AM
I never said it was you

I made a general observation i

But if itís you and u feel guilty of being a fckin pigeon
Your a fckin nitwit
  Good night

Pigeon ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 27, 2020, 07:43:24 AM
First of all, if you could read it is not me but someone I know that has the horse with AM.  You can think anyway you want and even pray to the tooth fairy but that is NOT the way AM does it whether you believe it or not as you are a perfect example of....why let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Why is it that 99% of the time you add absolutely NOTHING to a thread other than swearing and attacking
As I have said many times before when LUCPARK starts a thread ignore it and when he jumps in to hijack a thread stop posting to that thread. The guy is just a child.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Dingus on August 27, 2020, 09:17:33 AM
Vet bills should come from vets

Traing bills come from trainers

Every trainer I ever dealt with did it this way

You have a vet question. Call the vet you have a monthly
Breakdown 
If your dumb enuff to have to have your trainer combine both
And have him tell you he canít be questioned for a breakdown

Then Shame on you as an owner

Your a fucking PIGEON


enjoy the ASS FCKIN

JUST BY NUFF

KAY Y JELLY
IT WONT HURT AS HARD

Just an observation from my experience with VIP stable several years ago:
Their statements had vet work listed that was done by the trainer and separate charges by vets listed as single line items.
If I wanted details, I had to ask for them, and then I would get a copy of the actual vet bill from the vet.
So, if you donít ask, you wonít get.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 27, 2020, 09:20:07 AM
Just an observation from my experience with VIP stable several years ago:
Their statements had vet work listed that was done by the trainer and separate charges by vets listed as single line items.
If I wanted details, I had to ask for them, and then I would get a copy of the actual vet bill from the vet.
So, if you donít ask, you wonít get.

egg zactly tmbz1 tmbz1

not givin details of a vet by a trainer cant be a good thing

hiding something?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 27, 2020, 10:59:01 AM
I think the real scam now is the use of other trainers, charge 75.00 per day and pay other trainer 50.00 per day. Or what ever $ figures they agree on. Great scam, Gillock and Parker do it to Bob Key all the time at the Meadows. I donīt know the exact $ they charge or pay the other trainer, but it is $ in there pocket. AM is a scam artist, what is his % of getting yearlings to races, % of horses that break even or profit. How many come back as 3yr olds and make money. What I see is a total scam.His marketing and facebook posts are slick and well rehearsed. Remember MOST con artists are good at this. Look at Trump
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 27, 2020, 11:18:27 AM
That's why Anthony hired Kelly Spenser away from marketing at Grand River she knows her stuff when it comes to marketing and that's why all the videos and that are slick. But all this marketing costs and IMO why so much marketing when the industry is laughing at TheStable and how about this many are not calling it by name but by it's nickname THE INCINERATOR where investors money goes to die.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 27, 2020, 11:52:19 AM
Iceman, Who picks up the cost of Kelly Spencer, I would think the proper way would be AM pick up the cost as it really has no benefit to the actual shareholders. When this scam does burst into flames, it is another black mark on harness racing. If a forensic accountant ever got the books I am sure it would not be that hard for them to cut through all the BS. It still amazes me how no one in our sport will call it what it is. Since his scam started, how many horses have been purchased, how many have broken even let alone make a profit.
1. Cost of horse
2. Costs associated with each horse, training bill, shipping, vet etc all costs
3. Money made with horse, purses or sale price

Basic bookkeeping. It looks to the outsider that there is no way anyone other than AMand staff are really making any $. Fuck entertainment value is it ainīt paying itīs way.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 27, 2020, 12:42:41 PM
. If a forensic accountant ever got the books I am sure it would not be that hard for them to cut through all the BS.

 It looks to the outsider that there is no way anyone other than AMand staff are really making any $.
I know a bit about forensic accounting.

Why would it be surprising to learn that likely only the trainer makes money on any single random horse?

Don't you know this already?

Why are you sobbing so hard about this?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 27, 2020, 01:23:43 PM
I know a bit about business which most on here  clearly do not
 Kelly spencer would be a business expense, plain and simple, the same as the accountant is
now you can debate her value/importance  but that is not for owners to decide, if the CEO(amac) sees benefit than so be it
if people strongly disagree with that aspect or others  of the stable dont invest, very simple
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 27, 2020, 01:42:15 PM
Calhoun : I am not sobbing at all. At one time this was not a completely screwed up sport, we had owners, trainers and drivers who actually did cared about the optics. Maybe not all on the up and up, but at least stayed under the radar. Do you think AM is on the up and up.

Brown jug, I do understand how business works, I know how to classify expenses. I have also seen too many scams and it never works out for racing in general. My problem is they are fleecing people and sooner or later they will figure it out, who will have the black eye. You can only shoot your self in the foot so many times.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 27, 2020, 02:31:33 PM
jupiter, you are right it might end badly, but lets be honest horse racing in general has had a black eye almost from day one, the shadiness that goes on in every aspect and level of the game is truly and now being proven to be criminal
there are very few fools like us who would waste their time and money in this game
amac if in this group ( and why wouldn't he be to some extent ) is not the first and wont be the last
the difference is he puts it out there and with todays social media everyone can see and comment on it
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 27, 2020, 04:02:08 PM
I know a bit about business which most on here  clearly do not
 Kelly spencer would be a business expense, plain and simple, the same as the accountant is
now you can debate her value/importance  but that is not for owners to decide, if the CEO(amac) sees benefit than so be it
if people strongly disagree with that aspect or others  of the stable dont invest, very simple
Brown Jug I completely agree with what you just said.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: The Exporter on August 27, 2020, 04:44:34 PM
There is one dynamic you just can't spin. Buying $10K -$20K yearlings will lead you to 20 years or better data, outlining the % of 2 year olds that made money or paid their way. That % does not change based upon how the ownership is made up.
The overwhelming majority of these horses are a financial loss to their owners.
 Anthony just found a way to profit from it.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 27, 2020, 04:45:03 PM
Calhoun : I am not sobbing at all. At one time this was not a completely screwed up sport, we had owners, trainers and drivers who actually did cared about the optics. Maybe not all on the up and up, but at least stayed under the radar. Do you think AM is on the up and up.

The optics have ALWAYS been bad.  But the industry supported itself.  Now, 95 %of owners and trainers cry about purse and subsidy cuts, all the while being fully ignorant of the laws an agreements that fund their careers an provide for their families.

MacDonald packaged a nice product that people liked.  It's awful now because his horses are bad and people don't get to go and pet their 1% of a horse.

It's a great idea and, even today, $220 buys you  a share of Authentic, who just won the Haskell and should run in the Derby in a week.

The valuation on him is ridiculous but people love the experience.  Partnerships are thriving in NY as well. 

To each his own but it's hilarious to see people drone on for months about other people's money.




Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 27, 2020, 04:57:34 PM
Anthony was or was going broke and then TheStable emerged. From the outset it was how do I stay in the game and make a living from it and I have to say Anthony and only Anthony has made money. The guy can't drive because of his stone hands and no head and he certainly has no eye for a horse. Investors wonder why he doesn't turn over the lines to a good driver and again it's because they have never been properly trained and I guess Anthony feels that sitting in the bike will help him help the horse, whatever this will soon come to an end.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 27, 2020, 06:01:24 PM
Anthony was or was going broke
How long have you been counting his money?

How would you know?

And why do you use weasel wording like "was or was going" broke?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 27, 2020, 06:10:38 PM
He was prior to The Stable a mediocre horseman who was broke and he had screwed a few guys who gave him a chance and then The Stable and he and only he seems to be doing ok.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 27, 2020, 06:42:01 PM
He was prior to The Stable a mediocre horseman who was broke and he had screwed a few guys who gave him a chance and then The Stable and he and only he seems to be doing ok.
He strted The Stable in 2015. 

His 5% as a DRIVER before AND during AND after that year:

2013 .. $195,000
2014 .. $180,000
2015 .. $215,000
2016 .. $290,000
2017 .. $267,000

When was he broke?

Who did he screw?



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 27, 2020, 07:19:34 PM
exporter you are right , buying cheap yearlings rarely pays off
having said that buying expensive yearlings is also no guarantee
we all know it is a crap shoot to some extent
as for amac, i would suggest he is an entrepreneur, he created something some people( not everyone ) wanted to buy
when people no longer want what he is selling he will go out of business or have to adjust and adapt, just like any business
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brkn Headpole on August 27, 2020, 08:25:17 PM
Why isn't he transparent on the actual selling price when they do sell/buy a horse privately?  Lawmaker hmmmm how much did he pocket?

Why did he buy a nickel claimer from his uncle and divvy it out at  22k; pocket 2k and rest went to uncle. Huge conflict of interest, also arises the principal-agency problem in this case multiple principals.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on August 27, 2020, 09:06:11 PM
good points
some could see through that purchase from his uncle and went no where near it , but should never have happened

as for lawmaker or similar deals if as an owner you are happy with the price you receive than so be it, most deals are done with a agent or broker or sold at auction ( commission) so not a big issue as long as it is fair  for all
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: RWB on August 28, 2020, 12:20:46 AM
He strted The Stable in 2015. 

His 5% as a DRIVER before AND during AND after that year:

2013 .. $195,000
2014 .. $180,000
2015 .. $215,000
2016 .. $290,000
2017 .. $267,000


When was he broke?

Who did he screw?

Anthony made over 3.5 million in purse earnings each year from 2013-2017?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 28, 2020, 01:08:05 AM
RWB no doesn't appear to according to Pathways.
 
2013 2,268,000    5%  113,400
2014 1,604,911            80,245
2015 1,047,444            52,372
2016  653,585              32,679
2017  776,131              38,806

Purses from driving those first three years those purses and totals probably in CDN dollars. Unless the previous numbers came
elsewhere these are straight from pathway.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on August 28, 2020, 06:33:14 AM
Looks like a downward spiral, can you live on 40k in the great white north. How much did the stable make in 2019, how many starts, what is the average per start.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on August 28, 2020, 08:05:35 AM
Anthony made over 3.5 million in purse earnings each year from 2013-2017?
Obviously math isn't your strong suit.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Dingus on August 28, 2020, 08:15:19 AM
Obviously math isn't your strong suit.

RWB has a ? On his statement.
The question should be for Calhoun.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 28, 2020, 11:35:16 AM
Got a bad download.

Sorry about that.

Carry on
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on August 28, 2020, 11:35:45 AM
Got a bad download.

Sorry about that.

Carry on

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 28, 2020, 11:41:35 AM
Join my new fractional ownership group

Pigeon Proof Partnership  tmbz1

No bills, free horseshoes and you can get 110% refunded any time.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: RWB on August 28, 2020, 12:26:22 PM
Obviously math isn't your strong suit.

Iceman,

I knew the numbers were impossible to be true......that is why I asked the question......... .unlike yourself I don't come on here to argue with people........I was politely asking Calhoun to review his stats because I knew they were incorrect

The reason I used over 3.5 million is obvious to anyone that understands math.......and drivers earning 5% of 3.5 million is 175k since Anthony's lowest amount was 180k in the years listed......and actually Math is my thing
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on August 30, 2020, 09:11:24 PM
AM is better at math then all of you lol
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 31, 2020, 01:15:47 AM
All the entertainment value is gone from the on track antics of KDDO. She gone...new owner for 20k
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 31, 2020, 06:31:48 PM


 Anthony "Burps" MacDonald


 He hasn't missed a meal, paid for by the Stable.ca, since its inception


 the guy is a human gas chamber
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 31, 2020, 06:36:09 PM
Join my new fractional ownership group

Pigeon Proof Partnership  tmbz1

No bills, free horseshoes and you can get 110% refunded any time.



 Do they take 100K horses to the little fairs?
 Like this weekend the 100K horse is starring @ the Googenheimersup Fair- I think he said it is only 5.5 hours from his home.


 All of the 2Y.O's he touted as being amazing all winter- got ruined playing GoKart racing on his Bullring, some others have done ok(ones that he wasn't near) but about 90% of his stock is bleeding money monthly...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on August 31, 2020, 06:41:11 PM


 Do they take 100K horses to the little fairs?
 Like this weekend the 100K horse is starring @ the Googenheimersup Fair- I think he said it is only 5.5 hours from his home.


Tell the truth.... Did you know she won 20 minutes before you typed this?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on August 31, 2020, 07:04:59 PM
Tell the truth.... Did you know she won 20 minutes before you typed this?


 We're talking about Norman Halls #1 pick, of course she won 20 mins ago
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on August 31, 2020, 10:51:59 PM
Yeah tell the truth like the 5 years of way inflated AM driving earnings? Bad download ngc3 ngc3.
So much for providing owners with entertainment when they can't watch their horses live because
they aren't good enough having to go to a fair.  Royhill highly touted poor animal still racing in a maiden
and can't fight for a check.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 01, 2020, 08:27:26 AM
Yeah tell the truth like the 5 years of way inflated AM driving earnings? Bad download ngc3 ngc3.
So much for providing owners with entertainment when they can't watch their horses live because
they aren't good enough having to go to a fair.  Royhill highly touted poor animal still racing in a maiden
and can't fight for a check.

There were multiple horses racing the top stakes in Ohio at that fair yesterday, Brian Brownís and Chris Beaver.
and secondly the owners absolutely could watch them live.

Royhill isnít the first and wonít be the last horse who trained down well and hasnít panned out. youíre not smart for pointing it out. it happens.

7 starters in Ohio yesterday. 6 hit the ticket

ĎI should go on horseplop and talk about the 1 horse that didnít Iíll look smartí

😂😂😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Dingus on September 01, 2020, 08:48:40 AM

 We're talking about Norman Halls #1 pick, of course she won 20 mins ago

Norman Hall?  Isnít he the guy who wrote the book Pedigree Matching?
I tried using that a number of years ago, and none of his top matches did much.
Is it better now?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 01, 2020, 08:57:32 AM
There were multiple horses racing the top stakes in Ohio at that fair yesterday, Brian Brownís and Chris Beaver.
and secondly the owners absolutely could watch them live.

Royhill isnít the first and wonít be the last horse who trained down well and hasnít panned out. youíre not smart for pointing it out. it happens.

7 starters in Ohio yesterday. 6 hit the ticket

ĎI should go on horseplop and talk about the 1 horse that didnít Iíll look smartí

😂😂😂
Lyin Cryin Jim really MUST have got screwed BIGLY. 

He's been sobbing about the same thing for years.

Guy can't stand that some nice folks have gotten involved in horse owning without needing deep pockets.

He's bragged often about how he always had "major skin" (his words) in the game and how that makes him better than the next guy.

Bitter, angry ShitHead.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 10:37:23 AM
More like lying Calhoon? poon never lies well we finally put that to bed. As far as AM he is leading clients down the excuse road of allergies for 2 years now. I've been around many horses, many trainers, and vets as well. 11 years owning 55 or more horses raced and never once had a horse have allergies, horses at the tracks have allergies and if they did it was related more to the bedding amd you would see it more from having a rash on its body. Not redness and pimples the claims every time a horse is up the track. If they have allergies why is he not giving them Acetylcistine to clear that up a day before the race? My fault for pointing out a nice con running two years strong on so called ALLERGIES that were never blamed from the bedding environment of said horses. Swandre I can go on and name many of the Royhills of the stable while some of those fair horses are fair horses because they can't compete on a par mutual track.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: AsPromised on September 01, 2020, 10:41:50 AM
Royhill ngc3 ngc3

After last nights performance, must have pimple and redness coming out his ying yang.

Keep drinking the kool-aid. 11.mq 11.mq

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 01, 2020, 10:54:04 AM


Itís really none of your business is it?

but to answer your moronic question : about the same amount as every trainer/ownership group who had a nice colt training down and under performed this year. every trainer that starts out with 20+ babies has some nice colts training down who underachieve. Thatís what has happened with this colt so far, So what now? Do you have any idea how many horses get paid into grand circuit races that never win a maiden? do you have any concept of how the industry works?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 11:14:25 AM
Yes all the ones with this airborne virus that is spreading allergies that can be treated before or on race day. Swandre maybe you should pass that along so clients aren't conned daily but the false reporting. If they are sick and have mucus it's legit and many barns get sick horses. Talk to trainers and vets you will get a loud laugh at allergies. Unless they are allergic to their bedding. By the way the stable with 60+ the past two years have many of Royhill's and none of the GC horses like those other stables that do. But I suppose that's the value aspect by cheap, hope for the best, and keep billing for mediocre?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 01, 2020, 11:27:48 AM
Yes all the ones with this airborne virus that is spreading allergies that can be treated before or on race day. Swandre maybe you should pass that along so clients aren't conned daily but the false reporting. If they are sick and have mucus it's legit and many barns get sick horses. Talk to trainers and vets you will get a loud laugh at allergies. Unless they are allergic to their bedding. By the way the stable with 60+ the past two years have many of Royhill's and none of the GC horses like those other stables that do. But I suppose that's the value aspect by cheap, hope for the best, and keep billing for mediocre?

why are you concerned? do you not have anything better to do with your life? I feel bad for you and your family. sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 11:40:47 AM
Why do you care what others have to post? Nothing better to do? Why should clients not know the truths of a stable manager who picks out horses knowing he know nothing about pedigree but mentions it on every horse he videos for clients? Also if you have AM ear ask about Really Blue Chip how does a trainer train that horse down, qualifies and may have raced poorly once or twice and then says the horse needs 200lbs. 200lbs on a young mare is huge and no weight equals no muscle. How does that horse not get turned out 45 days prior? Don't feel sad, I separate a lot of my free time to horses away from family time. I have plenty of time so not a sad state of affairs. Why do you care?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 12:59:48 PM
Actually Swandre no need to answer and you have some drives coming up soon at the Meadows.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on September 01, 2020, 01:13:10 PM
Actually Swandre no need to answer and you have some drives coming up soon at the Meadows.

Lucky, how you pick up drives there?
Tough biz
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 01, 2020, 03:03:22 PM
Why do you care what others have to post? Nothing better to do? Why should clients not know the truths of a stable manager who picks out horses knowing he know nothing about pedigree but mentions it on every horse he videos for clients? Also if you have AM ear ask about Really Blue Chip how does a trainer train that horse down, qualifies and may have raced poorly once or twice and then says the horse needs 200lbs. 200lbs on a young mare is huge and no weight equals no muscle. How does that horse not get turned out 45 days prior? Don't feel sad, I separate a lot of my free time to horses away from family time. I have plenty of time so not a sad state of affairs. Why do you care?


the truths? LOL
you guys are wrong about 98% of the time

the truths lol, best laugh Iíve had all week mate, thanks
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: jupiter on September 01, 2020, 03:11:36 PM
Box this asshole up and send him back over the river. He will wind up, up shits creek. First thing STOP driving, you have no talent. Next STOP the bleeding, get rid of the junk, ALL of them. Apologize to all the people you fucked over. Get a JOB.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on September 01, 2020, 03:47:15 PM
Then stop buying shares and you Will have nothing to bitch about then.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 04:18:00 PM
98% yeah that's not the case especially most of the wordage comes from the stable video themselves. Excuse after excuse but non more then the 2 years of the theory of allergies. Swandre
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 01, 2020, 05:22:28 PM
Once again you missed my point/questions as you are the one who claimed that the Mt. Gilead fair was jammed with top stakes horses from the Brown and Beaver barns...which is very far from the truth unless you can point to more than the 2 Beaver ran in the 7th race.
Simple question that requires a reasonable answer rather than your ranting. Problem with you is that you try and make a point and when questioned with facts you resort to name calling rather than admit you were wrong...sad but true

Brian Brownís 2 year old filly who finished 2nd in the $150,000 next gen series just got beat at a fair (by a stable horse)

do I think heís a dummy? absolutely not. these things happen with 2 year olds.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 01, 2020, 05:33:00 PM


 Here Swandre, this is a little tidbit that even you can't deflect/lie about which sums up theStable & Burps MacDonalds operation:


 ngc3

 MRS Merangue they paid 60K USD for, in his own words "she isn't good enough for the Buckeyes" yet he is shipping her all over (Urbana, Mt Gilliack lol) to race in the fairs but the retard NEVER EVEN PAID the $500 to keep her ELIGIBLE for the FAIR FINALS...




 tmbz1  Man OH Man, what a gameplan!  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 01, 2020, 05:36:37 PM
Brian Brownís 2 year old filly who finished 2nd in the $150,000 next gen series just got beat at a fair (by a stable horse)

do I think heís a dummy? absolutely not. these things happen with 2 year olds.


 Didn't the Stable pay $10K twice for the Next Gen stakes but only raced 1 because they entered a horse who wasn't eligible?

 You think Browns horse was all out for the fair race?

 You know Burps MacDonald was, he ruined all their expensive yearlings playing GoKartBumper Cars all winter over that hacktrack at their farm.


 Very rich of Swandre the Defender to talk about the Next Gen stakes when that is another fine example of the "tight ship" Burps runs...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Bluenose on September 01, 2020, 05:41:56 PM
He is a Genius. Never paid her but paid Roy Hill into that race for 10000 and lets not forget about paying all of those other ones into the Hambo and other big races . They should call him the tidy bowl man just keeps on flushing money down the drain.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 01, 2020, 05:51:54 PM
He is a Genius. Never paid her but paid Roy Hill into that race for 10000 and lets not forget about paying all of those other ones into the Hambo and other big races . They should call him the tidy bowl man just keeps on flushing money down the drain.
  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Tidy Bowl Man best I've heard today and so true.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on September 01, 2020, 06:14:50 PM
Harness racing has always been about who will buy the shit your selling.  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 01, 2020, 06:28:43 PM

 Here Swandre, this is a little tidbit that even you can't deflect/lie about which sums up theStable & Burps MacDonalds operation:


 ngc3

 MRS Merangue they paid 60K USD for, in his own words "she isn't good enough for the Buckeyes" yet he is shipping her all over (Urbana, Mt Gilliack lol) to race in the fairs

You have taken the sin of counting other peoples money to new heights, worse than Cryin Lyin Jim.

"Shipping all over" ... you dolt... it's 65 miles between Gileas and urbana.  Or maybe the horses are riding private planes? 

He had 10 run Monday, ,, 10/4-2-4.

They are what they are... MM has managed $16k on 3 wins. 

Anyway, keep sobbing.   I'll check back sometime to see how you are holding up.



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 01, 2020, 06:50:55 PM
Sorry to tell you but the horses did not go from Urbana to Mt. Gilead....in case you do not know he is stabled at Northfield so it would be interesting to see what he charges to ship a horse to the fairs....if it is like his vet bills the private plane may be cheaper
add an hour or two  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 

can you find out the shipping cost??  lots of other people's money counters would be interested.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 06:59:39 PM
More lies by Calhoun probably another bad download?? Fair 2-1-2. Northfield 2nd and 6th. Yonkers 2nd. Mohawk 3rd, 10th, 9th, and 9th.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 01, 2020, 07:05:55 PM
Where did AM race on Monday where he had all 10 1,2,3? MM has $16K won this year not in 3 wins.. you must be taking lessons from Swandre
ok,,, if you say so... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

have fun counting
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on September 01, 2020, 07:06:52 PM
ok,,, if you say so... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

have fun counting

u got horses with stable

calhound?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 01, 2020, 07:15:21 PM
u got horses with stable

calhound?
yes, i won 1/2 a share on a MMA fight.   

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 01, 2020, 08:01:36 PM
yes, i won 1/2 a share on a MMA fight.   


 so you don't have any horses then... Gotcha


 My & my brothers filly has already won a grassroots & also finished 3rd, she was around 18K USD. We don't take her to the fairs...

 You have a mind-share, sorry- half of 1, same as half a brain

 Merangue made 16K but will still be in the minus plus will never recoup the 60K Usd paid for her.
 
You actually mean in total for the year, with bills/training, she will have MADE any profit?   It'll just be Burps & the gang cashing checks- the owners won't see a dime of it (they just pay for his hotel/gas/food every day + his mortgage/vehicles).


 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 01, 2020, 08:03:38 PM
ok,,, if you say so... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

have fun counting


 no Andrew- you say so

 just like ALL of the fake purse $ you were touting Burps as making, in reality he was LUCKY to pull in 40K a year from his 5%.

 Do you realize that he is in debt up to his eye balls?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 01, 2020, 08:18:59 PM

 Here Swandre, this is a little tidbit that even you can't deflect/lie about which sums up theStable & Burps MacDonalds operation:


 ngc3

 MRS Merangue they paid 60K USD for, in his own words "she isn't good enough for the Buckeyes" yet he is shipping her all over (Urbana, Mt Gilliack lol) to race in the fairs but the retard NEVER EVEN PAID the $500 to keep her ELIGIBLE for the FAIR FINALS...

 tmbz1  Man OH Man, what a gameplan!  tmbz1

where did he say that (not good enough for buckeyes and didnt pay to keep her eligible for Fair final)??
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 01, 2020, 09:00:14 PM

 Here Swandre, this is a little tidbit that even you can't deflect/lie about which sums up theStable & Burps MacDonalds operation:


 ngc3

 MRS Merangue they paid 60K USD for, in his own words "she isn't good enough for the Buckeyes" yet he is shipping her all over (Urbana, Mt Gilliack lol) to race in the fairs but the retard NEVER EVEN PAID the $500 to keep her ELIGIBLE for the FAIR FINALS...




 tmbz1  Man OH Man, what a gameplan!  tmbz1

She likely wouldnít have made the fair finals so who is the retard?

the fair circuit is $500 for the year, itís a great place to tighten horses up and get them some experience. Not to pay 20 yearlings into the finals at another $500. the finals are literally for horses who race the fair circuit all summer. not for horses racing in them between buckeyes.

thought ya had something there didnít you? so sorry
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 01, 2020, 09:01:32 PM
Box this asshole up and send him back over the river. He will wind up, up shits creek. First thing STOP driving, you have no talent. Next STOP the bleeding, get rid of the junk, ALL of them. Apologize to all the people you fucked over. Get a JOB.

yeah he might stop doing what heís doing because some douche on the internet said so 😂😂😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 01, 2020, 09:04:20 PM
TRDOC was mentioned in the video.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 01, 2020, 09:04:57 PM
Sorry to tell you but the horses did not go from Urbana to Mt. Gilead....in case you do not know he is stabled at Northfield so it would be interesting to see what he charges to ship a horse to the fairs....if it is like his vet bills the private plane may be cheaper

you would literally be interested to see what people charge to ship horses you donít own around wouldnít you? why would you choose to publicly announce how sad your life is? you didnít have to do this friend. good luck though
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on September 01, 2020, 09:16:03 PM
The guy tells you people for entertainment only!
WTF are you all bitching about?
If you donít like the stable go buy one on your own and see what the bills are like. He buys yearlings at a lower price to compete against big breeders and stables in Ohio, not easy. So he is taking chances for people at fraction of what it would cost someone to do it on their own. His bills are what they are.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 01, 2020, 09:19:41 PM
How To Take Investors Money And Watch Them Go Broke While I Made Money
Book will hit bookshelves this fall.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on September 01, 2020, 09:23:27 PM
The guy tells you people for entertainment only!
WTF are you all bitching about?
If you donít like the stable go buy one on your own and see what the bills are like. He buys yearlings at a lower price to compete against big breeders and stables in Ohio, not easy. So he is taking chances for people at fraction of what it would cost someone to do it on their own. His bills are what they are.

