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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Locked in with pace on November 26, 2025, 08:21:11 AM
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How do these deals work when a meet ends and a trainer does not ship to other tracks? Does the trainer absorb all the bills till the next meeting starts? I would assume the owner and trainer must share incurred costs.
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That's a great question
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How do these deals work when a meet ends and a trainer does not ship to other tracks? Does the trainer absorb all the bills till the next meeting starts? I would assume the owner and trainer must share incurred costs.
no they either get turned ore they get sold depending on talent of the horses..i only race 2 and three yr olds but that usually the moto
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tmbz1
no they either get turned ore they get sold depending on talent of the horses..i only race 2 and three yr olds but that usually the moto
tmbz1
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send them back to owner if you dont want to race
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In our experience, our partnership pays reduced training and boarding bills for 2-3 months until our pacers start training for the next season.
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So, for the people who take most of the horses on deals and the tracks shut down for a few months, they must take a big hit financially.
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Most that take horses on deals are always broke and are not good trainers. They just scrambling to get horses in barn and hoping to get lucky. No competent trainers are going to train your horse for free
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Most that take horses on deals are always broke and are not good trainers. They just scrambling to get horses in barn and hoping to get lucky. No competent trainers are going to train your horse for free
Deals are not free
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Some deals have shared costs, others don't. Ask actual trainers and owners who do deals, and you'll get their answer. There is no one size fits all deal. I know plenty of excellent trainers, and incompetent, gypsy trainers who have done deals. Several have have asked me for advice. Here's the obvious, but interesting part. The trainer and the owner each takes the deal.....because each thinks it's a good deal FOR THEM. Like many times in business, someone is going to be right, and someone is going to be wrong. LOL.
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I think the owners do far better. Many of the "only deal owners are still around," and many of the trainers they used are long gone.
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I think the owners do far better. Many of the "only deal owners are still around," and many of the trainers they used are long gone.
Agreed tmbz1
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When Cordero was training tbreds, he used to say that the owners would stop paying and just tell him to keep the horse.
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I pay turnout farm and reduced fee bringing back. If the trainer has turn out farm i give 400 or so to feed them. I think thats fair.
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I pay turnout farm and reduced fee bringing back. If the trainer has turn out farm i give 400 or so to feed them. I think thats fair.
$400. How generous of you. Pay 1/2 what it would cost at a turnout farm and the trainer gets to pay the mortgage and taxes on the property
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$400. How generous of you. Pay 1/2 what it would cost at a turnout farm and the trainer gets to pay the mortgage and taxes on the property
I help them pay their mortgage when they race our horses during the year. It's called earning a living. Or do you think they make zero money all year? This time of the year we just break even both us and them, they are not losing or making. You have no idea how well I treat the people who train for me so your comment is worthless. So yes this is fair.
This is all said by the guy who likes the idea of starving people by cutting food stamps and health care subsidies. So please don't lecture me on generosity.
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I help them pay their mortgage when they race our horses during the year. It's called earning a living. Or do you think they make zero money all year? This time of the year we just break even both us and them, they are not losing or making. You have no idea how well I treat the people who train for me so your comment is worthless. So yes this is fair.
This is all said by the guy who likes the idea of starving people by cutting food stamps and health care subsidies. So please don't lecture me on generosity.
Interesting ending. I’m 55 never had a food stamp in my life and haven’t starved yet. Oh and I grew up with a single mom of 2. She worked a lot but never begged the government for money
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Interesting ending. I’m 55 never had a food stamp in my life and haven’t starved yet. Oh and I grew up with a single mom of 2. She worked a lot but never begged the government for money
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Aren’t you special. Too bad most people on food stamps are children, elderly and disabled and those of working age the majority work. I suppose you prefer they starve if they can’t afford to eat. Try again and maybe tomorrow go visit a food pantry and see who walks in.
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Got a food pantry just around the corner. Sad reality is most of the middle age people I see with children can afford that vape in their hands
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Some trainers will take cheaper horses on deals. Most won't. Are there any "deal trainers " that you know of who can make a decent living?
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I don't think there's an absolute, but most trainers I've spoke with who take deals, do so to get horses in the barn and because it's easier to do so when owners don't want to pay the bill(s). I am sure most of them think they will make out better, but then again, generally, horse trainers aren't great businessmen-----especially the majority that take deals, LOL. I think it's foolish for the trainer to take a horse on a deal unless the purses are high enough to make it worthwhile. At the lower end of any track, it just won't work for the trainer. I've seen many go broke.