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Title: AMAC
Post by: SmokeyBandit100 on July 26, 2025, 01:54:38 PM
Jesus, when will the Stable owners all come together and Tell AMAC enough of his horrible driving and ride the pine , time to retire !
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: brownmoose13 on July 26, 2025, 01:58:44 PM
the sheep have no say but wait until he drives a 1-9 favorite and you will see how good he is!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Bitter Truth on July 26, 2025, 02:01:07 PM
6/5 wasn't low enough earlier to prove it. Gets out 6th. Walled off. 30-1 winner.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 26, 2025, 02:38:05 PM
Gives him something to do despite leaving "A" drivers on the bench who can give his investors and all their horses the best possible opportunity, otherwise he'd be making more of those stupid, insane fucking videos! 

Lose lose!   ;D
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: AgentQ on July 26, 2025, 03:13:07 PM
The guy is a narcissist, can't wait to make those videos. He actually believes the nonsense he spews while 90% of the industry just laughs. He was and will always be a below average driver, has no brains and no hands. And he's a terrible trainer as well, really bad combination. Throw in a selfish manager and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone wouldn't see it. Nice guy though
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Call Sign Merlin on July 26, 2025, 03:38:50 PM
It’s honestly kind of weird - he has good stock now and guys would be willing to drive.  Hell Zeron last year game him a world record with that rat Mori and a sub 50 broodmare in Tactical Mounds.  Put Dunn up on Timeisonmyside and finishes 3rd in the graduate
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Harness racer on July 26, 2025, 03:44:18 PM
Amac sucks as a driver.   tmbz1
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: SDST2009 on July 26, 2025, 03:54:18 PM
Amac sucks as a driver.   tmbz1

Correction. He sucks as a higher-quality horse driver. He appears to be pretty good at getting extra out of the cheap horses he drives for his stable/others. I would agree he is better to hand the lines over on his nicer stock but I would not hesitate to put him on a rank trotter or a claiming pacer. He'll keep them trotting and get them to go forward more often than not, in my casual watching.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Harness racer on July 26, 2025, 04:08:17 PM
Yeah, I would agree with that.  Definitely has no business on the big stage!   tmbz1
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Pacer 2 on July 26, 2025, 04:14:54 PM
The guy is a narcissist, can't wait to make those videos. He actually believes the nonsense he spews while 90% of the industry just laughs. He was and will always be a below average driver, has no brains and no hands. And he's a terrible trainer as well, really bad combination. Throw in a selfish manager and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone wouldn't see it. Nice guy though
    He made a big job for himself and is pocketing as much as he wants.  Works hard and competes with Burke. Not sure about his driving prowess but smart and rich.....
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Bitter Truth on July 26, 2025, 04:27:16 PM
Gee you think there is much of a difference between AMac and Dexter? ngc3
How bout this Time oft he season? 1:49.2 first up? 11.wp
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: hoosierboy on July 26, 2025, 06:04:04 PM
    He made a big job for himself and is pocketing as much as he wants.  Works hard and competes with Burke. Not sure about his driving prowess but smart and rich.....

What stats does he compete with Burke on?  Sure the hell ain’t wins.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Pacer 2 on July 26, 2025, 06:10:53 PM
What stats does he compete with Burke on?  Sure the hell ain’t wins.
   Burke has more horses so dont think I mentioned stats. He constantly races against Burke in top stakes races in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Also competes with Burke at the horse sales....
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: The Unstable on July 26, 2025, 06:18:31 PM
   Burke has more horses so dont think I mentioned stats. He constantly races against Burke in top stakes races in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Also competes with Burke at the horse sales....