So he has to rip people off cause itís entertainment?

I donít think anybody signed up to get bent over

Fuck this guy sounds like a tool

Fuck u 2 geno when was ur last win 2016? Last year donít count u caught a case for that one  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on September 01, 2020, 09:28:10 PM
So he has to rip people off cause itís entertainment?

I donít think anybody signed up to get bent over

Fuck this guy sounds like a tool

Fuck u 2 geno when was ur last win 2016? Last year donít count u caught a case for that one  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Fuck you too faggot. Rumor is you like little Asian boys ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on September 01, 2020, 09:34:17 PM
Fuck you too faggot. Rumor is you like little Asian boys ngc3 ngc3

Here pigeon pigeon pigeon
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 02, 2020, 10:06:41 AM


 My & my brothers filly has already won a grassroots & also finished 3rd, she was around 18K USD. We don't take her to the fairs...
 
You Mommy must be very proud of the both of you.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on September 02, 2020, 10:31:06 AM
You Mommy must be very proud of the both of you.

  That 1/2 share of the also ran towers above those.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: AsPromised on September 02, 2020, 10:32:47 AM
Why is he apologizing for Path of Totality, he had no fuckin' intention of winning and getting out of that class, look at the drive.  Nothing wrong with staying in the same class and picking up cheques, but coming across that way in your video makes you a scumbag.
And why are you always burping in your videos!! ngc3 ngc3





Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 02, 2020, 10:36:52 AM
  That 1/2 share of the also ran towers above those.

He played the Mommy card.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 02, 2020, 11:25:30 AM


 My & my brothers filly has already won a grassroots & also finished 3rd, she was around 18K USD. We don't take her to the fairs...

 

yes but is that because she is in Ontario and there is no fair racing?
there is after all Dresden, Leamington, clinton, and their purses are about the same as fair racing - as is their attendance

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 02, 2020, 11:42:18 AM
The way I see it there is 3 parts to TheStable. Part 1.) Anthony thinks he can pick out a winner at the sales when in reality he has no clue. Part 2.) he has other trainers doing the training but most of them are fringe trainers at best and the others their time has passed. Part 3.) Anthony doing the driving nullifies any chance of a cheque because he can't drive. So if you add all of the parts together it can only end up bad for the investors. Part 2.) is 50/50 they didn't get stupid overnight so they could get lucky but they all played in the drug game and their wins from back when are tainted.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 02, 2020, 12:16:00 PM
iceman, some truth in  what you say
he really is not good at selecting yearlings based on pedigree and I just assume for the price confirmation is usually not great
in fairness his driving is not bad , he does fine at the meadows, I am not suggesting he is gingras or sears but he is not much worse than many others
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 02, 2020, 12:19:22 PM
The way I see it there is 3 parts to TheStable. Part 1.) Anthony thinks he can pick out a winner at the sales when in reality he has no clue. Part 2.) he has other trainers doing the training but most of them are fringe trainers at best and the others their time has passed. Part 3.) Anthony doing the driving nullifies any chance of a cheque because he can't drive. So if you add all of the parts together it can only end up bad for the investors. Part 2.) is 50/50 they didn't get stupid overnight so they could get lucky but they all played in the drug game and their wins from back when are tainted.

so Harry Poulton was part of the drug game with Ontheroadagain and Matts Scooter - is that your assertion ?  their records are tainted?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Bluenose on September 02, 2020, 12:28:42 PM
At the end of the day Anthony trains all of these horses in all of the stables. These guys do as they are told when to trian how to shoe and when to enter them .They are just beards for him
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 02, 2020, 02:31:36 PM
so Harry Poulton was part of the drug game with Ontheroadagain and Matts Scooter - is that your assertion ?  their records are tainted?
I did not say that but who really knows. In later years he had multiple positives and then sort of disappeared only to come back with TheStable.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 02, 2020, 04:28:12 PM
Part 2.) he has other trainers doing the training but most of them are fringe trainers at best and the others their time has passed. Part 2.) is 50/50 they didn't get stupid overnight so they could get lucky but they all played in the drug game and their wins from back when are tainted.


Apologies - I thought part 2 (the two parts of it)  suggested that - sorry

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on September 03, 2020, 05:09:24 AM
Part 2.) he has other trainers doing the training but most of them are fringe trainers at best and the others their time has passed. Part 2.) is 50/50 they didn't get stupid overnight so they could get lucky but they all played in the drug game and their wins from back when are tainted.


Apologies - I thought part 2 (the two parts of it)  suggested that - sorry
Maybe just a coincidence but Poulton firgot how to train when they started testing for soda. Always a few 50# bags around that barn
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on September 10, 2020, 07:53:45 AM
See the stable is starting to sell off a few on hoifbid and ongait.
Are they toast, has any they sold drove on?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 10, 2020, 03:37:50 PM
well according to most on here they should be buying them all
cant do anything but improve on those stable horses...right
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 10, 2020, 04:04:28 PM
What happened to all the crying experts who were counting other people's money on a daily basis? 

Maybe busy counting their own after taking a haircut this week?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on September 10, 2020, 05:02:17 PM
What happened to all the crying experts who were counting other people's money on a daily basis? 

Maybe busy counting their own after taking a haircut this week?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Any of those butt fuck Ohio backyard fairs racing through the winter?
 11.wj
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cornishcommish on September 11, 2020, 07:39:20 AM
He must be quarantiiiiiing in Ontario.....Thurs day and today , Friday, and no doubt returning to the States Sunday or Monday, and will be driving here again....with no quarantine required.

He has 13 drives at Woodbine Mohawk ,  Friday and Saturday..includi ng Ramona Hill

I thought Canada ( and the States) had strict crossing rules with respect to the COVID virus. Yannick at least crossed over 2 weeks in advance and followed the rules. But Andrew raced here mid week. He must be driving horses tied to Woodbine Management..or their close friends

My brother has been trying for 3 months  to go back to Canada to see his terminally sick cousin, and has been denied all 3 times, even though he had a copy of a negative test

I guess he should have told them he was going  back just to drive a few race horses.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 11, 2020, 08:48:47 AM
The answer to your thoughts or question is that you have no idea how powerful and influential WEG is. They run and tell SC what to do. They are in charge of Ontario Racing. And their crown is the AGCO, they control it and if they don't do as WEG instruct them to do then certain heads at AGCO that earn a huge salary for doing as their told would be out of their jobs. I have harped about this till I'm blue in the face and honestly believe that one day I will be vindicated.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: as good as earl on September 11, 2020, 09:16:57 AM
yannick did not get here 2 weeks before he drove. just goes to show you weg doesn't really care about protocall as long as you have enough money to buy your way past it
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: SportsmansP5/8 on September 11, 2020, 10:31:17 AM
I thought yannick was up there for a bit!!!! He mentioned it after an interview how the process worked in canada cane up there was interviewed sn was granted!!!!!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: as good as earl on September 11, 2020, 10:47:06 AM
yannick drove august 14 at hoosier and drove august 22 at Mohawk I don't think that's 14 days as per Ontario protocal
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: firhill on September 11, 2020, 10:54:23 AM
He must be quarantiiiiiing in Ontario.....Thurs day and today , Friday, and no doubt returning to the States Sunday or Monday, and will be driving here again....with no quarantine required.

He has 13 drives at Woodbine Mohawk ,  Friday and Saturday..includi ng Ramona Hill

I thought Canada ( and the States) had strict crossing rules with respect to the COVID virus. Yannick at least crossed over 2 weeks in advance and followed the rules. But Andrew raced here mid week. He must be driving horses tied to Woodbine Management..or their close friends

My brother has been trying for 3 months  to go back to Canada to see his terminally sick cousin, and has been denied all 3 times, even though he had a copy of a negative test

I guess he should have told them he was going  back just to drive a few race horses.

Sorry about your cousin and not being able to visit. I assume your brother is not a Canadian Citizen because they can't refuse him entry if he is.

FWIW,my experience over the last 6 months....Canada has much tougher guidelines when crossing.

US border patrol just ask the same questions they always do, Where were you/doing what/how long were you out of country/where you going now? ...and that's pretty much it. No questions re: COVID at all.

Canadian side (CBSA) is much stricter. Have to enter the customs building and be thoroughly interviewed by Health Canada officials. After getting temperature taken, instructions include drive straight to quarantine destination with no stopping to use bathroom of get fuel. Also had to describe layout of my son's house, if I would have my own bathroom and bedroom while there, what we were doing at dinner times and to avoid eating together or sitting in same room together.

Sometimes I cross just to pick up medication and come right back within the hour. Sometimes I stay at my son's overnight.

Not sure how early Yannick got to Canada but he is subject to the same restrictions and penalties covered by the Quarantine Act, Canadian Citizen or not.
As Earl said, he must have agreed to follow strict guidelines laid out for him, for Canada to let him mingle at Mohawk before his 14 days were up.






Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Minister of Weed on September 11, 2020, 11:30:00 AM
If I am working the border and a little guy (Yannick) who talks like redneck-wood elf, tells me he is quarantining in a stall within a barn. I let him through.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: eyeinthesky on September 11, 2020, 01:12:02 PM
Check out this link

Apparently Andrew HAS been following the guidelines set by Canada...NOT by WEG

This was just posted on the  Standardbred Canada site

https://standardbredcanada.ca/news/9-11-20/mccarthy-set-drive-canada.html
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 12, 2020, 11:21:51 AM


 Royhill is the one they paid $10 000 to enter the New Generation stakes?

 imagine the bill that Burps' made up for just that weekend alone, for his "clients" to handle.


 At least ol'Roy got to race, just not very good.

  They paid 10K for a filly to enter it(after the original one they had lined up for the NG stakes wasn't good enough) only to later find out she wasn't eligible.




 It'd be a little different but HIS TOP STOCK can't even compete among Grassroot level horses, all of the horses he touted all winter as killers- Burps' & his wife ruined them trying to push them WAY before they were ready on that shitty little not-even a half mile track they use.

 They would be better off using real trainers, not johnny mackinnon who is just a "yes man", his brother has the biggest head in the world, walks around with a giant head on himself, couldn't be a driver because of it.
 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Bluenose on September 12, 2020, 01:25:03 PM
Kole your right on again. Remember Anthony gave Johnny a positive test a few years ago and has come back time after time. They only want yes men as he is a control freak and tells the stables trainers what to do with their horses.They are all YES MEN and when he comes around that shit hole farm they stop everything and the Kissing Ass begins!!!!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on September 12, 2020, 02:21:12 PM
What happened to all the crying experts who were counting other people's money on a daily basis? 

Maybe busy counting their own after taking a haircut this week?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

harness hasits up and downs

most on here speak ill of Anthony

its just racing
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: AsPromised on September 12, 2020, 09:38:01 PM
so I take it no one knows what Royhill sold for and here I thought this forum knew everything

Got a full tank of gas to get to the next fair and a bag of hockey pucks for Roy!!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: SDST2009 on September 12, 2020, 10:36:47 PM
I don’t know the guy at all but I do follow the videos and horses just out of curiosity. On the topic of Royhill; anyone who has ever been around horses knows you can be around one you think has the talent but if they don’t have the will/guts to do it you’re up shits creek real quick. Can’t fault someone for that.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 12, 2020, 11:24:55 PM
Royhill must have went the way of private bailout didn't hear mention of it other then he was tired of the horse. Couple weeks back KDDO took the same path. Fair goers MO MO and Desperdo they gone on ongait.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on September 12, 2020, 11:30:19 PM
Royhill must have went the way of private bailout didn't hear mention of it other then he was tired of the horse. Couple weeks back KDDO took the same path. Fair goers MO MO and Desperdo they gone on ongait.
Oversold , they peaked qualifying day
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 13, 2020, 03:00:31 PM
SDST2009 the thing about Royhill he wasn't even a horse sold out training down. There was 35% or more before that payment was to be made for 10k for that Ohio race. AM pleaded the horse had the talent to be entered but he wasn't wanting to be the one throwing 3500 into that stake payment. Especially being May and he still had a bunch of horses and shares unsold to make stake payments. So he coaxed enough people to buy the balance of those Royhill shares. So maybe you don't know within the next 6 weeks what you have but a seasoned trainer does know what's under the hood especially on a good animal. Your putting up 10k you better dam know what's under the hood.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: The Exporter on September 13, 2020, 03:36:45 PM
Looks like a private sale to ; The Panic Stable of Il. on 9/4
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 13, 2020, 04:03:48 PM
Which was the primary owner of Swandre. So a charitable price or maybe he already owned a chunk. Big webinar tonight biggest sale for the Stable is next Friday. Probably because they were 0-fer at 2 and 3 yr olds coming back for PA, NY, NJ, IL, and IN.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Carnival People on September 14, 2020, 04:21:20 AM
yannick did not get here 2 weeks before he drove. just goes to show you weg doesn't really care about protocall as long as you have enough money to buy your way past it

These cross-country drivers  have "coyotes" who row them across lakes in Maine an New Hampshire and Vermont and they go back and forth.  No better than Mexican human traffic except it's done with money or bush planes out of quebec,  The Canadian authorities look the other way.  Passports not stamped and nobody does nothing.  Yannick is the boldest liar I have ever seen.  Also the biggest phony and I do not trust him as far as I can throw him.  He will do ANYTHING and say anything to make a buck.  The whole quarantine story is a lie 100%.  One day they will all get sick and they'll blame it on a groom sneezing in the stall.  It would be typical that harness racing is where covid started and will start again because the sport is now a disease itself.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on September 14, 2020, 01:29:38 PM
Royhill needs shoeing change and will be back on track to reaching his true potential. My not be a grand circuit horse but should make a couple hundred grand. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 14, 2020, 07:26:54 PM
Lance knows shit when the real problem is the guy in charge also knows shit. Looks like fish or cut bait, TheStable is cooked after this year and don't blame Covid.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 15, 2020, 10:26:36 AM


 My & my brothers filly has already won a grassroots & also finished 3rd,
How's your filly doing big time guy??

Mine's 8/3-1-1 $20,000


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 15, 2020, 02:52:43 PM
20k owns a half share don't spend the whole 100.00 in one place tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on September 15, 2020, 06:57:05 PM
20k owns a half share don't spend the whole 100.00 in one place tmbz1

Minus the $30 monthly fee for maintenance...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 15, 2020, 08:49:32 PM
I know was just giving the guy some hope like his hundo was going places...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 15, 2020, 10:11:54 PM
somewhere they do go in 204
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 16, 2020, 06:07:02 AM
I know was just giving the guy some hope like his hundo was going places...
How about I send you $200 so  you can get that son of yours a Dermatologist appointment?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 16, 2020, 01:00:42 PM
 ngc3 more lies full of lies but we all know that already. Don't worry you can troll my fb page in a month when he gets back on the ice for some HS hockey.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on September 19, 2020, 08:58:21 AM
9 yearlings ďpurchasedĒ Friday at the Ohio sale totalling more than $170,000.

Have the 40+ 2 year olds this year made $170,000?
 :1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 19, 2020, 11:05:20 AM
Continue to be non factors at Mohawk. Top purchase cardinal sin buying to a sibling that was their best horse in the past. Stable maybe the top stable next year with fair wins as the racing gets tougher. If they couldn't buy good stock yesterday because of price then they will get shutout as well with Ky/Oh eligible in Lexington. So will have to buy cheaper horses at the Buckeye sale.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 19, 2020, 11:11:19 AM
Continue to be non factors at Mohawk. Top purchase cardinal sin buying to a sibling that was their best horse in the past. Stable maybe the top stable next year with fair wins as the racing gets tougher. If they couldn't buy good stock yesterday because of price then they will get shutout as well with Ky/Oh eligible in Lexington. So will have to buy cheaper horses at the Buckeye sale.

LOL
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 19, 2020, 11:22:57 AM
ngc3 more lies full of lies but we all know that already. Don't worry you can troll my fb page in a month when he gets back on the ice for some HS hockey.
Lyin Jim,

It's been a while since you counted my money.

Can you count my money again? 

How's the filly doing?

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 19, 2020, 11:24:19 AM
could you please update me on how many burke purchased and the cost
also brian brown and chris beaver as well
thank you
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 19, 2020, 12:43:17 PM
The stable end of season report on all 2 and 3 yr olds out in Oct. Already worse then last year.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 19, 2020, 12:46:44 PM
Not sure but didnt Weaver say if they did well in OH and PA finals that they would be above par after losing millions during the closures a few weeks ago? So sounds like their two and 3 year olds doing well. How many sires have they created? When you do that you extend 5 to 6 years before developing another sire. But they have had many in the last few years. So I think Burke and boys are ok.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 19, 2020, 02:44:50 PM
Brown Jug since you asked and went off topic of what this thread is really about NOT counting money but the fact having a rather large stable based on entertainment and value as it gets a client or new person as a owner. Nothing wrong as it provides some sort of transparency as horses train down. But it's the double talk when horses finally get sold because its  not right to be taking that money when the horse will never perform. So 8 get sold off for many reasons when 40 more are in the same exact boat. Sorry no value at 83CDN enter point or 66US as a entry point per day for a horse. Some top trainers don't even charge 66 a day in the states and a place like the Meadows is 45 on average. A trainer in the game with their owners know when to cut the fat. You have to or the business with eat you up in a matter of time. So you named Burke and I'll throw in Takter. The top 2 spenders at most yearling sales. I can only give you what I can find and why they can still buy in bulk.

2019 earnings Burke 21,414,000 starts 4862. Ave a start 4,404. 2018 21,508,000 4699 $4577. 2017 21,096,000 4504 $4683. A average of 4550 a start gets a lot of bills paid but do they get back purchases...good question. Only answer I can give Check Six, Crazy Wow, Southwind Frank, Sweet Lou, What the Hill, and Yankee Cruiser are all syndicated studs. So pay days like this and incoming breeding rights definitely make the case as well as being 1.0mln plus earners. That's not even taking into effect the many mares and their residual value.

Takter 2018 8,616,000 653 $13,194. 2017 8,270,000 674 $ 12,270 a start. Pretty good 3 times the average with many fewer horses but again high priced animals. Does Bar Hopping, Father Patrick, Trixton, The Bank, Uncle Peter, and I'm sure I has missed some for these did he get into Always B Miki?
Beaver does well with his stock and rotates out keeping some older. Brian Brown to me came out of nowhere it seems. At least I didnt know the name a few years ago until his two pacing stars.

Point is no one is counting money and things are done differently in a big money industry with low Hope's for ROI. But it's how you treat your owners money and not contradict your statements on live video. Sure maybe people may want to spend 25 a month on 1% of a horse but owners that want out can only go to the stable to sell. Most of the time in AM words dumping shares. When that horse should go to a sale for a fair price. The stable gets away with mediocre or poor overall numbere because its freshly new. There haven't been many clients added over the last 2 years. AM had to plend with people for these upcoming sales because of so many shares going unsold on poor horses bought last year. You paint yourself into a corner not selling them early and giving clients months to watch them train for free. They are animals not machines and it's hard for a young horse to perform in groups and look good week after week. Plus training up in Ont past couple brutal winters on a small track less then a half not good on the knees, bones, and ligaments. Many injuries past two years. I like the concept of the stable but has some holes is all. Big stables they just churn alone sell what doesn't work. Then look to find something's that do.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on September 19, 2020, 03:09:26 PM


 Non factor in the Ontario Golds, Ontario Grassroots & hell- even the prospect series lol

 Zero factor in any decent stake race this year, his 3 year olds ALWAYS come back useless

 I guess they did good at a couple fairs this year, the "clients" paying for his hotel room/vehicle/gas/food to be travelling to Canada & back to Ohio all summer. Plus paying for him to go to a bunch of sales/lodging (just last year he took 3 of them to all the sales for "videos")

 Ol'Burps is having a good run for himself, fck the "clients"- they don't know nothing

 Too bad he peakes his horses for the Open houses & qualifiers, they can't ever seem to cut it, must be all the allergies that only his horses have been fighting.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 19, 2020, 03:10:31 PM
valid points
i think the concept is good but the execution has been poor
happens to all kinds of businesses
the customer ultimately  decides
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 19, 2020, 03:28:43 PM
That is true and constructive criticism never hurts and you can tell being burned last year he changed up the sales part this year. Didn't dip at the blooded sale, didn't bother with Goshen, stuck to the horses he looked at but Ohio will be a tough place to win if these new sires bring a A game. I've many many mistakes in this game and number 1 was thinking if you had a really really good horse early and many offer to sell...sell it's the only way your going to stay afloat buying yearlings. Mistake number two never get to big your having a few nice horses don't pay for all or parts of 15. With a nice career job your either going to net out paying the government or writing off losses to offset. At least that money u know where it went to your trainers and grooms. Last stay with what got you there for me trotting fillies. Pacers forget it and colts little success. Last Hambo is a dream should stay a dream lol. Paying all those stake payments like BC are a waste only helps sale price of a good horse.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 19, 2020, 04:23:52 PM
true
ohio will be challenging and dont forget more will be sold at lexington and black book
people stepping up as that program seems solid while new york, new jersey and to some extent pa are unsure what next will will bring
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 19, 2020, 04:48:07 PM
Yes I think that's why the Burke group may have spent more yesterday. Will continue to spend in home state PA while I agree NY may see some steep dropoff. People will still buy NJ for MH and new sire Walner thinking they are grand circuit anyway. The next sword to fall will be the election if Biden wins and they can grab the senate they will print money for the states. If Trump wins they will get some money but is it to plug holes now or future holes later? The economy isn't finished with future struggles in my opinion.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: coryd03 on September 19, 2020, 06:27:26 PM
business definitely good for burke stable. they spent a shade over 700k yesterday, and were the winning bidder on several high profile horses that looked outstanding. to spend that much, the plan is for the seasides and dragons to be grand circuit horses. only so much money in the OSS program to go around no matter how great it is, and that crew knows this as well. some smart business guys there.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on September 19, 2020, 06:41:40 PM
Is there upsell or finders fees on these yearlings or are shares available at purchase price?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 20, 2020, 11:09:14 AM
Wiggles - that looks like the cost roughly of what they paid for them?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 20, 2020, 12:38:40 PM
The only upcharge is for shipping to ONT and a charge to get to sale and be at the sale to get the videos out to clients. I can't find the email for the cost. The only time I bought a thoroughbred with Team Valor Barry Irwin had a 5% charge above the yearling cost or the private purchase. Don't think the stable ever did that nor currently do.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 20, 2020, 06:39:46 PM
guess delaware is not your regular ole fair
he had a BRUTAL day today
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 20, 2020, 06:47:25 PM
Only saw one the parking and 56 to the half of Compass Rose. Held 4th however
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Manny on September 22, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
Soon to be ThedefunctStable.  Man they had a horrible year.  Take the money and run Anthony.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 22, 2020, 08:25:23 PM
And Kevin McMaster is on his way out to set up his own public stable.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 22, 2020, 10:00:36 PM
that will be interesting
of course he did it before until getting ushered out
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 23, 2020, 12:06:15 PM
Hoping AM can break his couple days of whiffs at the fairgrounds. Imalovelylady has two races left to better her year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 23, 2020, 12:41:36 PM
AM was asked today at Delaware how many of his 150 horses covered their training bills this year and his answer was "not many" which is probably Pig Latin for NONE!!

well the three or so that made over $60k must have covered?? his answer seems fair and honest -
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 23, 2020, 01:18:22 PM
My Jazz wins the 4th and on the way back AM is so buzzy looking around to see if anyone is looking he runs right up the back of David Miller who was hopping off his horse. This clown is a liability and danger on the track.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 23, 2020, 02:13:31 PM
My Jazz wins the 4th and on the way back AM is so buzzy looking around to see if anyone is looking he runs right up the back of David Miller who was hopping off his horse. This clown is a liability and danger on the track.

relax pal - instead of your usual negative BS why not point out he looked over, seen the other horse on the run, left with a filly who doesnt normally cut it, wins, runs her bankroll up to circa $125k  (and basically took home $75k of $100k in purses today).
Give the guy a little credit - your comment about a liability on the track is BS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 23, 2020, 02:36:24 PM
Real doc, I think your confused it wasn't what happened at the start or during the race it happened after the race was won. I didn't see it but heard Roger talking about it when the horses finished up more toward heading back to the backside. I'm sure that is what Iceman is referring to.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 23, 2020, 03:04:54 PM
Also Real Doc, your math is off somewhat of the 106k in purses it's actually 39,500. Not 75k?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 23, 2020, 03:13:38 PM
iceman
you make some good arguments but you are grasping here
the guy had a first and second so just let it be and move on
he is bound to have the odd good day
i dont see miller off any of his drives
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 23, 2020, 03:37:57 PM
Every squirrel will find a nut with regards to a good day. But explain that to all the rest of the investors who only got the monthly bills and not a Kodak.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 23, 2020, 04:13:06 PM
Also Real Doc, your math is off somewhat of the 106k in purses it's actually 39,500. Not 75k?
probably right - there sir
I think two heats of $50k - - $37k
still not a bad day

and yes I saw him run into David afterwards - call it A.D.D. 

all good
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 23, 2020, 04:13:50 PM
iceman
you make some good arguments but you are grasping here
the guy had a first and second so just let it be and move on
he is bound to have the odd good day
i dont see miller off any of his drives

precisely
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 23, 2020, 06:31:56 PM
Like I said AGCO give McMaster a pass for previous years and he is lookin for clients. Even in his worst years he will out train AM.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 23, 2020, 06:37:23 PM
Maybe, maybe 3 made $60K so far but at the rate he charges I am not so sure that $60K covers their bills and if all you can point to is 3 out of 160 thats pretty sad. AM also said that he will have way less yearlings this year than last...wonder why? Could it be that suckers are getting wise to his scheme?

a little sarcasm, you said not one made money this year ZERO in caps - I suspect that there are more than zero you stated; two alone who raced today have, especially after today and I am sure there are more - certainly not enough and maybe way less yearlings this time around - but based on the last sale there were quite a few they bought?  I would remind you that the buyer choses whether they want a share in a horse or not; I am sure some have had positive returns as they chose correctly- so perhaps they are the ones coming back??
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 23, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
Like I said AGCO give McMaster a pass for previous years and he is lookin for clients. Even in his worst years he will out train AM.
but will he outtrain you ?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 23, 2020, 06:43:13 PM
I left the game when Robinson was winning for fun with his gassed up horses. When Kevin started in Ontario he did everything he could for his horses and then got caught up with the whole bi-carb shit because horseman he was bookkeeping and finance was not his strong suit.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Artsplace on September 23, 2020, 07:07:27 PM
My Jazz wins the 4th and on the way back AM is so buzzy looking around to see if anyone is looking he runs right up the back of David Miller who was hopping off his horse. This clown is a liability and danger on the track.

