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Title: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: LUCPARK on May 01, 2023, 01:30:57 PM
I POSTED THIS EARLY SO EVERYONE CAN POST THEIR PIC



IM GOING TAPIT TRICE TO WIN ,,

WITH 5 OTHERS IN ZACTAS

FORTE,EMPIRE ,,SAGE..KINGS BARNS,,CONFIDENCE GAME
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 01, 2023, 01:33:58 PM
IM GOING TAPIT TRICE TO WIN ,,

WITH 5 OTHERS IN ZACTAS

Thank Christ!, a timely thread started up in here that matters....may we all cash a big one, and for sure I'll be posting in here when I'm warm and fuzzy about some 4 legged 3 yo FREAK!   tmbz1   
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Post by: Yonkers1A on May 01, 2023, 01:45:38 PM
I POSTED THIS EARLY SO EVERYONE CAN POST THEIR PIC



IM GOING TAPIT TRICE TO WIN ,,

WITH 5 OTHERS IN ZACTAS

FORTE,EMPIRE ,,SAGE..KINGS BARNS,,CONFIDENCE GAME

Same here Luc, I’m a big fan of Tapits and distance.

Tapit Trice/ all exactor

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Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on May 01, 2023, 01:48:42 PM
I want The significant others picks, Jennifer. She can Cap with the best of them.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: LUCPARK on May 01, 2023, 01:53:24 PM
I want The significant others picks, Jennifer. She can Cap with the best of them.

ONE OF HER HORSES IS QUALIFING WEDS

SHES EXCITED
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Post by: ploptart on May 01, 2023, 02:14:55 PM
Forte, Tapit Thrice, and for whatever reason I like Practical Move.
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Post by: LUCPARK on May 01, 2023, 03:57:41 PM
Forte, Tapit Thrice, and for whatever reason I like Practical Move.

  PRACTICAL MOVE IS THE WISE GUY HORSE
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: The Thorn on May 01, 2023, 04:05:27 PM
  PRACTICAL MOVE IS THE WISE GUY HORSE

10 to 1 is a very generous morning line for him, thought he would be lower than that. 

Skinner is also very high imo at 20 to 1 .. Wouldn't surprise me if he was there at the finish
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Post by: Village Idiot on May 01, 2023, 10:15:33 PM
  PRACTICAL MOVE IS THE WISE GUY HORSE

I like Practical Joke too but I don't think I can bet him. He was drifting out bad last race and he's got to go another 1/8th of a mile, I just think he is limited on stamina to get the mile and a 1/4.
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Post by: Wawajones on May 01, 2023, 10:18:31 PM
I watched Tapit Trice’s last win.  He has a very big stride, takes a long time and a lot of room to get going.  I don’t see him doing well in a big field.  He could get jammed up or pushed wide in first turn, lose momentum and never get going in time for the win.

I like Verifying and Two Phils
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Post by: PucksnHorses on May 01, 2023, 10:18:52 PM
I like Mage, if you like Forte then you almost have to like Mage as well. He drew a good post as well.
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Post by: Jazzman on May 01, 2023, 10:42:32 PM
angel of empire made a huge move in his prep race my pick
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Post by: Mailbox Money on May 01, 2023, 11:24:45 PM
I'm going to side with Jazz and select the Angel Empire also. I like a constantly improving horse that progresses enough to get the job done without peaking to soon in the season. I play him 1-2 while running him down in supers with Tapit Twice for 3rd &4th! Good luck to all  tmbz1
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Post by: MikeAnt on May 02, 2023, 12:47:19 AM
Kings barns
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Post by: Harness racer on May 02, 2023, 05:55:07 AM
Not many liking Forte...he looks very good. 
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Post by: dinkadoo on May 02, 2023, 07:49:43 AM
I am a fractional owner of MAGE who drew the 8 post.....

I bet $20 on him in derby future pool #2 and got 80-1 on him.
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 02, 2023, 10:05:21 AM
I am a fractional owner of MAGE who drew the 8 post.....

I bet $20 on him in derby future pool #2 and got 80-1 on him.

That's a big deal Dink!  A very special GL to ya!   tmbz1
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Post by: dinkadoo on May 02, 2023, 07:52:38 PM
That's a big deal Dink!  A very special GL to ya!   tmbz1
this is a big weekend

I have one in Thursday at Churchill --- Allowance race
I have Mage in the Derby
and lastly one that is in at Indiana Downs ( trained by Brad Cox ) in a MSW also on Saturday.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: onabrake on May 02, 2023, 08:23:15 PM
this is a big weekend

I have one in Thursday at Churchill --- Allowance race
I have Mage in the Derby
and lastly one that is in at Indiana Downs ( trained by Brad Cox ) in a MSW also on Saturday.


