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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: pocketrocketwinner on August 21, 2025, 07:10:56 PM
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They better hope Portnoy starts to back off.
He has the reach and ability to bust the entire thing wide open.
Something to keep an eye on.
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Portnoy does not seem to be the type to back off, but we shall see. I saw where he was calling out pay outs yesterday.
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The race he complained about wasn’t that bad. It should have paid $120 it paid $92. Portnoy posted a $1 exact price.
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They better hope Portnoy starts to back off.
He has the reach and ability to bust the entire thing wide open.
Something to keep an eye on.
so Dave Portnoy, a guy who....
1) said "if you are skinny and wear a size 6--you kind of deserved to be raped" -
2) has been caught on video tape using the N-word and joking about blackface
3) has posted online "sexually harassing comments" towards a female Deadspin employee
4) has called the ship which held Great Thunberg to be.... (verbatim) " I hope they hit like a fucking missile on her boat. Knock that boat down"
5) handcuffed himself to NFL headquarters in Manhattan demanding to talk to Goodell
6) created fake presses the day before Super Bowl LIII forcing him to placed in a holding cell
7) in November 2021 was allegedly accused of raping three women and video taping them without their consent
and that is the guy who can blow everything up?
wow
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so Dave Portnoy, a guy who....
1) said "if you are skinny and wear a size 6--you kind of deserved to be raped" -
2) has been caught on video tape using the N-word and joking about blackface
3) has posted online "sexually harassing comments" towards a female Deadspin employee
4) has called the ship which held Great Thunberg to be.... (verbatim) " I hope they hit like a fucking missile on her boat. Knock that boat down"
5) handcuffed himself to NFL headquarters in Manhattan demanding to talk to Goodell
6) created fake presses the day before Super Bowl LIII forcing him to placed in a holding cell
7) in November 2021 was allegedly accused of raping three women and video taping them without their consent
and that is the guy who can blow everything up?
wow
Hey Trump was accused of 29 rapes and Convicted of one, plus 34 felonies, tax fraud, and he became President ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Hey Trump was accused of 29 rapes and Convicted of one, plus 34 felonies, tax fraud, and he became President ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
excellent point tmbz1
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so Dave Portnoy, a guy who....
1) said "if you are skinny and wear a size 6--you kind of deserved to be raped" -
2) has been caught on video tape using the N-word and joking about blackface
3) has posted online "sexually harassing comments" towards a female Deadspin employee
4) has called the ship which held Great Thunberg to be.... (verbatim) " I hope they hit like a fucking missile on her boat. Knock that boat down"
5) handcuffed himself to NFL headquarters in Manhattan demanding to talk to Goodell
6) created fake presses the day before Super Bowl LIII forcing him to placed in a holding cell
7) in November 2021 was allegedly accused of raping three women and video taping them without their consent
and that is the guy who can blow everything up?
wow
He has 3.7 million followers on Twitter alone. That's the point. And he's repeatedly talking about caws. This isn't a political commentary thread or one involving his personal history.
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He has 3.7 million followers on Twitter alone. That's the point. And he's repeatedly talking about caws. This isn't a political commentary thread or one involving his personal history.
I had no idea who he was until I checked Wikipedia
also..I had no idea alleged rape was a political stance one way or another
at least he is talking about CAWs--instead of ignoring the facts about what they are doing
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I had no idea who he was until I checked Wikipedia
also..I had no idea alleged rape was a political stance one way or another
at least he is talking about CAWs--instead of ignoring the facts about what they are doing
I have no interest in going tit for tat with you. Im not advocating for Dave portnoy. If you dont care for this thread that's too bad.
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I have no interest in going tit for tat with you. Im not advocating for Dave portnoy. If you dont care for this thread that's too bad.
I like the thread--anyone who is shedding light on CAWs I applaud
I am just a little perplexed that a man with such a colorful past is so revered and has 3.7 million people hanging on his every word
that's all--nothing political here
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Portnoy also did a lot of good during the covid 19 era, he raised money to keep pizza restaurants open.
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It's sad to say for gamblers but Portnoy may be our only chance to bust it open. He loves racing and gambling and has the resources and audience to expose it all.
We are never going to get any transparency from the meadowlands or woodbine mohawk.
