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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: boscoman on November 15, 2023, 03:12:39 PM
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Race 6 1,450,600 in the super pool race 7 950,000 in the super pool
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good observation
classic example of pool manipulation
they are heavily rebated on a superfecta ticket--so they must think its worth it
the supers in both races 6 and 7 paid over $1k for $1 with a 3/5 and a 1/1 shot winning both races
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I thought pool manipulation also but they lost 380000 in the 6th and 240000 in the 7th
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I thought pool manipulation also but they lost 380000 in the 6th and 240000 in the 7th
what makes you think they lost?
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Handle of nearly 3 million for 7 races. Very impressive.
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Handle of nearly 3 million for 7 races. Very impressive.
the last two superfecta pools accounted for $2.3 million of it
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the last two superfecta pools accounted for $2.3 million of it
It all counts jerkoff
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It all counts jerkoff
who said it didnt? jerkoff
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who said it didnt? jerkoff
You did by minimalizing the accomplishment to 2 races. You're nothing but a piece of shit canuck that lives in a country where their money is only worth 74 cents to every USD. ngc3
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Check race 4 and 5 at the Meadows.
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You did by minimalizing the accomplishment to 2 races. You're nothing but a piece of shit canuck that lives in a country where their money is only worth 74 cents to every USD. ngc3
what makes you think i am from Canada?
what makes you think? ngc3
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I find these numbers hard to believe. I think you will see a correction in the numbers reported.
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A technical problem at one of the betting sites allowed players to bet these supers at a tiny fraction of the cost. The players tried to take advantage but didn’t cap very well.
I wonder if the site will take the loss or will they go after the players for the lost money.
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Ok the race that 1450000 was bet the track paid out 1087944 The race that 950000 was bet the track paid out 712515. One thing’s for sure, whoever made these bets lost alot of money
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Ok the race that 1450000 was bet the track paid out 1087944 The race that 950000 was bet the track paid out 712515. One thing’s for sure, whoever made these bets lost alot of money
They lost but didn’t put up the money so the betting site Fan Duel is responsible.
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FanDuel, the parent company of TVG, shut down one or more accounts on its horse racing wagering platform on Wednesday and has started an investigation into suspicious bets placed in a number of super-exotic pools earlier that afternoon, the company said in a prepared statement.
The statement said that FanDuel had identified “technical issues and potential fraud” in the accounts that were shut down. The accounts were used to bet millions of dollars into superfecta and super high five pools on Wednesday afternoon at both Thoroughbred and harness tracks. Several trifecta and exacta pools at some of the tracks may also have been affected, according to a review of historical wagering data.
“In cooperation with regulatory authorities, the company is undertaking a full review of this matter and will make public additional details at its conclusion,” the statement said.
According to officials with knowledge of the incidents, the bets seemed to originate from one account at TVG. At one track, the bets were made in $20 denominations using all the runners in each spot in the wager, and were therefore guaranteed to generate winning tickets.
All account holders at TVG and other account-wagering companies are required to provide detailed personal information to bet through the platforms, raising questions about how the bettor expected to escape notice.
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At Churchill Downs, management put a hold on a distribution of a super high five bet in the track’s fourth race on Wednesday after the wager attracted $750,000 in handle. In the third race, the super high five attracted slightly less than $2,000 in bets. As of late afternoon, Churchill officials were still contemplating whether to pay out the wager, according to Darren Rogers, Churchill’s vice president of communications.
The Churchill race had seven entrants, the minimum necessary for hosting a super high five under state regulations. The race was won by the third choice, followed by the favorite, followed by the fourth choice, followed by the second choice, and then filled out by the fifth choice. Two longshots finished sixth and last.
Rogers said that no other pool on the Churchill card had been affected in the same way as the fourth race.
Other tracks on Wednesday afternoon also had enormous handles in some of their pools, including Finger Lakes, where the fifth race superfecta attracted $395,298, or 15 times the handle of the superfecta in the preceding race. Two harness tracks, Monticello and the Meadows, also had suspiciously large superfecta pools in their mid-afternoon races, with two of the pools exceeding $1 million and the other topping $950,000.
The Finger Lakes superfecta in the fifth race paid $22.22 for a 10-cent wager. The seven-horse race was won by the favorite, followed by the second choice, third choice, and fifth choice.
The sixth race superfecta also had a high handle, at $113,564. That 10-cent superfecta paid $323.80 after it was won by a 38-1 shot, followed by a horse at 26-1, followed by a horse at 15-1, followed by the 9-2 second choice. The 1-4 favorite finished last.
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Would a technical issue not be their own fault? Sounds like they want to punish the player for their gaffe.
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Would a technical issue not be their own fault? Sounds like they want to punish the player for their gaffe.
It appears the technical issue is that they dont know who made the wagers, the account did not have detailed personal information on the customer.
it most certainly is TVGs fault, possibly allowing money laundering from an unknown source
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The Left hand bets huge amounts through accounts that will never pay up and the Right hand collects the winning bets paid out by FanDuel, while FanDuel is busy trying to track down the Left hand (who has disappeared.) Out and Out fraud; been done in various ways for years, but Draft Kings and Fan Duels are so horny to get big $$ that they have been slack on their due diligence. They might also have one or more on the inside approving the betting limits for the Left handers.
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The superfecta payoffs were crazy...but who is booking those bets...if u r putting million into pool...u better make 8 mill
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Gambling bring badvekement
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Based upon what I heard, FanDuel will make good. If it wasn't there fault, the track would make good. CAW gone awry, LOL.
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The superfecta payoffs were crazy...but who is booking those bets...if u r putting million into pool...u better make 8 mill
the payoffs were not crazy
they boxed the entire field-all-all-all-all-all
it was not pool manipulation as originally thought