The move Mage made in Florida Derby was outstanding and only one that a real racehorse can make. With that being said, his gate manners and lack of experience( 3 starts) are a real potential problem. The price will be right and I am using him for 3rd and 4th in tri's and supers. Good luck, sounds like you have an exciting few days later this week.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 02, 2023, 09:34:40 PM
this is a big weekend

I have one in Thursday at Churchill --- Allowance race
I have Mage in the Derby
and lastly one that is in at Indiana Downs ( trained by Brad Cox ) in a MSW also on Saturday.

That's the "Dink Triple Crown Pick 3", Run the Table and bring em' home BABY!!!   tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: goblue on May 03, 2023, 12:46:46 AM
#14 Angel of Empire is my top pick. He's made significant improvement in every start of his career. If he can take another step as big as the one he took going into the Arkansas Derby, he runs a 105-108 Beyer and wins this race. I love the outside post and hope he can break well and avoid being too far back.

#15 Forte is obviously a must-have on your tickets (no commentary necessary).

#6 Kingsbarns, despite all the disrespect he's getting, has an incredibly advantageous pace set-up. I think he'll be able to steal away up front and be there at the end.

Three long-shots I'll be playing underneath those three favorites:

#8 Mage - awful ride in the FL Derby, arguably ran a better race than Forte
#7 Reincarnate - has enough speed to sit just behind the pace, which projects to be moderate
#11 Disarm - great works, recent improvement, wise guy pick 

The SA Derby invaders #9 Skinner and #10 Practical Move are the wild cards for me in this race. I have decided to take a stand and fade them on my tickets. I much prefer #9 Skinner over #10 Practical Move with the added distance, but he has shown zero ability to avoid and/or overcome adversity in order to win.

Bets:
$25 WPS #14 = $75
$4 Ex 6,14,15/6,7,8,11,14,15 = $60
$2 Ex 7,8,11/6,7,8,11,14,15 = $30
$0.50 Trifecta Box 6,7,8,11,14,15 = $60
Total cost: $225

Best of luck!
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Mailbox Money on May 03, 2023, 03:18:08 AM
That's a big deal Dink!  A very special GL to ya!   tmbz1
Good luck to you and your group.I am sure that you will your probable earnings figured out based on share percentage and placing..If you don't mind sharing with us, what is your percentage and probable earnings? I thought long and hard about joining one of these groups. Always wondered how they are about costs prior to members receiving their pay outs.I decided that I am going to jump in next go-round. Lord knows that I spend more money on a whole lot worse things!
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: LUCPARK on May 03, 2023, 09:50:36 AM
GOOD LUCK DINK tmbz1
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Post by: dinkadoo on May 03, 2023, 11:24:49 AM
Good luck to you and your group.I am sure that you will your probable earnings figured out based on share percentage and placing..If you don't mind sharing with us, what is your percentage and probable earnings? I thought long and hard about joining one of these groups. Always wondered how they are about costs prior to members receiving their pay outs.I decided that I am going to jump in next go-round. Lord knows that I spend more money on a whole lot worse things!
So I first started out buying thru Micro share companies like MRH and Commonwealth. It's an all inclusive purchase that in addition to the purchase price, it will include everything. And for us who have owned horses outright, we know that vet bills alone can sink ya.  Do you make money --- maybe, but probably not. But the experience has been really great. I was in the harness game for about 15 years, and while there are similarities, also many differences. From these microshare companies I have gotten into two groups to own larger amounts.  If you are looking into jumping into the runners for $50-$100, you won't get rich but can have some fun.
I have a horse in Thursday at Churchill, allowance going for $146k. Trained by Steve Asmussen, will be ridden by Joel Rosario. he cost I think $275k as a yearling. Made a small bid last year to run in the Derby but bled in the Arkansas Derby. He was sent off to Coolmoore Farm in Lexington where he was treated in a hyperbaric Chamber for 10 days. He got the winter off after finding thru a standing MRI that he had bone bruising.        Now I tell the story because, obviously on a teacher salary in no way could I afford to be a big partner on this horse. All included and done it cost me $78 to buy a share... I have gotten back about $40. In a recent win, the money from the purse was used to refund the training account. I was never under the expectations to make any money at all -- just have some fun.     What a company like MRH provides is communication. Usually weekly updates and if stabled at the major tracks, often video of works and discussion with trainer, exercise rider, etc.   In his MSW win which was at Churchill Downs as a 2yo, there was a private box setup for us to purchase tickets at a reasonable fee, food, beverages and to meet other owners. On that day he won - and the group was invited to the winners circle.
My derby horse MAGE, is thru a company called Commonwealth. They also own a percntage of Country Grammer who after a tour in the Arab countries is the 5th most money earned ever in horse racing... I know those owners have made their money 4-5 times and the horse is in California training for his next start.
There are facebook pages for these companies and individual pages for horses ---

