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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: MikeAnt on February 17, 2023, 01:06:02 AM
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Ok so we all know by now that potrelli doesn’t like mark ford because of marks success and longevity in harness racing. But stop and think about this. SCM has been a groom for how long? And now after getting thrown out of Goshen he just realized horses are being killed and drugged and he wants to rescue them? Really? Check around and you will hear the facts that mike not only was a good groom for a long time, but he participated in pre racing and hurting horses too. So just think about SCM’s timing in suddenly rescuing horses. It’s cause Ford threw him off the track and mike didn’t pay his bills. So now is a convenient time to tell the dirty little secrets he’s known for years because he can’t get a job anywhere in the business. Timing is everything folks and SCM has run out of friends just as he was run out of Goshen. So blast away at people who’ve done wrong not at the time they did wrong, but at the time when you want revenge. Mike your credibility is ZERO. Not because mark ford lied, it’s because you didn’t report any wrong doing until you got the cold shoulder and thrown out of Goshen. Mike, you know I’m right because you covered up for years before you busted out of the business and now you want revenge. By the way, we’ve all done shit wrong mike. Even yourself. But you have zero credibility because you allowed this shit to go on for years and now that you’re thrown out of Goshen, you suddenly want to report all of the wrongs. Get a life liar!
PS Jason wants nothing to do with you so don’t try and act like you guys are okay because both of the bartletts want nothing to do with you.
PSS watch out anyone who talks to this scumbag because he is recording you. He’s scared that someone is going to bust his face open so he records everyone everywhere. Mike is running scared so beware everyone because he is recording you.
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It's funny you speak of credibility Mike since you are the biggest hate monger on horseplop. Should we really listen to anything you have to say?
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Yes, his ramblings about SCM are getting old and boring!
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It's funny you speak of credibility Mike since you are the biggest hate monger on horseplop. Should we really listen to anything you have to say?
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I AGREE 100% WITH MIKE ANT ON THIS ONE. SHOPPING CART MIKE HAS A VENDETTA AGAINST A FEW PEOPLE IN NEW YORK WHO PUT HIM OUT OF RACING SO HE IS BRINGING UP ALL THE DIRT HE CAN ON THEM. WHY DIDNT HE DO IT WHEN HE WAS WORKING FOR THEM? THATS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION.
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i hope the fbi looks inti mikes videos and they naikl ford and many others
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I AGREE 100% WITH MIKE ANT ON THIS ONE. SHOPPING CART MIKE HAS A VENDETTA AGAINST A FEW PEOPLE IN NEW YORK WHO PUT HIM OUT OF RACING SO HE IS BRINGING UP ALL THE DIRT HE CAN ON THEM. WHY DIDNT HE DO IT WHEN HE WAS WORKING FOR THEM? THATS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION.
I agree he does have a vendetta against a few it appears and I have no dog in this fight as I don’t know either one of them but if what this guy is saying about Ford is true and he has proof then I would say it would have been a good idea not to piss him off lol.
Got to give him credit everyone bashing him saying he has no credibility he sure seems to have proof of what he’s saying and seems to be some validity as he has the attention of a the ones he’s naming as well as the USTA but more importantly whether his spewing is factual or not he has gotten the attention of people with much more power than USTA or racing commissions.
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Right on point, Mike!
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SCM, why is David Glasser still driving in GSY if all of your knowledge is correct and his harassing the guy in charge? Seems like he wouldn't be welcome. Please explain! tmbz1
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I agree he does have a vendetta against a few it appears and I have no dog in this fight as I don’t know either one of them but if what this guy is saying about Ford is true and he has proof then I would say it would have been a good idea not to piss him off lol.
Got to give him credit everyone bashing him saying he has no credibility he sure seems to have proof of what he’s saying and seems to be some validity as he has the attention of a the ones he’s naming as well as the USTA but more importantly whether his spewing is factual or not he has gotten the attention of people with much more power than USTA or racing commissions.
It was all of us posters on horseplop who made SCM famous. Nobody ever heard of him until we slapped him around this forum and made his name popular. The rest is history.
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It was all of us posters on horseplop who made SCM famous. Nobody ever heard of him until we slapped him around this forum and made his name popular. The rest is history.
I believe you on this so because of horseplop he has gotten the attention of many We all know many not involved in harness racing want the funding to stop. Horseplop may not care what he has to say but trust me the real powers to be are taking it all in. Again, I don’t know him and couldn’t care less either way but anyone who is outspoken with nothing to lose is dangerous for the sport. Lastly yes he does have a vendetta obviously and it’s snowballing as others who have vendettas are using him as their voice.
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😂😂😂 horsplop has been 🐀 people out for years. Even naming Names, if it’s the truth or made up. But I give some credit it’s been true mostly. So your blaming this guy for coming clean . I thought it’s what most people wanted on plop to Clean up the cheaters . I guess he hit a nerve by calling a lier a lier. Original Post agreed that MF lied . 1 guy is going to get credit for cleaning up Harness racing. It’s Not JG it’s Not MP , but it’s going to be Don tiger /Charlie May . He might not be the official winner. But will Win when it counts Most. To help Clean up Racing for once and For All . Long Live Harness Race. I guess long live Horse Plop 😂 with out it most people would have to Get A Life.
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I believe you on this so because of horseplop he has gotten the attention of many We all know many not involved in harness racing want the funding to stop. Horseplop may not care what he has to say but trust me the real powers to be are taking it all in. Again, I don’t know him and couldn’t care less either way but anyone who is outspoken with nothing to lose is dangerous for the sport. Lastly yes he does have a vendetta obviously and it’s snowballing as others who have vendettas are using him as their voice.
