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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Chips N Salsa on July 28, 2025, 12:19:17 PM
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Wait till driver changes are announced. Someone getting the screw job....
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I heard there will be some type of brunch tomorrow at M1 drawing the fields for Hambo and Hambo Oaks
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I heard there will be some type of brunch tomorrow at M1 drawing the fields for Hambo and Hambo Oaks
"The post-position draws for the Hambletonian and Hambletonian Oaks will take place on Tuesday (July 29) at Chateau Grande in East Brunswick, NJ.
The luncheon begins at 2 p.m. and all are welcome to attend for free.
Carson Kressley and Jessica Otten will host the event with Ken Warkentin providing interviews.
The draws for The Hambo and Oaks will start at 3 p.m. For those who cannot be there, the event will stream on Meadowlands Facebook Live and the Meadowlands YouTube channel."
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Wait till driver changes are announced. Someone getting the screw job....
Dexter taking Maryland?
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Wait till driver changes are announced. Someone getting the screw job....
Really only a few expected as Dexter and Zeron each qualified 2.
I expect Scotty to stay with Maximus Mearas. I have a guess that he was actually given the chance to stay with Super Chapter after the EBC but has been committed to MMS all winter. Meshugga is a nice horse but kind of finicky and a slight step behind the top ones. He has shown a few breaks leaving so driver will be important.
I think Dunn goes with Super Chapter but if not then I think David drove him a bit last year and may get the call.
Two drives with Tetrick, Miller, JMac, Bartlett and others free
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Really only a few expected as Dexter and Zeron each qualified 2.
I expect Scotty to stay with Maximus Mearas. I have a guess that he was actually given the chance to stay with Super Chapter after the EBC but has been committed to MMS all winter. Meshugga is a nice horse but kind of finicky and a slight step behind the top ones. He has shown a few breaks leaving so driver will be important.
I think Dunn goes with Super Chapter but if not then I think David drove him a bit last year and may get the call.
Two drives with Tetrick, Miller, JMac, Bartlett and others free
Both You and Harness Racer expect...in most every case we go with the Driver's choice, in very rare times it turns out the horse they got off, wins.
I see the value in both Zero's picks, my pick Is Meshuggah.
I imagine it's going to be a tough choice for SZ.
But I don't give a shit, I'm with Meshuggah, besides the fact, that was MMS second race back, and while looked great a lot of times they come back sore when they put in a big effort, MMS put in a 80% effort and still looked great.
Meshuggah! ;D
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it would be completely shocking if DD doesnt choose Super Chapter
the horse will be heavily favored
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it would be completely shocking if DD doesnt choose Super Chapter
the horse will be heavily favored
I agree
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it would be completely shocking if DD doesnt choose Super Chapter
the horse will be heavily favored
I love Super Chapter, who doesn't, the horse doesn't know his limitations, and MMS was looking better than him in the stretch. Odds, who ran fastest last and before, it's about who is peaking first and foremost.
MMS looked like a million bux, SC looked like a million bux spent and....
Mushuggah is ready to murder to finally get to run! ;D
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Both You and Harness Racer expect...in most every case we go with the Driver's choice, in very rare times it turns out the horse they got off, wins.
I see the value in both Zero's picks, my pick Is Meshuggah.
I imagine it's going to be a tough choice for SZ.
But I don't give a shit, I'm with Meshuggah, besides the fact, that was MMS second race back, and while looked great a lot of times they come back sore when they put in a big effort, MMS put in a 80% effort and still looked great.
Meshuggah! ;D
I like Meshugga and think if SZ gets him free earlier he would have been 2nd and maybe won the elim. I just think he is 3rd best of Melander’s and think if MMS wasn’t an option SZ would take whoever Dex didn’t drive over him.
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super chapter better than maryland at this time
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super chapter better than maryland at this time
Absolutely agree
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Anybody remember the Pelling Quote when his driver opted off one of his horse in the final of The Little Brown Jug?
This was several years ago.
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The one I remember best is Mike LaChance getting the drive on Shady Character and winning the Jug.
I believe it was Pierce's choice.
