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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: The Answer on November 01, 2025, 03:11:03 PM
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https://www.drf.com/news/harness-louprint-retired-stand-stud-ohio-next-year
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I think Burke said his best horse ever!
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I think Burke said his best horse ever!
I don't put a lot of stock in that. Seems like it gets thrown around by the big trainers a lot. Takter also comes to mind.
Not saying he's not a great horse.
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I think Burke said his best horse ever!
How could he possibly say that when he had Foiled Again. It is probable that we will never see a more gutsy, durable and talented horse.
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This is no surprise after the last story. Another horse won from your stable. Lose with dignity.
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This story doesn't smell right. These guys love to race their horses,and now he's standing in Ohio. There's more to his retirement then meets the eye.
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This story doesn't smell right. These guys love to race their horses,and now he's standing in Ohio. There's more to his retirement then meets the eye.
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This story doesn't smell right. These guys love to race their horses,and now he's standing in Ohio. There's more to his retirement then meets the eye.
10 million to stand in ohio,,,
fact...
sometimes tryin to be an ivestigator is a hard job ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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When you're 4"5' it's easier to get your nose up someone's ass
Good investigation
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This story doesn't smell right. These guys love to race their horses,and now he's standing in Ohio. There's more to his retirement then meets the eye.
Burke must have been overruled. In any case, this is just another nail in the coffin of harness racing. You need stars to pull in fans. Harness racing desperately need to have the handouts to end.
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Whether he came back at 4 or not didn't matter because pulling in new fans for harness racing is virtually impossible. The majority of fans were older people, and many have passed away, and no one has replaced them. Even with T-Breds, other than Keeneland, Saratoga, Delmar's summer meet, the Triple Crown, and Breeders Cup, racetrack grandstands are basically empty.
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Very few top 3 year olds have ever come back at 4 in both breeds. Likely Louprint had more starts than the top 5 Kentucky Derby finishers combined. Bettors don’t care, if a top 3 year old comes back as a top older horse those races are unbettable. Breeders don’t care. If a top horse retires the owner is going to buy more. Only ones that might care are casual fans and let’s be real they add very little to the industry.
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how many new pacing sires can the market handle
confederate, cannibal, legendary hanover, sippinonsearoc,louprint to name a few
clearly others will fall by the wayside because
interested that it is ohio again
the ohio program is pretty good and i guess it is on solid footing
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Whether he came back at 4 or not didn't matter because pulling in new fans for harness racing is virtually impossible. The majority of fans were older people, and many have passed away, and no one has replaced them. Even with T-Breds, other than Keeneland, Saratoga, Delmar's summer meet, the Triple Crown, and Breeders Cup, racetrack grandstands are basically empty.
Exactly. They could clone bret Hanover and niatross and it wouldn't do a thing.
There are no fans of harness racing. Youre either a horsemen a breeder an owner or a gambler. Only way out of this is to exterminate CAWs and reduce the price to gamble to something competitive with other gambling games in the space
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Exactly. They could clone bret Hanover and niatross and it wouldn't do a thing.
There are no fans of harness racing. Youre either a horsemen a breeder an owner or a gambler. Only way out of this is to exterminate CAWs and reduce the price to gamble to something competitive with other gambling games in the space
You will never eliminate CAW. Especially now that AI is available to virtually anyone. It would help if the state legislatures would lower take out rates. But you will never convert slots players to handicapping. Slots require no effort and those players don’t want to work to get results
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You will never eliminate CAW. Especially now that AI is available to virtually anyone. It would help if the state legislatures would lower take out rates. But you will never convert slots players to handicapping. Slots require no effort and those players don’t want to work to get results
If the defendants dont settle and eliminate the CAWs themselves, their fate will lie in the hands of a jury. While nobody knows for sure what a jury will decide, to say they will never rule against them is far fetched.
Gamblers who exclusively play slots are not the ones who would come back to racing it if racing was competitively priced. There are many active gamblers in the market that do not gamble on slots
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If the defendants dont settle and eliminate the CAWs themselves, their fate will lie in the hands of a jury. While nobody knows for sure what a jury will decide, to say they will never rule against them is far fetched.
Gamblers who exclusively play slots are not the ones who would come back to racing it if racing was competitively priced. There are many active gamblers in the market that do not gamble on slots
If it goes to trial and a jury happens to rule against CAW. They will go back to the old way of having several employees making the bets for them. 20 years ago a guy from Florida had 50+ people working for him that made the actual wagers. They would get a list every morning that played out how much to wager on each horse depending on odds at 1 minute
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Guessing there will be a lot of dual eligibles
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Posturing after the race and propaganda for a stallion. Plain and simple. The job now is selling shares. They're lucky they don't have/want to sell all of them, LOL.