Races yes, competes on a rare occassion. For the amount of horses they buy the results are not great. 
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Harness racer on July 26, 2025, 07:59:34 PM
Remember it’s just for the owners to have fun!   ngc3
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Pacer 2 on July 26, 2025, 08:02:40 PM
Races yes, competes on a rare occassion. For the amount of horses they buy the results are not great.
   When AMAC talks to breeders he now has alot of clout.....
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Reh on July 26, 2025, 11:26:18 PM
Spend a mil on yearlings and lucky to have earned back 5% on that  In apr/may they were all sires & gold horses. The best in every jurisdiction. Looks like 1 is may be second or third best out of his 50 yearlings & the rest are a bunch of smelts. No foundation in his training. Can’t just go 1 trip 1 1/2 miles & hope for results. So many bleeders with over exertion when they are not ready. Think Tim does a good job with his
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 26, 2025, 11:31:06 PM
Spend a mil on yearlings and lucky to have earned back 5% on that  In apr/may they were all sires & gold horses. The best in every jurisdiction. Looks like 1 is may be second or third best out of his 50 yearlings & the rest are a bunch of smelts. No foundation in his training. Can’t just go 1 trip 1 1/2 miles & hope for results. So many bleeders with over exertion when they are not ready. Think Tim does a good job with his

 tmbz1

Nice insights, you pick your post spots and they're excellent, honest, objective information and cover a lot of ground!  Thank you!   tmbz1
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Casualfan1 on July 27, 2025, 03:51:18 AM
Just remember he was a politician who ran for office and got beat.  Listening to him you can tell. He talks and spew bullsh** just like the true politician he is. 
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Harness racer on July 27, 2025, 05:57:42 AM
Just remember he was a politician who ran for office and got beat.  Listening to him you can tell. He talks and spew bullsh** just like the true politician he is.

Absolutely.  He just wants to keep this gravy train running!  Guy has very little talent driving, but he must be quite the salesman for this gimmick to still be going this strong!   tmbz1
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Brown jug on July 27, 2025, 04:50:19 PM
going down this road again i see
and yes most comments are bang on
 but the old saying holds true, if you dont like it dont invest
what others do with their money is none of your concern
not doing anything illegal
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: wisha roder on July 28, 2025, 09:20:52 PM
Spend a mil on yearlings and lucky to have earned back 5% on that  In apr/may they were all sires & gold horses. The best in every jurisdiction. Looks like 1 is may be second or third best out of his 50 yearlings & the rest are a bunch of smelts. No foundation in his training. Can’t just go 1 trip 1 1/2 miles & hope for results. So many bleeders with over exertion when they are not ready. Think Tim does a good job with his
The Stable actually has had several good years now and another good group this year that unfortunately are not healthy at the moment.  Like a lot of other stables, they're struggling with sickness.  I don't know where you get your opinion about no foundation.  Simply not true.  I think he had around 45 yearlings last fall and i believe he had close to 40 qualify.  Tell me another training barn with those percentages.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 28, 2025, 09:26:18 PM
It's so easy to tell the fractional owners from the non-AMac cult.

Absolute zero corporate experience, and are star struck fuckers for their pocket change.

Just enjoy your ownership thrill, and those stupid fucking video which you must watch, you cannot help yourself and neither can he!

Don't feel bad the rest of us (honest) are brighter but just by levels of not that much!   ;D



Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: wisha roder on July 28, 2025, 09:34:20 PM
The guy is a narcissist, can't wait to make those videos. He actually believes the nonsense he spews while 90% of the industry just laughs. He was and will always be a below average driver, has no brains and no hands. And he's a terrible trainer as well, really bad combination. Throw in a selfish manager and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone wouldn't see it. Nice guy though
He never claims to be a top driver, just ask him.  For being such a terrible driver he has a pretty respectable average that a lot of drivers would like to have.  Same goes for their training win percentage.  I don't like aggressive drivers like Yannick or Aaron or even Anthony sometimes, but i tell you what-they always try to get you the best check they can.  I've had other drivers like Zeron who just go for a ride if they don't think they have the best horse.  He runs a clean stable and he's not hiding needles in his tackroom like a lot of guys.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: wisha roder on July 28, 2025, 09:36:14 PM
It's so easy to tell the fractional owners from the non-AMac cult.

Absolute zero corporate experience, and are star struck fuckers for their pocket change.

Just enjoy your ownership thrill, and those stupid fucking video which you must watch, you cannot help yourself and neither can he!