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Yannick had choice of Pinkman and Mission Brief and picked wrong. I predict dexter takes Maryland barring he draws 9-10 holes. I think Zeron sticks with Maximus Meras. Meshuggah gets some swedish import and Super Chapter gets anyone but Tetrick or David. I guarantee they will not let those two drive Super Chapter. Depending on where Maryland draws he's going right down the highway as hard and as fast as he can. Let him get loose on the lead and you will never catch him. I think they will be straight alignment at the 1/4 OR if someone is parked they are going to be taking major air because Dexter won't let anyone go and will send him on a speed mission. First three starts mean nothing and Dexter played the long game along with Melanders. He's got one race to win and one time to empty the tank. Saturday he will be ready to launch.
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Yannick had choice of Pinkman and Mission Brief and picked wrong. I predict dexter takes Maryland barring he draws 9-10 holes. I think Zeron sticks with Maximus Meras. Meshuggah gets some swedish import and Super Chapter gets anyone but Tetrick or David. I guarantee they will not let those two drive Super Chapter. Depending on where Maryland draws he's going right down the highway as hard and as fast as he can. Let him get loose on the lead and you will never catch him. I think they will be straight alignment at the 1/4 OR if someone is parked they are going to be taking major air because Dexter won't let anyone go and will send him on a speed mission. First three starts mean nothing and Dexter played the long game along with Melanders. He's got one race to win and one time to empty the tank. Saturday he will be ready to launch.
very bold prediction
I agree Maryland's best chance is to blast away and not yield
if DD does choose Maryland that would mean Super Chapter isn't that dominant over this group
several posters across many threads keep mentioning Maryland even though he is 0-4 this year
must be that BC win last year that makes him attractive
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Yannick had choice of Pinkman and Mission Brief and picked wrong. I predict dexter takes Maryland barring he draws 9-10 holes. I think Zeron sticks with Maximus Meras. Meshuggah gets some swedish import and Super Chapter gets anyone but Tetrick or David. I guarantee they will not let those two drive Super Chapter. Depending on where Maryland draws he's going right down the highway as hard and as fast as he can. Let him get loose on the lead and you will never catch him. I think they will be straight alignment at the 1/4 OR if someone is parked they are going to be taking major air because Dexter won't let anyone go and will send him on a speed mission. First three starts mean nothing and Dexter played the long game along with Melanders. He's got one race to win and one time to empty the tank. Saturday he will be ready to launch.
I'm not sure of the strategy, but I think Maryland is the winner if Dexter is driving.
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Anybody remember the Pelling Quote when his driver opted off one of his horse in the final of The Little Brown Jug?
This was several years ago.
The one I remember best is Mike LaChance getting the drive on Shady Character and winning the Jug.
I believe it was Pierce's choice.
I think that was the race.
After the race Pelling was quoted as saying something like.
"We bring them (catch drivers) to the dance we don't have to dance with them"!
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very bold prediction
I agree Maryland's best chance is to blast away and not yield
if DD does choose Maryland that would mean Super Chapter isn't that dominant over this group
several posters across many threads keep mentioning Maryland even though he is 0-4 this year
must be that BC win last year that makes him attractive
I would not be at all surprised if Dex sticks with Maryland. It was not just his BC win last year - the horse ran the table last year. He finished strong this week. If Dex does go with SC it should tell the public a lot.
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If Dexter intended to drive Maryland he would have won his elimination to insure a decent PP. However, if his head was thinking Super then the late drive of Maryland to the line becomes much better understood ;>>)
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Getting news that a driver that already has a horse in the final will pick off for what ever horse DD does not choose. I know who but don't wanna spoil the surprise.....LOL
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Getting news that a driver that already has a horse in the final will pick off for what ever horse DD does not choose. I know who but don't wanna spoil the surprise.....LOL
Andy M seems like an obvious choice. He has been driving some for Melander and has Blank in the final which is also a Melander horse.
Would leave Blank and Meshugga needing drivers. Could see JMac getting one if he is in town.
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Getting news that a driver that already has a horse in the final will pick off for what ever horse DD does not choose. I know who but don't wanna spoil the surprise.....LOL
Has to be Yannick which is surprising he does very little work for Melander. Can’t see Andrew leaving Noel and Todd isn’t leaving GDG. Zeron is locked in on Maximus
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Has to be Yannick which is surprising he does very little work for Melander. Can’t see Andrew leaving Noel and Todd isn’t leaving GDG. Zeron is locked in on Maximus
Andrew made the final with Blank not OnaJetPlane
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NORDIC CATCHER IS NOT SITTING IN A HOLE 11.wp
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Andrew made the final with Blank not OnaJetPlane
USTA says Dexter will pick after draw and Yannick will take other one. So that means if Maryland draws well Dexter is taking him as SC can’t draw bad.
