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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: hammer0419 on October 25, 2025, 07:31:31 PM
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Anyone know why?
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Anyone know why?
Scratched: VET - LAME
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She was scratched because she was very off due to a hot nail after she had a shoe re set yesterday.
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She was scratched because she was very off due to a hot nail after she had a shoe re set yesterday.
Meaning it could of happened earlier like before the 1st race closed, was the timing of the scratch legit?
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Front right foot
Interview with trainer on fox sports channel telecast
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Meaning it could of happened earlier like before the 1st race closed, was the timing of the scratch legit?
No. The fix was in! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Fucking the betting public over and over and over again.
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No. The fix was in! ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
He (Tim Hortons) knew the specifics beyond the one word reason (Lame) the track gave for the scratch, thought he knew the timing as well.
Long vacation from this after the t-bred BC next Fri and Sat, then Hong Kong next year.
96z.p you NA racing!
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AMEN
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who puts new shoes on the day before the race?
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Fucking the betting public over and over and over again.
How did anyone fuck the betting public?? Please enlighten us. Who fucked who? ngc3
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who puts new shoes on the day before the race?
Thoroughbreds often get shod the day of the race its considered a legal prerace. Dont know why harness would be different...
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who puts new shoes on the day before the race?
It's OK if you are just replacing or changing shoes but trimming the day before is plain stupid. It usually takes at least 72 hours for the minor discomfort from the trim to subside. Compare it to when you cut your fingernail a little too short.
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who puts new shoes on the day before the race?
Me .. without hesitation if there any legitimate reason for doing so.
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Shoe reset is a lot different from getting shod. Sounds like she pulled a shoe.
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Fucking the betting public over and over and over again.
How x plane
Wood u wAnt her raced at 1/9 and find after race horse was not right and trainer knew it
Stop. Jerkoff
U didn’t bet a 1/9
Boo boo hoo hoo
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If the horse was as lame as they say, just a total fuck job to all gamblers. Disgraceful
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How are the gamblers getting screwed by him scratching a lame horse, it's actually the opposite.
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How are the gamblers getting screwed by him scratching a lame horse, it's actually the opposite.
That she scratched after the p5 started is most the gripe.
Getting saddled with Sylvia.
I'm cold as ice, my time has way passed since Meshuggah ngc3
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How are the gamblers getting screwed by him scratching a lame horse, it's actually the opposite.
Because nobody would have ever singled Sylvia Hanover. The horse you were forced to substitute.
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I didn't realize the Pick 5 had already started, I thought the scratch was announced way before the 1st race went off.
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I didn't realize the Pick 5 had already started, I thought the scratch was announced way before the 1st race went off.
If the horse got hurt in her warmup after race 1, fine. No problem. That's the rules.
However. That was not the case here. They knew the horse was lame yesterday and waited until warmup #2 to scratch, after the pick 5 started. Then obnoxious behavior on Twitter followed from the track employees who simply cant help themselves with their blatant disgust for gamblers.
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I didn't realize the Pick 5 had already started, I thought the scratch was announced way before the 1st race went off.
Was a fucking nightmare, TBJF out, Sylvia's been rotten on ice, I thought she'd be good, wrong, but to get post time favorite, Naughty destroyed them, again. Was like watching yourself die in slow motion ngc3
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Fucking the betting public over and over and over again.
Tell me how? The owner is the one who lost out.
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If the horse got hurt in her warmup after race 1, fine. No problem. That's the rules.
However. That was not the case here. They knew the horse was lame yesterday and waited until warmup #2 to scratch, after the pick 5 started. Then obnoxious behavior on Twitter followed from the track employees who simply cant help themselves with their blatant disgust for gamblers.
tmbz1
There you fucking go, these greedy pricks better save their money because when they're cleaning toilets telling stories of robbing in the good ole' days...
I'll be doing Hong Kong! ;D
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They only race twice a week, is that enough action for you?
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They only race twice a week, is that enough action for you?
8 times a month I think.
I'm not an action guy, I like MSW, stakes, but none of this shit works.
