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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 02, 2025, 11:52:05 AM
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Direct from multiple sources who I asked to contact the President of the USTA. First response they got was Russell is handling issues at home. Which I do empathize with him, it can't be easy. HOWEVER, with all that is going on then maybe it's time he step aside and allow someone else to do what would be inevitable even if it's him in the top seat. Once you assume that role and take the responsibility of leading the association, in times like this there is no excuse. I appreciate him being so open, but it's also frightening. If you're the leader....LEAD.
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People aren't in the mood to wait.
https://www.youtube.com/live/OTb3gn2dnCk?si=B9aqcioVC6Wr4TOl
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Hanover has been a bursting sack of shit since Dr. J left. Nobody has oversight of the vapid office morons who illegally bred a horse on my stallion share. Maybe they are taking kickbacks to forge breeding contracts etc...
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Hanover has been a bursting sack of shit since Dr. J left. Nobody has oversight of the vapid office morons who illegally bred a horse on my stallion share. Maybe they are taking kickbacks to forge breeding contracts etc...
Really? Now isn't Russell Williams heading the charge against Diamond Creek??? Pot calling kettle black?? Send me a message if you want.
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Adam Bowen is the classiest gentleman I have met in harness racing. I visited Diamond Creek and it was made obvious to me that they have a true passion for racing. The people in their community love them.
Diamond Creek did not act like “hoytie toytie snooty snobbersons.” That title is reserved for filthy cockroach Hanover.
Mr Bowen and Diamond Creek are the greatest and most honest breeder currently in horse racing, since the incomparable Alan Leavitt passed on.
Hanover should not throw stones if they live in a glass house. Their pig is definitely not flying straight. It would be ironic if the USTA President had to rescind a mating certificate from his own operation.The people who own the resulting foal probably have 120k in that horse who is getting ready to race.
It was a blatant rip off in black and white on many levels. I don’t really want to fuck over the people who own the colt. Even more interesting is that Hanover’s own Sales Company sold the foal. Doesn’t a yearling catalog page need to denote if a horse has been bred on Frozen Semen? It was not on the catalog page.
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Honest? ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 Check the fines and suspensions involving their dealings with Surick and his mommy.
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Harness Racer,
I respect you. You are one of the good guys…unfortunately Hanover is one the bad ones. During Covid I called to inquire about an older trotting stallion. I talked to the Assistant Syndicate Manager at the time who had been there 15 years. I was told the “stallion was in great health and I can share in European royalties.” In reality the horse had been suffering from Ataxia for five years. Hanover failed to mention that to me but was happy to grab my money for the share at sale. Hanover knew the horse was done. Two months later I was told the stallion was retired because he was unsafe to breed. Then I was given frozen straws. When I tried to claw back some money by brokering the straws, Hanover refused to acknowledge I was shareholder, and then illegally bred a horse on my share. They illegally bred the horse for a person they did regular business with who signed an airtight contract with me. That lowlife turd plays games by switching llc names every month to try and erase her trail of deceit and to avoid bill collectors.
Sound like great people to you bro? Sounds like possible fraud, possible interstate fraud, possible sales fraud, possible forgery, possible COLLUSION TO DEFRAUD across INTERSTATE LINES, and then to the sales company, Consigner fraud, etc…to me. Lexington kicked the colt out of their sale because they knew something was “Rotten in the State of Denmark.”
How can Mr. Williams serve as the President of the USTA and as one of the most powerful farms in history? Isn’t that CONFLICT OF INTEREST which could result in possible UNDUE INFLUENCE and possible COERCION of officials to levy unsubstantiated fines and suspensions against competitors using possible falsified data from blood testing.
After all, if Hanover couldn’t handle me as a hobby breeder and egregiously cheated me, what do you think they would cook up to kill off superior breeders. Sounds like FUCKING COWARDS to me.
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Michael is this the same Russell Williams that you lied about saying you spoke with him?……….He told me he wouldn’t take your calls…….. He was such a nice man….. I have no idea why you would lie about talking to him when you didn’t……….?