Just having fun  ! ! !    Three in this coming Thursday thru Saturday.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 04, 2023, 01:41:28 PM
this is a big weekend

I have one in Thursday at Churchill --- Allowance race
I have Mage in the Derby
and lastly one that is in at Indiana Downs ( trained by Brad Cox ) in a MSW also on Saturday.

Small enough field and still is a very tough sprint race today (CD 6th, 327pm), your horse, and at least four other bogeys in the 1,2,7, and the one that brings value is the 5. Any thoughts?   tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: goblue on May 04, 2023, 02:05:44 PM
Practical Move SCRATCHED from the Kentucky Derby
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Post by: Kirby's Ace on May 04, 2023, 02:11:13 PM
Forte-Kingsbarns-Angel of Empire. (Box)
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: comeonman on May 04, 2023, 02:13:06 PM
I know someone who says he is a fractional owner of all of the horses you say you are no
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Post by: comeonman on May 04, 2023, 02:15:56 PM
MD is
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Post by: Yonkers1A on May 04, 2023, 05:30:11 PM
After a review of the Thoro-Graph sheets Angel of Empire is now my number 1 pick, after a pair of 2’s I look for this horse to move forward big time
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 04, 2023, 06:55:33 PM
#10 Practical Move scratched = #21 Cyclone Mischief in (PP 10)
#19 Lord Miles scratched = #22 Mandarin Hero in (PP 19)

GL  tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 04, 2023, 09:27:44 PM
Kentucky Oaks / Kentucky Derby Double

3 7 10 / 1 9 14 15 17

Kentucky Oaks

Win 10 Flying Connection
EX & Tri Box 3 7 10
Sup box's 3 6 7 10, 3 7 8 10, 3 7 10 11, 3 7, 10, 12
_________________ _________

Kentucky Derby

Win 1 Hit Show, 9 Skinner, 17 Derma Sotogake
EX, Tri, Sup, HI5 Box 1 9 14 15 17

Total Bet:  Way Too Fucking Much!  ;D  VGL EV1  tmbz1
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Post by: goblue on May 04, 2023, 10:23:43 PM
Continuar SCRATCHED
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 04, 2023, 10:48:34 PM
Continuar SCRATCHED

This makes a big fucking difference, the 23 King Russell (now 20 PP) is a peaking monster, owner Brereton C Jones might as well be the King of Kentucky for however many decades!  This fucking horse is going to cost me at least $500 more now where as I did, by hopeful intuitiveness dismiss the 21 & 22 after a very  long look, but not this cocksucker. His granddam produced an Oaks winner, and his father was always nudging along in prep and triple crown races,  I'm so fucking fucked!   ;D
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Post by: WildWizard on May 04, 2023, 11:06:16 PM
Mandarin Hero.
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 04, 2023, 11:19:50 PM
Kentucky Oaks / Kentucky Derby Double

3 7 10 / 1 9 14 15 17

Kentucky Oaks

Win 10 Flying Connection
EX & Tri Box 3 7 10
Sup box's 3 6 7 10, 3 7 8 10, 3 7 10 11, 3 7, 10, 12
_________________ _________

Kentucky Derby

Win 1 Hit Show, 9 Skinner, 17 Derma Sotogake
EX, Tri, Sup, HI5 Box 1 9 14 15 17

Total Bet:  Way Too Fucking Much!  ;D  VGL EV1  tmbz1

And adding...

Kentucky Oaks / Kentucky Derby Double

3 7 10 / 23

Kentucky Derby

Win 23 King Russell
EX, Tri, Sup, Hi5 23 /  1 9 14 15 17 & 1 9 14 15 17 / 23

Costing me a small fortune to add, because of the Continuar scratch, the #23 is a must play, and I cannot even attempt to box the him in the tri, sup, Hi5 with others otherwise I would be in the stratosphere.  Need $2303 to break even!  Nothing short of a nightmare and an $841 add!!  ;D   
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 04, 2023, 11:26:36 PM
Mandarin Hero.