Don't feel bad the rest of us (honest) are brighter but just by levels of not that much!   ;D
Sounds like you watch the videos.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 28, 2025, 09:39:41 PM
As big as an asshole can get -

You didn't see George Steinbrenner swinging the stick.

This fucking fool leaves "A" drivers on the bench because he's an arrogant greedy prick - WITH YOUR MONEY!!!

The fact that he needs to be defended against the indefensible and his herd rush in with the most insane arguments known to man.

The man runs the day to day of a multi-million like in the 8 figure biz, wtf is he doing in a sulky, one accident and who is his back up and who is theirs.  You owners, are dumb fux! 

Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 28, 2025, 09:56:58 PM
Sounds like you watch the videos.

About a half dozen times out of the hundreds.

Updates on Save America, another horse I can't recall, him taking JMac to the airport and his bro is like this fucking stupid bullshit with the cam, with Hunter Meyers and after the poor kid passed...
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 28, 2025, 10:06:27 PM
Being a failed politician, at least he tried.

Not being or likely to be the best driver, or even better than his bro which whom is one of the best drivers in the world, at least he tried.

He's running a big business with a lot of lives in his hands, that's first and foremost, the investment too, very big.

The narcissism could be a benefit for a business owner and his investors but he wants to drive the horses, hey who can stop you, no one (which his investors in one loud voice should stay stop).

It's all about him, and he sets it up so you'd have to win astronomically for you to see any scratch, and for him he's a winner no matter what, and he gets to drive horses and make stupid videos.  Who knows where other dark places his narcissism takes him, in a business like this with so much money passing hands, one only can imagine.

Does that sound like a sound Executive Level Business owner?

 
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Brown jug on July 30, 2025, 10:29:06 PM
bottom line is its a results based business
the stable started with about 60 2 year olds
i see maybe two good ones so far
it is what it is
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 31, 2025, 06:36:43 PM
$56K race at Scioto, AMAC Pays $109.80 to win with Uncle Danny. Had the virus over a week ago along with the others
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2025, 06:44:52 PM
$56K race at Scioto, AMAC Pays $109.80 to win with Uncle Danny. Had the virus over a week ago along with the others

That's awesome!

It's the many others that have paid $0 to win in stakes races because of AMACuntface's ego! 

A broken clock is right twice a day!  ;D
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: darnoldrocks on July 31, 2025, 07:01:42 PM
Trigger, you ignorant prick.

Is there any subject or person, you don't consider yourself the highest level expert on?

I'd love to see you share your thoughts of Amac with him in person!

You must have failed really badly on a business venture to be this jealous of the success of someone you don't even know. 
You're pathetic. 
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: TimTimTimbo on July 31, 2025, 07:18:23 PM
Trigger, you ignorant prick.

Is there any subject or person, you don't consider yourself the highest level expert on?

I'd love to see you share your thoughts of Amac with him in person!

You must have failed really badly on a business venture to be this jealous of the success of someone you don't even know. 
You're pathetic.

I don't have any shares with him, never have. and the only time I communicated with him was by Text asking about Arson and he replied and said he was ready to come home after his operation and he died of a blood clot.

I watch all the videos and I think he get  bad rap.  He is doing a service by having people interested enough to buy small shares and I am sure they get an enjoyment out of it when they win.  You are not going to get rich and these people know what costs are.

I watched Uncle Danny win his 1st race and no way he should have paid that price winning that race,  He is or was one of his better 2yolds IHO.


They all got sick but I think that Super Mind will win later on there today. Super Mind has the same Grandfather on both sides of his pedigree in Andover Hall.  Like Alan Leavitt said, the way to go is inbreeding. Lot more speed as long as the genetics don't eff them up
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2025, 07:43:55 PM
Trigger, you ignorant prick.

Is there any subject or person, you don't consider yourself the highest level expert on?

I'd love to see you share your thoughts of Amac with him in person!

You must have failed really badly on a business venture to be this jealous of the success of someone you don't even know. 
You're pathetic.

 ngc3

Oh look who's back, it's the chihuahua cock!   ;D 
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Pacer 2 on July 31, 2025, 07:46:31 PM
Trigger, you ignorant prick.