What a fuckin bitch you are. You are the lowest form  that exist and hopefully go extinct soon.🐀.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 23, 2020, 07:25:06 PM
This goes to the real doc and golfhbm referring the 3 over 60k? As of today there is just one over that number My Jazz 117,000. Next with a second today IMALOVELYLADY 38k. Next in CDN dollars Tipsy in Dixie 32k. That's of the 49 on the books and not counting the ones that sold so far. One that sold privately Lincoln Hanover after a qualifier for a profit. 2 year old only. If anyone wants to use a base for the horses that were bought last year in Sept or first week of Oct. On the track for a year and using the bottom base charge to a owner then 31k for twelve months. That doesn't count a single extra like staking, entry fees, vet bills, then the additional of paddock fees, transportation, and so on. Let's give the ONT horses a chance to earn some money with more racing ahead next 30 days. Then a recap. I'm sure Swandre will point out I have to might time on my hands. Maybe...but 2020 looking worse then the subpar 2019 two year old crop. Which didn't pan out at 3.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 23, 2020, 07:31:10 PM
Fartsplace others saw it as well and I just pointed it out. Time for you to go see the optometrist.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 23, 2020, 07:58:28 PM
horses first
you have some correct points
however if you think amac is the only one that has had a bad year do your homework
lots of owners and trainers having a bad year

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 23, 2020, 08:18:40 PM
Again Brown Jug this thread is on the stable. If anyone wants to start a thread on another I would due the same due diligence. The stable is about transparency so just being transparent. You used the word bad the numbers are saying much worse then bad. 1 so far over 100k none over 50k. There is still a we bit of racing left to improve. That's on 49 current and what 10 or so sold off? Grim! It will mean 47bto 48 will be negative purchase price and a full year of expenses. To start another year of the next six months of turnout, training, and stake payments before they have a idea what they will look like at 3. The top 3yr olds from last year Globetrotting, Comprass Rose DC, Spend that Money, and I guess Harness AM all sire stake horses. Subpar
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 23, 2020, 08:25:08 PM
I will admit I could be wrong but where did I use the word zero in Caps?
 I think he bought 9 at the sale but it was his words, not mine, that there will be far less yearlings this year. Also, if you listen to his videos he is asking people to commit money upfront this year before he buys yearlings. I know for a fact that the reason he did that is that he told a friend of mine who is an investor that he cannot be on the hook for shares unsold so he needs to know how big his pot is  which will be much much smaller than in past years.
AM was asked today at Delaware how many of his 150 horses covered their training bills this year and his answer was "not many" which is probably Pig Latin for NONE!!

Sorry, you said NONE not ZERO -  think they are the same. Anyway, moving on

As to him asking for commitment - I would have to agree - who goes to a sale (especially now) and risks having all those shares unspoken for -  I would think almost all buyers go to a sale knowing what they have to spend or what's committed to and not buying and hoping to sell??   The question is, did your friend the investor come back for more this year or move on?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 23, 2020, 08:41:50 PM
Brown Jug yes Cassi Coleman probably having a worse year. Had some monsters during the qualifiers and then soon disappeared. Nick Surick and Rene Allard having worse years then anyone with possible jail time and NO chance of training again. So buy those standards it could be worse?? I'm not sure what Erv and Andy sent out this year around the country but it's possible for some reasons their two year olds maybe subpar as well.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on September 23, 2020, 09:51:14 PM
well the three or so that made over $60k must have covered?? his answer seems fair and honest -

Donít forget acquisition costs the horses werenít free
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: SDST2009 on September 23, 2020, 11:19:47 PM
I guess I continue to fail to see the problem here.

It's patently obvious these most of these horses do not make anyone any money. In fact, only a few do. My Jazz looks to be one; the other filly that was 2nd today seems to be holding her own; he has a couple other ones that have won some Grassroots in Ontario, looks like the Delaware filly is going to be ok in her division.

Look, I'm speaking from someone who has 1 or 2 that we would love to see make some money, but just love being in the game. I don't understand the vitriol here. We are in the business hoping to make some money but not relying on it because it's something that we like to follow and love having a little skin in the game. I highly doubt, and sincerely hope, no one buying into TheStable.ca are putting their last damn dollar on this. Do you see anyone else in the industry stepping up to encourage other ownership?  Sure, I could contact the Takters or the Svanstedts and see how I could get into the business but I better have about $500K of disposable income to do so. What is the harm in letting the average person own a piece of a racehorse a) that isn't bankrupting them and b) is entertaining as shit no matter what happens, a problem?

Let me also state I have never had a horse with the Stable, but my family's been in the business for 40+ years as a hobby owner.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 24, 2020, 01:57:58 PM
I guess I continue to fail to see the problem here.

It's patently obvious these most of these horses do not make anyone any money. In fact, only a few do. My Jazz looks to be one; the other filly that was 2nd today seems to be holding her own; he has a couple other ones that have won some Grassroots in Ontario, looks like the Delaware filly is going to be ok in her division.

Look, I'm speaking from someone who has 1 or 2 that we would love to see make some money, but just love being in the game. I don't understand the vitriol here. We are in the business hoping to make some money but not relying on it because it's something that we like to follow and love having a little skin in the game. I highly doubt, and sincerely hope, no one buying into TheStable.ca are putting their last damn dollar on this. Do you see anyone else in the industry stepping up to encourage other ownership?  Sure, I could contact the Takters or the Svanstedts and see how I could get into the business but I better have about $500K of disposable income to do so. What is the harm in letting the average person own a piece of a racehorse a) that isn't bankrupting them and b) is entertaining as shit no matter what happens, a problem?

Let me also state I have never had a horse with the Stable, but my family's been in the business for 40+ years as a hobby owner.
Good post.

You won't get any cogent response from these people who - for 55 of 73 pages of this thread - have done the following:

1.  Counted other peoples money
2.  Denigrated MacDonald
3.  Attacked people, including me, who disagreed with their venomous posts
4.  Shut the Fuck Up like cowards when Calhoun's filly started winning.
5.  Went back to attacking MacDonald and counting Calhoun's money.

These people are flat out jealous that fans can get a piece of a horse for a modest cost and enjoy that experience without the massive EV Loss they endure.

It's not dissimilar from the hatred they have for the big winning stables.  They can't compete but wont admit it and call every successful person a cheat.

Fuck 'em.

No less than 4,500 people own a share of Authentic, the Kentucky Derby winner.
 
Any argument that claims that is anything but good for the sport is fucking retarded so you won't hear a word. So fucking what if the share percentage is minuscule and the valuation is ridiculous.  It's the experience being sold, not the microscopic chance at making big money.

Lyin' Cryin' Jim and his barbarian horde of attack dogs claim you must have "serious skin in the game" to have a valid opinion.

Fuck them.

After MacDonald's first year, 76 out of 78 came back for more in year 2.

His only problem is his horses are slow and he's just not very good. Big fucking deal.



Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on September 24, 2020, 02:03:08 PM
LOTS OF ADVERSTING BY THE  STABLE ON ,JUG TELECAST TODAY

INVEST NOTHIN WIN BIG

TRUSTWORTHY ..

NO SURPRISES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

HES GOOD HES VERY GOOD  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on September 24, 2020, 02:17:56 PM
LOTS OF ADVERSTING BY THE  STABLE ON ,JUG TELECAST TODAY

INVEST NOTHIN WIN BIG

TRUSTWORTHY ..

NO SURPRISES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

HES GOOD HES VERY GOOD  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Is the advertising free?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on September 24, 2020, 02:37:21 PM
LOTS OF ADVERSTING BY THE  STABLE ON ,JUG TELECAST TODAY

INVEST NOTHIN WIN BIG

TRUSTWORTHY ..

NO SURPRISES ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

HES GOOD HES VERY GOOD  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
It's $26/month + ~$8/month forshipping/incidentals.

or, about $1.12 a day. 

 tmbz1 tmbz1

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 24, 2020, 02:43:46 PM
Poon or Mr 1/2% woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning  ngc3. A little piss and vinegar in hi s step or touched a angry trigger? Nobody has or at least I haven't condemned the theory of the stable. On many occasions am a fan of it. But there are faults and that is what the thread is about minus the Purple dude early on...has he been banned by the way? Poon you could have cheered on my stable horse who was second yesterday? People like to go on a ride just don't want to be taken for a ride and I believe that has been the discussion and the past 2 years of bad horses purchased and continued kept...where is the entertainment value in that? AM will preach the entertainment but also knows the stable has to perform at some point because once the value angle is played out and stale there is nothing left. Maybe there shows over 800 clients but shares of 20 horses in May/June go unsold for 8-10 months that doesn't bode well. It's been a adult conversation between posters until a guy like you pops in and goes off with the vile language and garbage you spread on the plop site.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on September 24, 2020, 04:26:01 PM
I loved the plug they gave AMac after the 5th at Delaware today. Last line was go to ďMystable.caĒ
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kirby's Ace on September 24, 2020, 06:15:58 PM
It's $26/month + ~$8/month forshipping/incidentals.

or, about $1.12 a day. 

 tmbz1 tmbz1

I wished it was that cheap..Your not including the HST fee added per month and that amount varies per horse.

$20 to $100 and maybe more per 1 percent.

It cost me around 100 dollars per month for 1 percent. But still cheap to be in the game!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on September 24, 2020, 06:34:35 PM
I wished it was that cheap..Your not including the HST fee added per month and that amount varies per horse.

$20 to $100 and maybe more per 1 percent.

It cost me around 100 dollars per month for 1 percent. But still cheap to be in the game!
If HST wasnít 13% you should file a complaint. It doesnít vary
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kirby's Ace on September 24, 2020, 06:51:25 PM
It is 13%. But the 13% is based on your 1 percent purchase for each horse. The higher the price you pay the higher the amount due is. But its based on 13%.


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kirby's Ace on September 24, 2020, 07:14:34 PM
I should mention the HST is the Canadian sales tax, You can apply to have it refunded back to you if you live in the USA.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on September 24, 2020, 09:01:09 PM
I wished it was that cheap..Your not including the HST fee added per month and that amount varies per horse.

$20 to $100 and maybe more per 1 percent.

It cost me around 100 dollars per month for 1 percent. But still cheap to be in the game!
Are you saying some months the bills are $10,000 on one horse, thus$100 for your 1%?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 24, 2020, 10:10:35 PM
for gods sake why dont some of you go buy1% of one of the horses he just bought and then you will be on the inside and can figure it all out  and report accurately
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Manny on September 24, 2020, 10:33:03 PM
They have to be raping the owners.  Ads like crazy on the races from Delaware this past week.  Sounds like a fun thing for the wanna be owners and quite lucrative to the operators.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 25, 2020, 04:01:34 PM
its called marketing /promotions
most  successful companies have a budget for it
you know coke, apple , it seems to work
 let people know about your product and maybe some will buy it
hmmm
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Hung Every Step on September 28, 2020, 06:26:50 PM
Watch this idiot in the 9th at the Meadows today
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 28, 2020, 06:33:02 PM
Exactly I can't believe this guy has any investors. Can't train, can't drive yet he is all about being the big shot. Talk about ego.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on September 28, 2020, 06:53:11 PM
Exactly I can't believe this guy has any investors. Can't train, can't drive yet he is all about being the big shot. Talk about ego.
The guy could sell sand in the desert , great talker
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 28, 2020, 07:12:48 PM
His scam is coming to an end. Don't believe it then just watch where the track has video in the paddock like WEG shows. Other drivers and trainers walk the other way because they know he makes them all look like scam artists.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on September 28, 2020, 07:17:12 PM
His scam is coming to an end. Don't believe it then just watch where the track has video in the paddock like WEG shows. Other drivers and trainers walk the other way because they know he makes them all look like scam artists.

You guys keep saying that but it's business as usual.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 28, 2020, 07:34:35 PM
Well cheap Rum here are facts and try and dispute them. WEG runs everything including SC and Ontario Racing and controls just what the AGCO can do. They promoted the hell out of TheStable and as long as AM has investors then in their mind it's good for racing despite how much they investors lose. But they don't promote as much because AM is big on Ohio breds and why is he in OOOHAHAIO because it is a haven for cheats and if he has that many OOOHAHAIO breds it's good for them. It all will blow up, trust me.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on September 28, 2020, 07:36:26 PM
Well cheap Rum here are facts and try and dispute them. WEG runs everything including SC and Ontario Racing and controls just what the AGCO can do. They promoted the hell out of TheStable and as long as AM has investors then in their mind it's good for racing despite how much they investors lose. But they don't promote as much because AM is big on Ohio breds and why is he in OOOHAHAIO because it is a haven for cheats and if he has that many OOOHAHAIO breds it's good for them. It all will blow up, trust me.

CHEAP RUM... ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 28, 2020, 07:58:44 PM
Watch this idiot in the 9th at the Meadows today
kind of looked like driver in front of him throws his head/helmet back and hits the horse ( looks like ) and they were backing it down pretty good there
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 28, 2020, 08:07:09 PM
This ass has no right to even have the lines in his hands. There has been many a bad driver but this ass has got to be the worst. Again he can't tell a good horse from a bum at the sales, can't train and can't drive.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 28, 2020, 08:15:43 PM
This ass has no right to even have the lines in his hands. There has been many a bad driver but this ass has got to be the worst. Again he can't tell a good horse from a bum at the sales, can't train and can't drive.

I think he has won like 3000 races or something like that - how about you? 
And who's the greatest ever yearling you personally picked out and won  anything with? 


Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on September 28, 2020, 08:23:04 PM
This isn't about me and I never professed to be a driver but cheap or expensive yearling I would never hand this jerk the lines, ever. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on September 28, 2020, 08:25:50 PM
Emerald Miss group a three year old buy for 21k in 18 managed just 10k went into the hoofbid sale in August. The stable wasn't going to give her a away and bought her back for 7300. could have been cut loose for 7200. Raced a few mores times without a check and sells this weekend on ongait for 4900. So minus out a month of training bills the owners got a lesson on a bad horse is exactly that and whatever you believe the value is the market will tell you at a cheaper price. instead of 7200 they net 1000 or less?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on September 28, 2020, 09:06:40 PM
Emerald Miss group a three year old buy for 21k in 18 managed just 10k went into the hoofbid sale in August. The stable wasn't going to give her a away and bought her back for 7300. could have been cut loose for 7200. Raced a few mores times without a check and sells this weekend on ongait for 4900. So minus out a month of training bills the owners got a lesson on a bad horse is exactly that and whatever you believe the value is the market will tell you at a cheaper price. instead of 7200 they net 1000 or less?

true but you claim one for $20k, a month later cant get it going and put it in for $10k - it happens
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on September 28, 2020, 09:30:43 PM
true but you claim one for $20k, a month later cant get it going and put it in for $10k - it happens

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Sure thing bud
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on September 28, 2020, 09:55:07 PM
how about mcarthys drive in he shes a great lady
cost possibly 2 horses a cheque
could have injured 2-4 horses
could have badly injured any number of drivers
i have seen stock care races with less contact
but you feel to ramble about a possible interference and how outrageous it was
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on September 28, 2020, 11:02:42 PM
how about mcarthys drive in he shes a great lady
cost possibly 2 horses a cheque
could have injured 2-4 horses
could have badly injured any number of drivers
i have seen stock care races with less contact
but you feel to ramble about a possible interference and how outrageous it was

1st placed 9th going for $455,000

getting tossed in an overnight at the meadows is more egregious apparently 😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on October 06, 2020, 09:17:28 AM
Just one purchase on day 1 of the Lexington sale
$45k U.S.
Whoís footing the bill for the next 6 days?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on October 06, 2020, 09:42:06 AM
Just one purchase on day 1 of the Lexington sale
$45k U.S.
Whoís footing the bill for the next 6 days?

Apparently you can't read.  She was 32k usd
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on October 06, 2020, 11:01:35 AM
Just one purchase on day 1 of the Lexington sale
$45k U.S.
Whoís footing the bill for the next 6 days?
dont understand your concern - its a 5 day sale and their business/client model doesnt call for buying horses like Maverick for $1M - so their target group comes up in the next 4 days (not sure about the 6) -
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on October 06, 2020, 11:02:30 AM
Wonít be 45k till he starts selling shares
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 06, 2020, 12:17:16 PM
 ngc3 ngc3
Wonít be 45k till he starts selling shares
ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on October 06, 2020, 01:03:11 PM
Ok only $44,500. I
Can get 32k US from my bank for 41,600. What is other 3k for and donít tell me tax share prices say plus tax. If he is paying 3k to get one from Lex to Canada I want to be his shipper
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 06, 2020, 01:50:23 PM
i race into am

hes a nice guy
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 06, 2020, 02:12:11 PM
Ok only $44,500. I
Can get 32k US from my bank for 41,600. What is other 3k for and donít tell me tax share prices say plus tax. If he is paying 3k to get one from Lex to Canada I want to be his shipper
The difference in price is his expertise in choosing the horse is now priced in.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on October 07, 2020, 12:56:46 PM
Only $445.16 Canadian per share
Plus $57.87 Canadian GST
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 07, 2020, 04:09:03 PM
i race into am

hes a nice guy

You ran into his kneecap
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on October 07, 2020, 05:45:48 PM
You ran into his kneecap

  You just earned a fat joke.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 07, 2020, 05:53:40 PM
If you were wearing your mask and AM was wearing his from down there how could you tell it was AM all you could see is his eyes.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 07, 2020, 06:22:19 PM
Ok only $44,500. I
Can get 32k US from my bank for 41,600. What is other 3k for and donít tell me tax share prices say plus tax. If he is paying 3k to get one from Lex to Canada I want to be his shipper
Is there a scouting or buying fee, the commentary videos fee?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 07, 2020, 07:08:26 PM
If you were wearing your mask and AM was wearing his from down there how could you tell it was AM all you could see is his eyes.

I knew him  met him few years ago

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: MR.DALRAE on October 07, 2020, 07:24:26 PM
Was he wearing mass then
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 08, 2020, 12:00:21 AM
Well Amish not wearing the mask they must have a exemption? Many had mask most didn't bother wearing. Sale looks like it will be down 25-27% from day 3 a year ago. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on October 09, 2020, 07:38:10 AM
Well Amish not wearing the mask they must have a exemption? Many had mask most didn't bother wearing. Sale looks like it will be down 25-27% from day 3 a year ago.
Amish immune to the virus. They donít watch mainstream media
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Crash on October 09, 2020, 08:00:21 AM
From someone who has lost a few friends to this virus you are a real POS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on October 09, 2020, 08:08:19 AM
Only $445.16 Canadian per share
Plus $57.87 Canadian GST

This is a steal, it's like buying Apple stock at $2.50. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 09, 2020, 08:59:07 AM
Not spending as much as previous years. I guess when all his offshore money decided to pack it in and left put a crimp in his spending.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 09, 2020, 10:15:04 AM
which 'offshore" region are you referring to
 just curious
thanks
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on October 09, 2020, 10:17:52 AM
Stable.ca made some very astute purchases....inve rters should expect hefty returns next summer. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 09, 2020, 10:53:46 AM
which 'offshore" region are you referring to
 just curious
thanks
Down Under and England
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 09, 2020, 11:02:53 AM
Stable.ca made some very astute purchases....inve rters should expect hefty returns next summer.
Whats an inverter?  Is that like a backwards atm
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 09, 2020, 11:16:50 AM
The purchases this year tells the story of the uncertain future of this scam. Sure he might sell shares to some of the investors he already has but as for new blood forget it. You can drive by TheStable on any given day and any given time and you will see nothing. The only time is when he does one of his everything is great here at TheStable videos.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 09, 2020, 11:17:27 AM
Crash not sure who you were referring to just reported what I saw. By the way 25 people turned away that have been walking the grounds since Saturday with temps higher then 99.5. Farm I was hanging at had started there contact tracing list. So as I stated there wasn't much for social distancing and mask wearing. See if anything unfolds?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on October 09, 2020, 11:39:56 AM
The purchases this year tells the story of the uncertain future of this scam. Sure he might sell shares to some of the investors he already has but as for new blood forget it. You can drive by TheStable on any given day and any given time and you will see nothing. The only time is when he does one of his everything is great here at TheStable videos.

you have great insider knowledge of this operation - apparently you know directly or indirectly the "offshore" investors, you have direct knowledge of what is going on at the barn and when, and I don't think anyone is spending as much as previous years, not just those associated with this operation -  That hard-on you have for the guy and operation continually shine through -

On a side note - why are all the Cantab Halls going so cheap at this sale - I think the stud fee is like $15k alone?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 09, 2020, 01:05:46 PM
Doc, McMaster approached me some time ago and said he was going to hang up his shingle again if he could get some people to put horses with him again. So I guess you could call that inside info. As for having a hard on for the guy, sure the guy is scum plain and simple.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on October 09, 2020, 05:16:35 PM
From someone who has lost a few friends to this virus you are a real POS
Sorry for your loses   But quick question how many were in the .3 percent that didnít already have 2+ Co morbidity?  That is from CDC by the way
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 09, 2020, 06:04:07 PM
Sorry for your loses   But quick question how many were in the .3 percent that didnít already have 2+ Co morbidity?  That is from CDC by the way
Bullshit.

The AVERAGE number of co-morbidities is 2.6,

6% of deaths have 0 co-morbidities.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kirby's Ace on October 09, 2020, 06:12:11 PM
you have great insider knowledge of this operation - apparently you know directly or indirectly the "offshore" investors, you have direct knowledge of what is going on at the barn and when, and I don't think anyone is spending as much as previous years, not just those associated with this operation -  That hard-on you have for the guy and operation continually shine through -

On a side note - why are all the Cantab Halls going so cheap at this sale - I think the stud fee is like $15k alone?

There's always one know it all mother F-er in every group! Why should this place be any different?
 tmbz1

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on October 12, 2020, 08:37:01 PM



 We have an algorithm running to track the winnings of theStable horses, it'll be fun to see at the end of the year.

