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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: PurpleSheetPicks on September 26, 2025, 06:11:20 PM
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Runs away in 50.3 first start.
Last start was going backwards in 55.
If this doesn't get you a noble treatment what does.
Race 15 chester friday
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Nw15000 last 4 went 50.3 a Pelling connection horse . Izzy win nw1250 last 4 in 1:50.2 1:22 3/4s when does it stop . I agree Meadowlands got rid of him Chester should follow . Ray Burnt lol turn the Travis juice back on today both his horses were flying home. Been dead last 5-6 starts . They don’t care short horses and main reason no one wants to race against the gas . No one is 4-5 seconds better then another trainer unless they don’t feed there horses and leave in stall . But the guy that had that horse is a ok trainer . But no one on Izzy level . Gas gas gas
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Often a horses best and worst times are 5 seconds apart. Its often pace, track conditions, lameness. Its rarely "gas". And I've seen Estrada struggle at times....
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Pacer your clueless. Only struggles when he needs a trip home . On the heat is on. Other than that wins at 30%
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Pacer. Wow you are clueless. Izzy is one of the biggest gas people on the planet hey racing commission why don’t you go to his barn the morning of his races. And watch him tube a horse. You’ll learn something
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automatic call and visit from judges( assuming they dont all work from home ??!!)
put him in detention barn for 2 weeks
give him a warning and tell him he can expect some out of race testing and visits
that is his warning , if he gets caught warn him he will be tossed
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The problem with these asshole racing commissions is the go to people’s barns and take blood from horses Wednesday afternoon at 1. That does nothing. Stand in barn 4 hours before his horses race and stand there until he loads horses on trailer Follow him to track to make sure he doesn’t tube him trailer and see where the horse finishes. Going to people barns on a Wednesday afternoon is USELESS!!!
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Pacer, horses do not fluctuate 5 seconds like that because of things you listed. Maybe the t-breds do but not harness horses.
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Pacer, horses do not fluctuate 5 seconds like that because of things you listed. Maybe the t-breds do but not harness horses.
Stop it, you're making too much sense. The various racing commissions have done more harm to the industry and will be the death knoll to it unless drastic changes are made immediately. New York, Penn, Ontario and Ohio are out of control.
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Not the first time Izzy’s name has been associated with this topic.
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Was this an ongait purchase. If yes, How much ??
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Was this an ongait purchase. If yes, How much ??
Ongait: $8600
https://ongait.com/Listings/View/35477
Never went faster than 152:1
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Hank Levan former trainer and a very good and honest trainer here in Ohio no way that horse should improve 5 seconds a day run off on front end pull is racing lines up for the year
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After performances like this does anyone really wonder why hardly anyone visits a harness track? If you bet harness racing regularly you just have to wonder why. I commend Jeff Gural for trying his best to give us a clean chance to win but this is a big uphill battle.
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After performances like this does anyone really wonder why hardly anyone visits a harness track? If you bet harness racing regularly you just have to wonder why. I commend Jeff Gural for trying his best to give us a clean chance to win but this is a big uphill battle.
No different than any other sport, business, or politics......
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I’m not sure what that means? Football stadiums are packed. MLB is always setting attendance records and Trump claimed he had the largest attended inauguration ever, uh huh. So which harness tracks can claim similar? None that I know including Freehold, Northville, Pompano, Cal Expo. How about Monticello, Saratoga, Plainridge, Pocono and Yonkers. Are these tracks packing the fans into their facilities? No I’m sorry harness racing cannot be compared to sports, business or politics unfortunately.
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Izzy has to leave early Sunday morning so if the feds or investigators want to see how to tube a horse properly to win by 8 lengths go to congress hill farms in nj around 4am and wait for him to come in and load his 3 horses early races Harrah’s Philly races 1-2-3
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Same at Batavia downs, Brett derue, Shawn McDonough, mike deters, Sam smith. All using same juice as Izzy !
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Same at Batavia downs, Brett derue, Shawn McDonough, mike deters, Sam smith. All using same juice as Izzy !
Really on Deters? I was in his barn a few times during the summer at Tioga. Lots of horses, lots of work being done. Very competent help there also. I also had dinner with him and his friends on my last visit (and he picked up my dinner tab up).
Sorry, the jealous individuals are wrong on this one.
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They all do work , some give really good drugs , some give ok drugs and some give no drugs. Just because you were in his barns means he doesn’t juice, wow , you are really blind or clueless. You think trainers are going to inject when people are around watching ! Good lord .