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Harness Racer,
I respect you. You are one of the good guys…unfortunately Hanover is one the bad ones. During Covid I called to inquire about an older trotting stallion. I talked to the Assistant Syndicate Manager at the time who had been there 15 years. I was told the “stallion was in great health and I can share in European royalties.” In reality the horse had been suffering from Ataxia for five years. Hanover failed to mention that to me but was happy to grab my money for the share at sale. Hanover knew the horse was done. Two months later I was told the stallion was retired because he was unsafe to breed. Then I was given frozen straws. When I tried to claw back some money by brokering the straws, Hanover refused to acknowledge I was shareholder, and then illegally bred a horse on my share. They illegally bred the horse for a person they did regular business with who signed an airtight contract with me. That lowlife turd plays games by switching llc names every month to try and erase her trail of deceit and to avoid bill collectors.
Sound like great people to you bro? Sounds like possible fraud, possible interstate fraud, possible sales fraud, possible forgery, possible COLLUSION TO DEFRAUD across INTERSTATE LINES, and then to the sales company, Consigner fraud, etc…to me. Lexington kicked the colt out of their sale because they knew something was “Rotten in the State of Denmark.”
How can Mr. Williams serve as the President of the USTA and as one of the most powerful farms in history? Isn’t that CONFLICT OF INTEREST which could result in possible UNDUE INFLUENCE and possible COERCION of officials to levy unsubstantiated fines and suspensions against competitors using possible falsified data from blood testing.
After all, if Hanover couldn’t handle me as a hobby breeder and egregiously cheated me, what do you think they would cook up to kill off superior breeders. Sounds like FUCKING COWARDS to me.
In NYS a trustee of the NYS Horse Breeders Development Fund who owns one of the larger breeding farms in NYS told a gentleman who owns a smaller farm here in Orange County when he was questioned by this man that he should consider selling most of his mares and will be losing most of his stallion breedings in 2026. This man is part of the three man committee who controls the allocation of state money that supports the breeding industry and sire stakes program in the state. Sound familiar???
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we don’t understand why you lied to everybody……. saying that you spoke to Russell Williams when you didn’t…….. could you explain that? He told me he wouldn’t take your calls and doesn’t read your emails.
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Harness Racer,
I respect you. You are one of the good guys…unfortunately Hanover is one the bad ones. During Covid I called to inquire about an older trotting stallion. I talked to the Assistant Syndicate Manager at the time who had been there 15 years. I was told the “stallion was in great health and I can share in European royalties.” In reality the horse had been suffering from Ataxia for five years. Hanover failed to mention that to me but was happy to grab my money for the share at sale. Hanover knew the horse was done. Two months later I was told the stallion was retired because he was unsafe to breed. Then I was given frozen straws. When I tried to claw back some money by brokering the straws, Hanover refused to acknowledge I was shareholder, and then illegally bred a horse on my share. They illegally bred the horse for a person they did regular business with who signed an airtight contract with me. That lowlife turd plays games by switching llc names every month to try and erase her trail of deceit and to avoid bill collectors.
Sound like great people to you bro? Sounds like possible fraud, possible interstate fraud, possible sales fraud, possible forgery, possible COLLUSION TO DEFRAUD across INTERSTATE LINES, and then to the sales company, Consigner fraud, etc…to me. Lexington kicked the colt out of their sale because they knew something was “Rotten in the State of Denmark.”
How can Mr. Williams serve as the President of the USTA and as one of the most powerful farms in history? Isn’t that CONFLICT OF INTEREST which could result in possible UNDUE INFLUENCE and possible COERCION of officials to levy unsubstantiated fines and suspensions against competitors using possible falsified data from blood testing.
After all, if Hanover couldn’t handle me as a hobby breeder and egregiously cheated me, what do you think they would cook up to kill off superior breeders. Sounds like FUCKING COWARDS to me.
I’d be pissed too, if that happened to me. And I, in no way, support Hanover. But that doesn’t excuse Diamond Creek scumbags for that shady stuff with Surick, his mother and partners. Of course they are polite and treat people well. Hard to be suspicious of people like that. They were 100% wrong in this instance. No argument can be made otherwise. I think most breeding operations and sales companies are sneaky and don’t care about giving people the shaft!
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I respect your opinion Harness Racer. Peace and good fortune to you.
The owners of the colt are in the catbird seat. If they don't want the horse, I'll take it and Hanover will have no choice due to the layers of fraud to give the ripped off owners the 120K they got in the colt now plus 2 or 3 hundo grando in a quick settlement.