I'd rather study a race for 2-3 hours, take 2-3 days to study a card.
Are you kidding me, I can't do this. I tried 1 race a day, 20 races a day.
Drugs, cheating...I'm not an action guy, I like challenges, this is not a challenge here, it's corruption and I have the solution.
I'll bet Hambo day, million dollar stakes nights, Triple Crown Races, Breeders Cup, Dubai, KSA, Europe....but 95% interest in Hong Kong, might dabble in Japan.
After next week's T-bred BC I'm done for the year, I'm betting nada other than my 1 pb and mega mil qp per draw ngc3, just familiarize myself with Hong Kong racing - student only
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This thread reveals the LOSERS on this forum.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1aaY8LvFQ5/
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This thread reveals the LOSERS on this forum.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1aaY8LvFQ5/
Zero regard for the gamblers. Just get shit on over and over. Pushing the envelope with a lame horse and destroying wagers is great for everyone!!
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Just gave me one more reason why NOT to ever play this track again! Shit stain corrupt dump. Horse was not scratched at start of race 2. Was still taking money! Was finally scractched after race 2 ran I believe. That my friends is fucked up. They knew the horse was lame FRIDAY!
People need to stop playing this track PERMANENTLY
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This thread reveals the LOSERS on this forum.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1aaY8LvFQ5/
A very very difficult interview for Ryder. My hats off to him. A real horseman through and through.
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Why in the hell want to scratch early, i'm sure he was sick about it. I know Chris well enough, he was thinking about the horse, and the purse he had to leave on the table. Not the pick 5
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Why in the hell want to scratch early, i'm sure he was sick about it. I know Chris well enough, he was thinking about the horse, and the purse he had to leave on the table. Not the pick 5
The gamblers dont care about how big the purse is and they shouldn't. That race isn't a major stakes race and the horse is scratched before the pick 5 starts. Someone's job has to be to protect the gamblers. Not saying that job is riders, it isn't. But someone somewhere there has to consider that this is a public gambling game
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This thread reveals the LOSERS on this forum.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1aaY8LvFQ5/
Did you really do 9 successful Blumpkins at the ManHole toilet yesterday Kenny?
Business slow, yet you just keep moving everything along there, WOW!
Be as angry as you want today, I get it!
YOU the MAN...WHORE! ;D
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The gamblers dont care about how big the purse is and they shouldn't. That race isn't a major stakes race and the horse is scratched before the pick 5 starts. Someone's job has to be to protect the gamblers. Not saying that job is riders, it isn't. But someone somewhere there has to consider that this is a public gambling game
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That Gambler Help Line, rings in another galaxy, and they're in a meeting too, forever! ngc3
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That Gambler Help Line, rings in another galaxy, and they're in a meeting too, forever! ngc3
Even worse than not protecting us, they outwardly hate us. Pretty easy to say the situation sucked. We realize that and provide an explanantion. Some sort of acknowledgement. Instead, they paint us as animal haters who want lame horses on the track. Unbelievable.
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Someone's job has to be to protect the gamblers.
Get over yourself. A basic premise of any contest is, if someone loses, someone wins. Why is it we only hear from the losers?
Ryder and company lost $274,000.00 Cdn. You can assume that the scratch decision and timing was painful. But whine free.
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Stupid thread. I bet the pic5 . Had my numbers ready to put in and 'THEN' realized the horse was scratched.
It was announced a reasonable time BEFORE the 1st race. Like LUC said. Quit whining because they took your single away.
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Stupid thread. I bet the pic5 . Had my numbers ready to put in and 'THEN' realized the horse was scratched.
It was announced a reasonable time BEFORE the 1st race. Like LUC said. Quit whining because they took your single away.
A popular opinion. That is wrong.
The whining is not because the single went away.
I bet the p5 with the countdown clocl on the screem. 0 mtp on the screen .That is reasonable to you?
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Get over yourself. A basic premise of any contest is, if someone loses, someone wins. Why is it we only hear from the losers?
Ryder and company lost $274,000.00 Cdn. You can assume that the scratch decision and timing was painful. But whine free.
