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Title: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 05, 2025, 02:58:33 PM
Which of course is legal and he said all the fillies are on it

He said this is the 6th or 7th positive on this in Ohio.  To me this is a bunch of bullshit and who cares, they all should  be on it if needed.


He is quite right IMO

Now as far as trainers doping horses to increase perfromance, those people need to be nailed to the wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx-9ODoYgyk&t=1275s

Abt 10 minutes into the video
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: Pacer 2 on October 05, 2025, 03:27:03 PM
Which of course is legal and he said all the fillies are on it

He said this is the 6th or 7th positive on this in Ohio.  To me this is a bunch of bullshit and who cares, they all should  be on it if needed.


He is quite right IMO

Now as far as trainers doping horses to increase perfromance, those people need to be nailed to the wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx-9ODoYgyk&t=1275s

Abt 10 minutes into the video


   What does Petrelli think about this??
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: Kole Hanover on October 05, 2025, 04:06:37 PM

 ^ he is on the same stuff
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: MIKE CAMPBELL on October 05, 2025, 06:06:15 PM
Which of course is legal and he said all the fillies are on it

He said this is the 6th or 7th positive on this in Ohio.  To me this is a bunch of bullshit and who cares, they all should  be on it if needed.


He is quite right IMO

Now as far as trainers doping horses to increase perfromance, those people need to be nailed to the wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx-9ODoYgyk&t=1275s

Abt 10 minutes into the video
Regumate is legal as long as you withdraw 48 hours out, Tim. 
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: brownmoose13 on October 05, 2025, 07:50:11 PM
I am trying to figure out how AMAC can have a trainer listed on his horses that is not only not in the state of Ohio but not even in the United States and has not been for how long and no idea if and when he will be.....but then again AMAC thinks there are special rules for him. Wonder how they give a positive test to this trainer.
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: AgentQ on October 05, 2025, 08:28:03 PM
it's harness racing, you can be as dumb or ignorant as a back of rocks. Look at the Noble's, think they cared about that fiasco they created a few weeks ago? Not a chance, just hillbillies doing their thing. As for Anthony, well in a nutshell, he's become an insufferable narcissist. The guy is a career nobody and all the respected guys in the business have no use for him. To go on a video and complain about getting a positive because either you missed the deadline or that particular horse didn't metabolize the product just shows what a complete tool he is.
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: TimTimTimbo on October 05, 2025, 10:35:51 PM
Regumate is legal as long as you withdraw 48 hours out, Tim.


OK, so it sounds like the 48 hours was not adhered to?
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: pylon on October 06, 2025, 08:56:19 AM
it's harness racing, you can be as dumb or ignorant as a back of rocks. Look at the Noble's, think they cared about that fiasco they created a few weeks ago? Not a chance, just hillbillies doing their thing. As for Anthony, well in a nutshell, he's become an insufferable narcissist. The guy is a career nobody and all the respected guys in the business have no use for him. To go on a video and complain about getting a positive because either you missed the deadline or that particular horse didn't metabolize the product just shows what a complete tool he is.

there is a history of that....years ago, on a discussion board here in Ontario, he cried and whined about a positive his Paper Trainer wife Amy received in Ontario...the crying went on for 6 pages before it ended...
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: Ramnap on October 06, 2025, 09:55:34 AM
Who cares about regumate? Only people that dont have a clue like the osrc, chris dragone, matt schuler. 
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: Brown jug on October 06, 2025, 12:00:44 PM
agreed
lets not get worried about a legal drug that is slightly over or slightly above dosage
 far bigger issues in the sport
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: Stan durbread on October 21, 2025, 05:11:52 PM
Which of course is legal and he said all the fillies are on it

He said this is the 6th or 7th positive on this in Ohio.  To me this is a bunch of bullshit and who cares, they all should  be on it if needed.


He is quite right IMO

Now as far as trainers doping horses to increase perfromance, those people need to be nailed to the wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx-9ODoYgyk&t=1275s

Abt 10 minutes into the video

He might be right about Regumate but that is not what he got a positive test for.
Trendione (developmental code name RU-2065; nickname Trenavar), also known as estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione, is an androgen prohormone as well as metabolite of the anabolic steroid trenbolone.[1][2][3][4][5] Trendione is to trenbolone as androstenedione is to testosterone.[6] The compound is inactive itself, showing more than 100-fold lower affinity for the androgen and progesterone receptors than trenbolone.[7][8] It is a designer steroid and has been sold on the internet as a "nutritional supplement".[1] Trendione is listed in the United States Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014.[1]
This is what the positive was for. Next excuse please
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: Yonkers1A on October 21, 2025, 06:09:08 PM
He might be right about Regumate but that is not what he got a positive test for.
Trendione (developmental code name RU-2065; nickname Trenavar), also known as estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione, is an androgen prohormone as well as metabolite of the anabolic steroid trenbolone.[1][2][3][4][5] Trendione is to trenbolone as androstenedione is to testosterone.[6] The compound is inactive itself, showing more than 100-fold lower affinity for the androgen and progesterone receptors than trenbolone.[7][8] It is a designer steroid and has been sold on the internet as a "nutritional supplement".[1] Trendione is listed in the United States Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014.[1]
This is what the positive was for. Next excuse please

Thanks Stan, some good facts here.

Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: toothman on October 21, 2025, 06:39:14 PM
He might be right about Regumate but that is not what he got a positive test for.
Trendione (developmental code name RU-2065; nickname Trenavar), also known as estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione, is an androgen prohormone as well as metabolite of the anabolic steroid trenbolone.[1][2][3][4][5] Trendione is to trenbolone as androstenedione is to testosterone.[6] The compound is inactive itself, showing more than 100-fold lower affinity for the androgen and progesterone receptors than trenbolone.[7][8] It is a designer steroid and has been sold on the internet as a "nutritional supplement".[1] Trendione is listed in the United States Designer Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2014.[1]
This is what the positive was for. Next excuse please

Yes, that weas a great explanation and analysis
Title: Re: AMAC gets a positive for Regumate
Post by: Swandre on October 22, 2025, 01:41:07 AM
“ Trainers should be aware that the use of altrenogest (trade name 'Regumate') may pose a risk of a positive finding for trenbolone or trendione.

Altrenogest is considered by the ARCI as a Class 4/C substance in geldings, colts, and horses. While the regulation of altrenogest is specific to each jurisdiction, in Indiana altrenogest remains a non-violation in fillies and mares.

Trainers are recommended to use caution when using altrenogest and consider saving samples from any altrenogest containers until all post-race tests from sampled horses have been completed”

it’s contaminated regumate. there are several positives in Ohio for it so it’s pretty clear what happened
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