Orourke the ceo of nyra recently told us that he doesn't know if the caws are in his win pools. That's where we are at. It's disgraceful.
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It's sad to say for gamblers but Portnoy may be our only chance to bust it open. He loves racing and gambling and has the resources and audience to expose it all.
We are never going to get any transparency from the meadowlands or woodbine mohawk.
Orourke the ceo of nyra recently told us that he doesn't know if the caws are in his win pools. That's where we are at. It's disgraceful.
ngc3
NYRA is a minority owner of Elite Turf Club as 1/ST is the major owner
I find it funny he doesn't know about any CAW at NYRA tracks
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ngc3
NYRA is a minority owner of Elite Turf Club as 1/ST is the major owner
I find it funny he doesn't know about any CAW at NYRA tracks
Yes. He has the balls to actually say that on air that he doesn't know while being the track ceo and owner of the caw.
Recent study shows that 56% of the total pick 5 pool comes in in the very last wagering cycle. As we know. Retail players of incapable of betting that many tickets in 1 cycle. No matter how fast your fingers are. All of that is CAW money.
This wasn't a harness study but I'd bet a significant amount that that 56% last cycle number is true at meadowlands and mohawk as well
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Yes. He has the balls to actually say that on air that he doesn't know while being the track owner and owner of the caw.
Recent study shows that 56% of the total pick 5 pool comes in in the very last wagering cycle. As we know. Retail players of incapable of betting that many tickets in 1 cycle. No matter how fast your fingers are. All of that is CAW money.
This wasn't a harness study but I'd bet a significant amount that that 56% last cycle number is true at meadowlands and mohawk as well
that sounds accurate from what I have learned
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CAW is driving away new fans. The old-timers will stay around, but this late money odds shift sends a bad message that something fishy is going on to a sport that already has so many fans thinking it's not being run with honesty.
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CAW is driving away new fans. The old-timers will stay around, but this late money odds shift sends a bad message that something fishy is going on to a sport that already has so many fans thinking it's not being run with honesty.
yes, the betting way after the race starts, certainly is being recognized now-i am receiving less resistance about the open window facts I have been talking about for the last 15 years
there are no new fans
just a few thousand of us old farts left who even follow the dying sport
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NYRA's strategy is to have Andy Serling flat out tell you to stay out of the exacta and trifecta pools and bet the win pool.
Track employees telling you to your face that their product is corrupted. That's horse racing in 2025.
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What stops 20 gamblers getting together and creating their own CAW syndicate?
Would they not have access to the needed software.
Does one of them have to have the ability to write their syndicate's software.
I'd guess the banks and investment firms have the same advantages in the stock market.
How do you level the playing field for individual gamblers and investors?
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What stops 20 gamblers getting together and creating their own CAW syndicate?
Would they not have access to the needed software.
Does one of them have to have the ability to write their syndicate's software.
I'd guess the banks and investment firms have the same advantages in the stock market.
How do you level the playing field for individual gamblers and investors?
Cut the caws off from every pool at 3 mtp.
If you have the money to bet big and can create very sophisticated AI you could do it. The tracks own their own caws
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What stops 20 gamblers getting together and creating their own CAW syndicate?
Would they not have access to the needed software.
Does one of them have to have the ability to write their syndicate's software.
I'd guess the banks and investment firms have the same advantages in the stock market.
How do you level the playing field for individual gamblers and investors?
from what I have heard--it costs $40k to get the software and it is $10k a month to allow you direct access to the pools
and then you must find a racetrack(s) that will allow you to play--and they usually have a very high minimum handle they require to even let you play
this was 5 years ago when I spoke to a 1/ST customer service representative
there is no level playing field-those days are long gone
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he called "riders up" for The Travers on Fox and was a guest for about 5 minutes on the panel
I thought that was eerie considering since we were just discussing him
he called Suffolk Downs a dump-i chuckled
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This guy might be a bit of a nut but without people like him we have nothing, This game can survive drug trainers but can not survive bad racing with low payoffs,
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The CAWs had a very strong saratoga meet. Harness should be thankful the AI isnt quite that sharp at the meadowlands. Not yet anyway.