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USTA says Dexter will pick after draw and Yannick will take other one. So that means if Maryland draws well Dexter is taking him as SC can’t draw bad.
I feel you are reading into this a bit much
so you feel if Maryland doesn't draw a horrible post, then DD chooses Maryland over SC?
I doubt that the fact the DD hasn't already announced his choice is indicative that he really likes Maryland
Super Chapter will be odds on despite any of the other 9 post positions and I still will be very surprised if SC isn't DDs choice
.... the elim winners is just a blind 1-6 draw-instead of picking posts
I feel it wouldn't be fair if any elim winners gets stuck with the horrible #1 post--only posts worse than #1 would be #9 and #10---i feel post #8 is better than post #1
Hambletonian Society should catch up with the times and wake up and realize how bad post #1 really is
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I feel you are reading into this a bit much
so you feel if Maryland doesn't draw a horrible post, then DD chooses Maryland over SC?
I doubt that the fact the DD hasn't already announced his choice is indicative that he really likes Maryland
Super Chapter will be odds on despite any of the other 9 post positions and I still will be very surprised if SC isn't DDs choice
.... the elim winners is just a blind 1-6 draw-instead of picking posts
I feel it wouldn't be fair if any elim winners gets stuck with the horrible #1 post--only posts worse than #1 would be #9 and #10---i feel post #8 is better than post #1
Hambletonian Society should catch up with the times and wake up and realize how bad post #1 really is
We will see but if Maryland draws six or in I think Dexter takes him.
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Post Position Stats
1/03/2025 – 07/19/2025
Positions 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Starts 795 795 795 795 794 789 766 696 565 384 16 3
Win 83 96 76 91 115 115 84 70 50 21 2 0
Place 108 93 93 73 103 115 77 65 35 26 0 0
Show 116 109 86 87 89 90 78 63 46 29 3 0
% in Money
Win 10.4 12.1 9.6 11.4 14.5 14.6 11.0 10.1 8.8 5.5 12.5 0.0
Place 24.0 23.8 21.3 20.6 27.5 29.2 21.0 19.4 15.0 12.2 12.5 00.0
Show 38.6 37.5 32.1 31.6 38.7 40.6 31.2 28.4 23.2 19.8 31.3 00.0
Percentage of Winning Favorites: 41.01%
this shows posts #8 and #1 are very close in win % and look at how horrible post #3 is
elim winners should get the first three choices
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USTA says Dexter will pick after draw and Yannick will take other one. So that means if Maryland draws well Dexter is taking him as SC can’t draw bad.
Color me wrong and surprised. Melander does use Yannick much and imo not real great in these situations
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(John campbell let it slip that he can't stand gural during the press conference.
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(John campbell let it slip that he can't stand gural during the press conference.
ngc3
True, said "can't stand" then switched, and an embarrassing laugh by JC to "can't thank the Meadowlands staff", then names Settlemoir and Gural...the subconscious! ;D
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(John campbell let it slip that he can't stand gural during the press conference.
ngc3
was hilarious
Otten stumbled over her words and said Miss Belmar was at the top of her game--when in fact she bobbled and almost broke-was life and death to hold on
Warkentin was shaking like a leaf-the guy has called like 30 or more Hambletonians-why so nervous?
Settemoir going for the blonde Pat Riley look
Ake won the draw and will be blasting and is my pick
DD hasn't decided yet-which I find a bit of a surprise
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I think that was the race.
After the race Pelling was quoted as saying something like.
"We bring them (catch drivers) to the dance we don't have to dance with them"!
Pelling also once said after breaking the record for the most wins at a M1 meet..If I didn't have so many lazy Americans working for me, I would have won twice as many.
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First quarter will be interesting - Todd and Ake are going to bomb while the inside ones will have to find a way not to get pinned. Whoever is on the lead at the quarter will either have to go down the road or end up shuffled and pinned.
Don’t like Meshugga getting the rail.
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wow - wish i could have had the parlay on YG picking up the drive and Goop getting the other drive. 1st quarter gonna be really fun but only think Ake is getting is some of the fresh NJ air and in the way when he collapses at the 1/2 and wipes out the flow. 26.1 - 53.4 - 120.4 - ?????
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Why even throw in the last race on the card? Make in an all stakes event. Seems dumb.