Your basic premise is why the entire industry is a non debatable failure. No consideratiom for what's fair for the customer. Just deal with it!
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Explain what is UNFAIR. The horse was scratched WELL ahead of the start of the sequence.
The only reason it was mentioned is that it was such a high profile horse and race.
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they were still taking wagers with no time left to post of the first .they took pic 5 wagers right up to post time.
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Explain what is UNFAIR. The horse was scratched WELL ahead of the start of the sequence.
The only reason it was mentioned is that it was such a high profile horse and race.
How mucj more clear can I be? I placed wagers using TBJF with the countdown clock ticking. Less than 3 mtp. Around a minute left when I finished sending in bets.
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they were still taking wagers with no time left to post of the first .they took pic 5 wagers right up to post time.
this is 100% fact
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Two separate and distinct issues. Chris is an excellent horseman. He's a professional. He was thinking about the horse and only the horse. Period. Whatever the track (management) tried to do, did, whenever they did it, that is on them. If you got impacted because of the scratch, that's who you are mad at, the track (management).
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Otten Rallis and Prewitt as usual obnoxiously responding to gamblers on Twitter. Telling them the track is at no fault for this whatsoever.
They just despise gamblers. The hate breeds from every aspect of the industry
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some of you are insane here....too bad things happen like that
apparently this issue wasnt discovered to late in the day. This is one of the greatest female pacers of all time. She is special in a world of her own on that track. Kudos to Chris Ryder who had the horses best interests at heart. You morons would rather see a breakdown or a lame horse because you got fucked and stuck with that rat Sylvia.
there was no fix..shit happens, the horse comes first
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some of you are insane here....too bad things happen like that
apparently this issue wasnt discovered to late in the day. This is one of the greatest female pacers of all time. She is special in a world of her own on that track. Kudos to Chris Ryder who had the horses best interests at heart. You morons would rather see a breakdown or a lame horse because you got fucked and stuck with that rat Sylvia.
there was no fix..shit happens, the horse comes first
It was discovered before race 1. That's all that matters. Let's not get confused here. Nobody wants the horse raced lame. All anyone wants is the horse scratched as appropriate before race 1. Instead of pushing the envelope with a lame horse and waiting to scratch after the pick 5 started. Is this really not clear to you?
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no one on planet earth is scratching a 1-9 shot in a breeders crown final until they’re certain the horse can’t go.
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no one on planet earth is scratching a 1-9 shot in a breeders crown final until they’re certain the horse can’t go.
entry fee of $5000.00 USD gone of course - yes that's a smaller issue
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It was discovered before race 1. That's all that matters. Let's not get confused here. Nobody wants the horse raced lame. All anyone wants is the horse scratched as appropriate before race 1. Instead of pushing the envelope with a lame horse and waiting to scratch after the pick 5 started. Is this really not clear to you?
This is not correct:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1aaY8LvFQ5/
They did not know she was not able to race until later.
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This is not correct:
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1aaY8LvFQ5/
They did not know she was not able to race until later.
"I warmed her up and she was off up front"
This was prior to race 1. You can ask anyone there if you dont believe me
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Your basic premise is why the entire industry is a non debatable failure. No consideratiom for what's fair for the customer. Just deal with it!
I can feel your valid frustration-the scratch should have been announced immediately
who came up with "you get the favorite if there is a scratch?"--i am aware this would be unpopular-but they could make it an "all" race
as far as "just deal with it"--that seems to be the way horizontal wagering is structured everywhere-so if this happens-the bettors should be prepared to "just deal with it"--it comes with the hazards of playing horizontals
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I know you want to blame the track for screwing the bettors, but in my opinion Ryder is to blame for the late scratch.
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I can feel your valid frustration-the scratch should have been announced immediately
who came up with "you get the favorite if there is a scratch?"--i am aware this would be unpopular-but they could make it an "all" race
as far as "just deal with it"--that seems to be the way horizontal wagering is structured everywhere-so if this happens-the bettors should be prepared to "just deal with it"--it comes with the hazards of playing horizontals
I am 100% on board with the horizontal hazards. Had this particular horse gotten hurt out of nowhere after race 1, so be it. I know the rules and I accept the consequences.