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from what I have heard--it costs $40k to get the software and it is $10k a month to allow you direct access to the pools
and then you must find a racetrack(s) that will allow you to play--and they usually have a very high minimum handle they require to even let you play
this was 5 years ago when I spoke to a 1/ST customer service representative
there is no level playing field-those days are long gone
Friggin clueless ngc3
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Superstar poster, One of a very few people that knows the importance of fair play and i mean very few,
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Superstar poster, One of a very few people that knows the importance of fair play and i mean very few,
thank you, Sir
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Friggin clueless ngc3
If he's "friggin clueless" in his reply, why don't you share why.
Or are you still hurting? Who hurt you?
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If he's "friggin clueless" in his reply, why don't you share why.
Or are you still hurting? Who hurt you?
Love it Swank tmbz1.. yes Papillon is one of the best on here and it's great to see Any1Left back on posting occasionally. He is a wealth of knowledge
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I am all for anyone who is in a position of authority, notoriety, or whatever, advocating against CAW's and for a fair and equal playing field for wagering. I don't think Portnoy is someone who can really bring about change, nor does he have the respect and credibility to be a catalyst for change, but him talking about it is hopefully better than not. I hope it brings others to the efforts.
His positions and handling of labor relations, corporate culture, etc., makes him a bit of a heretic and many feel he is anti-labor. His actions with his company were very controversial, and illegal, but I don't know that he ever followed through with his threats, although he was warned by the NY State DOL and a NY Congresswoman; which is never a good thing, LOL. He was investigated by the NLRB and he reached an informal settlement with them. I guess his gambling got him into trouble many years ago, but I don't know if that helps the cause here, LOL.
I think his comments, thoughts, and actions related to women, rape, his racist comments, and sexual harassment, are deplorable, and least for me, that in and of itself invalidates any credibility he may have had. I don't know if the sexual harassment claims were ever concluded, but after everything he's said, his views, etc., where there's smoke there's fire. Not my kind of guy.
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I am all for anyone who is in a position of authority, notoriety, or whatever, advocating against CAW's and for a fair and equal playing field for wagering. I don't think Portnoy is someone who can really bring about change, nor does he have the respect and credibility to be a catalyst for change, but him talking about it is hopefully better than not. I hope it brings others to the efforts.
His positions and handling of labor relations, corporate culture, etc., makes him a bit of a heretic and many feel he is anti-labor. His actions with his company were very controversial, and illegal, but I don't know that he ever followed through with his threats, although he was warned by the NY State DOL and a NY Congresswoman; which is never a good thing, LOL. He was investigated by the NLRB and he reached an informal settlement with them. I guess his gambling got him into trouble many years ago, but I don't know if that helps the cause here, LOL.
I think his comments, thoughts, and actions related to women, rape, his racist comments, and sexual harassment, are deplorable, and least for me, that in and of itself invalidates any credibility he may have had. I don't know if the sexual harassment claims were ever concluded, but after everything he's said, his views, etc., where there's smoke there's fire. Not my kind of guy.
very good tmbz1
this is what I was trying to express to pocketrocket
he does have 3.7 mil following him on twitter-so if he is reaching out to a portion of those about what the CAWs are doing-then that part is a good thing
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It seems like way to many people that have 3.5 million people following them have a history like his including the most talked about guy on this site. Never heard of Dave Portnoy and i guess that is a good thing.
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so Dave Portnoy, a guy who....
6) created fake presses the day before Super Bowl LIII forcing him to placed in a holding cell
7) in November 2021 was allegedly accused of raping three women and video taping them without their consent
and that is the guy who can blow everything up?
wow
#6 is fucking funny
#7 is fucking stewpid how is somebody allegedly accused
How about I allegedly accuse u to be a old senile fucking retard
We know all u dinosaurs don’t know Dave portnoy because u didn’t get filthy rich on $PENN when I told u to buy in 2020 $3 to $135 in a year
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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/litigation/barstool-sports-founder-accused-of-rape-loses-insider-libel-suit
https://www.sportico.com/law/analysis/2022/david-portnoy-lawsuit-1234660299/
https://www.businessinsider.com/barstool-sports-dave-portnoy-sex-choking-violent-stoolies
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/11/04/frightening-sex-allegations-made-against-barstool-sports-founder-portnoy-which-he-denies-in-video/
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/sexual-assault-group-campaigns-to-shut-down-barstool/
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