Is there any subject or person, you don't consider yourself the highest level expert on?

I'd love to see you share your thoughts of Amac with him in person!

You must have failed really badly on a business venture to be this jealous of the success of someone you don't even know. 
You're pathetic.

       She is PATHETIC!!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: darnoldrocks on July 31, 2025, 07:47:38 PM
TimTim   .....   I have no shares with him, never have and never will, but I respect how he and his wife have planned and implemented this share model from scratch. 
All the Plop whiners and bitchers are just jealous.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2025, 07:51:36 PM
I spoke to AMac after a night of driving, I said in some races you had multiple "A" drivers sitting on the bench, why didn't you driver change yourself off?

He said, "it never crossed my mind".

If you read all my posts regarding AMac I speak of how well accomplished building a 8 figure business such as his is, but very poor judgement in allowing his own narcissistic behavior of needing to drive, not listening to the insane non-business related drivel in the videos he makes along with some of the pertinent shit.

That it's multiple red flags like this that has to concern his investors and the millions of dollars of money because it stains his credibility.

I think that is a fair, honest assessment!   ;D
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: darnoldrocks on July 31, 2025, 08:27:11 PM
"I spoke to AMac after a night of driving, I said in some races you had multiple "A" drivers sitting on the bench, why didn't you driver change yourself off?"

Let's assume you ever had that conversation.  To his face, you treated him with respect when asking your question, which by the way was none of your business if you don't own any part of the horse.  The men I know in this business, if some guy walked up, with no stake in their horse and questioned their tactics, at best you'd be told to fuck off and at worst you'd be picking up a few of your teeth.

"It's the many others that have paid $0 to win in stakes races because of AMACuntface's ego!"
Then when you get behind your keyboard, the real ignorant, gutless prick comes out. 
 
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2025, 08:33:57 PM
"I spoke to AMac after a night of driving, I said in some races you had multiple "A" drivers sitting on the bench, why didn't you driver change yourself off?"

Let's assume you ever had that conversation.  To his face, you treated him with respect when asking your question, which by the way was none of your business if you don't own any part of the horse.  The men I know in this business, if some guy walked up, with no stake in their horse and questioned their tactics, at best you'd be told to fuck off and at worst you'd be picking up a few of your teeth.

"It's the many others that have paid $0 to win in stakes races because of AMACuntface's ego!"
Then when you get behind your keyboard, the real ignorant, gutless prick comes out.

DEAR CHIHUAHUA COCK,

You come here and never risk a thing, never root a horse, put a wager out there nothing, yet you're calling the people that do losers.  A pride-less Canadian who is the daily news source about everything Trump and America, of course via copy and paste - BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT EVER!

It's a chat room we speak on the subjects we want to, I'm a gambler, I have  a non-tangible stake in this whole fucking industry and besides some friends of mine owned or have considered owning with him and other fractional - I'LL SAY WHAT I WANT AND TO WHOM I WANT ABOUT ANYTHING I WANT, AND YOU WON'T STOP ME!

 ;D
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: dougie on July 31, 2025, 09:35:00 PM
As someone who lost a shit ton of money (along with 2 other partners) with 4 cheap $4000 claimers at Pompano Park in the 80's, I kind of  wish these fractional ownerships and syndicates were popular then.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: darnoldrocks on July 31, 2025, 10:17:56 PM
besides some friends of mine owned or have considered owning with him and other fractional - I'LL SAY WHAT I WANT AND TO WHOM I WANT ABOUT ANYTHING I WANT, AND YOU WON'T STOP ME!

Tirgger, now you sound like a 6 year old having a temper tantrum. 
I think it's time for you to grab your blanky and go to bed.   
We'll talk again in the morning. 
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on July 31, 2025, 10:32:57 PM

Tirgger, now you sound like a 6 year old having a temper tantrum. 
I think it's time for you to grab your blanky and go to bed.   
We'll talk again in the morning.

Then a 6 yo challenged you to a debate, gave you every advantage to prove there is a scintilla of substance to you, that your more than simpleton insults and tactics, that your not OCD Trump, America, Laken Riley...of which you copy and paste, many times numerical data that is several years old...