 Id imagine that 93% of Anthonys horses this year did not make enough $ back to cover their vet/training bills/stake payments, let alone the owners making a cent back.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 12, 2020, 08:51:26 PM
Kole that will be interesting to see what you come up with at seasons end. Then asswipes like Kirby's Ace, Ace in his own mind will  43z.stf
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 12, 2020, 09:23:59 PM
kole , you will be correct
its easy math, assume $3,500 for monthly training and incidentals for 8 months before they even think of qualifying , so call it $28,000 cdn, staking should be minor for 90% based on their cost ( hence pedigree and confirmation or lack of) but lets ad $2,000 so call it $30,000 not including original purchase
might be 3 or 4 of the two yr olds that make that this year
many already dumped and some very average ones going to be carried over for a 3 yr old season
i have nothing against the stable or amac but just follow the numbers and if watching your horse be average at best is worth that in entertainment than to each their own
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 12, 2020, 11:04:18 PM
Before you even start adding all those things in mentioned above here is a fractional ownership nightmare that doesn't work in the favor of a small owner. Take example A..a three year with 8 starts and 10k made. Couldn't compete in Ont which needed a license. Then to IL. Then to OH. Then to its state jurisdiction NJ for a stake race and if 1st time owner along with license you need finger prints. 1 stake race and done. Off to PA where you need a 3yr license and that's 120. So that 10k minus 10% your at 9000.00 at 5% your take is 450. Yet to race over those 5 jurisdiction is roughly 350.00. Add in it wasn't free to get to those tracks you have transport cost so your in the hole even with 10k on the card and still haven't added a dime from everything mentioned above. Not a fault of the stable just part of the system rigged against small owners of a fractional outfit.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on October 12, 2020, 11:37:34 PM
Before you even start adding all those things in mentioned above here is a fractional ownership nightmare that doesn't work in the favor of a small owner. Take example A..a three year with 8 starts and 10k made. Couldn't compete in Ont which needed a license. Then to IL. Then to OH. Then to its state jurisdiction NJ for a stake race and if 1st time owner along with license you need finger prints. 1 stake race and done. Off to PA where you need a 3yr license and that's 120. So that 10k minus 10% your at 9000.00 at 5% your take is 450. Yet to race over those 5 jurisdiction is roughly 350.00. Add in it wasn't free to get to those tracks you have transport cost so your in the hole even with 10k on the card and still haven't added a dime from everything mentioned above. Not a fault of the stable just part of the system rigged against small owners of a fractional outfit.

very valid - the licensing is not in favour of any small owner at all - your example is very good. I think a few states dont require a license if under 5% of the horse, yet others want DNA samples plus money.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 12, 2020, 11:46:54 PM
Yes your right there are a few and NY is one of the worse for fractional ownership. Also states aren't sharing prints so first year in IN need prints, if you go to NJ yep prints, if five years end up in any other state that same year...yep more prints for a another state. I know it's for the FBI background checks but beyond ridiculous.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 13, 2020, 11:40:54 AM
the travel schedule for the horse noted would be fine and expected for a grand circuit horse not for an overnight horse who has made $10 k
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 13, 2020, 11:47:34 AM
the travel schedule for the horse noted would be fine and expected for a grand circuit horse not for an overnight horse who has made $10 k

TRAVEL EXPENSE MORE THAN VALUE OF HORSE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on October 13, 2020, 11:56:26 AM
Stable.Ca made some very astute purchases, look for a big year from TheStable this year. I'd say get in now while you can.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 13, 2020, 12:09:02 PM
some details please
which horses are you specifically referring to
sale was down about 15% so  you need to compare to other horses sold at this sale to determine who got the best deals
 sorry to say but value is not always cheap
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on October 13, 2020, 07:29:15 PM
Stable.Ca made some very astute purchases, look for a big year from TheStable this year. I'd say get in now while you can.
Put your money where youíre mouth is. Post purchases and percentages here. We will see how smart you are next year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 15, 2020, 02:43:55 PM
they were the number 1 purchaser at Lexington .... head count of 18
avg cost per about $18,000 at the sale that averaged about $50,000 per horse
so you know what you are getting if you buy in
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 15, 2020, 05:29:02 PM
It may show they were the number one purchaser but that doesn't mean Tony buying 11 but also bought another 8 as a agent. Burke bought 15 but one of his primary owners Donovan bought 6 that all may end up with Burke. Or Takter purchases but a guy like Jom Glass is a agent for prominent ownere in Canada which use his farm for broodmare to be KY eligible and those yearlings will be Takter trainees. To the other point 18k average and what your buying into I like 1160 posts later sums it up.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 15, 2020, 05:51:19 PM
Horses first?
What do you have about the stable that you are so against it?
The stable bought 17/18 horses cheap so what, he looked for value thatís been done before. You seem to just want to bash the concept??????? Who cares he buys horses and people buy shares, thatís the concept so they donít all make $$$$$$$ so what, entertainment only he tells you that! Once in awhile one makes good e.g. swandre. At least he buys horses, you canít race them unless you buy them and they donít know what they cost. Some of the best were bought on the cheap end. He runs a stable that some people enjoy being part of, if they didnít they wouldnít buy shares but they do.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 15, 2020, 06:03:47 PM
Horses first?
What do you have about the stable that you are so against it?
The stable bought 17/18 horses cheap so what, he looked for value thatís been done before. You seem to just want to bash the concept??????? Who cares he buys horses and people buy shares, thatís the concept so they donít all make $$$$$$$ so what, entertainment only he tells you that! Once in awhile one makes good e.g. swandre. At least he buys horses, you canít race them unless you buy them and they donít know what they cost. Some of the best were bought on the cheap end. He runs a stable that some people enjoy being part of, if they didnít they wouldnít buy shares but they do.
That Lyin' Jim guy just hates that people can spend a thousand bucks and have fun in ownership. 

He'll tell you he's an expert but doesn't know  the difference between Average and Median sales price.

But he's good at counting other people's money. The best, in fact.

 tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 15, 2020, 06:05:14 PM
And your the best in spreading BS tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 15, 2020, 06:30:17 PM
so my point really was that they bought well below the sale average and median
the sale was down about 15% so maybe the time to step up and buy a few decent ones in the $40-$50 range, many well bred ones went in that range but they just bought more cheap ones
sure one or two might work out but clearly the odds are against it
in other words if you buy in have realistic expectations based on what you are buying compared to what they have to race against

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 15, 2020, 06:55:13 PM
Cigar...once again thanks for following. I don't bash the concept if your buying cheap horses and they stay cheap horses no reason to allow the owners to dump shares for pennies and no reason to string them along when the horse can't provide the entertainment it was bought to provide. It's not like horse racing is cheap and that the stable is cheap at a 66 US dollar a day rate. He always says he treats the clients money like it is his money...really?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on October 15, 2020, 07:36:19 PM
When is everyone going to understand that AM has NO interest in quality, only quantity. The more he has the more he gets to bill and the more he makes, its that simple.
Also, he said that Spent (a Swan For All colt) was worth $40,000 but he bought him for $11,000. Hey AM or any of his lackies, evidently no one else at the sale (of which 98% are smarter than AM) thought he was worth $12,000. He may be proven right next year but  given his track record in selecting yearlings I am betting not

No way he would have spent 40k on him.  Erv did take a piece of him so someone else thought he was worth 11. lol
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 15, 2020, 08:26:01 PM
This whole thing with AM is a joke and the joke is all on the investors. Those who are promoting this scam only deepens the black eye.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on October 15, 2020, 08:58:40 PM
Never said you did.  Was stating he really doesn't believe the value he states they have as he never pays close to what he says.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on October 15, 2020, 09:27:10 PM
100 percent believe it is to drive up demand.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 15, 2020, 10:05:36 PM
Buying yearlings your going to look at dozens even if your going to buy 1 or 2. If your buying 20 you may look at 100. Your going to put that list together once you watch video, for me having pedigree analysis sent off, then the trainer inspection. After the inspection you value everything from where the horse was placed in sale, where the horse was raised, and a mirror of other things. # of foals, age of mare, and so on. You will have your favorites which will be many others favorites and those will sell higher then your best high guess. If you truly think the horse doesn't have many flaws and pages look good odds on that horse is going home with someone else. If you like some individuals and they toe in or toe out you will place a discount. There are a lot of factors and yes whether AM puts a too high or too low of a price well eye of the beholder. However AM...these are his words for years he knows very little about pedigree and for sure very little on crosses. He does have some clients that make up for that however. He is more about the page, the black type, and as many know buying yearlings based off full brothers and full sisters is a recipe for disaster. Same with buying new sires that is a tough one if it's not the premier new studs. Would rather do the homework and find the right blood on a 1st foal and tract the bottom maternal side all the way to the foundation mare. There was a trotter I loved at the Jug sale traced back to Midnight who had thoroughbred parents and they traced back to 1790. Will follow, a good trainer bought the horse so will be interested on how the horse turns out. Not in love with the sire but that may not matter. Price was higher then the value I had. So that's why we put values on and whether AM is too high or too low it's in his observation probably more on the individual itself?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on October 15, 2020, 10:21:39 PM
What was your price you set on your Lexington purchase? Was it your number 1 choice or the only one that fell below your number. 

This is where I really question am numbers. He gets way too many under his number and let's top picks go for a few bids more.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: coryd03 on October 15, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
What was your price you set on your Lexington purchase? Was it your number 1 choice or the only one that fell below your number. 

This is where I really question am numbers. He gets way too many under his number and let's top picks go for a few bids more.

buying yearlings simply because they fall into your budget is the biggest disaster purchase you can make. as stated above, you need to have a good size list with a top group. stick to that top group, and buy from it.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 15, 2020, 11:01:33 PM
WW, I've been scaling out for a couple years. Had a couple broodmares die last year and sold off a couple others. I wasn't shopping at Lexington, did like a UP colt that went for 42k, and that was a shade higher then I thought. I would have past on him. While 815 I would have priced much higher on and went for 15k. Never did look at the horse itself based on pedigree so not sure what happened there and as Coryd03 mentions a possible disaster if I thought I was getting 50% value. I do like a filly trotter first foal at Hanover but going to pass. Have one home bred yearling that will get trained down and see how it goes. Trying to get the twelve years of racing blood out of my system lol.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on October 15, 2020, 11:17:36 PM
Good luck with the homebred and hopefully won't be racing against me. Sorry for your loss of the mares. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 15, 2020, 11:50:50 PM
Thanks. You the same.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 16, 2020, 07:28:09 AM
Horses first
Pedigree pages donít tell you how fast they are only how fast their mom and dad and siblings are!
Confirmation tells you have a less likely chance of problems training down.
Hereís a clue never buy babies thinking they are stake material unless you are gonna spend big money to get the above two things, and those go for big $$$$$$.
Plenty of cheaper ones with toes pointing out and less expensive make more $$$$ as racehorses.
If you are buying babies itís a numbers game buy more tickets and hope a few of the tickets have the winning numbers itís the biggest gamble in racing.
There are plenty of horses that make good $$$$$ that were bought under 10k
over the years, they are just not stake material at 2 and 3. They are however good raceway horses that make a profit.
You can argue with me all you want but your wrong!!!!!!!!!
Big stables buy the best bred best looking babies in quantities because they donít even know which ones are the golden ticket.
So people buy cheaper ones and get that golden ticket also, itís called luck!!!!
If you want to play the baby game with the big boys you have to:
1. Spend and buy in quantities
2. Hope your luck is good and they get trained down the right way
Remember that horse foiled again? Well he made the most $$$$ and raced the longest, and I believe he wasnít a stake horse at 2 or 3.
There are plenty of those out there.
So save your $$$$$ on the toilet paper you buy for pedigree
Give me a toed out knee knocker that has heart for 2500 instead I can put spreaders and knee boots on him!

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 16, 2020, 08:14:05 AM
In all my years I never went to the sales searching for a home run I went for a race horse that I could develop into a steady earner. In all those years some came close and nothing was an expensive yearling and if I had to average out all the yearlings what I spent was 15k for each. I like to watch when the babies first start and as the season moves along and the trainers frustrations start to get to him then when winter is coming I will approach him with a price to relieve him of some of his winter bills. More times than not they bite and I have a horse, cheap.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on October 16, 2020, 09:42:08 AM
When is everyone going to understand that AM has NO interest in quality, only quantity. The more he has the more he gets to bill and the more he makes, its that simple.
Also, he said that Spent (a Swan For All colt) was worth $40,000 but he bought him for $11,000. Hey AM or any of his lackies, evidently no one else at the sale (of which 98% are smarter than AM) thought he was worth $12,000. He may be proven right next year but  given his track record in selecting yearlings I am betting not


Globetrotting - $21,000
Yes - $16,000
Oh So Pine - $13,000
Lawmaker - $20,000
My Jazz - $6500
White Tiger - $20,000

some of you complain it cost too much but some of you complain they donít spend enough on yearlings, so which is it?

you economic experts are still sitting on your couches with your hand on your horn and he has another shedrow full of yearlings 😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 11:00:36 AM
Swandre, being a north of the border homer of the stable you continue to make the case that AM for some reason can't pick out horses. You pick 6 horses, one a two yr old My Jazz, a 3 yr old Globetrotting, and 4 others that are 4 and 5. So 2019 Stable had 60 plus yearlings, 2018 I think it was over 70 could have been 72ish, and before that not sure. So lets assume 175 yearlings over the last 3 buying cycles and yes the freshmen class will have a chance at 3 if stake worthy to advance in earnings. You just gave a 3% example giving your money to AM to go sale to sale look at hundreds of horses. To come back with a large number saying that buying value or his approach, to say give me your money, and charge you 66 US or 88 CDN a day at a minimum. That at 3% shot at best you can own one of those 6 type of horses? Which all those shares probably weren't available any way because the stable itself owns shares of Globetrotting, Lawmaker, and White Tiger. I think AM may fire you as his spokesman because your making the case way this thread exist. Poor horse buying while keeping 3 and 4 yr old horses that can't cover the basic coverage and while a large number are still nw 1, 2, or 3 racing at tracks that offer small purses. His client numbers have stalled in this 800 area for over 2 years and one has to wonder with all those horses that didn't sell last year that how many are really active? So yes another shedrow of broken dreams and high bills for newbie clients that question more and more why the horses don't perform.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 11:54:33 AM
Cigar as usual so wrong!!! Pedigree pages are a form of history and a good way to start the process of elimination...esp ecially for those who buy smaller samples of horses and not your theory of buying more and hope a few tickets hit. Why is that? Well number one sometimes the tickets you sign at a yearling sale like 10k, 15k or 20k will be the cheapest check you write over the longer haul. Not everyone can buy babies in bulk you idiot and to say buy 10 and hope 2 workout because that at best is the ratio. Your monthly bills will set you back ever before that lottery ticket may come in.

Pedigree page is a history guide to crosses and blood matching if you have a service. The approach of breeding the best to the best is a junk process that was old school. I have looked at many yearlings that had no affinity from mare to sire and those have always been a auto toss. If you can't get it right in the breeding shed it's not going to transfer to the track. Then you have your crosses and over time golden crosses. Reasons why decades ago many looked for Lindy Lane, Donerrail, American Winner to name a few on the broodmare side. These days Muscle Yankee, Conway Hall, Yankee Glide, and Angus Hall as broodmare sires. Muscle Hill now having enough mares out there will draw the same. One can use this as a base that gives the buyer on this aspect a better % at making it on the track. You come across sire and dams that don't cross well for whatever reason and the list can be long but the sample size is big enough to be a failure, its a why bother and a risk. Again a auto toss. Nobody is arguing the fact that cheaper horses can't make money? I have always put a price on trotters 25k or less can net you good results with making it in the states sire programs which offer enough money.

To your point people who have the most money... those are the ones looking to buy the next sire that gives them buying potential for years to come. That is the game they play and that's why there are 4 or more partners to a horse these days because they can afford to buy and spread into more horses. Your wrong again, as they do there work and analysis as they go to the farms 4 and 5 months before the sales a few times to look at the yearlings. You think the Takter group goes to a sale and doesn't do the work? Tony A visits farms many times a year before a sale. You couldn't be so wrong on that statement. Yes they are also buying on what they believe is a good individual, very few flaws, and a racy looking horse. That at times trumps pedigree or may play the more important role of $$$.

Heart...one of the few things you can't measure in a horse at the yearling sales. Buying those toed out or in at a sale one would make the determination if it's bad enough that they won't hit. Does the video show but that video is in a field in a casual trot. You don't know on those horse types when the horse ends up hitting if that horse has heart to fight through issues in a race. Your a claiming guy with older raceway horses at that by point the horse has battled through with equipment and a possible temperament that makes it different in a 8 yr old vs a 2 yr old just getting to the track trying to trot under 2 minutes. Those with the flaws may not make it at 2 or 3 and that is why you find horses like Foiled Again or other horses like him. They had to have reasons why they didn't make it as a younger horse?

As far as your toilet paper comment I will let that fly from a guy who trains a couple low lever claimers vs what I was able to buy at some success with also saying many more failures but that is the name of the game with babies. Do the homework one can do ok and much better then the 3% strike rate that the stable has over the last few years. Good day Gene.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 16, 2020, 12:09:16 PM
lots of good view points and comments
clearly it depends who you are as to what you buy
if you are a owner/trainer and making a living from this game than  you buy inexpensive yearlings and hope to get lucky and get a real god one but mostly raceway overnight horses, also many of those good raceway horses come from the investors who bought the high priced yearlings and if they are just decent they get sold after their 3 yr old season
if you are an owner/investor you are buying much stronger pedigree for grand circuit horses and maybe a future stallion and certainly future broodmares
it is very evident come breeders crown time , you know who the owners and trainers will be for most of the horses
at the lexington recently some of the trot races there was not a horse that sold for under $100 k in them

there is something for everyone,

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 16, 2020, 12:10:47 PM
or u can buy 3 or 4 babies and get extremely lucky

at times

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 16, 2020, 01:01:15 PM
Horses first
I bet I can name 5 cheap horses that made more $$$$$ than your 2yo this year! How did that work out for you?
As far as stable goes Itís entertainment not an investment you still keep playing the investment card itís not! And you buy trotters so the chances are even smaller of getting a grand circuit one. And you donít need a service to subscribe to figure out muscle hill is it. If you want to play the baby game donít cry when you donít hit! And donít knock the stable because it donít work for you. Iím not a fan of the stable anyways because itís not my thing, but he is swinging for the fences so give him the ata boy. If you got a better way then start your own! Monday morning quarterbacks are no good. I think Iím gonna buy a share in one for the hell of it now.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on October 16, 2020, 02:16:58 PM
Swandre, being a north of the border homer of the stable you continue to make the case that AM for some reason can't pick out horses. You pick 6 horses, one a two yr old My Jazz, a 3 yr old Globetrotting, and 4 others that are 4 and 5. So 2019 Stable had 60 plus yearlings, 2018 I think it was over 70 could have been 72ish, and before that not sure. So lets assume 175 yearlings over the last 3 buying cycles and yes the freshmen class will have a chance at 3 if stake worthy to advance in earnings. You just gave a 3% example giving your money to AM to go sale to sale look at hundreds of horses. To come back with a large number saying that buying value or his approach, to say give me your money, and charge you 66 US or 88 CDN a day at a minimum. That at 3% shot at best you can own one of those 6 type of horses? Which all those shares probably weren't available any way because the stable itself owns shares of Globetrotting, Lawmaker, and White Tiger. I think AM may fire you as his spokesman because your making the case way this thread exist. Poor horse buying while keeping 3 and 4 yr old horses that can't cover the basic coverage and while a large number are still nw 1, 2, or 3 racing at tracks that offer small purses. His client numbers have stalled in this 800 area for over 2 years and one has to wonder with all those horses that didn't sell last year that how many are really active? So yes another shedrow of broken dreams and high bills for newbie clients that question more and more why the horses don't perform.

are you dense?
I didnít say he could pick one out better than anyone.
I was merely using an example that you donít need to over spend to have a contender. I could have listed more cheap yearlings that won stakes.

do you know how difficult it is to win a stake race? letís use Ohio for example.
thereís probably 1000 foals hit the ground every year, do you know how many stake finals slots there are for that crop of 1000 horses? less than 40. do you know how many of that 1000 earn a cheque in said super final? 20. yet they have horses running in the super finals every year.

look at all the owners who won at Lexington last Sunday. those same owners spent twice the amount of money they made this year on yearlings the previous Monday on day 1 of the Lexington sale. being a Ďsuccessfulí (getting your picture taken) owner in the yearling game isnít about who can make the most money. Itís who can afford to lose the most. real simple economics. it seems to me The Stable tapped into a market of people who want to own pieces of $20,000 babies and go for the ride

I own pieces of 5, Iím not making any money, I havenít really lost any either. but I watch my yearlings train down all winter and then race the next summer. thatís all Iím in it for. you seem to have a very hard time accepting that.

you seem like the type who would tell Apple a better way to sell iPhones. You need to get over yourself.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 16, 2020, 02:23:41 PM
BABY GAME IS HARD


LOSE YOUR MONEY ,,,ITS ALWAYS ABOUT HOW MUCH U CAN LOSE NOT HOW MUH U CAN WIN RACING BABIES.... MAYBE TAKE A PIC OR TWO

GETTING IN SUPERFINALS AND RACING ON SUPERNIGHT IS NOT EASY..

ODDS ARE SO HIGH AGAINST
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 02:38:42 PM
Cigar yes it's the entertainment angle but that's the pitch, the line, and whatever to GET away from the investment line because you wouldn't be able to sell that. Even on a fractional basis it hasn't taken off. I'm sure with Ron Burkes name he could sell the entertainment angle as well and have a 1,000 horses....if he wanted. He sells investment which churns out sire stake champions, GC participants, breeders crown wins, and most important stud syndication. Takter group as well on a much smaller basis. Ron still races and buys raceway horses that can churn money over expenses. Other top trainers like to turn over 3 yr old horses for capital into new purchases. The stable doesn't because he can't get these cheap animals other then a few % to have any value. How many have they sold this year a dozen maybe 15 and for the most part between 5-8k.

As far as my only sole 100% horse yes raced 4 or 5 times couldn't get his liver numbers down and turned him out. He was a homebred so feel free to name 5 cheap horses doesn't matter don't care I know the game. It is what it is.

Do you honestly think AM thinks this is entertainment if he had a no disclosure conversation? That he can go years after years with such shitty results while charging 66 a day? Give me a break people aren't that stupid and there aren't that many suckers? Gene you know the cost to keep, feed, jog a horse per day. Do you think the stable minimum charge of 66 is acceptable? Also if it adds in the twice a month videos of training down that when July comes the horses are racing or then turned out. Your paying 6 months of drone cost. Or your horse goes to a trainer in PA to race and he charges 40-45 a day but yet your still paying the 66 a day stable charge...does this make sense? Go ahead buy some shares, I still have some as well. Just reporting the things that stick out and screws the owner. Like I have stated before liking the drone sessions to have the transparency of the horse that's were the stable stands apart. Also that not even sized half mile track with harsh winters has seen a lot more injuries this year. Is it the weather, the track, or the horses he has picked out? Not to mention all his horses seem to get allergies? Been in the business 12 years had a number of trainers and never got a excuse that the horse has allergies?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 03:03:15 PM
Yes Swandre well aware but the reason he buys cheap is so he can have more volume to create more bills. Why race stakes and do what he did more so this year and race in the fairs. Doing that because he said the horses can't compete in the overnight. The great Royhill training down all year as that 10k spot to race in Ohio 100k race. In May with 30% still opened he begged for more people to take shares because AM didn't want to cover the cost of the stake payment. Well everyone saw the debacle that unfolded after May 15. That turns off people that have been in this business and have seen this enough from other trainers. This was no different. So why give the false premise on many of young horses up to qualifiers saying they are stake worthy when its 100% false? A handful start and stay there and the rest are excusues. It clarifies months later when that two year old still floundering in a nw1, a fair, or turned out. Preach entertainment but please what is so entertaining? Someone to pay a bill and say I watched my horse again finish up the track? Then told we are keeping will be a much better 3 yr old. Well that didn't happen for 95% of the horse he kexcuses. It all looks and smells like a used car salesman to sell or just some sort of scheme for someone that can't make it as a driver, didn't get elected for office, and had to come up with some platform. I suppose it won't be much a issue if the guy did it smaller with intent to buy good horses and sell shares with the ability to race in the state sires or lower stakes with keeping 35-50 head...then having 135-150 head that is more a petting zoo for his owners.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 16, 2020, 03:14:29 PM
Horses first
I hope you luck, do well with yours.
Iím just busting your balls because you have the Swoodall syndrome and I just donít like that, thatís all.
And yes cheap horses are my favorite because thatís what I like, the throw aways. Your throw away could be someoneís golden ticket. Like I said if your buying babies your gambling. The whole game is a gamble!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 03:25:35 PM
Cigar I don't mind the ball busting and stayed the baby route because buying the raceway can be the unknown. My take has always been the same I look at this business in a negative light racing because of the drugs, the scammers, the do nothing commissions, and so forth. I stayed in it for the positive the horse mainly but the friendships over time. I wagered on thoroughbreds for nearly 20 years before owning horses. I think the whole cost structure is flawed and the whole vet thing is a scam. Every penny I took out of the business with a number of good horses I put back into the industry while adding a lot more into losses. By my own making but had a good day job. As far as wanting to bring in more clients into the game fine. I would rather see a much larger scale and make the industry more trust worthy and build on less drugs needed, no lasix for 2 yr old horses, and level playing field where horses race clean 48 hours before race day.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 16, 2020, 03:35:24 PM
amac will run the current game plan until it fizzles out , after that he will re emerge with a new platform of buying 15-20 medium to higher priced yearlings to keep some owners or attract new ones once all the newbies have been bled dry
when you buy below average pedigree with some conformation flaws, train them on a shitty track in the dead of winter with average trainers you get what you get , they hope they get lucky and a couple overachieve and carry the flag which is always possible
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 04:03:17 PM
Brown Jug completely agree.

Swandre back to the six horses you used as examples for value? They are also about the only six over that 4 year period that either did ok or really good at 2 came back solid at 3 and did some damage as a raceway horse at 4 that wasn't a bottom condition or near the bottom of nw. So it's not just hard to win stake races it may be even harder to stay with the better raceway horses. The last five years I've raced in OHio I've seen the Chris Beaver trotters do really well and he buys a lot of sub 20k trotters. I will always side that once the horse leaves the sale grounds they have no idea what they sold for. That once they all start day 1 they may be all the same. That over time you know which ones will separate from the pack and by Mar/April get that could special of a horse. When it's time to get those trotters under 2:15 you will find out which are just a horse for the time being.