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1 – Meshuggah – Bjorn Goop – Marcus Melander – 20-1
2 – Super Chapter – Dexter Dunn – Marcus Melander – 5-2
3 – Emoticon Legacy – Louis Roy – Luc Blais – 4-1
4 – Maryland – Dexter Dunn – Marcus Melander – 3-1
5 – Maximus Mearas S – Scott Zeron – Lucas Wallin – 6-1
6 – Nordic Catcher S – Ake Svanstedt – Ake Svanstedt – 9-2
7 – Gap Kronos S – Tim Tetrick – Ake Svanstedt – 20-1
8 – Blank – Andy McCarthy – Marcus Melander – 25-1
9 – Greenma – Trond Smedshammer – Trond Smedshammer – 25-1
10 – Go Dog Go – Todd McCarthy – Carter Pinske – 10-1
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Does anyone remember the Adventures of Superman episode where the Man of Steel was in prison and split in two? Later he becomes one again and saves the day. I wonder if Melander and Dunn might be thinking about experimenting so Dex can drive both?
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I'm fucking thrilled Melander threw this nit wit Scotty Zero off this horse, the nit wit landed on the 2nd best peaking horse.
Melander post Hambo interview "Bjorn was a better fit....
1 hole, yum, just give this Meshuggahafucker 1/4-3/8 mile of track to trot free and it's goodnight! ;D
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I'm fucking thrilled Melander threw this nit wit Scotty Zero off this horse, the nit wit landed on the 2nd best peaking horse.
Melander post Hambo interview "Bjorn was a better fit....
1 hole, yum, just give this Meshuggahafucker 1/4-3/8 mile of track to trot free and it's goodnight! ;D
You are delusional! Scottie Z is one of the best drivers out there when the money is down. It was 100% Scottie Z's choice. Seems ridiculous to bring Bjorn in to drive.
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You are delusional! Scottie Z is one of the best drivers out there when the money is down. It was 100% Scottie Z's choice. Seems ridiculous to bring Bjorn in to drive.
Goop's got 8000 trotting wins.
he didn't drive the horse well the since and including Vernon Downs and Zero can go fuck off this race!
Bye! ;D
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Goop's got 8000 trotting wins.
Fair enough but he's looked less than stellar in the US. And 9 out of 10 of the trainers are those dreaded furriners. Alert ICE.
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Fair enough but he's looked less than stellar in the US. And 9 out of 10 of the trainers are those dreaded furriners. Alert ICE.
Trump's not liken a darker shade of pale lol, don't change the forkin subjec!
I'm going to take a good hard look at this race.
Very likely 200wp 1
Every connecting multi leg
All exotics 1st and 2nd
Now, I'm not rooting for Zero to go up in the air, he'll, the 5 will get specially attached to the 1 for a couple hundred+.
Something like this:
EX15x 25x's
TRI15xall and 15/15/all more
SUPS15/15/a/a 4xs
15/a/15/a
15/a/a/15
a/a/15/15
a/15/a/15
a/15/15/a
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Who will drive Maryland.. Miller or Yannick? Its got to be one of the two right? I'd be shocked if Dexter hops off of Super Chapter..on a side note, the Cane is a grade 2 with the new system.. how stupid is that? That'd be like the Preakness being a grade 2 race.
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I'm fucking thrilled Melander threw this nit wit Scotty Zero off this horse, the nit wit landed on the 2nd best peaking horse.
Melander post Hambo interview "Bjorn was a better fit....
1 hole, yum, just give this Meshuggahafucker 1/4-3/8 mile of track to trot free and it's goodnight! ;D
Was definitely Scotty’s call and he has been committed to MMS all winter. It does seem that there may be a separation of Melander from using Scott - not sure if there is frustration in choosing off or in style of driving. Could also be from Zeron always getting the B/C drives while Dexter can pick or choose when he wants. Will be interesting to watch.
Goop can have a billion wins but he has looked overmatched consistently when he comes to the states for Hambo day. He will gun, cause he always does, and Meshugga needs a trip. Just look at what Zeron did on last weeks card to see how good he is when the cards are down.
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Was definitely Scotty’s call and he has been committed to MMS all winter. It does seem that there may be a separation of Melander from using Scott - not sure if there is frustration in choosing off or in style of driving. Could also be from Zeron always getting the B/C drives while Dexter can pick or choose when he wants. Will be interesting to watch.