Continue to ignore that 5 ton elephant in the room, in front of the entire forum.

From me and my blanky, goodnight chihuahua cock!   ;D
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: AgentQ on August 01, 2025, 03:16:08 PM
Anthony is testament that if you just leave and sit, every now and then you will win by default. The Stable is a for profit org, for him. 99% of people who invest lose everything and those that are naive or okay will continue to buy into his nonsense. He's not a good horseman and he's certainly not a good manager. As for driving, he's a B track bum.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: darnoldrocks on August 01, 2025, 04:22:20 PM
" he's certainly not a good manager "

How are you measuring his management skills?
He has 100's of investors, dozens of horses, operating out of multiple barns with multiple assistant trainers and he is making profit.
Sounds like a pretty successful Manager to me.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: brownmoose13 on August 01, 2025, 06:10:28 PM
" he's certainly not a good manager "

How are you measuring his management skills?
He has 100's of investors, dozens of horses, operating out of multiple barns with multiple assistant trainers and he is making profit.
Sounds like a pretty successful Manager to me.

Please define "he" as somehow I think my definition and yours are slightly different.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: brownmoose13 on August 01, 2025, 06:15:38 PM
How many times are people going to buy into his deals when his buddy Palermo has a trotter that is finished so he gets Amac to buy them at an inflated price and only Palermo and Amac make money. Look up Nasa as this is at least the 3rd loser that the 2 have pulled the wool over peoples eyes but the sheep keep coming.
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Checked Up on August 01, 2025, 08:47:53 PM
It would be interesting to see the profit and loss sheet from one of the partners who owned a piece of a 100k winner or more!!....that's for sure!!
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Chessington on August 01, 2025, 08:56:32 PM
I spoke to AMac after a night of driving, I said in some races you had multiple "A" drivers sitting on the bench, why didn't you driver change yourself off?

He said, "it never crossed my mind".

If you read all my posts regarding AMac I speak of how well accomplished building a 8 figure business such as his is, but very poor judgement in allowing his own narcissistic behavior of needing to drive, not listening to the insane non-business related drivel in the videos he makes along with some of the pertinent shit.

That it's multiple red flags like this that has to concern his investors and the millions of dollars of money because it stains his credibility.

I think that is a fair, honest assessment!   

You’re  a lying sack of shit. You never have spoken to Anthony!
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on August 01, 2025, 09:23:53 PM

You’re  a lying sack of shit. You never have spoken to Anthony!

Instead of simply saying, can you verify it, can you prove it, you, an absolute nobody, total zero, a guy who gets his AMac information from your friends 3rd fucking hand and that's reading your pathetic posts....decides to be a coward.

AMac is an OCD, he can't help but return a message you fuckface.

And unlike you, a tiny turd, behind a keyboard, I bet and win more in a race than your lowlife scumbag fractional owner friends spend in a year with him.

You could of simply asked nicely, but instead your a tough guy, let's find out how tough!   ;D
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Brown jug on August 01, 2025, 10:30:14 PM
hat nasa buy really stinks
owners should be calling him out on that one
and he says in a video, hey nothing nefarious here, sure its a friends horse and i didnt buy him at auction but then he convinced me and i let all you suckers buy into him
horse was not even close in nw2 at mohawk  before sale
since sale has not made a dollar n 3 starts for amac
Title: Re: AMAC
Post by: Trigger on August 01, 2025, 10:34:28 PM
hat nasa buy really stinks
owners should be calling him out on that one
and he says in a video, hey nothing nefarious here, sure its a friends horse and i didnt buy him at auction but then he convinced me and i let all you suckers buy into him
horse was not even close in nw2 at mohawk  before sale
since sale has not made a dollar n 3 starts for amac

Complain, they're mini micro investor schmucks.

You have more in your wallet than they'll put up in a lifetime...they "invest" the change between your cushions.

You can make more money with a cardboard sign under a bridge...probably have more fun too lol! 

Fucking losers that bow to an AMacasshole.

I'm an owner!  Blah ha ha ha  ngc3
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