To your point earlier if things were even yes maybe 250 foals per a divison. Of that say 70% make it to the track so the 175 possible you will get 20% entered into that first sire stake. The rest will try the Buckeye, the balance to the fairs. Then it all shakes out from there. This business is all about low percentages and as Cigar pointed out earlier LUCK. The stable just needs to have more luck maybe picking horses to come home with???
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 16, 2020, 04:05:24 PM
Horses first,
I donít think eliminating Lasix and some drugs is the answer! I think the answer is to make it uniformed for everyone and keep it the same state to state. As far as scammers go thatís any business. Itís hard to compete with big stables these days they get the best drivers and horses usually, and if you beat them they just claim/buy the ones that do beat them. So some people fold the tent and get out and some stay and take their shots neither one is wrong or right. You either like the game or you donít everything else is just an obstacle you have to overcome.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 04:22:19 PM
Cigar no reason a two year needs to be on lasix. Horse starts to bleed time to turn out. As far as the terminology scammers in all business is a cope out. The industry can be changed enforcing very strict and costly rules. Why be a follower and enabler when you can be a Game Changer? Don't think the will is there to want that change...at least on the harness side. Thoroughbreds maybe. International thoroughbred racing has put the hammer down over the years.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 16, 2020, 04:34:59 PM
Gotta disagree with you, nobody should tell an owner that they need to turn anything out if there is a medication available to help the problem. The reality is your an owner with limited knowledge of the back end side of the racing and thatís ok not your fault. If you want to buy babies and turn them out if they bleed thatís your right, but not everyone thinks the way you do so a choice needs to be given especially when there is a medication to assist with it.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 16, 2020, 05:15:18 PM
I DISAGREE ON LASIX THING JIMMY


for 2 yr olds

if it can help

im for it..
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on October 16, 2020, 05:17:48 PM
I am for lasix in any horse that needs it and wish they would drop the lasix position from the integrity bill.  We need the rest of the bill.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 05:31:19 PM
Rest can't help?? Growing immature hard to keep weight on a two year that has been on the track for 9 or 10 months you give them lasix that dehydrates the horse and drops 20-25lbs of weight. To me its greed to keep the horse going yes if it helps? Lowest dose maybe but many bleed through it and need higher doses. To me the horse needs rest...but I guess I'm on a Island especially when 2 yr old may race once every 11 or 12 days...skip a week to ten days and see what happens?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 16, 2020, 05:35:07 PM
They donít loose weight on Lasix!
You can keep them hydrated during the week that it wonít effect them being on Lasix, where the fuck do you get your info from? I have never had a horse loose weight by being on Lasix. Or letís turn them out for 6 months and then put them on Lasix as a 3yo right?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 05:52:47 PM
Facts are blenders get inflammation and scar tissue in the lungs. Many side effects are dehydration and weight loss due to loss of appetite. There is enough information on EIPH and Cigar if you don't think that feel free to call Dr. Benson at the RMTC or any doc's at Woodland Run. AGAIN TALKING ONLY 2 YEAR OLDS. Let them develop without all the medication and heal on their own. As far as the horse ISN'T it the owners investment and bills that go and pay for the horse and if he so choose's for rest why should the trainer argue? If it's a stake horse then I suppose some serious talks should be had. If it's a average horse with upside turning the horse out is the wrong option? Again must be on my own island wanting better for the equine athlete and money isn't everything. Now Cigar to your point in a earlier thread GREED is in all businesses!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on October 16, 2020, 05:56:47 PM
Horses first: Your name and point is valid but we all know people will race horses that shouldn't be.  I want the horses that continue to be raced even though they are bleeding, to have the help of lasix. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 16, 2020, 06:24:39 PM
Horses first,
All horses should have able to get treatments and medication available to help them at any age and at any time! We do it for humans and there is no reason not to do it for animals.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 16, 2020, 06:52:45 PM
In all my years I never had a horse on lasix, but of the belief that trainers today the first sign of blood the administration of lasix is the quick remedy to keep racing. Sure I have had young horses scoped and showed minor bleeding but I would alter things and give them time to heal. I have always believed that since the over use of lasix it has become part of a bloodlines DNA and racing is unknowingly weakening a hardy breed.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 16, 2020, 07:43:04 PM
Cigar I'll meet you more then half way and say I'm wrong on the lasix. While I'm only concerned with the 2 yr old yes your right no weight loss especially on with older horses. I still prefer if I had a young horse that was a bleeder not just a little but a lot I prefer the turnout especially if it was just a run of the mill horse. If a horse was better and bled a little yes I suppose there is nothing wrong with giving the horse lasix.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on October 17, 2020, 03:11:08 PM
Whoís training now that McGinnis has covid?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on October 17, 2020, 07:53:22 PM


 Burps' MacDonald said he loves to eat (as long as he isn't footing the bill), as can be seen in everyone of his videos burping 30 times like a pig.


  He doesn't want to buy expensive/good looking horses, he can buy 5 rats for the price of a decent one, he gets the same monthly bill/vet fees/big meals off the rat as the good horse- but he gets it x5 because his 5 rats equal the price of an ok individual.


 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 17, 2020, 08:45:41 PM
they are not cheap horses they are UNDERVALUED, nobody else sees the value so they are bought cheap
and they will be potential champions , at least until the qualify
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on October 17, 2020, 10:26:24 PM
they are not cheap horses they are UNDERVALUED, nobody else sees the value so they are bought cheap
and they will be potential champions , at least until the qualify
[/quote
Sadly they will be staked like champions too
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on October 17, 2020, 10:35:04 PM



 Burps' tries to get them going 100MPH for his open houses, to sell the shares that aren't sold out & to get the owners a little moist before the disappointments start...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 18, 2020, 09:47:15 PM


 Burps' tries to get them going 100MPH for his open houses, to sell the shares that aren't sold out & to get the owners a little moist before the disappointments start...
Easy game playing on someone else's dime and never have to make good on it
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 19, 2020, 04:37:28 PM
One of the stable trainers tested positive for corona are they all quarantined now
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: American Sniper on October 19, 2020, 04:38:11 PM
watched the meadows to kill time before the football game  kc and the bills wow got parked on both favorites  way would tim twaddie  use his ass.    11.dt
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 19, 2020, 04:40:52 PM
How do they met him in when he's been exposed to Corona
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 19, 2020, 04:58:59 PM
race 7,8,12
on the fav or second choice
parked them all and got a couple of 5ths I think
there was no holes for him today
perhaps the boys were not happy about him stopping by after the Cleveland covid experience
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 19, 2020, 08:24:22 PM
Hard to get parked from the three hole but found himself in that situation twice on both his stable horses. He could have settled into a hole but being on the favorite I suppose how long do you stay there were the wagering public doesn't roast you? AM hates the mud, hate to say that was the excuse for the two drives, guess one has to wait for the video list of excuses? If your a Spirit of DEO owner and the talk of the only stable horse to be entertained for the Breeders Crown they are wondering that 5k entry come with a different driver?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 19, 2020, 08:42:48 PM
Give AM a half mile head start and he will still fuck it up, the guy can't drive period.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 23, 2020, 08:59:30 AM
Well just read in today's HRU that washed up golfer Long John Daly has joined TheStable. Now AM has a real drinking buddy or is it just like the rest of his investors he found another sucker.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on October 23, 2020, 09:20:42 AM
Well just read in today's HRU that washed up golfer Long John Daly has joined TheStable. Now AM has a real drinking buddy or is it just like the rest of his investors he found another sucker.

lol - you referring to someone as washed up  -   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 23, 2020, 10:17:33 AM
I did all right and got out in the mid eighties and glad I didn't have to race against all the cheaters.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on October 23, 2020, 10:24:18 AM
so around the same time that John Daly did all right then -
so there were not cheaters then but there are now or you didnt have to race against the cheaters because you were racing at Orangeville and Belleville? just asking
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on October 23, 2020, 10:49:52 AM
I did all right and got out in the mid eighties and glad I didn't have to race against all the cheaters.

  Daley used doctored golf balls back then.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 23, 2020, 10:50:48 AM
I raced at Greenwood, Mohawk, Barrie, Western, Orangeville, Elmira, Windsor wherever they fit conditions. I never said there were not any cheaters but I figured why knock my head against the wall, I did alright so when the time was right I entered them in claiming and they got claimed and one I sold. I have my farm and I don't want for anything and life is pretty good and no regrets.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on October 23, 2020, 10:52:57 AM
I raced at Greenwood, Mohawk, Barrie, Western, Orangeville, Elmira, Windsor wherever they fit conditions. I never said there were not any cheaters but I figured why knock my head against the wall, I did alright so when the time was right I entered them in claiming and they got claimed and one I sold. I have my farm and I don't want for anything and life is pretty good and no regrets.

LUC STILL WANTS TO FLY IN tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 23, 2020, 11:01:40 AM
I know drivers flew in but not sure of general public and Mohawk is allowing certain amount of fans. If it's possible why not, cases are rising in the Toronto and surrounding area and have been since last week and the government is changing the rules and restrictions daily.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 23, 2020, 02:04:14 PM
I raced at Greenwood, Mohawk, Barrie, Western, Orangeville, Elmira, Windsor wherever they fit conditions. I never said there were not any cheaters but I figured why knock my head against the wall, I did alright so when the time was right I entered them in claiming and they got claimed and one I sold. I have my farm and I don't want for anything and life is pretty good and no regrets.
Iceman......so you never used any supplements or anything at all?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 23, 2020, 03:32:25 PM
Vitamin supplements, good feed and plenty of water. Had their teeth floated regularly and shoe changes. I did use an equine therapist on a regular basis and that was it. The horses got time off for paddock time and overall looked great and were happy but then again they were mine no owners.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 23, 2020, 04:56:33 PM
Vitamin supplements, good feed and plenty of water. Had their teeth floated regularly and shoe changes. I did use an equine therapist on a regular basis and that was it. The horses got time off for paddock time and overall looked great and were happy but then again they were mine no owners.
So using supplements isnít performance enhancement?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 23, 2020, 05:32:10 PM
Not in my mind or my vet, it kept them healthy.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 23, 2020, 07:35:00 PM
So let me get this right, you used SUPPLEMENTS but didnít enhance performance?  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 23, 2020, 07:38:38 PM
How the fuck does vitamin B enhance performance.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 23, 2020, 08:29:56 PM
How the fuck does vitamin B enhance performance.
You tell me oh great one  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 23, 2020, 08:53:04 PM
It doesn't look it up.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 23, 2020, 08:55:46 PM
I know drivers flew in but not sure of general public and Mohawk is allowing certain amount of fans. If it's possible why not, cases are rising in the Toronto and surrounding area and have been since last week and the government is changing the rules and restrictions daily.
AM is exempt
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 23, 2020, 09:31:56 PM
It doesn't look it up.
[/B Vitamin Supplementation. As key nutrients regulating energy release, B vitamins can impact a horse's energy levels and performance.


Key word performance iceman
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on October 24, 2020, 05:45:47 AM
It doesn't look it up.
[/B Vitamin Supplementation. As key nutrients regulating energy release, B vitamins can impact a horse's energy levels and performance.


Key word performance iceman

  IS REDGLOW A CLASS 3?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 24, 2020, 10:06:39 AM
So you looked it up Cigar but you failed to mention it helps digestion and that's why I started to use it because certain times during the year I noticed the feed would change slightly and the vet recommended Vitamin B to alleviate any digestive problems. Going further I never had a positive in 45 years because I never used shit.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 24, 2020, 10:59:42 AM
The point Iím making to you iceman is that, anything aside from hay and oats is a enhancement period. These animals are not machines and need supplements sometimes to correct problems which is not naturally done. We can go around and around and spin the words anyway we want on this. The reality is if a horse has something wrong with it we try and correct it!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on October 24, 2020, 12:40:16 PM
The point Iím making to you iceman is that, anything aside from hay and oats is a enhancement period. These animals are not machines and need supplements sometimes to correct problems which is not naturally done. We can go around and around and spin the words anyway we want on this. The reality is if a horse has something wrong with it we try and correct it!

  Perhaps difference being, you don't get a positive for a "supplement" vs what's in the rule book?
Your points are still valid.... tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 24, 2020, 05:47:20 PM
2 guys buying horses for the stable today at hoosier classic sale
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 24, 2020, 08:03:15 PM
The point Iím making to you iceman is that, anything aside from hay and oats is a enhancement period. These animals are not machines and need supplements sometimes to correct problems which is not naturally done. We can go around and around and spin the words anyway we want on this. The reality is if a horse has something wrong with it we try and correct it!
Cigar fair enough I always first and foremost made sure every horse in the barn was fit and happy and if I saw a problem I didn't screw around and called the vet in for his opinion. I would go over the top so they had the best feed, hoof care, and dental. I made sure their harness was always in tip top shape. Basically because they were mine I never took a short cut or scrimped on anything.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on October 26, 2020, 10:40:14 AM
Cigar fair enough I always first and foremost made sure every horse in the barn was fit and happy and if I saw a problem I didn't screw around and called the vet in for his opinion. I would go over the top so they had the best feed, hoof care, and dental. I made sure their harness was always in tip top shape. Basically because they were mine I never took a short cut or scrimped on anything.
.....and yet couldn't even compete on the B circuit. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 26, 2020, 10:54:49 AM
Faggot had you been following I got out and when I did the game had been good to me, no regrets. You who mouths off never had skin in the game and always will be a bustout deuce bettor living pay cheque to pay cheque.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 26, 2020, 11:04:33 AM
Iceman I respect the fact that you raced back in the 80ís thatís pretty cool. But itís a different game now horses themselves are bigger and faster and the races go much faster. You canít compare the 70ís and 80ís to todayís racing.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on October 26, 2020, 11:38:06 AM
Iceman I respect the fact that you raced back in the 80ís thatís pretty cool. But itís a different game now horses themselves are bigger and faster and the races go much faster. You canít compare the 70ís and 80ís to todayís racing.

When someone says "..I got out of the game" , that means they couldn't compete and went tits up.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 26, 2020, 12:28:06 PM
When someone says "..I got out of the game" , that means they couldn't compete and went tits up.
1. IceFag says he got out in 1985. That is 35 years ago
2. IceFag says he was licensed trainer for 45 years
3. IceFag says he started training when he was 20 years old

If true, IceFag is 100 years old, by his own account.

Lance, can you sort this out for us?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 26, 2020, 12:59:55 PM
Who cares how old or when he trained, or if he ever did. Not like anyone else on here lies or tells stories.  ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 26, 2020, 01:33:57 PM
you guys need your own thread
 would be interested to see the subject topic .LOL!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 26, 2020, 03:25:45 PM
Who cares how old or when he trained, or if he ever did. Not like anyone else on here lies or tells stories.  ngc3 ngc3
The stable Boys love when the topic gets sidetracked takes the spotlight off and the suckered swim up to nibble on the bait
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 26, 2020, 05:26:07 PM
Plenty on here know me and they know. It's always the same ones who stir up false shit. Cigar I agree today's horses are bigger and faster and the equipment is far from the 70's and 80's but the horses now, well let's just say is drug enhanced. I wouldn't use anything and the Robinson's and others I had to go against were all into it so that was the main reason for me getting out. My conscience is clean.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 26, 2020, 05:59:19 PM
Plenty on here know me and they know. It's always the same ones who stir up false shit. Cigar I agree today's horses are bigger and faster and the equipment is far from the 70's and 80's but the horses now, well let's just say is drug enhanced. I wouldn't use anything and the Robinson's and others I had to go against were all into it so that was the main reason for me getting out. My conscience is clean.
Dear Professor Fuck Puddle,

Thanks for the keen insight.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 26, 2020, 06:28:18 PM
Calhoun don't you have a butt date with your butt buddy Lance, who plays the female, you both bitch like a female.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on October 26, 2020, 06:36:03 PM
Who cares how old or when he trained, or if he ever did. Not like anyone else on here lies or tells stories.  ngc3 ngc3

ICEMAN IS LEGIT tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on October 26, 2020, 08:56:30 PM
1. IceFag says he got out in 1985. That is 35 years ago
2. IceFag says he was licensed trainer for 45 years
3. IceFag says he started training when he was 20 years old

If true, IceFag is 100 years old, by his own account.

Lance, can you sort this out for us?

1. Calvin said daughter a junior
2. 2 months later Calvin daughter graduate
3. Next year Calvin daughter nurse supervisor making 6 figures ngc3

1a. Calvin son make 6 figures at Lehman
1b. Lehman been closed for 10 years

 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 26, 2020, 09:02:54 PM
And yet he loves to go after others, typical hood mentality and yet he is a nobody. Maybe that's why he never showed the rest of his boys couldn't afford it which again proves he's a nothing without a gang.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on October 27, 2020, 12:41:03 PM
1. IceFag says he got out in 1985. That is 35 years ago
2. IceFag says he was licensed trainer for 45 years
3. IceFag says he started training when he was 20 years old

If true, IceFag is 100 years old, by his own account.

Lance, can you sort this out for us?

Calhoun, I'm on the case. Currently searching all homeless shelters and soup kitchens.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 27, 2020, 12:48:25 PM
1. Calvin said daughter a junior
2. 2 months later Calvin daughter graduate
3. Next year Calvin daughter nurse supervisor making 6 figures ngc3

1a. Calvin son make 6 figures at Lehman
1b. Lehman been closed for 10 years

 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1

its a dee lemma ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 27, 2020, 01:09:25 PM
I think from now on we should think of Calhoun and Lance as Calvin and Hobbs cartoon detectives ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: cigar on October 27, 2020, 01:43:36 PM
1. Calvin said daughter a junior
2. 2 months later Calvin daughter graduate
3. Next year Calvin daughter nurse supervisor making 6 figures ngc3

1a. Calvin son make 6 figures at Lehman
1b. Lehman been closed for 10 years

 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1
Lehman was liquidated and purchased by Barclays oh wise one, maybe you ainít all that either?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 27, 2020, 01:45:55 PM
ICEMAN IS LEGIT tmbz1
Bullshit. 

Name just 1 horse of his.

I never lie.  Never.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 27, 2020, 02:03:14 PM
1. IceFag says he got out in 1985. That is 35 years ago
2. IceFag says he was licensed trainer for 45 years
3. IceFag says he started training when he was 20 years old

If true, IceFag is 100 years old, by his own account.

  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Another wiping of the floor with IceFag's ass.

Canada's #1 faggot.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on October 27, 2020, 09:50:51 PM
Bullshit. 

Name just 1 horse of his.

I never lie.  Never.

  He had them before they kept records.  You DID say he was over 100.....
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on October 27, 2020, 10:14:33 PM
Lehman was liquidated and purchased by Barclays oh wise one, maybe you ainít all that either?

Your name is Jean please donít speak to me until u have more wins than u do letters in your first name
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 28, 2020, 08:15:31 AM
  He had them before they kept records.  You DID say he was over 100.....
Check your PMs. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 28, 2020, 09:08:12 AM
Racing in Ontario last week, the meadows yesterday, is this really essential travel? Are the meadows drivers really that awful that they can't drive so the man can stay home with his family?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 28, 2020, 10:35:09 AM
Racing in Ontario last week, the meadows yesterday, is this really essential travel? Are the meadows drivers really that awful that they can't drive so the man can stay home with his family?
Off year, yes.

But it's great to see him working hard to the end of the year.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 28, 2020, 11:15:22 AM
The classic is that AM is driving at Hoosier on Friday (1 horse) which means either none of the drivers there for the Breeders Crown are good enough or no one wants to drive one of his horses. Guess this is just another example of AM padding his bills for the owners

JUST WANTS TO BE  LISTED ASA DRIVER ON BREEDES CROWN NIGHT

HE CAN SAY HE DROVE A HORSE ON BREEDERS CRWN NIGHT TO HIS PIGEONS

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 28, 2020, 11:25:15 AM
Or handicappers for that race you have a automatic toss.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 28, 2020, 01:48:19 PM
The classic is that AM is driving at Hoosier on Friday (1 horse) which means either none of the drivers there for the Breeders Crown are good enough or no one wants to drive one of his horses. Guess this is just another example of AM padding his bills for the owners
His ego obviously clouds his judgment
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 28, 2020, 02:40:06 PM
all good thoughts
 none are even close
but keep guessing
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 28, 2020, 02:56:11 PM
all good thoughts
 none are even close
but keep guessing
Other important business.

100% fact.

Trust me on this.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on October 28, 2020, 03:27:31 PM
Since it seems like we have 2 people that know exactly why he is doing this so why not tell us rather than play games, but then again it is much easier to sound like you really know something when in fact you probably know nothing If I am wrong then you will post the answer

If you look at program, he gets along very well with Spirit of Deo. Others not so much.
Almost anyone can drive Globetrotting.  Open a program and look people, it's not hard
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 28, 2020, 03:27:53 PM
can you please explain how AM got from The Meadows to Hoosier yesterday?? I know he could not drive that far and get to Hoosier to race in time.
Did you ever get a good response on this important question?

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 28, 2020, 03:40:27 PM
there was an answer posted but I do not remember the excuse
If you can't even remember , why should others bother to use their valuable time to teach you?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 28, 2020, 03:42:10 PM
If you can't even remember , why should others bother to use their valuable time to teach you?

hes made  money with anthony

hes worth the trouble tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 28, 2020, 04:03:32 PM
That question was asked 2 months ago which has nothing to do with the current topic which you may want to read....scroll up a few posts...always glad to help
You're saying you've been wasting my time for 2 months.

I decided I'm not going to tell you what you want to know.

Don't be offended. 

In a day or two, you won't remember any of this.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 28, 2020, 04:18:21 PM
THIN ATTEMPT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 28, 2020, 04:23:27 PM
ditto what captain morgan said
 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 28, 2020, 04:34:28 PM
THIN ATTEMPT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
ngc3 ngc3

That guy can't find his own ass with both hands and flashlight.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 28, 2020, 05:06:05 PM
If he wants to keep this scam going he has to quit putting himself down to drive, sooner or later the brain dead investors are going to wake up and say what the fuck.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 28, 2020, 05:10:38 PM
If he wants to keep this scam going he has to quit putting himself down to drive, sooner or later the brain dead investors are going to wake up and say what the fuck.

I TRULY DONT UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAS TO DRIVE WHEN THERE IS QUALITY DRIVERS AROUND

EGO MAYBE?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on October 28, 2020, 05:22:46 PM
Why enter this filly in the race with another driver when she is more than likely to run. He gets along with her, he wins with her. He gave the owners the option to list someone else and guess what, they chose him. If you have no stake in the horse then why all the concern about other people's $
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 28, 2020, 05:32:13 PM
Why enter this filly in the race with another driver when she is more than likely to run. He gets along with her, he wins with her. He gave the owners the option to list someone else and guess what, they chose him. If you have no stake in the horse then why all the concern about other people's $

I DONT GIVE A FCK EITHER WAY
BUT IT WOOD BE HOOVE  ANYONE TO GET  THE BEST POSSIBLE DRIVER

THATS ANYONE ELSE WOOD BREAK THE HORSE IS MORONIC..

P[LS STOP MAKES U LIKE DUMBER THAN U REALLY ARE

BEST DRIVER GIVES YOU

 BEST POSSIBLE CHANCE TO WIN THE RACE

THAT BEING SIAD

U GOTTA BE A FCKIN PIGEON TO FALL INTO THE PYRAMID SCHEME HES RUNNING ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on October 28, 2020, 05:38:41 PM
Obviously you're half retarded. Go look at the program on this filly. If you don't understand then idk what to tell you. Why don't you cut your know it all bullshit out and look at the facts
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 28, 2020, 05:41:34 PM
Next will be a Mexican Beer commercial "The Greatest Harness Driver That Ever Lived", what a clown.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 28, 2020, 05:42:55 PM
Obviously you're half retarded. Go look at the program on this filly. If you don't understand then idk what to tell you. Why don't you cut your know it all bullshit out and look at tye facts

LETS GO SLOW


HE WANTED TO SEE HIS NAME ON THE PRGRAM LISTED AS THE DRIVER ON BREEDERS CROWN NIGHT

THATS IT

..NAME CALLING JUST MAKES YOU LOOK DUMEBR THAN YOU REALLY ARE

ARE U AN INVESTOR IN THE

PLAY FOR PIGEONS  PYRAMID SCHEME ngc3 ngc3

IM AXING FOR A CHRISTIAN  FRIEND
THKS JusT REPSOND ARE YOU AN INVESTOR /

yes or no

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 28, 2020, 06:36:29 PM
Yeah there isn't much a choice and if so with this mare she doesn't take well to other trainer and drivers. The owners probably wanted him to make the drive and drive the horse. Doesn't matter he will be in Maryland days later waiting to collect another 5.40 a share per horse for his travel and stay. Also the work to video a clip of a potential horse. His 18 buys at Lexington netted 9,700cdn for a week stay in Lexington. Notice the stable has opted to sell 4 or 5 horses on ongait as a list price instead of auction since they don't garner bids and sell low. This season worse then last numbers don't lie. More fair wins then stake wins was a first for the stable in 2020.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 28, 2020, 06:54:47 PM
The greatest in harness racing of all time, at least in his mind only. And that is what the investors are paying for letting him travel and drive at other tracks. They all must be masochists and love taking it up the ass.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 28, 2020, 07:07:25 PM
wow, lucpark, wheres the love
long ago in this thread you were a fan
wha happen?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on October 28, 2020, 07:08:28 PM
please confirm
he has another horse there that night called globetrotting but some one else driving ??
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 28, 2020, 07:21:30 PM
Trace has drove Globetrotting before and got along with the horse. AM was on the fence going so he didn't want to lose Trace to another horse. Plus, I believe this isn't the last race for the horse at Hoosier and with Erv as trainer. Trace drives for Erv so that sums it up.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 28, 2020, 07:32:07 PM
wow, lucpark, wheres the love
long ago in this thread you were a fan
wha happen?
JUST KEEPIN THIS MOVIN

I GET PAID FOR HITS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 28, 2020, 07:41:38 PM
Yeah there isn't much a choice and if so with this mare she doesn't take well to other trainer and drivers. The owners probably wanted him to make the drive and drive the horse. Doesn't matter he will be in Maryland days later waiting to collect another 5.40 a share per horse for his travel and stay. Also the work to video a clip of a potential horse. His 18 buys at Lexington netted 9,700cdn for a week stay in Lexington. Notice the stable has opted to sell 4 or 5 horses on ongait as a list price instead of auction since they don't garner bids and sell low. This season worse then last numbers don't lie. More fair wins then stake wins was a first for the stable in 2020.
9700 for the week? For what exactly, his expertise on picking out those yearlings that every other single person at the sale is asleep  while they are on the block?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 28, 2020, 08:15:03 PM
2.90 a share for travel and stay. Which I think he stayed with his brother Mark already there driving. 2.50 a share for looking at horses and taking a minute plus video. The hook is say we are looking at buying 8 or 9 horses mark in the cost based on that and then go out and buy 18.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on October 28, 2020, 08:33:29 PM
Iíll be at Hoosier all weekend please PM what u want me to say to that clown AM

Iím gonna harass him during post parade

Charm never lies never
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 28, 2020, 08:41:10 PM
The wife loves that he's always away ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on October 28, 2020, 09:03:50 PM
The wife loves that he's always away ngc3

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Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on October 29, 2020, 09:25:22 AM
I DONT GIVE A FCK EITHER WAY
BUT IT WOOD BE HOOVE  ANYONE TO GET  THE BEST POSSIBLE DRIVER

THATS ANYONE ELSE WOOD BREAK THE HORSE IS MORONIC..

