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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Locked in with pace on January 17, 2026, 06:21:54 AM
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Friday night had one of the worst cards ever. Low-class horses, I mean non-competitive horses at cheap fairs, ship in and win. They handle $2.8 and give out less than $150,000 in a 14-card program. The NEW Meadowlands has arrived
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how much of tbat handle does the track mame for purses?
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At least 90 percent of their handle comes from ADW's and other off track betting sites. Meadowlands charges between 4 and 5 percent for their signal, so on a 2.2 million dollar handle at 5 percent it comes to $110,000 which doesn't even cover purses. Some of that money also goes towards other expenses.
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Buggy racing is a losing proposition
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90 percent of the money comes from ADW wagering and that only 3-4 percent for the track
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Generally speaking, I think simulcast out is 50:50 purses:track owner after certain expenses.
The Meadowlands may be different, I don't know.
Track handle sends a much higher percentage to the purse account generally speaking as well.
I wish the Meadowlands well. They are trying really hard to get rid of cheaters.
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If racetracks got rid of ADW betting and charged 13 percent rake with a 5 percent rebate the game would have a chance, In ENGLAND AND AUSTRALIA they use bookmakers and if a fixed race lets say happens in NORTH AMERICA THE PUBLIC GETS killed and even people that hit the numbers will only get a fraction of the real payoffs, Now in England and AUSTRALIA if a race is corrupt the bookies get killed and they are the ones who pay the purses and when this happens they have a task force to check who is cashing and taking the money on payoffs that are not legit and people are caught left and right, 3 years ago New ZEALAND great James macdonald who may be one of the greatist ever to ride a horse bet big on a horse he was riding and riders can not place a wager in Australia and he was given a full one year holliday and had to serve the full time, its a perfect system that makes horse racing huge in Australia the big day at FLEMINGTON race track is a non working holliday that the whole country watches and in my opinion is the biggest race in the world and thats the MELBOURNE cup, Changes can only be made if you block the horsemen from meetings to improve racing and have people that understand gambling making the rules and that is why in ONTARIO the AGCO who runs the show with people that have never made a bet and for sure no city in north america is hurting worse than ontario when it comes to gambling and every gambler i know feels like its AL CAPONE thats running the show
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Generally speaking, I think simulcast out is 50:50 purses:track owner after certain expenses.
The Meadowlands may be different, I don't know.
Track handle sends a much higher percentage to the purse account generally speaking as well.
I wish the Meadowlands well. They are trying really hard to get rid of cheaters.
Why post something that is not even close to being right with no info, I like MR GURAL but hes not helping horse racing and has a GM that is lost
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He's not lost. He always finds his way back up Jeffie's ass. tmbz1
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AND WHERE DOES THIS MONEY GO?
New Jersey provides significant state funding for The Meadowlands Racetrack through subsidies, including a recent $1.6 million transfer from Freehold Raceway to boost race days, and substantial allocations for the New Jersey Sire Stakes (NJSS) and development funds, with major stakes purses growing to $18.6 million in 2026
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My future wife and I were at the Meadowlands opening night in 1976. It was a eye opening moment for fans like us. After spending most of our time chasing winners at Roosevelt and Monmticello, I thought this new track was amazing. Great for harness racing. Must have had 40,000 people there. Had to stand 30 deep in line to make a bet. It was a great looking facility. Now, with all the opinions I read about Gural and the state of racing nationally, i hope the Meadsowlnds does not go the way Freehold did.
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My future wife and I were at the Meadowlands opening night in 1976. It was a eye opening moment for fans like us. After spending most of our time chasing winners at Roosevelt and Monmticello, I thought this new track was amazing. Great for harness racing. Must have had 40,000 people there. Had to stand 30 deep in line to make a bet. It was a great looking facility. Now, with all the opinions I read about Gural and the state of racing nationally, i hope the Meadsowlnds does not go the way Freehold did.
I was there opening night as well Dougie and I still have the race program! It was mobbed!
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We heard this shit already, don't you two remember telling the same fucking story, shit even MIA Sakit chimed in and was there, I can find the thread... ngc3
There were tears ngc3
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At least it was about racing and not just childish name calling over and over.
"We heard this shit already." Pot calling the kettle black.