However, This case is very different. They had a known lame horse on their hands before race 1 of a pick 5 and waited until after race 1 to announce the scratch. They sided on pushing the envelope with racing a lame horse rather than protecting the customers (and the safety of the horse and others) by forcing a decision before the p5 started. If they are unable to manage this situation fairly and properly, they shouldn't be able to offer horizontal wagers to the general public
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Chris Ryder bears a striking resemblance to Herbert the Pervert from Family Guy.
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How do you know Ryder didn't make the decision until after the 1st race to scratch her. The track vet should have told Ryder well before the 1st race to make a final decision or they're going to make it for him and scratch the horse.
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"I warmed her up and she was off up front"
This was prior to race 1. You can ask anyone there if you dont believe me
And if you actually watched the interview, he took her out a second time and there was talk of taking her out a third time. By the way, I was there.
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Chris Ryder bears a striking resemblance to Herbert the Pervert from Family Guy.
Thank you for upholding the reputation of Horseplop.
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I know you want to blame the track for screwing the bettors, but in my opinion Ryder is to blame for the late scratch.
The track had zero to do with this. The track would want her racing. It was the Breeders Crown, I am sure he wanted to race here. I have seen scratches in stakes races closer to post time than this.
Can you imagine what people would have said if she raced and broke down?
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Thank you for upholding the reputation of Horseplop.
There is a line forming at the Man Hole Toilet Kenny, get to work, our little cum gobbler elf! ;D
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And if you actually watched the interview, he took her out a second time and there was talk of taking her out a third time. By the way, I was there.
I watched the interview.
Why are you creating a false narrative? What i said was correct. They knew of the problem before race 1.
We gamblers are asking for something that is completely fair. Make the decision before race 1. Not immediately following race 1. If that is unreasonable or cant be accommodated, then horizontals need to be eliminated. The horse was clearly off before race 1. Pushing the envelope with the horse is dangerous to the horses and drivers and completely unfair to the gamblers.
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Anyone know why?
Bruised foot 🤷🏼♀️
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There is a line forming at the Man Hole Toilet Kenny, get to work, our little cum gobbler elf! ;D
You reveal how much of a loser you are every day. You have a great life; a gambling addition, your Horseplop "family", and detailed knowledge of Burke's cock.
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I watched the interview.
Why are you creating a false narrative? What i said was correct. They knew of the problem before race 1.
We gamblers are asking for something that is completely fair. Make the decision before race 1. Not immediately following race 1. If that is unreasonable or cant be accommodated, then horizontals need to be eliminated. The horse was clearly off before race 1. Pushing the envelope with the horse is dangerous to the horses and drivers and completely unfair to the gamblers.
They did not know they were going to scratch her them. Do you want me to reimburse you for your $2 mind bet?
Horsemen are doing what is best for the horse. If they race her and she breaks down, everybody would have been screaming the opposite. You are so stupid that you do not even know customers are irrelevant.
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They did not know they were going to scratch her them. Do you want me to reimburse you for your $2 mind bet?
Horsemen are doing what is best for the horse. If they race her and she breaks down, everybody would have been screaming the opposite. You are so stupid that you do not even know customers are irrelevant.
Here we go with the $2 nonsense. You no doubt hate gamblers. I knew that earlier about you.
Stupid? You have absolutely no clue even what our beef is. We did not want the horse raced. Is that clear enough? We did not want the horse raced. Again. We did not want this horse raced. We did not want this horse anywhere near racing.
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Here we go with the $2 nonsense. You no doubt hate gamblers. I knew that earlier about you.
Stupid? You have absolutely no clue even what our beef is. We did not want the horse raced. Is that clear enough? We did not want the horse raced. Again. We did not want this horse raced. We did not want this horse anywhere near racing.
You're debating / arguing with a cock sucking slob aids virus.
He's 50 shades of retardo.
I think you deserve better. ngc3
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I watched the interview.