Everything points that he makes sense including an outstanding short career of wins and almost wins too, shipped in to Arcadia fantastic---- with exception ------of he was ridden hard the last 3/8 of a mile and he was beaten with the whip hard for the last 1/4 mile to get the last result which was amazing in the SAD, now 1/8 more and more weight.  Looking for those peaking, and who had as little urging as possible.

He wins, I'm out as much as $2303 (maybe I get saved in the Oaks), VGL though if he's your MONSTER!   tmbz1
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 04, 2023, 11:30:40 PM
And adding...

Kentucky Oaks / Kentucky Derby Double

3 7 10 / 23

Kentucky Derby

Win 23 King Russell
EX, Tri, Sup, Hi5 23 /  1 9 14 15 17 & 1 9 14 15 17 / 23

Costing me a small fortune to add, because of the Continuar scratch, the #23 is a must play, and I cannot even attempt to box the him in the tri, sup, Hi5 with others otherwise I would be in the stratosphere.  Need $2303 to break even!  Nothing short of a nightmare and an $841 add!!  ;D

Another add...(more like I forgot)

Kentucky Oaks Win 3 Gambling Girl

 tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 09:48:44 AM
I couldn't remember the last time I had a winner in the KYD, very bad sign, either Alzheimer's and or not something I've been good at, probably both, I just checked and it was Animal Kingdom who I singled, 2011 LMAO!   ;D

If you can't remember, go here:

https://www.horseracingnation.com/stakes/Kentucky_Derby#
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 10:13:03 AM
My Biggest KYD bust (and largest race bet bust ever) was with Nobiz Like Shobiz in 2007, I had to look it up, I remembered I lost $6K and had every conceivable bet, but I only remembered "music" and the trainer.

Barclay Tagg trained horse, owned by Elizabeth J. Valando, who after the horse broke his maiden in his first race, she was offered $17 MILLION DOLLARS by the UAE's Sheikh Mohammed, and SHE turned it down!

She's way bigger imbecile than me, I'm seeking historically Giacamo type prices, a life changing score, wtf was she thinking if that ain't it?  ;D

His history  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobiz_Like_Shobiz
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Post by: Wildwood on May 05, 2023, 10:47:55 AM
I like Angel of Empire, will be running late
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 10:58:57 AM
I like Angel of Empire, will be running late

Very nice pick, I used him too :).

I'm the biggest pussy at Horseplop apparently because for one I see a much more competitive race to the wire.  I'm further having to revise my bets today and ended up boxing 1 9 14 15 17 23.  With win bets only on the longest 1 15 17 23 for VALUE. 

Now we know what's nice about #9 Angel of Empire, but what is not nice, and what most horses lacking this race is PINBALL EXPERIENCE, of which the #1 Hit Show has the best of in being banged all over the place and still maintaining his drive FORWARD and HARD.  If ever a race to feel like a pinball - it is the Kentucky Derby, not just  likely to happen, but to whom, and how are they going to deal with it!

Only a nothing or three seconds separates all these horses on the PP's, they are young too.  Don't be shocked or shaken on any outcome, PINBALL WIZARDS!  73cv.2

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Post by: Harness racer on May 05, 2023, 11:33:48 AM
I predict if something were to happen to a horse between now and the derby, it will be cancelled.  I've never seen racing get this much media attention and it's all negative.
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Post by: dinkadoo on May 05, 2023, 11:38:58 AM
Be interested to see if there is an on track protest !?

At the Grand National, the premier steeplechase race in the world about a month ago, about a dozen protesters lined across the track and delayed the race about 20 minutes.
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 11:44:23 AM
I predict if something were to happen to a horse between now and the derby, it will be cancelled.  I've never seen racing get this much media attention and it's all negative.

No shit, all the AE's getting in lol!  Bad fucking mojo energy too!!  I wouldn't cry if they did cancel!!!

But cancel, never, CDI flagship, their media people will hit the press with other news....they make more money off this race, the card, the day than entire large tracks make in a season - and are publicly traded their stock and casinos would take a big HIT and who knows how for long.  I'm betting against, but I imagine a much more LARGER LEO presence than ever before, with normal chaos to over the top activist threats.

People are pissed, including US and OUR ANGER MATTERS!  If I lose the DERBY, that ANGER will Exponentially Compound!   ;D 
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Post by: The Thorn on May 05, 2023, 01:19:34 PM
SKINNER scratched ... Down to 19 now
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 01:27:17 PM
SKINNER scratched ... Down to 19 now

Oh thank GOD for you THORNY the bearer of AWESOME REAL NEWS, nothing but love - I'm getting a $1254 refund and back to now my original $1462 in asinine bets!  tmbz1

Life is GREAT!   ;D
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Post by: JOHN FRANK on May 05, 2023, 01:56:47 PM
I'M not bettin because I hate CHURCHILL and KARDASHIAN.
But I will give 2 horses at odds for SHOW BETS.