Goop can have a billion wins but he has looked overmatched consistently when he comes to the states for Hambo day. He will gun, cause he always does, and Meshugga needs a trip. Just look at what Zeron did on last weeks card to see how good he is when the cards are down.
Zero is still good with Melander, he has him on Periculum the #6 in the 11th race the one before the Hambo, The $300k Cashman.
Zero can do whatever, but he's going to be Zero in the Hambo because of - Meshuggah!
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Bjorn's late father Olle Goop is a Swedish legend.
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Bjorn's late father Olle Goop is a Swedish legend.
Coincidentally while you were sending this post I was reading in 2018, 4 years before his death, his son broke his record of 6744 wins. Nice story.
Guy's got 8000 trotting wins and these yo yos are like its nothing. Fuck off.
That's why their stands are full of fans, while these wayos are making a living on jacked up horses thinking oh they're such great drivers. Give everyone a jacked up horse in every race and you'll see these idiots barely getting to double digit win percentages. ;D
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Smedshammer was upset that Greenma only came home in 267 and said he should have won as he can trot 26 home normally
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Came home in 27 and not 26 like he should
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I heard there will be some type of brunch tomorrow at M1 drawing the fields for Hambo and Hambo Oaks
Judging by the amount of weight Warkentin has put on in recent years, looks like he's spent alot of time at the buffet table or is on the Dave Little diet.
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Trump's not liken a darker shade of pale lol, don't change the forkin subjec!
I'm going to take a good hard look at this race.
Very likely 200wp 1
Every connecting multi leg
All exotics 1st and 2nd
Now, I'm not rooting for Zero to go up in the air, he'll, the 5 will get specially attached to the 1 for a couple hundred+.
Something like this:
EX15x 25x's
TRI15xall and 15/15/all more
SUPS15/15/a/a 4xs
15/a/15/a
15/a/a/15
a/a/15/15
a/15/a/15
a/15/15/a
Please bet all your savings on Meshuggah and watch him run like a dear in the 1st turn. You obviously have no clue because that was worst post for him to draw. He can't push or he will run. If he makes through turn he will be sitting 6th or 7th and have to pull and he can't take air.
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Dexter to drive Maryland.
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Please bet all your savings on Meshuggah and watch him run like a dear in the 1st turn. You obviously have no clue because that was worst post for him to draw. He can't push or he will run. If he makes through turn he will be sitting 6th or 7th and have to pull and he can't take air.
This is spot on! I was thinking the exact same thing. If he tries to hold any kind of position I think he breaks right away. Don’t want to see Trigger lose his ass, I think he is worth a play, but not keyed like he thinks. I guess we will see on Saturday. Trigger could be the new king of plop handicappers or a blowhard with extra money to burn! tmbz1
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This is spot on! I was thinking the exact same thing. If he tries to hold any kind of position I think he breaks right away. Don’t want to see Trigger lose his ass, I think he is worth a play, but not keyed like he thinks. I guess we will see on Saturday. Trigger could be the new king of plop handicappers or a blowhard with extra money to burn! tmbz1
Made a break in the BC final from the rail with JMac and at Harrah’s a few weeks ago from the rail as a 3/5.
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This is spot on! I was thinking the exact same thing. If he tries to hold any kind of position I think he breaks right away. Don’t want to see Trigger lose his ass, I think he is worth a play, but not keyed like he thinks. I guess we will see on Saturday. Trigger could be the new king of plop handicappers or a blowhard with extra money to burn! tmbz1
Please bet all your savings on Meshuggah and watch him run like a dear in the 1st turn. You obviously have no clue because that was worst post for him to draw. He can't push or he will run. If he makes through turn he will be sitting 6th or 7th and have to pull and he can't take air.
My MO is I typically wager on stakes races, both t-bred and standardbred, somewhere in the 90% of wagering capital. Why not 100%, because I follow a hundred or so situations and horses that land wherever.
I appreciate all your input, even the harsh words, and negative outcome scenarios / predictions which y'all feel have a high probability.
I post my tics, even when I don't feel free to ask and I will.
Until race day, things are ever changing, information is coming in, weather - track conditions...
As of now, this is where I'm at, same, and ultimately the race will speak for itself, and while my opinion here is in the vast minority at least we all agree I should be getting great value in odds. I sincerely wish you all GOOD LUCK, and even in cases where our interest conflicts like now, why, because I'm a decent person and mature investor and we all co-habitat at times here socially, and for biz. ;D