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Title: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: I’mwatching on May 31, 2025, 09:11:33 AM
Horses racing at Shenandoah under this name
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 31, 2025, 09:57:45 AM
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Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on May 31, 2025, 10:03:23 AM
Complete bullshit
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Birdfantammy on May 31, 2025, 10:40:20 AM
FIgured it was Wagner.  But how the fuck is this allowed if she has been suspended indefinitely??  Shenandoah allowing these horses to run?   

Won't touch Shenandoah or Rosecroft ever again.  Two corrupt bullshit tracks
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 31, 2025, 10:41:45 AM
And who approved the membership for Lucky LillyBelle stable. The good ole USTA!

And granted a license for the same to race in that state...Good ole state racing commissions!

And what track accepted entries..Good ole Shenandoah Downs and Rosecroft Raceway! (Judges)

All damn well knowing it was fraudulent!

Shows The chain of corruption in our sport.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 31, 2025, 10:44:32 AM
FIgured it was Wagner.  But how the fuck is this allowed if she has been suspended indefinitely??  Shenandoah allowing these horses to run?   

Won't touch Shenandoah or Rosecroft ever again.  Two corrupt bullshit tracks

She wasn't suspended at the time of the change
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 31, 2025, 10:53:52 AM
Here's a question.

Couldn't there be some kind of class action lawsuit be started against the Wagners by the horseman for the purse money won by Luck LillyBelle Stables for the stakes money they stole from Virginia horsemen and Maryland horsemen who raced in those races?
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Way to go on May 31, 2025, 11:01:45 AM
Connie Jenkins of Culpepper, Virginia, never owned a horse or never a member before 1/25
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 31, 2025, 11:04:53 AM
The cheaters are getting caught and weeded out!    tmbz1 tmbz1
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harnessfan902 on May 31, 2025, 11:05:59 AM
Hopefully this gets sent to Maryland and Virginia
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on May 31, 2025, 11:25:01 AM
The cheaters are getting caught and weeded out!    tmbz1 tmbz1

Thanks to SCM and SCM alone!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 31, 2025, 11:33:37 AM
Thanks to SCM and SCM alone!   tmbz1

No. Actually it's people starting to work together. I'm just stupid enough to put the proof out here. What's funny is how people say I am revenge driven. Well, they did create me, right? Like how many other afraid to speak up? I was just a jackass with three horses and got tossed. For NOTHING. I hurt their egos. Now it's fun watching them squirm. What leverage do they have on me? Gonna sue me? Go ahead. Gonne toss me from the game? That ship has sunk. Gonna bring up my personal life and family? Keep poking in the same spot and we become numb to it. All I can say is whoever is calling, emailing, screaming....DON'T STOP.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: I’mwatching on May 31, 2025, 11:37:21 AM
She wasn't suspended at the time of the change

Her entries were accepted at Shenandoah for races today under the Braden/mcclanahan stable
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Yonkers1A on May 31, 2025, 11:41:53 AM
How deep is the corruption, it’s out of control
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Birdfantammy on May 31, 2025, 11:47:21 AM
And who approved the membership for Lucky LillyBelle stable. The good ole USTA!

And granted a license for the same to race in that state...Good ole state racing commissions!

And what track accepted entries..Good ole Shenandoah Downs and Rosecroft Raceway! (Judges)

All damn well knowing it was fraudulent!


EXACTLY!    TOTAL BS!  Both tracks are in on the corruption which is disgusting.  People should AVOID both of these tracks. Hopefully they won't survive.  Both need to go away for good.