P[LS STOP MAKES U LIKE DUMBER THAN U REALLY ARE

BEST DRIVER GIVES YOU

 BEST POSSIBLE CHANCE TO WIN THE RACE

THAT BEING SIAD

U GOTTA BE A FCKIN PIGEON TO FALL INTO THE PYRAMID SCHEME HES RUNNING ngc3 ngc3


Spirit of Deo

08/15/19 - James McDonald - X
08/22/19 - Anthony MacDonald - 2
09/16/19 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
04/17/20 - J Butenschoen - X
04/27/20 - David Miller - X
06/08/20 - J Butenschoen - X
06/23/20 - Anthony McDonald - 1
06/30/20 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
07/17/20 - James MacDonald - X
08/01/20 - Louis Roy - 7
08/15/20 - Louis Roy - 8
08/25/20 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
09/01/20 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
09/08/20 - Anthony MacDonald - 1
09/21-20 - James MacDonald - 6

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on October 29, 2020, 09:46:38 AM
08/01....10 hole
08/15....8 hole
09/21...8 hole
10/19...AM driving...3 hole, betting favorite and I guess its much better to run into everyone and get placed 10th

As always, its nice to leave out the complete story. AM may drive at Hoosier tomorrow night but it is really worth the risk for the owners to spend $800+ to find out???

did you ever consider perhaps he owns a piece of her as well?
itís pretty clear he gets along with the horse
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on October 29, 2020, 10:04:04 AM
WRONG again...at least you are consistent. Check his latest video where AM says that he owns 0% of Spirit of Deo. One thing about you, you never let facts get in the way of the story you like to tell

I didnít say he did, I said perhaps he did.

I guess he doesnít
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 29, 2020, 10:30:55 AM
Swandre yes leaves out the move to the Meadows facing inferior competition which is fine to put some nice races together that yes should be noted at 1-2 or 2-5 prices. Not more then two weeks ago was being touted as the stable o ly BC hopeful. A ugly race in the mud saved owners a 5k entry fee. I will add from my early post why AM making the trip that Hoosier is a tricky track first time over and it's good they sent her a couple weeks ago. If she had a caught driver I would say a 60/40 chance of a break in the mile. Getting the rail she will save some ground when her running style doubt she is leaving and you know how caught drivers go...just a race and off to the next.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on October 29, 2020, 11:50:00 AM
What is the infatuation with what he does and with other peoples $. I never take it upon myself to look at others financial picture
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on October 29, 2020, 12:43:19 PM
08/01....10 hole
08/15....8 hole
09/21...8 hole
10/19...AM driving...3 hole, betting favorite and I guess its much better to run into everyone and get placed 10th

As always, its nice to leave out the complete story. AM may drive at Hoosier tomorrow night but it is really worth the risk for the owners to spend $800+ to find out???
Do you think he cares, hes on the ride of his life and has 800 suckers paying his fare
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on October 29, 2020, 12:48:18 PM
Going to a break through year coming up.  Very astute yearling purchases..big, big money to be made with the Stable next year, get in know while you can
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on October 29, 2020, 02:09:59 PM
You are right it is OTHER PEOPLES money...not AM's that he is blowing. Not sure what your values are but I have no respect for anyone that has larceny in their heart from the beginning knowing full well that almost everyone will lose money, that AM is lining his pockets and then pretend to wrap the scheme around entertainment value. Flushing money, month after month down the toilet does not seem too entertaining to me but I guess I grew up in a different generation....... .Thank God!!

Yes people lose money all the time in harness racing but at least everyone should expect a fair shot, something lacking in AM's business model.

Thatís your opinion. your opinion isnít a a fact, Jack.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 29, 2020, 02:23:03 PM
What is the infatuation with what he does and with other peoples $. I never take it upon myself to look at others financial picture
That guy and Lyin' Jim ONLY care about counting other peoples' money.

Jealous or busted.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 29, 2020, 03:21:36 PM
 ngc3 ngc3 Poon loves to lie. Nobody is counting others money they are rightly pointing out how bad the stable does with horses mostly picked out by AM. Yes, there are suckers born everyday and more power to them wanting to get a taste of horse racing and being at the track. However thestable.ca track record not so good the last two years. Lots of excuses no more so then horses with allergies. Yes, most lose money or the big game owners shop and spend for the next stallion. On average all losers. I've been there many of my 11 years as owner. The poon is just mad he is a bust out and called out for not racing under some stable in MI.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 29, 2020, 03:45:16 PM
ngc3 ngc3 Poon loves to lie. Nobody is counting others money they are rightly pointing out how bad the stable does with horses mostly picked out by AM. Yes, there are suckers born everyday and more power to them wanting to get a taste of horse racing and being at the track. However thestable.ca track record not so good the last two years. Lots of excuses no more so then horses with allergies. Yes, most lose money or the big game owners shop and spend for the next stallion. On average all losers. I've been there many of my 11 years as owner. The poon is just mad he is a bust out and called out for not racing under some stable in MI.
ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Hi Lyin' Jim Buttfuck,

Thanks for your response.

Once you learn the difference between median and average, get back with us.

You really hate my little share of a filly won a handful of races this year.

Don't you, Jelly Jim?




 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 29, 2020, 04:02:28 PM
Please tell me what I said is opinion....this should be good. By the way my name is not Jack
Jealous Jim B. has that  expense drilled down to the nickel.

He'll be along.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on October 29, 2020, 04:08:07 PM
Poor little poon derailing a thread as usual stay on topic. Nobody cares about your half of a share won at a strip poker game with your Male friends.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on October 29, 2020, 04:11:23 PM
Please tell me what I said is opinion....this should be good. By the way my name is not Jack

ĎSomething lacking in the business modelí

well, for you maybe. which is fine. maybe not for others.

youíre a Ďmy opinion is the correct oneí kind of guy. you were an only child or you werenít told Ďnoí as a child I can tell.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 29, 2020, 04:14:20 PM
lets cut to the facts

96 percent or better make no money and fact lose money at the STABLE

..

and clients being misled ,,if you're pigeon material you in the club if not

you run away from A MAC with all the speed your legs can go

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on October 29, 2020, 04:55:29 PM
So you think everyone is getting a fair shot with AM. You like all his lackies never can answer if he was more interested in trying to  make money for the owners, rather than lining his pockets why would he not buy 20 yearlings for $50K each rather than 50 yearlings at $20K each and don't give me that value crap line he preaches. If you believe that then every horseman at Lexington, except for AM, was stupid as he tries to get people to believe that his purchases were bargains compared to their value (his inflated number)
This is the dumbest fucking thing you've posted.

Jim, please help us all and help out here.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on October 29, 2020, 08:13:35 PM
Now here is the truth, Calhoun is all Bullshit Bravado lies and deceit and nothing to back it up. He twists the truth because again he is all Bullshit. What I can't figure out is why the site owners allow his BS when there is enough legit threads to make the site worthwhile.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on October 29, 2020, 09:46:12 PM
So you think everyone is getting a fair shot with AM. You like all his lackies never can answer if he was more interested in trying to  make money for the owners, rather than lining his pockets why would he not buy 20 yearlings for $50K each rather than 50 yearlings at $20K each and don't give me that value crap line he preaches. If you believe that then every horseman at Lexington, except for AM, was stupid as he tries to get people to believe that his purchases were bargains compared to their value (his inflated number)

why doesnít McDonaldís sell better beef and charge more for their burgers?

do you know anything about supply and demand economics?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: captain morgan on October 30, 2020, 06:32:48 PM
Crickets
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on October 30, 2020, 06:35:44 PM
GOOD DRIVE ALMOST BROKE AROUND FIRST TURN HE STEADIED THE TROTTER BEAT A DECENT FIELD

I BET THE HORSE FOR 150 CUS HORSE WAS IN AGANIST TOMATOE CANS

EASY WINNER
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on October 30, 2020, 11:28:54 PM
Crickets

of course, now had he broke the horse, the entire posse would be out
ironically, they all bet him too apparently

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on November 03, 2020, 02:48:24 PM
hip 91

amac

111k

so fck u haters

good job amac tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on November 03, 2020, 02:57:23 PM
hip 91

amac

111k

so fck u haters

good job amac tmbz1
Where are the haters?

They all said it was over, especially Lyin Jim.

It's not over until we say it's over.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 03, 2020, 03:38:20 PM
hip 91

amac

111k

so fck u haters

good job amac tmbz1
Blue Chip buy back?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on November 03, 2020, 03:41:10 PM
Blue Chip buy back?

HE BOUGHT 2 SO FAR 1 FOR 39 K I BELIEVE AND THIS ONE I JUST MENTIONED
GUESS HES GOT A MAJOR INVESTOR  LOOKS LIKE .,.

NO MORE CHEAP SHIT

GOOD FOR AMAC
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 03, 2020, 05:37:28 PM
What's over? More delusional nonsense from the forum idiots. Good he paid 115k to buy a horse hopefully it doesn't end up in the fairs like the 60k purchase last year. Where it can't compete I. A Northfield nw1. Not rocket science. When the 115k horse is broke by this weekend the price means nothing just another horse. Hopefully it doesn't end up broken down like the 15 non starting yearlings that were turned out early. That frozen short half mile track during the brutal Canadian winter does a number on those young horses. Yay whoopie the stable bought a expensive horse...is that all you have untruthful poon?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on November 03, 2020, 05:52:13 PM
I AGREE JIMMY HE SHOULD FINALLY GO TRAIN DOWN HORSES SOMEWHERE IN FLORIDA

JUST ADD MORE EXPENSE TO HIS OWNER S

WHATS THE DIFFERNCE AT LEAST BABIES TRAININ IN BETTER WHEATHER
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on November 03, 2020, 06:28:33 PM
I AGREE JIMMY HE SHOULD FINALLY GO TRAIN DOWN HORSES SOMEWHERE IN FLORIDA

JUST ADD MORE EXPENSE TO HIS OWNER S

WHATS THE DIFFERNCE AT LEAST BABIES TRAININ IN BETTER WHEATHER

PINEHURST OR HAWKINSVILLE BETTER THAN THAT ICE RINK
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 03, 2020, 06:40:38 PM
He has a young family isn't going anywhere. Fact is he is a trotting guy and these trotters are on the half for 10-11 months. Takes a toll just look at the 25% that went down early by June.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on November 03, 2020, 06:49:59 PM
What's over? More delusional nonsense from the forum idiots. Good he paid 115k to buy a horse hopefully it doesn't end up in the fairs like the 60k purchase last year. Where it can't compete I. A Northfield nw1. Not rocket science. When the 115k horse is broke by this weekend the price means nothing just another horse. Hopefully it doesn't end up broken down like the 15 non starting yearlings that were turned out early. That frozen short half mile track during the brutal Canadian winter does a number on those young horses. Yay whoopie the stable bought a expensive horse...is that all you have untruthful poon?

not the first guy who bought a pricey yearling who couldnt do.  Mind you this one made $20k or so which is a little better than Maverick did -
BUT no matter what, its going to be no good to a lot on here. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 03, 2020, 07:00:05 PM
Wow thanks for the breaking news that expensive or moderate expensive horses don't pan out. That the two best sires by the numbers Cantab Hall gets 24% over 100k earners and MH 20%. The balance goes a lot lower especially with sires that are a few crops in that are lucky to be 10-12%. On the pacing side there is a lot more money to race for and a sire like Bettors Delight gets 35% of his offspring to earn over 100k. SBSW as well. However those numbers go down across the board with after those two.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on November 03, 2020, 07:15:16 PM
well then, he has quite a few Cantabs this year - so I guess he is ahead already  ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 03, 2020, 07:40:44 PM
Heaven forbid if these two get allergies ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 03, 2020, 07:44:24 PM
Heaven forbid if these two get allergies ngc3
Lmao ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 03, 2020, 07:48:11 PM
What's over? More delusional nonsense from the forum idiots. Good he paid 115k to buy a horse hopefully it doesn't end up in the fairs like the 60k purchase last year. Where it can't compete I. A Northfield nw1. Not rocket science. When the 115k horse is broke by this weekend the price means nothing just another horse. Hopefully it doesn't end up broken down like the 15 non starting yearlings that were turned out early. That frozen short half mile track during the brutal Canadian winter does a number on those young horses. Yay whoopie the stable bought a expensive horse...is that all you have untruthful poon?
Never trust that the horse was actually purchased,  Blue Chip likes to inflate their prices and AM likes to inflate his own pocketbook, unsuspecting,  clueless shareholders won't know the difference. 
Have to give the guy credit he will be mortgage free and retired with a big nest egg before the bottom falls out, he takes care of number one
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 03, 2020, 07:49:09 PM
He has a young family isn't going anywhere. Fact is he is a trotting guy and these trotters are on the half for 10-11 months. Takes a toll just look at the 25% that went down early by June.
Heard he bought the farm he's stabled at, wont be moving
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on November 03, 2020, 07:49:59 PM
THE GUY SPEND BIG MONEY

,,HE GETS CREDIT

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on November 03, 2020, 08:08:23 PM
THE GUY SPEND BIG MONEY

,,HE GETS CREDIT

JUST LIKE CAR BUYERS tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on November 03, 2020, 09:35:10 PM
who knows what the details of the purchase are
however there are  87 shares on the site for $1700 each so they are all for sale currently
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: SDST2009 on November 03, 2020, 09:48:33 PM
Hey just curious. Anyone interested in putting a similar microscope over a trainer who pays big money for yearlings? Such as a Takter..? I think the dollars would be off but not so sure the percentages (starters; money versus purchase price) would be.
It would be an interesting stats project.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Jazzman on November 03, 2020, 10:12:59 PM
great idea how much money does alagna stables burn every year
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on November 03, 2020, 11:04:08 PM
the difference being when alagna or takter hit they hit BIG and you have grand circuit champions , potential stallions and possible foundation broodmares
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: COUNSELOR on November 04, 2020, 12:06:06 AM
IN MY OPINION I THINK MORE TRAINERS SHOULD ATTEMPT TO DEVELOP RACING PARTNERSHIPS IN RACEHORSES AND YEARLINGS AS WELL AS STALLIONS.    I PERSONALLY BELEIVE IT WOULD BE VERY EASY TO RAISE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS VERY QUICKLY. 

MORE IMPORTANTLY, ONCE THESE FUNDS ARE RAISED TO DO VRYTHING THE RIGHT WAY FROM THE PURCHASE TO RACING ---STANDING STALLIONS, ETC.  DO THINGS THE RIGHT WAY AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED.  THE MONEY IS OUT THERE.  MORE THAN EVER IN MY LIFETIME.

WITH THE PROFITS FROM THE STOCK MARKET PEOPLE WILL BUY SEVERAL HORSES AND IT IS NOTHING FOR AN INVESTOR TO SPEND $100,000 IN THE STOCK MARKET DAILEY-----WHY NOT HORSES IF TREATED FAIRLY?   THE TAX BENEFITS ARE SECOND TO NONE.   EVEN WITH A LOSS ---THE INVESTOR WINS ---PLEASE REVIEW THE SECTION 179 TAX CODE.  IT FITS RACING PERFECTLY---PAY TAXES OR GET REFUNDS DUE TO THE WRITEOFFS!!!

THEREFORE, I THINK VERY SOON SOME OTHER TRAINERS AND/OR OWNERS WILL PUT TOGETHER NEW PARTNERSHIPS FOR RACING.

THE DAY YOU WRITE THE CHECK---YOU WIN!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 04, 2020, 01:59:43 AM
Brown Jug and I agree with this the Takter, Burke, and Alagna spend to buy hoping to get that stallion. You get the racing earnings then millions for syndication. That gives you a five or six year window to get the next one. Doesn't make it any easier and sure not all the partners get involved or lucky to be on the right one. That's why these horses have 4 or 5 owners each. Spread and get on 10 instead of buying a few at 100%.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on November 04, 2020, 06:14:21 AM
Racing partnerships are the demise of the industry.  No returns for people.  Only helps big commercial stables.  at least 3 year investment proposition.  Keep money in the markets or get a claimer. have a better chance.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 04, 2020, 08:24:55 AM
Yep, I don't disagree with that statement.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Winners Win on November 04, 2020, 09:18:38 AM
Blue Chip buy back?

It has to be a buyback.  He has like 87 shares left.  He doesn't buy expensive horses as a flyer or value buys.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on November 05, 2020, 08:34:05 AM
Ah the buyback:  another wonderful way to inflate prices and take the little guys out of it.  Works for the breeders at the expense of others.  Don't want to sell it then put a reserve on it or don't put it in the sale.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 05, 2020, 09:34:04 AM
It has to be a buyback.  He has like 87 shares left.  He doesn't buy expensive horses as a flyer or value buys.
Blue Chip retains 10 shares, no bills, he tries to sell off the other shares with the added miscellaneous expenses,  they get a higher price , he get to train an expensive colt
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on November 05, 2020, 10:19:50 AM
yup
 definitely a pre arranged deal if the price was not high enough for blue chip
guess all the other bidders were getting a beer or taking a piss and this one got "stolen" at $115k
in the beginning the stable had a lot of blue chip horses and not one was any good
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on November 05, 2020, 10:30:18 AM
hes bought about 10 horses so far at harrisburg

good for anthony

,, tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 05, 2020, 10:53:18 AM
It's called racing not hoping to race. So doing your homework and claiming a few IMO is the way to go. Sure it's no guarantee but they have already shown they can race and then you will have to deal with what prior trainers did or did not do. I claimed this one mare and figured without any drastic changes I would enter her back in to see what's what and she won. Driver said she was good and it was probably just the change to your place from where she came from. Always believed in making and keeping them happy with lots of paddock time, the best of feed and careful observation.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on November 05, 2020, 11:20:03 AM
Racing partnerships are the demise of the industry.  No returns for people.  Only helps big commercial stables.  at least 3 year investment proposition.  Keep money in the markets or get a claimer. have a better chance.
5,000. 

Literally 5,0000 people own a piece of this year's Kentucky Derby winner at a cost equivalent to a small car payment

How can this possibly be bad?

Can you give us 50 words on this?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 05, 2020, 01:03:59 PM
My email inbox shows 6 bought but the day is early and I'm surprised he wasn't out bidding the Beachy Brothers stables yesterday on those 2,000 and 3,000 dollar horses. At 66 US a day that's great mark up.

Is it 5,000 or 5,0000? Yes, owning 1,000th of 1 share the unlimited possibilities are mind boggling. Well your 50 words on that is read the statement. Demise of industry/no returns/ only helps big breeders. So to translate yes the horse won the Kentucky Derby but his valuation was like 15mln if I remember. So no return. Selling shares into the 1,000th who does it help=the big commercial breeder.
The horse will have some breeding value with the Derby win but nothing like his sire. To your point yes 5,000 or 5,0000 can say I own a less then sliver of a Derby winner...nothing wrong with that. But understand the question posed.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on November 05, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
5,000. 

Literally 5,0000 people own a piece of this year's Kentucky Derby winner at a cost equivalent to a small car payment

How can this possibly be bad?

Can you give us 50 words on this?


this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on November 05, 2020, 01:20:07 PM

this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this this
I'd expect a cowardly response like this from Lyin' Cryin' Jim.

From you, I'm a tad disappointed. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on November 05, 2020, 01:21:37 PM
I'd expect a cowardly response like this from Lyin' Cryin' Jim.

From you, I'm a tad disappointed.

banned me had to get a new name
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on November 05, 2020, 01:23:52 PM
to grow can't bring 5000 in on 1 horse.  must bring 1000 to 5 horses
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 05, 2020, 01:42:55 PM
Poon butt hurt because he couldn't understand a question?  ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: COUNSELOR on November 05, 2020, 11:54:38 PM
RECALL LPG STANDARDBRED OR STANDARDBRED TROTTERS AND PACERS OR ALMAHURST LP1, 2,3,4,5.  THESE WERE ALL VERY SUCCESSFUL PARTNERSHIPS ON WALL STREET.   I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT NO ONE EVER RECEIVED A RETURN BUT THEY ALL HAD LOTS OF FUN AND MANY OWNERS WERE DEVELOPED THAT STARTED IN THESE PARTNERSHIPS. 

THERE WERE MANY WORLD CHAMPIONS DEVELOPED IN THESE PARTNERSHIPS!  ALL THREE ENTITIES WERE SOLD BY BROKERAGE HOUSES  TO THEIR CLIENTS ---MANY UNITS AVAILABLE AND SOLD AS A TAX SHELTER.   

WE PACKAGED PLANES, TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILES AND YES, HORSES!!  WAS A FUN TIME IN THE 1970'S!

NAMES LIKE LOU GUIDA---JOHN SIGNORELLI---MORTON FINDER---P.J. BAUGH TO NAME A FEW !

BROKERS WERE PAID 6-10% OF SALE TO PUT THEIR CLIENTS INTO THES DEALS.   THE MANAGERS WERE PAID APPROXIMATELY 20% --COST, ETC.   APPROXIMATELY 40% OF FUNDS RAISED WENT INTO HORSE FLESH.

NO DIFFERENT FROM POLARIS AIRCRAFT ,LLP AND OTHER ENTITIES!!!   THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WAS HORSES WERE THE VEHICLE INSTAND OF THE PLANES , TRAINS AND AUTOMOBILE!

COULD THIS BE DONE TODAY----ABSOLUTELY! 

THE TX BENEFITS OF HORSES ARE TREMENDOUS AND THEREFORE THESE PARTNERSHIPS WORK.  NOT SURE OF THE YOUNG MAN IN CANADA AND HOW HE RUNS HIS OPERATIONS .  I ONLY STATE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE OLD DAYS NOT THE CURRENT PARTNERSHIP THAT THIS YOUNG MAN IS PUTTING TOGETHER.   IT DOES NOT SEEM HE IS PTTING TOGETHER THE TAX ADVANTAGED PRODUCT HERE IN THE U.S. WHICH WOULD BE VERY LUCRATIVE.   WOULD BE A WAY TO BUILD A RACING STABLE VERY QUICKLY.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on November 06, 2020, 08:53:29 PM
Trump wins you have a tax shelter. Biden wins nope. Awful risky to be selling that aspect when no guarantees
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on November 20, 2020, 01:30:44 PM
http://ustrottingnews.com/thestable-ca-winter-open-house-goes-virtual/

THIS IS SO KOOL
 tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on November 20, 2020, 05:56:11 PM
Hard to believe the stable.ca and A-Mac didn't win the breeders fund elim at Dover tonight.  He did everything right.  I mean you should park a green 2yo trotter 3-wide to the quarter right?  He really has the stable's best interest at heart.  Has Jimmy King as trainer and decides he's better suited to drive than Jimmy's go-to driver...Timmy T.  What a joke this guy is!  Horse should win that division easily!  What an ego this guy has to not let Jimmy decide who drives.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on November 20, 2020, 06:14:09 PM
Horse earned $2400..by his own words the plane fare was $1000....add in all the other expenses and the ownership probably made less than $500....not as much as AM pocketed

Agree 100%.  Are these "investors" that clueless?  He had no need to come to Dover and drive.  Use Timmy for the final and you might get a nice piece of it.  A-Mac...STAY HOME!!!   Jim and Timmy have to be just laughing at you!  Timmy is a top guy anywhere...you are not!!!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on November 20, 2020, 06:31:02 PM
she's tricky to drive
 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on November 20, 2020, 06:32:03 PM
she's tricky to drive
 ngc3

That's why you let the pros handle it!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 20, 2020, 06:55:09 PM
AMac's ego is all that is important to him period. As long as he has his chumps paying the freight everything will go on. His next video will have ex Maple Leaf hockey players who he has as clients, that's a big deal, NOT. Since 1967 all Leaf players were losers so being clients of a losing investment is old school for them and is a natural fit.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on November 20, 2020, 07:12:52 PM
Iím a Philly flyers fan
And Boston bruins

Hate the leafs

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 21, 2020, 12:37:30 PM
Clients are dumb as they come and as he feast on there skin. He claimed to sell horse A by Harrisburg sale. Goes on ongait and apparently he says no one is calling. Not going to Amish the horse that is way past 100k in debt to investors. His theory that 12 others want to do this and to do that but his claims prior are at his and only his voice the horse sells.  Horse A since that time frame has been 6 weeks still not sold Harrisburg ended a week and a half ago horse has raced once and can't earn a check. At 66 a day even if he Amished the horse 6 weeks ago owners have well past that amount they would have gotten. I'm sure he is bullshitting and if he auction the horse buyers would pay 5 or 6k. Another two more weeks and that again takes owners to zero because of cost. So some are losing and one or two are making out. The more the guy speaks the more he comes off as a thief.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 22, 2020, 12:21:18 AM
Clients are dumb as they come and as he feast on there skin. He claimed to sell horse A by Harrisburg sale. Goes on ongait and apparently he says no one is calling. Not going to Amish the horse that is way past 100k in debt to investors. His theory that 12 others want to do this and to do that but his claims prior are at his and only his voice the horse sells.  Horse A since that time frame has been 6 weeks still not sold Harrisburg ended a week and a half ago horse has raced once and can't earn a check. At 66 a day even if he Amished the horse 6 weeks ago owners have well past that amount they would have gotten. I'm sure he is bullshitting and if he auction the horse buyers would pay 5 or 6k. Another two more weeks and that again takes owners to zero because of cost. So some are losing and one or two are making out. The more the guy speaks the more he comes off as a thief.
Heard there hasn't been a client receive a cheque yet so why start now
For entertainment purposes only, lube up and bend over
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 22, 2020, 10:15:20 AM
I'm pretty dammed sure the RCMP Fraud squad if they investigated would shut it down in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on November 22, 2020, 12:22:00 PM
Heard there hasn't been a client receive a cheque yet so why start now
For entertainment purposes only, lube up and bend over

I got mine

you heard wrong
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 22, 2020, 01:00:00 PM
Swandre could be Calhoun he has multiple names on here and his MO is take shots and disappear, just saying.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: pvcancamp on November 22, 2020, 01:36:13 PM
i have had a number of horses with the stable, i supported it because i thought the industry really needs something like this.   And i can offer the following facts
1)  i received ALL monies owed to me .
2) When i had a significant % of a horse and wanted to move it, Anthony either agreed to sell or bought my shares, for an acceptable amount
3) his driving skills are VERY limited
4) he has a VERY optimistic view on all horses, is happy with a horse that races even below a grass roots level
5) The combination of his over training babies and the terrible track is a major drawback
6)  HE is the best communicator in the industry,  answers calls, text, etc
7)  Some really dumb decisions are made, some ( much less likely) good ones are as well --- See what Argento was sold for and how he did after!
8)  the fun of watching the drone videos is a valuable tool
9)  he needs to stop eating while he does his videos
10 ) buyer beware don't use the stable if you want anything more than the ' experience'  feeding carrots, attending races
Facts   
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 22, 2020, 01:50:16 PM
So trotcanada are you out now?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on November 22, 2020, 01:58:59 PM
you are one of the most unreliable members of the forum....you only poke your head out when you are defending AM and then you never answer questions or use facts. What horse or horses do you own with AM?