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July 30, 2022, horse anchors away, positive .. trainers mike deters, tioga downs .
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They all do work , some give really good drugs , some give ok drugs and some give no drugs. Just because you were in his barns means he doesn’t juice, wow , you are really blind or clueless. You think trainers are going to inject when people are around watching ! Good lord .
I agree Raging pace. I had 4 cheapies at Pompano Park and never saw a trainer inject a horse. I never knew who was legit or chemists. All I know is my partners and I lost lots of money in "The Game".
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They all do work , some give really good drugs , some give ok drugs and some give no drugs. Just because you were in his barns means he doesn’t juice, wow , you are really blind or clueless. You think trainers are going to inject when people are around watching ! Good lord .
Really now? Look who is blind and clueless! Nice horses in that barn. Classified properly with the best drivers aboard! We can all wait when the USTA rulings confirm what you said.
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Usta to confirm what I said ? Look it up, it was already on there . Where do think I saw it , you think I made it up ? July 30, 2022. It’s all when you inject , how many hours or days b4 the race and what new drugs work that they can’t test for or is not showing up in the piss test . Sometimes you get nailed and sometimes you don’t.
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Usta to confirm what I said ? Look it up, it was already on there . Where do think I saw it , you think I made it up ? July 30, 2022. It’s all when you inject , how many hours or days b4 the race and what new drugs work that they can’t test for or is not showing up in the piss test . Sometimes you get nailed and sometimes you don’t.
Shit happens!
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Same at Batavia downs, Brett derue, Shawn McDonough, mike deters, Sam smith. All using same juice as Izzy !
I’ve had horses with Mike Deters for over 20 years, and I’ve never had 1 dq’d for drugs.
Substitute David P McNeight Jr for his name and I’ll agree with your list.
Deters is 2 for 17 at Batavia, so where the hell do you say he’s using the same juice.
Raging Lunatic is a better handle for you.
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I’m not sure what that means? Football stadiums are packed. MLB is always setting attendance records and Trump claimed he had the largest attended inauguration ever, uh huh. So which harness tracks can claim similar? None that I know including Freehold, Northville, Pompano, Cal Expo. How about Monticello, Saratoga, Plainridge, Pocono and Yonkers. Are these tracks packing the fans into their facilities? No I’m sorry harness racing cannot be compared to sports, business or politics unfortunately.
I wasnt referring to attendance but the fact that most sports, businesses, and politicians cheat as much or more than racing.
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Ok I get it but I still don’t agree 100%. No argument about dishonest politicians because that’s the norm. Businesses can definitely stretch the truth, or even the laws, but most are relatively honest. Sports is very subjective because many dishonest actions have been documented like Deflate Gate, the Black Sox WS scandal, false NFL injury reports etc. But 99% of all games are honest efforts in my opinion. This cannot be said of harness racing. Decades ago it was always the honesty and efforts of the drivers that were scrutinized.Today, in a total shift, it is the cheating chemists called trainers under scrutiny. If you haven’t noticed every single week the USTA publishes a list of drug cheating trainers. The betting public reads these reports and continues to move their betting resources to other venues where they believe they are getting a fair shot. In recent years the biggest, and supposedly best trainers, have been caught with illegal drugs. Then after being found guilty the powers that be issues “stays” that can delay punishments for years while they continue to race and cheat. It is the only sport that refuses to police itself aggressively and why the sport is destined for extinction.
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Hey dingus, you say deters has 2 wins at Batavia , WRONG ! If you are trying to defend him, get it right. At least 4 wins, on 9/20 mirragon, 9/24 American delight n, and last night he had 2 winners so that at least 4, not 2. I know all owners and workers want to defend their great trainers, but when you get nailed you got take some bullshit. It’s all good till you get caught then everyone has all the excuses what happened , why the trainer gets nailed. Everyone can be the best trainer if you juice to the gills. Lots of crooked drug using trainers .
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Really on Deters? I was in his barn a few times during the summer at Tioga. Lots of horses, lots of work being done. Very competent help there also. I also had dinner with him and his friends on my last visit (and he picked up my dinner tab up).
Sorry, the jealous individuals are wrong on this one.
So, you got bought out for the price of a dinner. ???
