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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: The Answer on July 29, 2025, 04:37:51 PM
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Who would of predicted this?
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Casie is undefeated in breaking down young horses--nobody even close to her record.
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Definitely only worried about making the money as fast as she can with no care about the horse's long term well being.
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If they are doing out of comp. testing there is no reason to show up. CC is another trainer whose success was not real.
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I strongly disagree with your assessments of CC.
Unlike the real cheaters like Allard, CC had the same winning % in retention then out of retention. Allard could not beat a fat man out of a shit pile and was barred from racing on the WEG circuit.
You don't produce stallions like American Ideal Betterthencheddar Sportwriter McWicked with PEDs.
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I strongly disagree with your assessments of CC.
Unlike the real cheaters like Allard, CC had the same winning % in retention then out of retention. Allard could not beat a fat man out of a shit pile and was barred from racing on the WEG circuit.
You don't produce stallions like American Ideal Betterthencheddar Sportwriter McWicked with PEDs.
CC didn't produce American Ideal - who was given to her. The rest are horrible fake sires and no one wants to breed to them. Tell me how she owns horses with Navarro, Surick and Oaks and doesn't get questioned? You want us all to believe she didn't know what they were doing to her T-breds that they spent HUGE money on? The queen on EPO & special yogurt and now mysteriously retired and shovels ozempic by the syringe full. Has this girl done anything legit in her life?????
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Many think she was the 🐀 ! tmbz1
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I strongly disagree with your assessments of CC.
Unlike the real cheaters like Allard, CC had the same winning % in retention then out of retention. Allard could not beat a fat man out of a shit pile and was barred from racing on the WEG circuit.
You don't produce stallions like American Ideal Betterthencheddar Sportwriter McWicked with PEDs.
the blood building peds are used way before retention time and even in retention she still got the "yogurt" into them . Don't be giving CC a pass . There's a reason she's not down as traner anymore
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right on fellas
american ideal was before the ped started
betting line, mcwicked etc , no thanks
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where is timeonmyside?
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If you think she gave every known vitamin and used every medical device on her horses but stopped at the blood builders than you're a bigger idiot than I thought possible. Furthermore, Robinson and Gelrod used EPO on all their good horses and last time i checked many of them are todays leading sires, art major--mach three-etc
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Pelling went back home for 10 years and it wasn't because he wanted to but because he had to. Gelrod and Robinson they got caught and if you look today a lot of their owners are still in the business.
you might say what you want about CC, BUT she never got caught.
Without a doubt the best yearling picker ever and you might think she's dirty but she never got caught.
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Pelling went back home for 10 years and it wasn't because he wanted to but because he had to. Gelrod and Robinson they got caught and if you look today a lot of their owners are still in the business.
you might say what you want about CC, BUT she never got caught.
Without a doubt the best yearling picker ever and you might think she's dirty but she never got caught.
You don't count the yogurt incident? Like Pelling CC did not go away on her own.
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You don't count the yogurt incident? Like Pelling CC did not go away on her own.
What the fuck are you talking about….did she not win the jug that day?
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What the fuck are you talking about….did she not win the jug that day?
Betting Line wins Little Brown Jug amid controversy.
Published 8:28 PM EDT, September 22, 2016
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DELAWARE, Ohio (AP) — Heavily favored Betting Line captured the Little Brown Jug under a cloud of controversy on Thursday after the discovery of text messages that implied the winning horse may have been given an unauthorized supplement.
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If you think she gave every known vitamin and used every medical device on her horses but stopped at the blood builders than you're a bigger idiot than I thought possible. Furthermore, Robinson and Gelrod used EPO on all their good horses and last time i checked many of them are todays leading sires, art major--mach three-etc
Who the fuck are you kidding? Precious Bunny was a joke in the shed. Riyahd couldn't breed. Robinson's best stud by far was Cam's Card Shark and you know what he bought every horse he sent to the shed. He did not develop one Stud. His horses were loaded with Equipoise and Epo. Exactly why they couldn't breed and had low semen counts. Chuck Slyvester was same way. If you look Muscles Yankee didn't start to breed until 7-8 yrs of age because of no semen. Pine Chip couldn't breed and had very very few offspring. Mack Lobell another disaster. If Chuck had a top trotter today not one farm would touch that horse with a ten foot pole.
History and reputation doesn't lie. As far a CC she's all drugs and her horses are completely fake. No natural talent hence why they can't pass it on in the stud barn. Not one stud she has had that she developed as been worth a shit. Betting Line was a monster horse with grit and got great mares and flopped. Shows that horse was fake. No other way to explain it.
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Who the fuck are you kidding? Precious Bunny was a joke in the shed. Riyahd couldn't breed. Robinson's best stud by far was Cam's Card Shark and you know what he bought every horse he sent to the shed. He did not develop one Stud. His horses were loaded with Equipoise and Epo. Exactly why they couldn't breed and had low semen counts. Chuck Slyvester was same way. If you look Muscles Yankee didn't start to breed until 7-8 yrs of age because of no semen. Pine Chip couldn't breed and had very very few offspring. Mack Lobell another disaster. If Chuck had a top trotter today not one farm would touch that horse with a ten foot pole.
History and reputation doesn't lie. As far a CC she's all drugs and her horses are completely fake. No natural talent hence why they can't pass it on in the stud barn. Not one stud she has had that she developed as been worth a shit. Betting Line was a monster horse with grit and got great mares and flopped. Shows that horse was fake. No other way to explain it.
Mach Three is the sire of Somebeach while Art Major not only threw his share of good horses but is arguably the premiere broadsire sire of this generation.
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Robinson bought Mach Three as a three yr old and didn't develop shit! EPOOOOOOOOOOO
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I thought your point is that these drugged up horses never made it as sires. So, what difference does it make who broke and started the horse?
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Big Bill broke and trained Mach Three.
Maybe stick to your chips and salsa
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No he didn't, Chris Ryder had that horse early on as well as Cathedra Dot Com both going up to Bill in their 3 yr old season.
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Big Bill broke and trained Mach Three.
Maybe stick to your chips and salsa
No he did not. Ryder broke and trained down and Muscara bought him for big money.
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where is timeonmyside?
I saw McDonald on his stable youtube channel said a little time off then qualifying again later in the month.