Nah, I just point out when false claims are made

if that makes you upset, thatís on you, not me.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 22, 2020, 03:36:45 PM
If you want a pet go to Petsmart forget lining Anthony's pockets in this scam.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: pvcancamp on November 22, 2020, 03:47:28 PM
So trotcanada are you out now?

No-  i think he has a great program in OHIO  , buy cheap, good Entertainment for the winter.
its a hobby like going to the movies, his videos are hilarious
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on November 22, 2020, 07:05:12 PM
once again your refusal to answer a question

Who I own is irrelevant to the point in this instance. Iíve also previously mentioned here who I own 😄
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: canadian on November 22, 2020, 07:49:26 PM
No-  i think he has a great program in OHIO  , buy cheap, good Entertainment for the winter.
its a hobby like going to the movies, his videos are hilarious

Yeah. I'm thinking of getting my Dad a couple of shares in a horse. I'm not stupid, the chances of making $$ are very slim. But the bills seem very cheap compared to owning a cheap claimer in the maritimes. Dad can't do it himself anymore, but I think he would love checking the entries, watching the livestreams and the videos. It's not about the $$.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on November 22, 2020, 08:29:28 PM
as long as you go in eyes wide open and know what you a re getting into than go for it and enjoy
some people drink,smoke,gamble, movies  etc, if folks want to spend the disposable cash on this go for it
just don't expect to get a real good horse that makes money
although i guess you can all watch with interest as that trotter he paid $115 k for trains down to race
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 23, 2020, 12:52:50 AM
as long as you go in eyes wide open and know what you a re getting into than go for it and enjoy
some people drink,smoke,gamble, movies  etc, if folks want to spend the disposable cash on this go for it
just don't expect to get a real good horse that makes money
although i guess you can all watch with interest as that trotter he paid $115 k for trains down to race
How does that one look, has it trained or droned yet
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on November 23, 2020, 07:38:19 AM
For AM Its all about the $$$$$ (for him only)



Canít you tell me one business owner that is not trying to make money ??
Not sure about the rest of you but money is the main reason I go to work each day!!!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on November 23, 2020, 09:01:24 AM
he'll eventually weed them down to the big money clients that he can retire with.  just a numbers game now to find out who the big spenders are.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 23, 2020, 10:22:11 AM
If Ontario goes to a province wide lockdown in the days and weeks to come AM and TheStable are cooked. No more going out to feed your pets carrots but the bills will still come.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on November 23, 2020, 12:07:09 PM
im sure they will still be training their horses Ice.  Okay maybe no "stable visit" but that would be applicable to everyone, not just their clients. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on November 23, 2020, 12:58:53 PM
Golf.  How does he have millions of dollars never taking a salary
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on November 23, 2020, 01:07:52 PM
Golf.  How does he have millions of dollars never taking a salary




plays street dice tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on November 23, 2020, 01:43:39 PM
A-Mac up to drive for 100k on Tuesday at Dover.  Jimmy King must have faith in him using him over Tetrick  ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Stan durbread on November 24, 2020, 07:59:11 AM
Not a big fan of AMac , but he started this 3 years ago donít think he can afford to do it for free at this point . Owners using any kind of horses for an investment are in for a rough go at any level.   For my guys horses are what they spend their expendable income on instead of buying a boat. Donít get me wrong I am completely honest with my clients and have had a few fool me in the spring , some ended up much better than I thought some much worse. I also believe when they donít turn out as expected you should stop the bleeding as soon as possible
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 24, 2020, 08:03:54 AM
Not a big fan of AMac , but he started this 3 years ago donít think he can afford to do it for free at this point . Owners using any kind of horses for an investment are in for a rough go at any level.   For my guys horses are what they spend their expendable income on instead of buying a boat. Donít get me wrong I am completely honest with my clients and have had a few fool me in the spring , some ended up much better than I thought some much worse. I also believe when they donít turn out as expected you should stop the bleeding as soon as possible
You mean you don't milk the cow until its completely dry, the stable horses sre ruined beyond before they are finally sold, only a fool would buy one
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on November 24, 2020, 07:42:00 PM
A-Mac up to drive for 100k on Tuesday at Dover.  Jimmy King must have faith in him using him over Tetrick  ngc3

waiting for your critique of that drive ?   
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: titans1127 on November 24, 2020, 07:58:15 PM
waiting for your critique of that drive ?   
I honestly didn't think he should have been driving the horse going for that much money but he did everything right.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 24, 2020, 08:46:40 PM
Yes the horses card will show the 50% of that purse and not the minus the money that Anthony paid the other drives to lay back so he could win it going away.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: the real doctor on November 24, 2020, 09:13:46 PM
Yes the horses card will show the 50% of that purse and not the minus the money that Anthony paid the other drives to lay back so he could win it going away.

- the guy wins - probably more in that one race than you in your lifetime in this business since you havent done SFA  per your own admission for going on 30 plus years, and you post this crap - you say you have no animosity - so plain and simple - you are simply an old knob.  go ahead, reply and  tell us how you ran the roost until Bill Robinson ran you out - 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 24, 2020, 09:16:49 PM
Hey he wins once in awhile and the crew he was driving against are bums so the better bum won this night.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on November 24, 2020, 09:26:28 PM
iceman please you are embarrassing yourself
i am sure some small town drivers are going to lay down in a $100k race
also i don't think when they deposit the funds it states who you beat
regardless its a nice cash, weak program for sure but sometimes being the tallest midget pays off
give him his due tonight
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on November 24, 2020, 09:37:08 PM
No just screwing around. I wish they would lock this thread like they will to the doors to TheStable one day.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on November 25, 2020, 05:37:23 AM
I honestly didn't think he should have been driving the horse going for that much money but he did everything right.
Good things happen to good people
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on November 25, 2020, 10:50:58 AM
waiting for your critique of that drive ?   

A lot better than what he gave it in the elim.  Drove like he has a brain this week. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on November 25, 2020, 04:14:50 PM
Based on videos this year looks like newbie clients have asked lots of questions whether they seem relevant or not to AM he tends to shun them off being the captain of the ship. However for years or at least the last three they have grow some balls calling out his driving skills and wanting the horses that turn 3 off that marginal short half mile track. Some horses went to FL over the winter which in the long run didn't help maybe because the horses are marginal as well. Congrats they get a sire stake final win this year in the states. They only had 1 other horse out of the 60 something he picked in NA to have that chance. Better for the clients because AM used some of his shares of JJ parting with them to get some shares off the board with yearling purchases. So at least some owners benefitted with this win.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Sweet Louis on November 26, 2020, 03:53:26 AM
I knownhe gets numbers but he's always on a top horse but as far as talent he's well below Dunn... Miller...McCarthy to name a few...this fucking clown has no game plan going into races except make the front at all costs...I dont know why some connections use him...he killed Tattoos chances before they even got to the 1/4 and hes did it 500+ times this year with the same move...I know some will shrug at McCarthy but this guy wins more races with big odds than anyone
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 06, 2020, 05:47:44 AM
What's this I hear that they let a horse with strangles in to the barn.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on December 06, 2020, 12:05:01 PM
What's this I hear that they let a horse with strangles in to the barn.

the horse was on a trailer with another horse who has since tested positive
both horses tested negative prior to shipping.

also : not a stable.Ca horse but came to the same farm
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 06, 2020, 12:45:59 PM
Well let's just see how this plays out.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on December 07, 2020, 08:59:36 AM


 Every horse his wife always went with all year, turned out to be big fat ZERO's

 He gets paid big money to have these horses trained down- just for his hodgePodge of cheap help do the work for him.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on December 07, 2020, 09:47:26 AM
Why would he let outside horses on his farm, doesn't he have 100 of his own, why take a chance
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 07, 2020, 10:24:18 AM
There are 300 stalls at that training centre and I don't believe he owns that facility he just stables and trains there.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on December 07, 2020, 10:30:21 AM
There are 300 stalls at that training centre and I don't believe he owns that facility he just stables and trains there.
Was obviously misinformed,  that he owned it
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on December 08, 2020, 09:48:43 AM



 Imagine paying these crazy high training bills, only to have "Amy", "Johnny", "Cole" & a host of others who have little to no experience- be the ones to train your yearling down.

 I know in big barns- the head trainer doesn't go with each one all the time but for the love of god- get some quality help.

 His wife fcks every yearling she ever goes with.
 "This is Amys favorite, she gets along really good with this one" = the horse ends up not racing 2 y.o season.

 Amy says: "Its not fair I have a trotter going a set with pacers"= Amy you are not driving a go-kart, try to tone it down. They aren't your horses- try to train them down appropriately or GTFO the horse.


 "Johnny really likes this one" = His brother is the guy who lost his phone & let Casies texts come out about "DaShit", the guy has a head like a drive in movie screen & is now listed on Casies horses.
 Casie whined & packed up early & changed her tune re: BettingLine.


 They skimp on everything for the horses & the vet is giving them kickbacks on all the medication and work (I know this for fact).

 THEY AREN"T CHEAP on BUYING everything brand name for the kids/themselves, cars/trailers/house/trucks. When their stable is BLEEDING money each and every year.

 Soon the bottom will fall out of this, look @ their 100K Canadian Mrs.Merangue (he obv feels she isn't much stock at all, given her racing and how he talked about her in person, wait for the flop on "3pointBlueChip"
 (it was bought on a deal with Mr.Grossman- not even close to being paid for yet, 3points bills are going to be skyhigh this year too, he needs to send that to a real trainer ASAP)
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on December 08, 2020, 10:32:42 AM
valid points
and to add that track is no bargain either
take poorly conformed horses and put them on a shitty track and hope for the best
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 08, 2020, 12:31:29 PM
Yes all valid points. That track is terrible and it gets frost boils all the time which limits any serious training. As I said all along how can these investors not see it for the scam it is.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on December 08, 2020, 04:12:10 PM


 Imagine paying these crazy high training bills, only to have "Amy", "Johnny", "Cole" & a host of others who have little to no experience- be the ones to train your yearling down.

 I know in big barns- the head trainer doesn't go with each one all the time but for the love of god- get some quality help.

 His wife fcks every yearling she ever goes with.
 "This is Amys favorite, she gets along really good with this one" = the horse ends up not racing 2 y.o season.

 Amy says: "Its not fair I have a trotter going a set with pacers"= Amy you are not driving a go-kart, try to tone it down. They aren't your horses- try to train them down appropriately or GTFO the horse.


 "Johnny really likes this one" = His brother is the guy who lost his phone & let Casies texts come out about "DaShit", the guy has a head like a drive in movie screen & is now listed on Casies horses.
 Casie whined & packed up early & changed her tune re: BettingLine.


 They skimp on everything for the horses & the vet is giving them kickbacks on all the medication and work (I know this for fact).

 THEY AREN"T CHEAP on BUYING everything brand name for the kids/themselves, cars/trailers/house/trucks. When their stable is BLEEDING money each and every year.

 Soon the bottom will fall out of this, look @ their 100K Canadian Mrs.Merangue (he obv feels she isn't much stock at all, given her racing and how he talked about her in person, wait for the flop on "3pointBlueChip"
 (it was bought on a deal with Mr.Grossman- not even close to being paid for yet, 3points bills are going to be skyhigh this year too, he needs to send that to a real trainer ASAP)

Takes a real scumbag to judge people on what they spend money on in their personal lives

their vehicles are both at least 4 years old
trailer is old 

try worrying about yourself this holiday season ✌️
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 08, 2020, 05:49:51 PM
Iceman there last two seasons training down babies has  been detrimental to babies being lost even before the stages of asking for speed or getting under that 2:20. They fall behind with harsh weather the past couple years then try jamming speed into them late in the stage on a short half mile track. That's a lot of pounding on young horses knees and it shows down the road. I want to say 40% of those yearlings were laid up and some ended coming back later in the season.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 08, 2020, 06:05:16 PM
I should state to be fair those clay tracks in FL aren't the best for babies and suspensory injuries.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on December 08, 2020, 06:23:26 PM
Takes a real scumbag to judge people on what they spend money on in their personal lives

their vehicles are both at least 4 years old
trailer is old 

try worrying about yourself this holiday season ✌️
tmbz1

There's not a lot of integrity on the part of AM haters Kole, Golf and Lyin' Jim B. on this thread.

They just cannot stand the fact that ANYBODY can own a piece of a horse enjoy the experience and lose 99% less than they do.

Lyin' Jim especially will attack you, try to count your money for the bazillionth time and tell you that you have "no skin in the game" which has an expected ROI of minus 100 percent.

Then when the used horse sale comes up, they deride other owners while talking to each other in code and keeping their staggering losses a secret.

Ok... now, let's hear from my faithful pigeons now...  horses (Lyin' Jim) first ... you can go first.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 08, 2020, 06:32:18 PM
I'm just surprised you can spell integrity and use it in a sentence! Nobody lies more on this site then you yourself poon. I can really care less about your dribble. You never once answered the real horses you may have owned without some fractional ownership or a stable in MI you clearly were not part of...just lies and more lies. Prove me wrong and just name horses you have owned...pretty simple? I'm not afraid to list the 50 or more yearlings I have purchased over 12 years. Man UP! No more lying poon.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: slivercharm on December 08, 2020, 09:52:35 PM
Takes a real scumbag to judge people on what they spend money on in their personal lives

their vehicles are both at least 4 years old
trailer is old 

try worrying about yourself this holiday season ✌️

Takes a bigger scumbag to judge what other people post on horseplop in their free time as it pertains to their personal lives

Worry about yourself and not what others post on this site

AM is a train wreck yes his wife and family sucks yes but if morons keep giving this guy money sucks to be them the house will fall eventually though

When that happens u can stop blowing him and posting on this worthless forum
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on December 09, 2020, 07:42:57 AM
Takes a bigger scumbag to judge what other people post on horseplop in their free time as it pertains to their personal lives

Worry about yourself and not what others post on this site

AM is a train wreck yes his wife and family sucks yes but if morons keep giving this guy money sucks to be them the house will fall eventually though

When that happens u can stop blowing him and posting on this worthless forum

nah, Iím not a scumbag for calling out trolls posting on the internet about what kind of clothes people are buying for their kids. That shit is downright creepy. when youíre an adult and youíre looking at pictures of kids and what clothes theyíre wearing and judging itís time to seek profession help for your obsession. thatís some stalker shit.

stalking someoneís kids because you donít like the way they do things is alarming. pretty low even for cowards like you guys.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 09, 2020, 08:25:07 AM
I should state to be fair those clay tracks in FL aren't the best for babies and suspensory injuries.
Good point. It amazes me what happens after these babies leave the sales. Up to the point of sale their stabling, feed, paddocks are upper Park Avenue and then they go to where they will be broken and trained and many of them are dumps. What is worse is that with AM you have no say as an investor so here it doesn't matter if the horse is high priced with good conformation or a bargain basement horse with some problems there is a better than good chance you end up with a mishandled broken down dud.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on December 09, 2020, 09:54:04 AM
yes folks lets stick to comments on horses and not personal judgements  on people's family etc
 a little class please
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: wiggles44 on December 10, 2020, 10:06:59 AM
Class on horseplop.....
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on December 12, 2020, 09:01:19 AM
http://ustrottingnews.com/date-change-for-thestable-ca-virtual-winter-open-house/
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on December 12, 2020, 09:02:54 AM
big time hockey players now with the stable


good job

a mac tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 12, 2020, 09:27:04 AM
 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 The Stable A.A. their all drunks on the wagon.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: RWB on December 12, 2020, 09:43:20 AM
http://ustrottingnews.com/date-change-for-thestable-ca-virtual-winter-open-house/

I'm just guessing here but i doubt the 3 of them invested a dollar....AMac gave them free shares as a promotion for his scam.....get more suckers to invest using former players


Also......I bet Anthony's lifestyle has improved significantly in the past 5 years....because he was starving before that trying to make a living as a terrible driver/trainer on a competitive circuit.........I give him all the credit for finding a get rich plan...It worked!!
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 12, 2020, 11:12:20 AM
Good point. I do know before all this and he was definitely struggling any money he borrowed he did pay back once he got this scam going. Also Mark turned his back to him.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Parked on December 12, 2020, 11:32:06 AM
I should state to be fair those clay tracks in FL aren't the best for babies and suspensory injuries.

So you are saying a rough, frozen, stonedust track where corks are usually a necessity are better for a baby than a well groomed clay track ??? I have trained on them all from Upstate NY to NC to Ga to south Fl.  If I canít afford to send a horse to at Least N C  I will stop buying yearlings. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 12, 2020, 11:44:25 AM
Your investment is the total package and there is no reason you can't keep your training track in tip top shape even in winter unless you're lazy.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on December 12, 2020, 12:23:38 PM
I'm just guessing here but i doubt the 3 of them invested a dollar....AMac gave them free shares as a promotion for his scam.....get more suckers to invest using former players


Also......I bet Anthony's lifestyle has improved significantly in the past 5 years....because he was starving before that trying to make a living as a terrible driver/trainer on a competitive circuit.........I give him all the credit for finding a get rich plan...It worked!!
Most definitely making himself a very comfortable living in a time where others struggle, if he's smart he should be able to retire anytime and live out his years debt and stress free
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 12, 2020, 01:09:26 PM
Parked, that was part two of a comment made on a lot of injuries that were suffered at the training centre the stable trains over. After I thought about it just wanted to be fair the clay tracks with two year old training down suffer suspensory injuries. That just comes from vets and owners over the years with horses that go down. Vets say the track with the crushed sea shells much better a surface to train down on. Clay tracks are fine for horses that are three and older as they foundation and those areas maybe developed? Just going off their feedback. As far as the stable breakdowns going off the stable videos from AM.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on December 18, 2020, 08:02:32 PM
Parked, that was part two of a comment made on a lot of injuries that were suffered at the training centre the stable trains over. After I thought about it just wanted to be fair the clay tracks with two year old training down suffer suspensory injuries. That just comes from vets and owners over the years with horses that go down. Vets say the track with the crushed sea shells much better a surface to train down on. Clay tracks are fine for horses that are three and older as they foundation and those areas maybe developed? Just going off their feedback. As far as the stable breakdowns going off the stable videos from AM.
How fast were they going today
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 18, 2020, 08:30:20 PM
No idea a lot of breakers and many trotters already with trotting hopples on. Only watched 5 or 6 sets.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on December 18, 2020, 08:51:59 PM
Will be starting a go fund me for yearling next year named horseplop. Feel free to donate anonymously  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on December 18, 2020, 10:09:10 PM
who cares how fast they were going
who cares how fast anyones are going right now
ask that question at the end of april or later  when it matters
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Bernie Madoff on December 30, 2020, 02:27:45 PM
A little over $10.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 30, 2020, 03:19:17 PM
Does anyone know what the total purse winnings were for Stable.Ca for 2020?
AM a little over $200k after taxes, the investors took it on the chin or up the ass whatever they preferred.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 30, 2020, 05:50:12 PM
Golfhbm last year in a toward the end of stake season in Nov they had a video that Kelly put together with stats and once the total and more important how low per start earnings...AM goes there you go people will latch on that low total. So my guess you will not find the stable.ca putting out numbers not favorable to the huge losses despite this is for entertainment value.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 30, 2020, 06:54:29 PM
Earnings less expenses with TheStable equals LOSS, LOSS, LOSS I don't care how AM spins it. Now what AM is skimming that's another story.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 30, 2020, 07:09:17 PM
More fake list and please you actually have someone to text you....another fake story. Poon spending that 95 bucks in big years way. Home alone drinking his loneliness away.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on December 30, 2020, 07:09:32 PM
And by the way... 

IceFag, Lyin Jim Butfker/horse firts and old.golf.guy ... you been at this for 8 months and 99 pages... and y'all still asking the same dumbass shit and never get no closer.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Mazola on December 30, 2020, 07:11:03 PM
I'm just guessing here but i doubt the 3 of them invested a dollar....AMac gave them free shares as a promotion for his scam.....get more suckers to invest using former players


Also......I bet Anthony's lifestyle has improved significantly in the past 5 years....because he was starving before that trying to make a living as a terrible driver/trainer on a competitive circuit.........I give him all the credit for finding a get rich plan...It worked!!
Thats why you have a bunch of jealous people posting here. Otherwise, who gives a fuck.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 31, 2020, 01:21:04 AM
Poon can't resist his fake ignore list lol ngc3. Comes out crying like the little 59 year old baby he is. A no nothing 1/2 here or 1000th of 1 share there. Some big shot in a MI stable that wasn't his nor any ties to. Lying poon boy the biggest liar on plop and just have to call him out as he lies about everyone one else. Make just your buddy texts you the whole message since I'm on ignore ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 31, 2020, 06:51:28 AM
More and more posters are speaking out the truth on Coon Boy this lying bull shitting son of a bitch (literally) bull shitted his way to be a mod. His big story of owning a share in Authentic is nothing more than when a few years back the Green Bay Packers sold shares in the team, they held no value other than it was something to put on your wall. Maybe we should sell shares in Coon Boy and then we could hang him from a tall Oak.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Bernie Madoff on December 31, 2020, 07:39:38 AM
And by the way... 

IceFag, Lyin Jim Butfker/horse firts and old.golf.guy ... you been at this for 8 months and 99 pages... and y'all still asking the same dumbass shit and never get no closer.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3









 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 31, 2020, 08:43:02 AM
Another one who escaped the oven.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 31, 2020, 09:30:16 AM
Yes a thank you on the 15mln valuation with KD and BC earnings nowhere close to getting a check. Maybe down the road with the breeding fees some money will trickle in. But hey one can say they owned 1,000th of 1 share of a Derby winner...how awesome is that!  ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 31, 2020, 09:59:51 AM
Coon Boy did a B&E and came across the certificate for Authentic and scooped it then the dumb MF comes on here and brags about he bought it.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 31, 2020, 11:30:12 AM
Doesn't matter anyone could have bought into that for just over 200 dollars. Maybe 240 don't remember the exact amount. My point POON has claimed many times to own horses and says it on the board its BS. He is all lie and fluff but that's what you get from someone from the surrounding hometown around Detroit.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on December 31, 2020, 04:12:39 PM

You cry worse than 3 fat girls at an Adele concert.

shes terrible

over hyped fat girl
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Harness Stats on December 31, 2020, 04:59:19 PM
Dude she's lost like a hundred pounds ..   Fact ...  I don't listen to her but she ain't fat no mo
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on December 31, 2020, 07:35:21 PM
Poon bitch just confirms his iggy list is BS. No crying here just out to prove a point by the poon lying game.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on December 31, 2020, 11:44:45 PM
The poon bitch lies so often even if he tried to tell the truth he wouldn't know it nor can anyone believe him either way.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on January 01, 2021, 04:48:42 PM
You guys mock and you joke but he has found the goose that laid the golden egg he preys one the naive and will find freedom forty five on just the gift of the gab and talk his way into a very comfortable early retirement
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 02, 2021, 01:36:05 PM
See the stable is putting another group together because he has 13 horses yet unsold and doesn't want a repeat of 2020 holding shares through staking season. So he throws in his shares of White Tiger at a price that he couldn't get if he sold him. So why not pilfer from his clients. The guy steals over 7k from the Lexington sale pumping up the prices for his stay(which ended up with his brother already there), travel, food, and looking at horses while shooting a minute video. The guy claims buying 8 or 9 figures in a dollar amount and buys 17 or more and not adjusting the prior sale amount. Thief! The clown in Mar and April through summer interviews claiming with covid and sports not playing it's time for harness racing and a new wave of fans and bettors. All talk he went on about his racing and bad drives with just political talk to butter up to the industry.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on January 02, 2021, 01:59:28 PM
those figures are true
if you do the math he did steal from clients at lexington and likely timonium
and yes throwing in his white tiger shares tells you all you need to know about that horse
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 02, 2021, 05:15:17 PM
Last year well summer of 19 he had a group that didn't want horses going to Bates. His first choice was Culliper but he said he had a full barn and Scott said no. Both of those recommended by Harris. A trio of juicers. Yes ended up doing well as we don't test at Yonkers for Miller. I'm still taken back the fool thinks the stable had a great year😂😂😂. Smoke and mirrors like regulations in China.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on January 02, 2021, 06:27:20 PM
ah ha
yes golf, now you are starting to get it ( your point # 2)
and lets see how yes does at meadows, so far not so great but only 1 start
and there was no need to claim that horse, just a bad move but  the minions followed and will now get burned
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 03, 2021, 10:45:15 AM
Last year well summer of 19 he had a group that didn't want horses going to Bates. His first choice was Culliper but he said he had a full barn and Scott said no. Both of those recommended by Harris. A trio of juicers. Yes ended up doing well as we don't test at Yonkers for Miller. I'm still taken back the fool thinks the stable had a great year😂😂😂. Smoke and mirrors like regulations in China.


your sayin

erv..harris,,cullipher are juicers?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 03, 2021, 11:14:02 AM
If you read correctly the trio was Culliper, Scott, and Harris.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 03, 2021, 01:03:34 PM
Mostly everyone pre races with something or other

I think the scam with a Mac I will go on for as long as people want a small share of a horse

Donít know who Scott is
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 03, 2021, 02:47:43 PM
Scott George maybe he goes by Tyler?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: half round full swedge on January 05, 2021, 02:24:47 PM
Greatest topic in plop history.  tmbz1 Can a brotha get to a hundred pages. Must be doing something right  tmbz1
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 05, 2021, 03:35:54 PM
Golfhbm, a top trainer at Wind Gap wasn't happy Harrah's and Pocono let in a lot of out of state horses to race during the
shutdown days. Wonder how the Meadows horseman will take this if the stable starts shuttling down horses. I suspect fields
to be full and a harder time getting in since they are neither PA bred or PA owned. Since they race under the stable name they
can't hide ownership. Some of these mules will probably fit some softer conditions or softer fields but I see AM can't let others
race these horses in a qualifier leaving the babies to second rate horsemen.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Kole Hanover on January 10, 2021, 04:17:36 PM

 

 AMac the Stable is invadin' the U.S.A with a force

 Brave World (who they paid about 90K CAD for) is in the 30K USD claiming series @ Miami Valley.