Shows The chain of corruption in our sport.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Birdfantammy on May 31, 2025, 11:50:06 AM
She wasn't suspended at the time of the change

Her entries were accepted at Shenandoah for races today under the Braden/mcclanahan stable

Shenandoah is in on the corruption.  It's so thick it's disgusting.  Hope Shenandoah is gone soon.  And Rosecroft.  Both were in on the corruption.  Can't tell me they don't know what's going on.  It's a total joke. 
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: horsebroke on May 31, 2025, 12:04:16 PM
The owner listed for the horses under Lucky Lilly Belle Stables is Connie Jenkins sister of Pamela Wagner and sister in law of John Wagner. We called Shendoah judges and told them. Judges let them race and so did Rosecroft. So all of us need to call the USTA and fill them in on this. The trainer Stacy Mcclanahan /Corey Braden baby momma is a paper trainer for Wagner. It's time this shit stops. Wagner dopes his horses gets caught and it's business as usual.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: SwankToliverA on May 31, 2025, 12:25:12 PM
The owner listed for the horses under Lucky Lilly Belle Stables is Connie Jenkins sister of Pamela Wagner and sister in law of John Wagner. We called Shendoah judges and told them. Judges let them race and so did Rosecroft. So all of us need to call the USTA and fill them in on this. The trainer Stacy Mcclanahan /Corey Braden baby momma is a paper trainer for Wagner. It's time this shit stops. Wagner dopes his horses gets caught and it's business as usual.


Sad part of it is, the USTA is well aware of this just like with others who do the same thing. They will just say they weren't aware.
But you are correct, that people need to start calling and emailing the USTA- the emails leave a paper trail.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on May 31, 2025, 12:29:56 PM
VHHA
c/o Debbie Warnick
P.O. Box 1603
Saluda Virginia 23149

Phone: 443-463-0917
E-mail Address: info@vhha.net
Fax: 804-655-6161


https://www.vhha.net/directors

Take a look at this list...you can't make this shit up!  Corruption at it's finest!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: I’mwatching on May 31, 2025, 12:32:40 PM
Who are the judges at Shenandoah? Certainly not the one known as “Peter” something from Rosecroft & Shenandoah? He ain’t too friendly!
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on May 31, 2025, 12:34:49 PM
Directors are Wagner's buddies and beards!
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 31, 2025, 12:37:11 PM
Wagner's buddy Corey Braden is a crook too!   He's currently suspended.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: I’mwatching on May 31, 2025, 12:39:03 PM
Directors are Wagner's buddies and beards!

The executive director - she races horses there. Wouldn’t that be a conflict of interest?
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: I’mwatching on May 31, 2025, 12:40:21 PM
Wagner's buddy Corey Braden is a crook too!   He's currently suspended.

But not for racing but for fighting
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on May 31, 2025, 12:45:57 PM
Race Office Phone: 540-459-4807
Race Office Fax: 540-459-4819
Horsemen’s Bookkeeper Phone: 540-459-4859
Judges: 540-459-5456
VHHA Representative: Debbie Warnick - 443-463-0917
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: bello on May 31, 2025, 12:49:18 PM
VHHA is the horsemens association. Not a regulating body. They have no authority. Of course they are made up of horsemen in their board.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 31, 2025, 12:56:35 PM
I'm weeping. Look at all of you, it's like a Hallmark movie ending. Working together and hugs.  ngc3
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 31, 2025, 02:16:55 PM
All of Stacy Mcclanahans horses scratched today!

 76za.dcg
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: jupiter on May 31, 2025, 02:25:04 PM
In the real world it's fraud, follow the money. It ends up in John Wagner's pockets.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on May 31, 2025, 02:26:21 PM
All of Stacy Mcclanahans horses scratched today!

 76za.dcg

 ngc3  ngc3  ngc3
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 31, 2025, 02:28:56 PM
See how easy that was? USTA actually did something right. Horsemen followed up not allowing the BS to happen.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 31, 2025, 02:42:23 PM
I see the fine never getting paid. He pulled in over a million since last July and I'm sure he has hidden that quite well. He'll just move on to another patsy who will run the operation on paper. He's got $$$ to hire a lawyer and they'll work on getting the fine reduced. Only way this hurts him is if he had to repay the purse money he stole. Thats the reason he said he's retiring because between selling and purses he's set himself up for the future racing scam.

Problem is he's running out of family!  73cv.2

jmo
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harper on May 31, 2025, 06:48:14 PM
All of Stacy Mcclanahans horses scratched today!