Why are you creating a false narrative? What i said was correct. They knew of the problem before race 1.
We gamblers are asking for something that is completely fair. Make the decision before race 1. Not immediately following race 1. If that is unreasonable or cant be accommodated, then horizontals need to be eliminated. The horse was clearly off before race 1. Pushing the envelope with the horse is dangerous to the horses and drivers and completely unfair to the gamblers.
Or you could not bet them?
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Or you could not bet them?
Perfect industry response. Sounds just like NYRA when they tell you to not bet into their win pools.
Forget about providing fair and square. Nothing to see here, problem solved !
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Ok ...here we have a situation w Sovereignty spiking a fever well in advance of Saturdays BC. Do you think they will wait til 20 mtp to see if it subsides?
Pocket Rocket is 100% correct.
If Ryder and crew had pure intentions they wouldn't have risked her at all bv they KNOWINGLY knew of the issue the day prior but still waited tol the last moment to make a call. For a horse thats made 3m wouldn't one that truly didn't want to harm her make the call early? Either that morning or at least before the races. Seems greedy to me to wait til last second to scr.
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Ok ...here we have a situation w Sovereignty spiking a fever well in advance of Saturdays BC. Do you think they will wait til 20 mtp to see if it subsides?
Pocket Rocket is 100% correct.
If Ryder and crew had pure intentions they wouldn't have risked her at all bv they KNOWINGLY knew of the issue the day prior but still waited tol the last moment to make a call. For a horse thats made 3m wouldn't one that truly didn't want to harm her make the call early? Either that morning or at least before the races. Seems greedy to me to wait til last second to scr.
“He had a slightly elevated temperature and that remained through the night,” Mott said to a group of media assembled on the Del Mar backstretch during training hours Tuesday morning. “This morning at 5 a.m. and when we got here at 5:30 a.m., he still had a slight fever… Since 6 a.m., we gave him some medication to help with the fever, to help alleviate the fever. His temperature is down to normal right now. He's eating everything, he looks fine.”
"The GI Kentucky Derby, GI Belmont Stakes and GI Travers S. winner breezed four furlongs in :49.80 (5/5) at Del Mar Monday. He walked the shedrow this morning."
“If we don't feel like he's 100 percent, he's not gonna run,” Mott said. “If his temperature becomes elevated again, it's over. If he respikes any sort of fever, I think we're committed to saying that we're just gonna bypass everything.”
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He 'WAS' scratched at least 20 minute prior to the 1st race [start of the pick5]. I know because I just got home and was
looking to get my bets in and discovered then that he was scratched. What is different and UNFAIR about that vs. any
COMMON horse being handled the same?
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So bettors are actually upset, and blame, Chris Ryder here. Interesting.
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Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit...Was a "Late Scratch", after Race 1.
The pre-race show, clock on at 627pm. Race 3 - No Changes. (Bottom of the screen)
That's 51m18s on the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKeFwMsv46I&list=PL2cz0Se36kjgX4VIctzof3SJNCw_AyZIy&index=2
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He 'WAS' scratched at least 20 minute prior to the 1st race [start of the pick5]. I know because I just got home and was
looking to get my bets in and discovered then that he was scratched. What is different and UNFAIR about that vs. any
COMMON horse being handled the same?
Complete fake news. The horse was warming up on the track after race 1. You are either making shit up for God knows what reason thay you hate the gamblers. I wouldn't put it past WMP to flat out lie like this. Or. You are confusing this with Call me Goo who was in fact scratched well before race 1. Either way, it's not surprising.
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“He had a slightly elevated temperature and that remained through the night,” Mott said to a group of media assembled on the Del Mar backstretch during training hours Tuesday morning. “This morning at 5 a.m. and when we got here at 5:30 a.m., he still had a slight fever… Since 6 a.m., we gave him some medication to help with the fever, to help alleviate the fever. His temperature is down to normal right now. He's eating everything, he looks fine.”
"The GI Kentucky Derby, GI Belmont Stakes and GI Travers S. winner breezed four furlongs in :49.80 (5/5) at Del Mar Monday. He walked the shedrow this morning."