 He backed through the whole field while racing from the outside in 4th.

 Imagine the bills they are receiving from all of the shipping/vet bills alone, not to mention Bill Rhodes training fee monthly.

 what is 1% of nothing?

 on top of all the bills to boot...
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 10, 2021, 04:20:30 PM
Horse looked like he hasnít been trained

Not good
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 10, 2021, 05:15:30 PM
Brave World couldn't beat bottom claimers at Monti what a joke.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 10, 2021, 06:13:46 PM
Someone needs to explain why AM even cares as every month he gets his cut

what cut? If the horse is in the USA the owners pay that trainer and that trainer only. if he had sat in Ontario in a stall for 2 months during a shutdown AM would have got that training bill

can you describe to me the sensation you feel when posting something you donít have a single clue about? how does that feel?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 10, 2021, 06:16:55 PM


 AMac the Stable is invadin' the U.S.A with a force

 Brave World (who they paid about 90K CAD for) is in the 30K USD claiming series @ Miami Valley.

 He backed through the whole field while racing from the outside in 4th.

 Imagine the bills they are receiving from all of the shipping/vet bills alone, not to mention Bill Rhodes training fee monthly.

 what is 1% of nothing?

 on top of all the bills to boot...

would you mind listing us trainers who arenít charging shipping/vet/training bills?
that comment wasnít too well thought out was it?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 10, 2021, 06:59:22 PM
So genius how I can call you that when a genius would have gotten out a long time ago so you must be in the hole big time.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 10, 2021, 08:04:31 PM
Sadly mistaken and consistent, how about just SAD.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 10, 2021, 11:05:58 PM
yeeeeah the thing about that is : Iíve had horses down there. I know how the billing works. you two clowns ride in the same clown car? or do you both have unicycles?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 11, 2021, 12:31:11 AM
Nah they just arenít racing right now.

AM collects the money from owners and it goes directly to the trainer. thereís no Ďcutí

come on guys, your New Years resolution should have been to be smarter.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 11, 2021, 07:53:53 AM
does any of AM 2 or 3 yr olds have any shot ata sires championship ?

i dont follow he lists..

so i dont know

dos he stake heavy?

does bluegrass stake for him or does he do it and charges clients

directly?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on January 11, 2021, 10:28:35 AM
in fairness I guess nobody noticed Stonebridge  symba won again sunday night
check out his earnings his last 10 starts
and yes I am well aware he is not trained by the stable per say
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 11, 2021, 11:06:35 AM
Other trainers get get them to go where Anthony and his clowns can't. They should call their stable "Fuck A Horse Racing Stable"
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on January 11, 2021, 11:24:42 AM
Other trainers get get them to go where Anthony and his clowns can't. They should call their stable "Fuck A Horse Racing Stable"

Sound familiar?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 11, 2021, 11:45:31 AM
The Queer Fuck has surfaced again ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 11, 2021, 11:48:23 AM
does any of AM 2 or 3 yr olds have any shot ata sires championship ?

i dont follow he lists..

so i dont know

dos he stake heavy?

does bluegrass stake for him or does he do it and charges clients

directly?
I'll root for Willtowin Hanover ... Cantab 2FT Pennsy bred.

May God Bless you and your recovery.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 11, 2021, 01:24:39 PM
Other trainers get get them to go where Anthony and his clowns can't. They should call their stable "Fuck A Horse Racing Stable"

looks to me like their top earners over the last 2 years were in-fact trained by Stable trainers. want to try again? Or are you just gonna keep posting the same silly comments every few weeks?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 11, 2021, 01:28:30 PM
So lets see, first you say that the owners pay the trainers directly in the States and now you say that AM collects the money. Sure sounds like you are in the know. AM doe NOTHING for free. Wonder why he never explains Brave World, Stormont Wizard, etc.?
As far as Sires Stakes Champions I am guessing he had less than 10, no make that 5 horses last year that covered their expenses. Pretty sad when you consider he had 150+ in the stable.
He should change the name from thestable.ca to myracket.ca  so at least he has truth in advertising.

the money goes from the owner to the trainer via Anthony. , are you dense?  If you send me your address Iíll draw out a diagram and mail it to you. just use your brain. if the horse is sitting in Ontario he collects the full bill, if it goes to the USA to race he earns nothing. everyone likes to throw the word Ďscamí around but no one even knows what theyíre  talking about. par for the course on this forum though I suppose
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 11, 2021, 02:21:43 PM
the money goes from the owner to the trainer via Anthony. , are you dense?  If you send me your address Iíll draw out a diagram and mail it to you. just use your brain. if the horse is sitting in Ontario he collects the full bill, if it goes to the USA to race he earns nothing. everyone likes to throw the word Ďscamí around but no one even knows what theyíre  talking about. par for the course on this forum though I suppose

Stop dude Iíve in the business 20 fckin yrs

Itís a scam  period ...

Donít explain nothin

Itís a scam
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 11, 2021, 03:33:21 PM
Iíve been in it longer than 20 years.

google ďsupply and demandĒ maybe youíll understand how the world works.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 11, 2021, 03:51:34 PM
And I've been in it more than double that. Maybe you should Google Titanic because you are going down with the ship.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 11, 2021, 04:37:34 PM
Stop dude Iíve in the business 20 fckin yrs

Itís a scam  period ...

Donít explain nothin

Itís a scam
Had a bad year + the Covid

If he (or anyone like him) gets a 3 yo to the Hambo, it will be the biggest party harness racing has ever seen.

It would have happened for sure with Authentic going for the Triple Crown.

I just don't see 1 Single Thing that can be bad about Spend a Little // Get All The Fun concept.

Unless you just hate the guy or are a bust out. 

God Bless Your Recovery, 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 11, 2021, 08:35:08 PM
The training bill itself should be more transparent other then. Its column of training bill and the cost for the month. When horses are shipping to different states and different trainers within a month your getting different daily rates. One horse I had went from ONT to IL to OH in same billing cycle. With totals in CDN you have to then convert. They can make it simpler if a horse is with Twaddle for the month it shows 30◊45. Assuming that is Twaddle charge but that's the average rate at the Meadows. No stall rent unless your training babies down. Otherwise if this passes through the stable you have to wonder if it's the 66 a day they charge which I assume has stall rent, whatever they came up with for droning sessions and whatever else for extras, because 66US for that outfit when the CEO/trainer/driver admits openly on his videos he doesn't get up til 8am. How many trainers who have 5 to 50 get to the track at 9am or later? He has over 100 head? His 2nd and 3rd down the list are those the ones you want watching over the stable empire while you get some extra zzz's. So we know he hates the rain, the mud, and getting up with the rooster's. I'm still waiting on his huge plans since Mar to bring in all these new bettors and owners to this wondering game since Pro sports have been displaced. Yet in 1 month after the market crash 5mln people opened a new trading account. Since then 10mln. I can tell you easily where the bettors went with no trading fees in and out, while they could buy fractional shares of high priced stocks like a TSLA, and only have made money. Why would anyone waste time with horse racing if they know little about the industry and its horrible ROR?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: titans1127 on January 11, 2021, 10:00:20 PM
Twaddle charges $2500 a month for training.  Overpriced for the stats he produces.  Especially since you get stuck with AMac driving the horses most of the time too.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 11, 2021, 10:09:33 PM
You are right, the training bill ($4000) goes to AM who in turn send $3000 to the trainer in the States. I guess you forgot to add the little details of money or do you really think AM is just being a nice guy and is nothing more than a clearing house?  Do you also think that AM is eating the cost of driving to The Meadows, driving the horses, stating overnight and meal expenses because he first has the best interest of the owners. If thats the case explain to me why Twaddle needs AM for anything?
I also notice that once again you FAIL to comment on how many horses covered their expenses in 2020. As far as Stonegridge Symba I would not be surprised that the $44K made covered everything and if so barely.

except I know what I pay and what certain trainers charge.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 11, 2021, 10:10:13 PM
And I've been in it more than double that. Maybe you should Google Titanic because you are going down with the ship.

donít you guys say this every year but then 40+ show up in the barn?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 11, 2021, 10:55:05 PM

in my opinion you should own a minimum of 10% of any horse so you have some skin in the game.

This. Is.  Why.  Your.  Opinion.  Is.  Awful.

Because you worry about other peoples money.

What makes you the Ayatollah of minimum percentage?

Why not 8%?

12% sounds good too, right?









Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on January 11, 2021, 10:58:57 PM
Agree, you can own 10% of a decent one and keep your initial investment and monthly charges at a minimum. 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on January 11, 2021, 11:36:58 PM
It's definitely a scam...but who cares what people want to do with their own money.  Everyone knows buying 1% of a horse isn't about getting rich or even making money.  It's for the experience.  Maybe it's to be part of the game, maybe it's see if you eventually want to invest real money.  I'm jealous I didn't come up with the idea.  Even if it does come to an end, the man has probably made a bunch.  He certainly wasn't going to make it on his driving or training skills.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on January 11, 2021, 11:52:04 PM
I am not looking for an argument but if your first experience was the AM program based on what would make you invest real money?
Don't be jealous that you did not come up with the idea unless you think larceny is a good trait. Myself, I like to sleep at night.

I disagree it's larceny...I think he's selling dreams.  A bunch of people that want to be apart of the game and either can't afford to or a scared to invest.  And to answer your question, nothing about his program would make me want to invest anything.  I think it's a joke and I think he is a horrible horseman.  I do think he came up with a decent idea to make money...for himself only.  Again, I think it's a total scam...but not illegal.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: deracingfan on January 12, 2021, 01:32:00 AM
That is exactly the appearance he is trying to create.  That he is getting others interested in the game, when in fact he is only lining his own pockets.  I completely agree that is at best unethical.  And 1% ownership seems a little absurd.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 12, 2021, 09:13:13 AM
I remember when Kelly Spencer left Grand River Raceway where she was their media mgr and it appeared she was hired by Anthony to handle all his media for TheStable. That was just a front her joining them she in fact is billing them monthly for her services and is not in their employ. No doubt her billings are part of the padded bills.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on January 12, 2021, 10:31:12 AM
SAM THE SHAM AND THE PHARAOS
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 12, 2021, 11:46:12 AM
That is exactly the appearance he is trying to create.  That he is getting others interested in the game, when in fact he is only lining his own pockets.  I completely agree that is at best unethical.  And 1% ownership seems a little absurd.


didnít the winner of the Kentucky Derby have thousands of shares for sale? I donít see what the big deal is personally
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 12, 2021, 11:47:20 AM
It never ceases to amaze how you completely ignore 80% of all questions but seem to continually state that you know the facts when in fact you know nothing regardless of how much you like to pound your chest and love to read your own dribble

😘
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 12, 2021, 11:54:51 AM
SAM THE SHAM AND THE PHARAOS
I'm giving AM's detractors and haters another 50 pages to move the story along. That's more than fair.

Then I'm out.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on January 12, 2021, 12:01:23 PM
I'm giving AM's detractors and haters another 50 pages to move the story along. That's more than fair.

Then I'm out.

IT WILL NEVER CATCH MINE
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 12, 2021, 12:04:02 PM
IT WILL NEVER CATCH MINE ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
ngc3 ngc3
Not in 1000 yeats.

LucPark Staple Report distanced.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 12, 2021, 12:18:05 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how it's bad to have 500 people own Wiggle It when he was a world champ/multiple Dan Patch winner.   

How it's awful that thousands of people got bamboozled while owning the KY Derby-BC Classic-HoTY Authentic.

 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 12, 2021, 01:21:14 PM
what about Brave World? didnít he get parked out the other day and didnít finish well? what do you want me to do about it? lol

The other horse youíre referencing I know nothing about. perhaps something bad happened to him? injury? couldnít tell ya.

I understand the model isnít for you. thatís just fine.
but some people enjoy it, Iím sorry that upsets you.

I donít enjoy Starbucks enough to pay $7
but if you do, great! drive on
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 12, 2021, 01:37:02 PM
If you happen to hit the lottery that does not make you a math genius. 
I hit it twice with WIJI and Authentic. 

I don't care what you say. You don't make any sense.

You only hate AM and want to count other people's money.

85% of McDoald's first  time owners came back for more.

You must have gotten destroyed in the business,,, only explanation possible.

I don't know what other people have lost or made with AM.  And I don't care.  Only people who like to hate and count other people's money  - like you - care about that.

You quoting percentages of losers and $ amounts is  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Does this assist your understanding/

We're here to help.


 
 
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on January 12, 2021, 01:41:45 PM
TheStable.Ca = great value with lots of fun. Going to be a breakthrough year, owners will be  43xc.2 at all the tracks.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 12, 2021, 01:47:14 PM
1% share in ownership is not skin in the game only on paper like in bills. I really doubt any of these small timers will ever see any money and likely won't even get a Kodak just excuses and mounting bills. Maybe Revenue Canada can clear up the picture or the RCMP Fraud Squad.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 12, 2021, 01:51:41 PM
Breaking News...... Swandre is actually a AM employee and that's a fact so Swandre your gig is up. AM has been signing your paycheque for you and that's why many times you can't answer questions. You came on here just to sing his praises which is BS.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 12, 2021, 02:29:57 PM
Breaking News...... Swandre is actually a AM employee and that's a fact so Swandre your gig is up. AM has been signing your paycheque for you and that's why many times you can't answer questions. You came on here just to sing his praises which is BS.

I used to think you were wrong often

now Iím wondering if youíve ever been correct at all
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 12, 2021, 02:50:22 PM
That's right fuck face keep deflecting. Nothing you say is anything but BS covering for AM
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on January 12, 2021, 03:08:54 PM
That's right fuck face keep deflecting. Nothing you say is anything but BS covering for AM

Agreed.  Sticks up for the guy so he can go miles with the stock while AM burns cash elsewhere.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 12, 2021, 04:48:05 PM
Brave World....a 90K purchase should piss on 30 claimers unless AM is involved

Since you seem to have so much info on the insight of Stable.ca would you might letting us all know who signs your paycheck....could it be............... ............
JP Morgan Chase
Fidelity
Mesirow Wealth Management
TransAmerica
The guy renting my house in Marthas Vineyard.

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 12, 2021, 05:36:07 PM
.
I have no idea where you get the 85% number

Like you I am here to help you out but I can't out which way you came in.

I was wrong on the 85%.  It was 95%.  You can Goggle it.  tmbz1

So, should we believe you and your 3 sobbing friends? Or these guys:

Mark Weaver said "The decision to invest was simple. Ronnie and I love what the MacDonalds are doing with thestable.ca."

That's Mark Weaver, Ron Burke and Tony Sorello who bought in.  ngc3 ngc3

You can Goggle that too.

You and your wailing fellow losers?  Or Burke and friends?

We get it... you and others are old and think young people like MacDonald are ruining your sport.  You got it backwards, old son. 

We blame you.

Jesus Tapdancing Christ

Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 13, 2021, 12:09:37 PM
I enter the stable 2.5 years ago and they were closing in on 800 clients since the start in 2015. In 2020 there over th 800 number so the growth has slowed considerably. Also watching videos owners of shares have been more critical and have asked many questions while trying to understand the business. The last two yearling cycles AM has leaned heavily on his biggest share holders were he has to have given special deals to get rid of shares. Of all the clients no one knows how many are active or just hold pat with past now older horses. Where does it say Burke is involved with the stable? They have been in the past with one or two as the stable may break the horse Burke takes it and races. No one says getting a small amount of skin in the game is bad buts it's bad when you buy more horses then needed at those week long sales only to drive up the charges on your clients. All the excuses given for poor performance with "allergies" being by far the largest use excuse for two summers in a row. I've been in this business for 12 years and never once had a trainer say allergies unless it was due to bedding. He would be more credible when he says he knows zip on pedigree and bloodlines yet when sales come he throws pedigree around like he's Norman Hall. People on the outside or inside can criticize the stable. Believe many in the industry criticize the stable on many levels of what it is not.

AM chimes in on what HE is going to do with the early virus crisis with major league sports. He has failed to do anything and sports have come back in the meantime...with limit fans in the seats. Yet 10mln people have registered trading accounts. It's a much better time to make real money in the Biden era of solar, ev's, hydrogen, while printing money and lowering the dollar BITCOIN and all the blockchain involved with crypto. Plus there are NO trading fees and YOU can get out of any position without AM controlling your purse strings. It's been a great ride that should continue. Unlike horse racing with track closing, can't go to the barns, horses are off limits, but your claims of this post are wrong no one is sobbing as they give opinions which you seem to chime in with instead of the easier option of...just keep scrolling.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 13, 2021, 01:51:12 PM
"My 3 friends thought it would be fun.  They didn't have fun."

Yes, that is sobbing.  It sounds like a 6 year old who didn't enjoy the first birthday party he attended.  75 year olds should either know better or just move on.

how'd your mare sell at the used horse sale?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 13, 2021, 07:03:31 PM
Calpoon has no electricity in the Maytag box.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 13, 2021, 08:51:36 PM
I didn't sell a mare? Maybe Luc needs to feed better info to people?
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on January 13, 2021, 09:10:58 PM
I didn't sell a mare? Maybe Luc needs to feed better info to people?

EVERYTHING HE AXED ME TO POST HAS BEEN LEGIT
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 13, 2021, 10:17:57 PM
I didn't sell a mare? Maybe Luc needs to feed better info to people?

I never mentioned your horses or anything you race.

Period

I asked you on pm howís your  Indy colt  doing  last month other than that I know nothin about your mare coladaí. I have a new trainer for my babies


Nor do I care about Anthony Mac stable

Or how he runs his pyramid scheme

Good night boys

Unfortunately Iím still in covid mode for three weeks now
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Fatboy on January 13, 2021, 10:29:15 PM
I never mentioned your horses or anything you race.

Period

I asked you on pm howís your  Indy colt  doing  last month other than that I know nothin about your mare coladaí. I have a new trainer for my babies


Nor do I care about Anthony Mac stable

Or how he runs his pyramid scheme

Good night boys

Unfortunately Iím still in covid mode for three weeks now

"or how he runs his pyramid scheme" ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 14, 2021, 02:41:11 PM
White tiger

Anthony driving got swallowed up in stretch in race 6 today at the meadows

Horse had nothin just before three quarters

You gotta be an idiot to get scammed into this guy pyramid scheme

I wood rather own 25 50 33 or percent of horse than buy into shares

Where u have no say so in nothin

Itís not entrainment itís a FARCE


HOWS VIP INTERNET PARTNERS DOING LMFAO
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Calhoun on January 14, 2021, 04:20:02 PM
I wood rather own 25 50 33 or percent of horse than buy into shares
That's very 1980's of you.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 14, 2021, 07:38:50 PM
He won 1 out of 5 everything about AM is a joke. I would think many soon will realize this for what it is nothing more than a scam. With this Covid and all how are many of the investors even with 1% per month bills going to be able to keep paying. Sure as shit the government will claw back the Covid relief should we get back to normal.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Loaded_Syringe on January 14, 2021, 09:15:25 PM
104 pages and counting of complete and utter drivel about a guy who couldnít train a dead cat to lay still nor drive a hot spike into a cold snowbank  11.gn
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 14, 2021, 09:42:36 PM
And if you read 104 pages you must be Loaded ngc3
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 14, 2021, 10:17:22 PM
Which begs the question why is he driving horses anyone can drive in the US when he's suppose to be with and looking over babies. Getting the 3 year old horses back up and going when you have a shit track that frozen at these times. Horses go lame you would think he be the one looking over the investments???
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 14, 2021, 11:02:00 PM
Correct a real trainer would be overseeing the investments but then again AM can't even spell trainer and he also can't drive.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: horses first on January 14, 2021, 11:13:59 PM
What did AM new group with his last set of horses that included his shares of WT to entice people to buy unsold babies with a raceway horse. Sounds like he priced WT way more then he's worth.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Brown jug on January 15, 2021, 10:04:44 AM
valid points
 historically the two year olds come back horrible at 3
lets see if that trend continues
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: whiptherabbit on January 15, 2021, 10:35:19 AM
I happened to watch the Meadows yesterday, which I never do. Is he down there to drive the stables horses? Iím curious as Iíd say there at least ten drivers there (mildly) with a better set of mitts then he has. White Tiger generally has some kick off a helmet, he was swishing away at him as they passed from all sides of the track halfway down the lane, unbelievable.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 15, 2021, 10:58:45 AM
Rabbit the same here but yesterday I watched and as you say he looked lost out there. AM has no clue in training and driving and even if the trainers had the horses ready to go it would still be up to AM in how he would drive the race, if you can call that driving.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 15, 2021, 11:05:13 AM
Every track now a days has its own personal driving colony
Itís just goes with changing of the times no more new faces

Itís understood by many

Why not give horse to a driver stationed at meadows

Those boys will not let an outsider come try win a race on their turf

AM  sometimes needs to use his head for something more than a helmet carrier
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 15, 2021, 12:07:06 PM
Good point. Look at the T-Breds the trainer wants the best rider and the jocks agent wants his rider on the best horse. At the beginning of one of my 2 yr olds season I would drive 1-2 races to see what I had in race conditions. I would get them to leave and if I had to take back and take cover so be it then I would right line and let them take some air on the outside and see what I had left. After 1-2 races mixing it up then I turn them over to the best drivers and tell them to drive as they see fit the horse is trained up.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 15, 2021, 12:11:16 PM
Ronnie Burke

Erv Miller

Julie Miller

Jenn Bon Jovi

All great trainer but they get pros to drive their horses
They donít drive themselves

Itís about winning to them the best chance at winning

Not seeing their name listed as driver
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 15, 2021, 12:36:27 PM
You know one thing for sure Ploppers have been onto this scam except for the AM employees who come on here and defend the scam and people do read Plop so let's call a spade a spade AM is not helping the game he is only out for himself and fuck other horsemen and owners and shareholders.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: LUCPARK on January 15, 2021, 01:18:36 PM
Suckers born every minute


My buddy chris got hoodwinked on rose trotter

Jimmmy got taken purple got robbed

Sooner or later the pyramid will fall

It has to stakes payments coming up


And for the record

Ronnie and Weaver didnít invest nothin in the stable

They have their own training center in Florida for babies. 

Ronnie mite have pimped  a Mac into beard in a race in canada

For some bullshit non winners race


Ronnie donít need the stable or a Mac

Just a few facts
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: ferdinand the bull on January 15, 2021, 02:02:29 PM
Every track now a days has its own personal driving colony
Itís just goes with changing of the times no more new faces

Itís understood by many

Why not give horse to a driver stationed at meadows

Those boys will not let an outsider come try win a race on their turf

AM  sometimes needs to use his head for something more than a helmet carrier
How does he drive at the meadows anyway, he lives in Ontario,  the drivers in Pa are so bad its essential that he go drive
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 15, 2021, 02:02:42 PM
Right on Luc and we might as well take this a little further. All those hockey players are getting paid appearances because Doug Gilmore said he has no part of any horses. I asked a freind who knows them all because he works for the NHL and I said just ask them and see what they say, and that was it no ownership by any of them. Their just pimping for him and getting paid.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 15, 2021, 02:11:49 PM
Very easy answer. It does not matter if he is in Canada or not as the bills keep right on rolling. Travelling to The Meadows lets him pad more bills and also gives the impression that he cares about the horses but we all know all he cares about is AM. Amazing that White Tiger could not even beat $15 claimers. Still waiting for him or Swanhoun to explain Brave World and Stormont Wizard.

what about Brave World? they bought him and left him with the same trainer and he has devalued over time. probably the first time in the history of the sport a horse devalued over time. crazy isnít it? 🤡
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 15, 2021, 02:15:55 PM
Right on Luc and we might as well take this a little further. All those hockey players are getting paid appearances because Doug Gilmore said he has no part of any horses. I asked a freind who knows them all because he works for the NHL and I said just ask them and see what they say, and that was it no ownership by any of them. Their just pimping for him and getting paid.

you might me the most ill-informed person this forum has ever had. and thatís really saying something 🥴🤡
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 15, 2021, 02:28:13 PM
For a AM employee you should be able to prove me wrong but you won't and have no chance because you would rather spread BS about how good TheStable is. Your gig is up so go muck stalls.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Swandre on January 15, 2021, 02:36:54 PM
For a AM employee you should be able to prove me wrong but you won't and have no chance because you would rather spread BS about how good TheStable is. Your gig is up so go muck stalls.

HAHAHAHAHAHA
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 15, 2021, 03:00:40 PM
The HA HA HA HA's prove your full of shit and like I said get back to mucking stalls. I have never seen anyone who evaded more questions than you and that would be because just like the investors AM treats you all like mushrooms keeping you in the dark and feeding you shit.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Lance on January 15, 2021, 03:06:55 PM
For a AM employee you should be able to prove me wrong but you won't and have no chance because you would rather spread BS about how good TheStable is. Your gig is up so go muck stalls.

TheStable generated more revenue in one year then you did in your lifetime.
Title: Re: THE STABLE @ CA
Post by: Iceman on January 15, 2021, 03:17:51 PM
Lance is back off his