 76za.dcg
Stacy drove and trained one in the 13t( today and still has a bunch more in on Sunday.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: horsebroke on May 31, 2025, 07:04:03 PM
Brother Jim was Corey Brandon horse. It was transferred to baby momma as owner when Braden got suspended.  All horses that was listed as Lucky Lilly Belle Stable was scratched today at Shendoah.  There is more in for tomorrow so we'll see if they are scratched. Does anyone know if the trainer can get suspended for knowing that all those horses were Wagners and she knowingly went along with the scam.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Way to go on May 31, 2025, 07:13:13 PM
Hoping USTA takes all of WAGNER'S beards down.....FBI coming soon...knock...kn ock... ...knock
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 31, 2025, 07:15:40 PM
I'm sure she knew as well as Braden what was up. Just proving it is another thing. Bet it was all Corey and she just let herself get suckered into the scheme.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on May 31, 2025, 07:17:06 PM
She can absolutely be suspended for knowing. But nothing will happen she’s on the board.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Late to the Paddock on May 31, 2025, 07:27:38 PM
Here's a question.

Couldn't there be some kind of class action lawsuit be started against the Wagners by the horseman for the purse money won by Luck LillyBelle Stables for the stakes money they stole from Virginia horsemen and Maryland horsemen who raced in those races?

Probably, based on this case:

https://www.peta.org/media/news-releases/horse-race-bettor-settles-doping-racketeering-fraud-lawsuit/#:~:text=Newark%2C%20N.J.%20%E2%80%93%20As%20reported%20by,the%20blood%27s%20oxygen%2Dcarrying%20capacity.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: horsebroke on May 31, 2025, 08:10:43 PM
I hope so that the horsemen can bring a lawsuit. If my horse ran in the stakes races and I got beat by Wagner horse I would be at the lawyers office Monday morning.  I would sue Wagner,Pamela,Connie Jenkins,Rosecroft,Shenandoah downs,trainer,judges everyone on both boards. They all knew what Wagner was doing and they did nothing.How many positives did Wagner get and Maryland judges grouped all of his positives together? Why?
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on May 31, 2025, 09:15:58 PM
Everyone is finally seeing it now. If you know, you're just as guilty. If you benefit from what you know, it's criminal. Being complicit is just as bad as committing the crime. Now keep effing fighting. Every track.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: GETSOME on May 31, 2025, 09:45:01 PM
Brother Jim was Corey Brandon horse. It was transferred to baby momma as owner when Braden got suspended.  All horses that was listed as Lucky Lilly Belle Stable was scratched today at Shendoah.  There is more in for tomorrow so we'll see if they are scratched. Does anyone know if the trainer can get suspended for knowing that all those horses were Wagners and she knowingly went along with the scam.
...actions detrimental to the sport (accomplice)
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: GETSOME on May 31, 2025, 10:03:56 PM
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Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 31, 2025, 10:16:30 PM
Corey Braden was in on the scam
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Pacer 2 on May 31, 2025, 10:29:14 PM
Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables?     Lilly Belle of course
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on May 31, 2025, 11:11:59 PM
Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables?     Lilly Belle of course

Well, I think her luck ran out!

 73cv.2
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on June 01, 2025, 12:17:33 AM
Corey Braden was in on the scam

Karma caught with him in the form of a forehand and backhand bitch slap with a whip.   ngc3  Then he has to have his manly lady break up the most pathetic excuse for a fight I’ve ever seen with the little for that bitch slapped him.  Karmas a bitch!   ngc3  ngc3  ngc3
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Way to go on June 01, 2025, 05:38:38 AM
House of Cards crumbling.....or HUMPTY DUMPTY fell off the WALL
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Yonkers1A on June 01, 2025, 07:34:52 AM
Keep the heat on
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: darnoldrocks on June 01, 2025, 07:47:22 AM
There needs to be a Netflix series on this.
Start with the original charges and the folks that went to jail, then swing to a guy starting a one man revolution against cheaters and abusers and now, people calling and demanding commissions and tracks look at the information again, resulting in further suspensions. 
It can have one episode on all the efforts by these cheats to get horses into beards names, avoiding the full extent of the suspensions.