(1) The 12 horse,JUCE'S ROAD. The pony is 50-1. BRAD COX trained and the FRENCHIE GEROUX on the mount. COX frontwrapped the pony in last race thus his race no look good. I guarrentee those wraps off for DERBY. Throw that race out and 2 others that look bad because he ran on a sloppy off track. This horse shows he likes a fast track as per his past performances. Them wraps come off and you have to watch post parade to see,then bet. 

(2) The 11 horse,DISARM. This pony is 30-1. Assmussin trained. Favorite in LEXINGTON but did not try. Knew he only needed 3ed which he covered by 6 lengths to qualify for DERBY. Never use your pony up in race before DERBY. YOU go all out in the BIG RACE.

GOOD LUCK on whoever you BET. I'M hopin a RUSSIAN BALLLLOOON drops on the SHITHOLE tomorroww Go at your own RISK.
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 02:05:50 PM
I'M not bettin because I hate CHURCHILL and KARDASHIAN.
But I will give 2 horses at odds for SHOW BETS.

(1) The 12 horse,JUCE'S ROAD. The pony is 50-1. BRAD COX trained and the FRENCHIE GEROUX on the mount. COX frontwrapped the pony in last race thus his race no look good. I guarrentee those wraps off for DERBY. Throw that race out and 2 others that look bad because he ran on a sloppy off track. This horse shows he likes a fast track as per his past performances. Them wraps come off and you have to watch post parade to see,then bet. 

(2) The 11 horse,DISARM. This pony is 30-1. Assmussin trained. Favorite in LEXINGTON but did not try. Knew he only needed 3ed which he covered by 6 lengths to qualify for DERBY. Never use your pony up in race before DERBY. YOU go all out in the BIG RACE.

GOOD LUCK on whoever you BET. I'M hopin a RUSSIAN BALLLLOOON drops on the SHITHOLE tomorroww Go at your own RISK.

Can it be Chinese, or other too?   ;D  What about 99.... tmbz1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpu5a0Bl8eY
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 05:31:29 PM
Kentucky Oaks....20 minutes (@551pm) to post time, Race 11, CD....GL EV1!   tmbz1
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Post by: firhill on May 05, 2023, 05:50:23 PM
I tuned in so I guess I'll wager.....

WP on #13 Affirmative Lady.......just because it's Johnny V.
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 05:57:38 PM
Down $596, of the $1462 because #3GG couldn't get her skinny ass home!  Only the Derby, 7th at BigM tonight left for the weekend, Oh Fucking WELL!   ;D
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Post by: LUCPARK on May 05, 2023, 06:36:36 PM
Senator who’s your pick in the derby
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Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 05, 2023, 07:12:59 PM
Senator who’s your pick in the derby

ALL REVISED FROM PREVIOUS MENTION! 

1 14 15 17 23

$80 Win only on 1 17 23

All of the above boxed $10 ex, $2tri, $1sup, $1hi5  tmbz1

Getting a stiffy more and more for the 1 Hit Show, he can pinball with the best of them, and a slight chub for the 23 King Russell.  GL Boss!   tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: SeattleSlew on May 06, 2023, 05:11:13 AM
1) Forte 3-1: He is the class in this races with most wins in grade 1 races. Question is his coming out of pp15 which may cost him losing ground running from the outside on the first turn. Jockey Irad Ortiz (one of the best)
2) Tapid Trice 5-1- Jockey Luis Saez
3) Practical Move 10-1- Jockey Ramon Vasquez
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Post by: carl baldwin on May 06, 2023, 07:51:24 AM
I bet the 1 horse Hit Show to win/ place, I also bet him to win in the Wood Memorial but that didn't work out for me.
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Post by: LUCPARK on May 06, 2023, 09:48:13 AM
FORTE JUST GOT SCRATCHED
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Post by: HornbyDuke on May 06, 2023, 10:18:19 AM
Im using 8 (mage) wp and boxing 258.