“If we don't feel like he's 100 percent, he's not gonna run,” Mott said. “If his temperature becomes elevated again, it's over. If he respikes any sort of fever, I think we're committed to saying that we're just gonna bypass everything.”
Sounds to me like a group that isn't going to try and squeeze the orange to its last drop.
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Went to race one to bet pic5 . Started punching and when I got to his race leg , the number
was dark [unusable]. Then looked to confirm in the 'SCRATCHES' where TWJ was indeed listed
as scratched. Any way you put it or believe, Chris was in no way trying to deceive anyone, just
looking out for his horses's well-being. Any confusion or blame go to the track. Don't think Chris
was thinking 'Oh I'll hold out and wait to screw those pic 5 bettors.'
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Went to race one to bet pic5 . Started punching and when I got to his race leg , the number
was dark [unusable]. Then looked to confirm in the 'SCRATCHES' where TWJ was indeed listed
as scratched. Any way you put it or believe, Chris was in no way trying to deceive anyone, just
looking out for his horses's well-being. Any confusion or blame go to the track. Don't think Chris
was thinking 'Oh I'll hold out and wait to screw those pic 5 bettors.'
When was the last time you saw a horse that was scratched out there on the track warming up after the scratched announced removed from betting? Are you 100% sure that you are confused with call me goo? I mean really 100%
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Maybe the ramification to the bettors wasn't on the forefront of Ryder's thoughts, but the situation TBJF was not changing, no mirace was going to be forthcoming...but someone there saw this bullshit and said we'll wait to the last minute for you and us to announce, KNOWING it was going to be announced.
Inside Information, they used to undermine TBJF backers in race 1 & 2 multi-legs.
Canadian cocksucking cunts, track vet, AGCO the whole colony and track management should be sent to North Korea as meat!
What the fuck was Sylvia Hanover doing on the track is another question.
Word was out!!!!!
Shwan F. Steacy he's a fucking pig, and not a prized one at that, half mongoloid retard...
https://standardbredcanada.ca/sites/default/files/styles/headline_image_1024_x_577/public/2023-02/2022-OBriens-Winners-Shawn-Steacy-1024px.jpg?itok=xP6z1d97
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Went to race one to bet pic5 . Started punching and when I got to his race leg , the number
was dark [unusable]. Then looked to confirm in the 'SCRATCHES' where TWJ was indeed listed
as scratched. Any way you put it or believe, Chris was in no way trying to deceive anyone, just
looking out for his horses's well-being. Any confusion or blame go to the track. Don't think Chris
was thinking 'Oh I'll hold out and wait to screw those pic 5 bettors.'
You're a fucking liar.
You were sucking your shit off of your buddies Maxx Bucknell's dick you sour wrinkled cunt!
Stick to history and away from realty you grumpy old fuck, you're a mean scumbag and meddle in shit!
Bitter Truth Lying Asshole tmbz1
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Can't think of any possible reason why I would lie. I have Twinspires. As for meanness
and/or meddling, this is a 'CLASSIC' case of the pot calling the kettle black. Fuck off Asshole
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Can't think of any possible reason why I would lie. I have Twinspires. As for meanness
and/or meddling, this is a 'CLASSIC' case of the pot calling the kettle black. Fuck off Asshole
Twinspires, oh besides a liar, you are a BRONZE VIP LEVEL loser and sucker too! ngc3
More like Tin LEVEL ngc3
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Can't think of any possible reason why I would lie. I have Twinspires. As for meanness
and/or meddling, this is a 'CLASSIC' case of the pot calling the kettle black. Fuck off Asshole
Here is a fact that I just verified. After race 1 went official, I checked the double will pays and then proceeded to make 3 different pick 3 bets all using TBJF as a single. On the 4th bet i tried to place, she was scratched. I went back and cancelled my 3 pick 3 bets using her as she was scratched. I know you are either lying or very very confused
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I was at Mohawk. There was NO mention if the scratch til AFTER race 1.
I bet my Pick 5s on the self serve machines, keyed TBJF on all my tickets.