Netflix can garner the number of eyes to either destroy the industry or create real change. 
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: I’mwatching on June 01, 2025, 08:22:12 AM
Brother Jim was Corey Brandon horse. It was transferred to baby momma as owner when Braden got suspended.  All horses that was listed as Lucky Lilly Belle Stable was scratched today at Shendoah.  There is more in for tomorrow so we'll see if they are scratched. Does anyone know if the trainer can get suspended for knowing that all those horses were Wagners and she knowingly went along with the scam.
There was another trainer at Shenandoah who co owned with Pam Wagoner. When all this went down, the trainer changed ownership of horses to his name only & the horses are currently racing at Shenandoah.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on June 01, 2025, 08:46:02 AM
I’m not sure why this stuff isn’t turned over to the police or fbi.  It’s definitely a form of money laundering and fraud.  You are making money using someone else’s name.  That person is also guilty and someone is most likely guilty of tax evasion in some aspect.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 01, 2025, 09:00:50 AM
There was another trainer at Shenandoah who co owned with Pam Wagoner. When all this went down, the trainer changed ownership of horses to his name only & the horses are currently racing at Shenandoah.

Not to mention connections to another trainer from Monticello.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on June 01, 2025, 09:14:17 AM
Not to mention connections to another trainer from Monticello.


And Buffalo!   tmbz1
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 01, 2025, 09:17:45 AM


And Buffalo!   tmbz1

Wonder why little guys don't stand a chance.
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Pacer 2 on June 01, 2025, 01:35:24 PM
 
Well, I think her luck ran out!  73cv.2

 
  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Pacer 2 on June 01, 2025, 01:57:05 PM
Wonder why little guys don't stand a chance.
    Its not rocket science Mike. Even you might figure it out!    ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 01, 2025, 04:07:06 PM
    Its not rocket science Mike. Even you might figure it out!    ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Where's the presiding judge who was at Buffalo last week? Oh yeah, he found out.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness racer on June 01, 2025, 04:28:39 PM
What a dumb fuck that guy was.  Losing his job for HT?   ngc3  ngc3  ngc3
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: I’mwatching on June 01, 2025, 05:04:59 PM
What a dumb fuck that guy was.  Losing his job for HT?   ngc3  ngc3  ngc3

Zubkoff?
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Way to go on June 01, 2025, 05:15:49 PM
What happened
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 01, 2025, 05:35:54 PM
What happened??? Are you people that out of the fucking loop??? A presiding judge went down for making a call defending Howard Taylor. You're welcome. Again.
https://youtu.be/4oCjRr9Wmi8
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Way to go on June 01, 2025, 05:42:58 PM
I am not your enemy
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 01, 2025, 05:48:17 PM
He's so used to defending himself that he tell the difference anymore,
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 01, 2025, 05:51:27 PM
He's so used to defending himself that he tell the difference anymore,

Excuse me, who's the one here not hiding? I don't care either way who is on "my side" or not. Know who benefits from anything I accomplish?? You morons.  tmbz1
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 01, 2025, 05:54:03 PM
Excuse me, who's the one here not hiding? I don't care either way who is on "my side" or not. Know who benefits from anything I accomplish?? You morons.  tmbz1

So, what have you accomplish so far that affects me?
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Harness Racing Revolution on June 01, 2025, 05:55:19 PM
So, what have you accomplish so far that affects me?

Well since you're a troll hiding behind a screen. No idea. But now I will ask you the same thing, since you posted this two years ago....
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Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Calhoun on June 01, 2025, 06:05:36 PM
So, what have you accomplish so far that affects me?
His resume has a bit of a gap, doesn't it ngc3 ngc3

2003 to 2023.

Just a bit of a gap.  ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Who owns Lucky Lilly Belle Stables? USTA does not list it
Post by: Kirbys Ace on June 01, 2025, 06:08:20 PM
 ngc3

Because he had something to lose like us other cowards! Was keeping quiet just like everyone else!


 ngc3
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