Thanks for clarification john fronk! Guess if baffert was worried about shitstorm his horse reincarnate would be out. Odd scratch on other yakteen horse though.
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Post by: Calhoun on May 06, 2023, 11:16:29 AM
$100 win Hit Show
$100 win Mage
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Post by: Calhoun on May 06, 2023, 11:17:19 AM
Mandatory payout carryover at Turf Paradise

 $520,000 carryover.
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Post by: LUCPARK on May 06, 2023, 11:21:20 AM
heres my final plays

2000 win tapit trice

100 zactas
with 14.6 and 4

boxed..


see how it goes
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Post by: Calhoun on May 06, 2023, 11:28:29 AM
With Forte out, Irad Ortiz now rides no chance Cyclone Mischief bumping Rosario.  tmbz1

Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 11:36:19 AM
heres my final plays

2000 win tapit trice

100 zactas
with 14.6 and 4

boxed..


see how it goes

BIG BOSS BETS, WE PLEBES SALUTE YOU!!!  ;D

When and if Tapit Trice flies by mine....you got me rooting for ya and the rest of the bros here!  tmbz1

ALL REVISED ReReReREVISED FROM PREVIOUS MENTION....until the next scratch  73cv.2!

1 14 17 23

$80 Win only on 1 17 23

All of the above boxed $10 ex, $3tri, $1sup

$1 HI5 1 14 17 23 /  1 14 17 23 / 1 14 17 23 /  1 14 17 23 / ALL
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 11:54:33 AM
With the extra money left over from my Derby budget, scratches and rerererevisions.. ..

CD 4th - DD 55, P3 5/5/2 3 12
CD 5th - DD 5/ 2 3 12

GL EV!  tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 12:07:41 PM
With the extra money left over from my Derby budget, scratches and rerererevisions.. ..

CD 4th - DD 55, P3 5/5/2 3 12
CD 5th - DD 5/ 2 3 12

GL EV!  tmbz1

Nice way to start the day!!!  ;D
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 06, 2023, 12:26:13 PM
Since nobody has mentioned Confidence Game, I want him to win because I know three of the owners from my hometown of Aurora, Illinois.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Babinga on May 06, 2023, 12:30:10 PM
Two Phil's and it won't even be close. 
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: dinkadoo on May 06, 2023, 12:31:42 PM
this is a big weekend

I have one in Thursday at Churchill --- Allowance race
I have Mage in the Derby
and lastly one that is in at Indiana Downs ( trained by Brad Cox ) in a MSW also on Saturday.
Thursday 3rd at Churchill in $146k allowance

Winner at Indiana Downs in MSW, race 3.

Cmon Mage in the Derby 🐎
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 12:33:12 PM
Since nobody has mentioned Confidence Game, I want him to win because I know three of the owners from my hometown of Aurora, Illinois.

Roc, Yonkers1A mentioned herein, I think as separate thread (You?) on someone who knows the owner that bought him for $25k...I used him in an all at the end of a Hi5  73cv.2!

Bernie Madoff, he's Darth Vader to my plebe stormtrooper!  <3, and GL!   ;D

Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Bernie Madoff on May 06, 2023, 12:40:11 PM
I believe there are more than 25 owners, but it is still very exciting to own a small fraction of a Derby horse.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 12:40:30 PM
Nice way to start the day!!!  ;D

The ass fucking comes early, and as expected!   ngc3
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 12:42:39 PM
I believe there are more than 25 owners, but it is still very exciting to own a small fraction of a Derby horse.

Dink used what I spend on laundry to get his share of Mage, LOL!  A  dollar or a million and a dream!  GL to ALL!!!  tmbz1

At this point, since money doesn't seem to help, I might start sucking cock just for a DD lock, I have nice lips I think I'd have potential!   ;D
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: carl baldwin on May 06, 2023, 12:44:09 PM
Final picks
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bKzhMurFfrUf7Eab9
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 12:46:51 PM
Final picks
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bKzhMurFfrUf7Eab9

Nice work with Hit Show, me too.  GL to your 9th and 12th bets bro!   tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 01:07:15 PM
CD 6 - tri bx 2 3 12, sup 2 3 12 rep rep all but 6 (fuck Zozos!)   ;D
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 01:18:30 PM
CD 6 - tri bx 2 3 12, sup 2 3 12 rep rep all but 6 (fuck Zozos!)   ;D

I gave y'all the winner, I said leave out the 6 and include ev1 else, and he goes w2w, it's a system in itself!   ;D
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 01:44:31 PM
this is a big weekend

I have one in Thursday at Churchill --- Allowance race
I have Mage in the Derby
and lastly one that is in at Indiana Downs ( trained by Brad Cox ) in a MSW also on Saturday.