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Ok I get it but I still don’t agree 100%. No argument about dishonest politicians because that’s the norm. Businesses can definitely stretch the truth, or even the laws, but most are relatively honest. Sports is very subjective because many dishonest actions have been documented like Deflate Gate, the Black Sox WS scandal, false NFL injury reports etc. But 99% of all games are honest efforts in my opinion. This cannot be said of harness racing. Decades ago it was always the honesty and efforts of the drivers that were scrutinized.Today, in a total shift, it is the cheating chemists called trainers under scrutiny. If you haven’t noticed every single week the USTA publishes a list of drug cheating trainers. The betting public reads these reports and continues to move their betting resources to other venues where they believe they are getting a fair shot. In recent years the biggest, and supposedly best trainers, have been caught with illegal drugs. Then after being found guilty the powers that be issues “stays” that can delay punishments for years while they continue to race and cheat. It is the only sport that refuses to police itself aggressively and why the sport is destined for extinction.
Most cheaters get caught and are eventually weeded out. As far as "destined for extinction" I've been hearing that nonsense for 30 years! ngc3 ngc3 PED's in team sports and college recruiting violations are massive, far more than racing.
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So, you got bought out for the price of a dinner. ???
Not at all!
He offered it no strings attached!
Thank you for putting your 2 cents in on this!!
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The horse went a sub-27-second third quarter, and the driver was leaning flat to hold on.
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Hey dingus, you say deters has 2 wins at Batavia , WRONG ! If you are trying to defend him, get it right. At least 4 wins, on 9/20 mirragon, 9/24 American delight n, and last night he had 2 winners so that at least 4, not 2. I know all owners and workers want to defend their great trainers, but when you get nailed you got take some bullshit. It’s all good till you get caught then everyone has all the excuses what happened , why the trainer gets nailed. Everyone can be the best trainer if you juice to the gills. Lots of crooked drug using trainers .
You are really something else, you know? I hadn’t seen last nights results, where he was 2 for 7 ( which included a 1-5 shot). So now he’s 4 for 24 or 16.7%. GTFOH.
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Nw15000 last 4 went 50.3 a Pelling connection horse . Izzy win nw1250 last 4 in 1:50.2 1:22 3/4s when does it stop . I agree Meadowlands got rid of him Chester should follow . Ray Burnt lol turn the Travis juice back on today both his horses were flying home. Been dead last 5-6 starts . They don’t care short horses and main reason no one wants to race against the gas . No one is 4-5 seconds better then another trainer unless they don’t feed there horses and leave in stall . But the guy that had that horse is a ok trainer . But no one on Izzy level . Gas gas gas
Synthetic EPO, in addition to whatever compounded drugs he gets from south of the border.
Remember, when Steve McQueen was dying, he went to Mexico for treatment because they have drugs down there that are nowhere near approved by the FDA up here. You can't test for what you don't know exists and doesn't even have a known pharmaceutical name.
This horse will disappear in a month or two, like the others. Manipulating a horse to race far beyond its natural ability, despite pre-existing conditions (conformation defects, joint issues etc.) is not a sustainable endeavor.
For the first time in my life, I'm rooting for the demise of Harness Racing. It's become so unredeemable, criminal, slimy, toxic and broken, that it is truly an abomination to society.
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Mike Deters is a hard working trainer with good help. He is an a one guy!
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Usta to confirm what I said ? Look it up, it was already on there . Where do think I saw it , you think I made it up ? July 30, 2022. It’s all when you inject , how many hours or days b4 the race and what new drugs work that they can’t test for or is not showing up in the piss test . Sometimes you get nailed and sometimes you don’t.
Yes, you are correct, but let’s not make a mountain out of a mole hill. It was for a class 4 drug (methocarbomal overage).
3 days and a $500 fine.
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I was at Meadowlands when they told him don’t drop in . Others should follow . Biggest gas and liar in racing .
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Dude is a chemist nobody improves him
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The horses that raced well for this horses previous connections, usually step up big in their new environments. WORD! tmbz1
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Yes, you are correct, but let’s not make a mountain out of a mole hill. It was for a class 4 drug (methocarbomal overage).
3 days and a $500 fine.
Agree with you here. Things like methocarbamol and several others, are pretty innocuous and have a therapeutic use case, and you have to assume they're legitimate mistakes on overages or withdrawal times because they clearly test. Not that that's "ok," but can happen.
It's the stuff they aren't testing for, and/or things being used in such a way they don't or can't test.
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Scumbag Izzy!!
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Is Izzy a Pena disciple?
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Izzy is a juicer !!!!! Has been for years . No mystery here. Check his horses out in the paddock 1/2 the time they are out of their minds. unfortunately for him the juice does not work on all his horses.
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The "Frog Juice" has been a Mexican favorite for a decades amigo.!! 🐸
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Call iCE