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At least it was about racing and not just childish name calling over and over.
"We heard this shit already." Pot calling the kettle black.
OMG how many millions of times are you going to say that.
I'll say what I want you jealous old dweeb, small human who laughed when their friends (JT for one) were getting fucked with....that's why you're friendless here now. ngc3
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JEALOUS? Of you? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Why would ANYONE be jealous of you? 73cv.2
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JEALOUS? Of you? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Why would ANYONE be jealous of you? 73cv.2
Pacer 2 level emoji use there, yup, your jealous and nuts too ngc3
I got 6 dudes that make me their life here.
I make sure during my real life here to not neglect, and abuse YOU & them proportionally. ngc3
I hope you appreciate it, you do don't you...bitch? ;D
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I was there opening night as well Dougie and I still have the race program! It was mobbed!
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Wiz, I remember that they ran out of programs. I don't know what year Gural took over, but I've never seen a guy more hated/loved by so many fans. Gural and his wife stayed at a bungalow colony that my family also stayed at. I never really knew him but I think he and his family had rreal estate in NYC. Years later I was surprised when I read he bought the Meadowlands. I'm sure the days of big crowds are long gone. Except on Hambo day. I think they had 17,000 that day.
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I watched it across the street at midnight and could not believe what i was watching with huge flow and no holes given up but that must of been a dream because i have not seen one of those races in years, even a race like the one at the meadows with Dragons lair with no holes and hard racing or SONSAM MAKING THAT HUGEmove with a hard flow and even at greenwood guys like REG GASSIEN a fan favourite or ROBERT LACKEY who closed holes or William MEGANS AND today its JAMES and roy and garbage racing, Around 5 years ago or more they had JODY and DOUG MCNAIR in their silks waiting to greet the public and Jody is liked by the fans but i did not see one person ask for an autograph and that was never a thing again
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Friday night had one of the worst cards ever. Low-class horses, I mean non-competitive horses at cheap fairs, ship in and win. They handle $2.8 and give out less than $150,000 in a 14-card program. The NEW Meadowlands has arrived
Only about 5% of handle is profit so that makes sense. Maybe you should buy yourself spellcheck misspelling the word their is EMBARRASSING! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I was there opening night as well Dougie and I still have the race program! It was mobbed!
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Wiz, I remember that they ran out of programs. I don't know what year Gural took over, but I've never seen a guy more hated/loved by so many fans. Gural and his wife stayed at a bungalow colony that my family also stayed at. I never really knew him but I think he and his family had rreal estate in NYC. Years later I was surprised when I read he bought the Meadowlands. I'm sure the days of big crowds are long gone. Except on Hambo day. I think they had 17,000 that day.
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Jeff Gural, a New York real estate developer and horse breeder, took over the operation of the Meadowlands Racetrack in December 2011 through a long-term lease agreement with the state of New Jersey.
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There will never be a harness track that can hold a candle to the big m..
Mr gural is a hero for saving and keeping the big m going but has made one significant blunder recently by allowing englem to race instead of serving his time just like any small player has to do. Seems as if his promise to not allow him to race unless he was able to have his sentence waived, reduced or served was not honored. They are filling the box for 3 cards a week now without being held hostage by a huge barn operation. He’s either guilty or he’s not and all that I hear is that the finding has not changed and all appeal processes have expired.
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You finally caught the spelling. I even put it in lower case to stand out. Only someone as sharp and smart as you spotted it. Does it really MATTOR.
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There will never be a harness track that can hold a candle to the big m..
Mr gural is a hero for saving and keeping the big m going but has made one significant blunder recently by allowing englem to race instead of serving his time just like any small player has to do. Seems as if his promise to not allow him to race unless he was able to have his sentence waived, reduced or served was not honored. They are filling the box for 3 cards a week now without being held hostage by a huge barn operation. He’s either guilty or he’s not and all that I hear is that the finding has not changed and all appeal processes have expired.
this type of innacurate mind culture is absurd
the state of NJ funds the purses and Gural only kicks in a portion of the sportsbook profits he stumbled in to
he wants a casino and its been 15 years he has been crying poor mouse --the only reason he took over was the prospect that Trenton would suddenly change and allow casinos outside of Atlantic City
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You are so correct. It's all about the money >His.