Way to go DINK!  Winner winner chicken steak dinner, next Mage to try to add the lobster and make it surf n' turf!!   ;D

Ind 3rd - #1 Classic Cut  76za.dcg hvc.1

Thanks bro for your share!!  hcx.1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: SAW on May 06, 2023, 01:49:42 PM
17 Derma Sotogake & 6 Kingsbarns $20 each across the board. $6.00 exacta Part Wheel 6,17 w/ 3,6,14,17,22 = $168.00

Good Luck To All.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 01:53:01 PM
17 Derma Sotogake & 6 Kingsbarns $20 each across the board. $6.00 exacta Part Wheel 6,17 w/ 3,6,14,17,22 = $168.00

Good Luck To All.

Nice babe, hopefully some bridge jumper money in the pool on TT to make those show bets look like exacta money if they come in and he don't!  VGL!

I'm with you on Godzilla too!   ;D
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 02:15:57 PM
*****If you have a gambling problem, of over love for the action eh or if someone has driven you nuts in life, you're self destructive - maybe fingered your ass as a toddler, consider taking them on a long trip and coming back alone  tmbz1.*****

Otherwise consider calling 1-800-GAMBLER, you're not a faggot or loser if you do!  That position is reserved for me solely as of late, well the burnout loser part 4sure...!!  ;D
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 03:10:49 PM
I hope y'all have all your bets in and partying, drinking beer and scotch, bev of choice, yum, and indulging in pizza and other snacks....I'm eating a salad and drinking ice water, I've become a gelded  64za.c!   ngc3
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 03:52:16 PM
What you are about to see is the greatest movie trailer of all time...forget the movie, a Godzilla story with an Over The Rainbow instrumental playing in the background! 

What they couldn't of known 5 years ago when it was made, is that Derma Sotogake, who I've been referring to as GODZILLA is racing against 17 adversaries today!  Watch the whole 2 min thing....but pay attention to at 17 seconds when they say "17 and counting!"  A foretold prediction for #17, who knows?!

Get fired up for your bets today and Enjoy!  VGL!   ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFxN2oDKk0E

Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 05:11:42 PM
As of 511pm EST WPS Pools Race 12

#    Horse Name    Win*    Place*    Show*
1    Hit Show    $864,408    $191,767    $221,026
2    Verifying    $1,359,516    $350,111    $342,424
3    Two Phil`s    $2,311,580    $582,456    $595,331
4    Confidence Game    $1,196,543    $286,568    $331,141
5    Tapit Trice    $3,906,224    $935,088    $890,981
6    Kingsbarns    $1,950,567    $438,964    $424,492
7    Reincarnate    $1,629,895    $360,467    $411,589
8    Mage    $1,233,700    $309,176    $295,775
9    Skinner    ---    ---    ---
10    Practical Move    ---    ---    ---
11    Disarm    $875,439    $213,758    $232,374
12    Jace`s Road    $724,905    $147,944    $189,191
13    Sun Thunder    $753,094    $151,813    $183,220
14    Angel of Empire    $3,969,941    $963,031    $868,648
15    Forte    ---    ---    ---
16    Raise Cain    $739,744    $149,137    $186,283
17    Derma Sotogake [JPN]    $2,505,922    $520,648    $497,557
18    Rocket Can    $797,535    $174,819    $205,042
19    Lord Miles    ---    ---    ---
20    Continuar [JPN]    ---    ---    ---
21    Cyclone Mischief    $760,250    $163,844    $196,589
22    Mandarin Hero [JPN]    $1,068,664    $258,397    $264,039
23    King Russell    $729,513    $149,037    $180,276
Total       $27,377,449    $6,347,032    $6,515,986
* Gross Amount
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: carl baldwin on May 06, 2023, 05:29:04 PM
The exacta pool for the Derby is usually 20mm.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 05:42:53 PM
As of 541pm EST, nice #'s and seeking to grow over the next 75 min.   tmbz1

Pool    Totals
WIN    $32,440,436
PLACE    $7,489,808
SHOW    $7,687,015
EXACTA    $13,833,415
DOUBLE    $101,938
TRIFECTA    $17,850,850
SUPERFECTA    $7,487,678
PICK THREE    $153,171
EXACT 5    $559,113
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Harness racer on May 06, 2023, 05:55:36 PM
i keyed #14 and #22 in several tickets.  If either wins I'll be in good shape.  If they run 1-2 I can't lose the triple.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 05:59:32 PM
i keyed #14 and #22 in several tickets.  If either wins I'll be in good shape.  If they run 1-2 I can't lose the triple.