Hanover illegally bred and illegally sold the horse. Hilariously, they bred the horse on frozen semen and didn't list in the catalog as frozen semen. I wonder how often they do that with embryo transfers too.
For the super sleuths out there, can you figure out the name of the colt illegally bred and sold by Hanover?? The first correct answer will get a cash app from me for $100.
Hint: Ataxia in stallion
Hint: 2yo getting ready to qualify
Hint: Read my contributions to thread and their is a huge hint which will give someone the answer quick
First correct answer wins!!
Once again, I will leave the owners alone if that is their wish. Otherwise someone better pull out their fat wallet.
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I respect your opinion Harness Racer. Peace and good fortune to you.
The owners of the colt are in the catbird seat. If they don't want the horse, I'll take it and Hanover will have no choice due to the layers of fraud to give the ripped off owners the 120K they got in the colt now plus 2 or 3 hundo grando in a quick settlement.
Hanover illegally bred and illegally sold the horse. Hilariously, they bred the horse on frozen semen and didn't list in the catalog as frozen semen. I wonder how often they do that with embryo transfers too.
For the super sleuths out there, can you figure out the name of the colt illegally bred and sold by Hanover?? The first correct answer will get a cash app from me for $100.
Hint: Ataxia in stallion
Hint: 2yo getting ready to qualify
Hint: Read my contributions to thread and their is a huge hint which will give someone the answer quick
First correct answer wins!!
Once again, I will leave the owners alone if that is their wish. Otherwise someone better pull out their fat wallet.
Guessing Cantab Hall is the site?
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That's the stallion but we need the name of the colt to win the money. There is one line in what I wrote that will narrow the choices to about 5. I'm raising the the pot to $250.
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That's the stallion but we need the name of the colt to win the money. There is one line in what I wrote that will narrow the choices to about 5. I'm raising the the pot to $250.
Dublins Zariah only Cantab colt sold at Harrisburg. Too easy keep your money.
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Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!!
I'm happy to pay you if you want. Just pm your cash app handle or PayPal.
You are definitely The Answer. Good job my man.
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Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!!!!
I'm happy to pay you if you want. Just pm your cash app handle or PayPal.
You are definitely The Answer. Good job my man.
My PayPal is: RWilliams@hanover.com 😃
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Who hurt you??
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I just sent $250 to the Standardbred Retirement Foundation in honor of The Answer.
Date
June 4, 2025
Transaction ID
0KM233222F1559008
Purpose
Donation to
Standardbred Retirement Foundation
Donation from
Donation amount
$255.58 USD
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I just sent $250 to the Standardbred Retirement Foundation in honor of The Answer.
Date
June 4, 2025
Transaction ID
0KM233222F1559008
Purpose
Donation to
Standardbred Retirement Foundation
Donation from
Donation amount
$255.58 USD
You’re a standup guy. Great choice!!👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
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I just sent $250 to the Standardbred Retirement Foundation in honor of The Answer.
Date
June 4, 2025
Transaction ID
0KM233222F1559008
Purpose
Donation to
Standardbred Retirement Foundation
Donation from
Donation amount
$255.58 USD
Nice gesture! ngc3
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Thanks Harness Racer tmbz1
Why don't you match it or up the ante?
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Albatross is right. How can RW doing both jobs not be a conflict of interest?
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Direct from multiple sources who I asked to contact the President of the USTA. First response they got was Russell is handling issues at home. Which I do empathize with him, it can't be easy. HOWEVER, with all that is going on then maybe it's time he step aside and allow someone else to do what would be inevitable even if it's him in the top seat. Once you assume that role and take the responsibility of leading the association, in times like this there is no excuse. I appreciate him being so open, but it's also frightening. If you're the leader....LEAD.
Why would you talk behind a man's back because he won't take your phone calls? Why would you even bring his family into this?.......... I spoke for a while with this man he's very articulate and smart.........he wouldn't say anything negative about you like you're saying about him........... all he said to me was he won't take your phone calls or emails.......... He doesn't come on website exposing your family businesses....... why would you do it to him? If your fellow friends had half a brain they would see right through you........ Just go on record Mr. Williams told me I could call or email him anytime....... I will definitely email this post to him....... you have no right meandering into his business at home......
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I'm sure he'll appreciate the picture....... I'll make sure I include that in the email......