Nice, GL, not many times we see 9/2 as a favorite or co-fav lol, why this race is special....And you got the other GODZILLA entry too!   tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 06:14:18 PM
18 runners and the highest win odds 31-1 odds, completely insane to any known past, and current reality!   ;D
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: gogasgoboom on May 06, 2023, 07:04:42 PM
MAGE !!!
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 07:06:04 PM
Big Congrats to DINK, owner herein!!!!

My betting Pal and backer of Mage, Pucks, you grabbed that OD DD too and whatever else!!!

And everyone who backed Mage, and made $$$$$$ GREAT JOB!!!!

 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1 hvc.1



Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Assassinator on May 06, 2023, 07:07:07 PM
Dink good for you....can't imagine how exciting that was but a big congrats to you
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: gogasgoboom on May 06, 2023, 07:18:36 PM
I am a fractional owner of MAGE who drew the 8 post.....

I bet $20 on him in derby future pool #2 and got 80-1 on him.

Big Congrats !
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 07:21:01 PM
Great Job Calhoun and Hornby Duke too!!!

YOU CALLED IT!  tmbz1


 76za.dcg 76za.dcg
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: dinkadoo on May 06, 2023, 07:31:00 PM
Dink good for you....can't imagine how exciting that was but a big congrats to you
Freaking amazing.
Thanks ploppers.

3rd on Thursday
Win in MSW
Win in n Derby
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: carl baldwin on May 06, 2023, 07:58:40 PM
Congrats Dink
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: PucksnHorses on May 06, 2023, 08:03:43 PM
Thank you Mage!! Yeah baby!!
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: LUCPARK on May 06, 2023, 08:40:37 PM
There was a 4000 donation made on behalf of lucpark today at Churchill

Luc. You pigeon

Your terrible at tbreds  tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 06, 2023, 08:51:49 PM
There was a 4000 donation made on behalf of lucpark today at Churchill

Luc. You pigeon

Your terrible at tbreds  tmbz1

Me too, about 40% of that for the week included!

You bet proportional to your comfort, $ability, but you put yourself out there, like a BOSS.

Have a great year, lots happening, more house of pain awesome to come!   tmbz1
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Calhoun on May 07, 2023, 12:10:52 PM
5 horses were within 2 lengths of the lead after a half mile:

Confidence Game - lost by 14 lengths
Reincarnate - lost by 24 lengths
Kingsbarns - lost by 25 lengths
Verifying - lost by 54 lengths

Of the above four, only one of them went off over 15/1. Pretty much mid-range Derby-odds types. 

The other was Two Phil's ... who lost by 1 length after taking bump, running between horses for a stretch and getting to the lead at the 1/8 pole.

He's the horse I want next out, especially if Rivelli puts up a real jockey.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: JOHN FRANK on May 07, 2023, 03:10:05 PM
Rivelli is loyal to his jockeys. This is over years. E.T. BAIRD use to be his main man. But E.T likes DRUGS and BOOZE alot plus he up in age know. He stays with LOVE since he his #1 for last 5 years.
Now more interisting is his win in GRADE !! race in 7th yesterday. Longest shot in big field at 5 and 1/2 on grass. Larry never been really caught for JUICING. That because he owned racin at ARLINGTON PARK. He had most horses and he had the 2 biggest owners. PATRICIA HOPE and CAROLYN WILSON both multi multi millioners. I did not see winners circle after 7th but I imagine every one a little surprized. And should be at 38-1. I'm gonna sit back and wait for test results. And RIV but togeather a group to buy ARLINGTON and CHURCHILL turned it down. Yet he been runnin alot at CHURHILL owned tracks. Since CHURCHILL had 2 more horse deaths on SATURDAY and that makes 7 in 7 days,I'M sure they will want to hide any overages. After all. They braggin the biggest day total handle in history.

One last thin. I'M gonna go and congradulate DINK. But did you not CALHOUN own some small % in some STAKE WINNERS and were mocked for it. CRAZY WORLD.
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Calhoun on May 09, 2023, 12:42:12 PM


But did you not CALHOUN own some small % in some STAKE WINNERS and were mocked for it. CRAZY WORLD.
Yes and I still do.  But people hate a winner. 
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 09, 2023, 12:44:35 PM
Yes and I still do.  But some people hate a winner.

B-, and congratulations!  GL! 
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Wawajones on May 09, 2023, 05:45:04 PM
That was the most sane JOHN FRANK post in 2 years
Title: Re: YOUR KENTUCKY DERBY PLAYS? PLS POST
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on May 09, 2023, 05:48:16 PM
That was the most sane JOHN FRANK post in 2 years

ALL 8390 are a dead heat!!!   ngc3
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