Dangerous for the sport ?? Yes if you want it to continue down the road it has been going ..
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😂😂😂 horsplop has been 🐀 people out for years. Even naming Names, if it’s the truth or made up. But I give some credit it’s been true mostly. So your blaming this guy for coming clean . I thought it’s what most people wanted on plop to Clean up the cheaters . I guess he hit a nerve by calling a lier a lier. Original Post agreed that MF lied . 1 guy is going to get credit for cleaning up Harness racing. It’s Not JG it’s Not MP , but it’s going to be Don tiger /Charlie May . He might not be the official winner. But will Win when it counts Most. To help Clean up Racing for once and For All . Long Live Harness Race. I guess long live Horse Plop 😂 with out it most people would have to Get A Life.
I’m not blaming him for coming clean I’m saying everyone say he should have no credibility when seems to me what he has said has been true. I don’t care one bit if he throws them all u see the bus good for him, this won’t effect my life one bit. Seems people rather bad mouth him than the scum bags who are cheating. It’s no wonder this business can’t stand on its own 2 feet thus the can has been opened for the casinos to see a clear path in getting rid of racing. Couple of the casino brass are loving Petrelli.
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I too hope all of these scumbags get what they have coming to them. But how long did SCM look the other way before he was told to hit the bricks in Goshen? SCM is a hypocrite! If he was that concerned, he would have been a whistler blower a long time ago. If he worked for and around all these abusers then he definitely knew something before now. How many could SCM have saved back then?
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At first I applauded SCM as I thought he was trying to help our Industry--how wrong I was.
SCM IMHO--is part of the problem in Harness racing--he is NOT working in its best interests.In fact its the opposite.
This abject failure in training a horse--now has found new fame by continuing in the path of many in the Industry to Just use hearsay-to get the most rise out of people. The juicier the better.ie he is a Hater especially to those he believes were the cause of his now shitty plight..
Instead of laying out facts-clear indisputable FACTs--ie would stand up in any Court of Law---no--- he just points a finger -he just lambasts people in the Industry-with "what he Heard" WTF!!!! " I spoke to someone" I got a phone call" etc etc
He is not short on material--because bust outs like him-(haters) -abound in the Industry---all with Chips on their shoulder--and anyone doing well--is a cheat--because hey " I'm great and I couldn't do it--so they must be juicers and cheaters"
Thank you SCM-for not posting any more owing to the fact that some ploppers have woken up to this phoney..
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At first I applauded SCM as I thought he was trying to help our Industry--how wrong I was.
SCM IMHO--is part of the problem in Harness racing--he is NOT working in its best interests.In fact its the opposite.
This abject failure in training a horse--now has found new fame by continuing in the path of many in the Industry to Just use hearsay-to get the most rise out of people. The juicier the better.ie he is a Hater especially to those he believes were the cause of his now shitty plight..
Instead of laying out facts-clear indisputable FACTs--ie would stand up in any Court of Law---no--- he just points a finger -he just lambasts people in the Industry-with "what he Heard" WTF!!!! " I spoke to someone" I got a phone call" etc etc
He is not short on material--because bust outs like him-(haters) -abound in the Industry---all with Chips on their shoulder--and anyone doing well--is a cheat--because hey " I'm great and I couldn't do it--so they must be juicers and cheaters"
Thank you SCM-for not posting any more owing to the fact that some ploppers have woken up to this phoney..
I can't spot anything that you said that was wrong. Using backstretch rumors and innuendo against people he hates with no idea if its true or not. Telling the breeder of World of Secrets that he died from bleeding out without actually knowing if that's what happened is beyond disturbing.
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At first I applauded SCM as I thought he was trying to help our Industry--how wrong I was.
SCM IMHO--is part of the problem in Harness racing--he is NOT working in its best interests.In fact its the opposite.
This abject failure in training a horse--now has found new fame by continuing in the path of many in the Industry to Just use hearsay-to get the most rise out of people. The juicier the better.ie he is a Hater especially to those he believes were the cause of his now shitty plight..
Instead of laying out facts-clear indisputable FACTs--ie would stand up in any Court of Law---no--- he just points a finger -he just lambasts people in the Industry-with "what he Heard" WTF!!!! " I spoke to someone" I got a phone call" etc etc
He is not short on material--because bust outs like him-(haters) -abound in the Industry---all with Chips on their shoulder--and anyone doing well--is a cheat--because hey " I'm great and I couldn't do it--so they must be juicers and cheaters"
Thank you SCM-for not posting any more owing to the fact that some ploppers have woken up to this phoney..
Horseplop made SCM famous and every time he posts on here he takes a bitch slap at every turn. He knows better than to try and post here.
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Just like the bitch you are. I post and you come running on every thread about me. Sorry, the answer is no. You are not worthy of my attention. Way out of your league. Stick with the mighty mites.
Get your ass of this forum pal before harness racer and other good posters bitch slap your old ass into the nursing home where you belong old man. Leave horseplop to the pros. You know what happened before when they busted you out and you took off with your tail between your legs don’t come back on plop if you know what’s good for you. These guys make you look like the fool that you are. Bye bye SCM
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Dangerous for the sport ?? Yes if you want it to continue down the road it has been going ..
I should have made myself more clear. Dangerous for the sport for those who are supposedly running it because for all those that rant that he’s has no credibility I’d have to disagree as he seem to have proof and invites the names he’s mentioning to come after him. That and I hear about his slanderous comments, the guy has a bullseye in his back therefore no way he is going to say this stuff without proof.
I guess I just don’t get how this forum is always about the scum that are cheating, using drugs etc. yet someone starts exposing people he gets railed on. Again I don’t care and actually never heard of him before recently but I can tell you the people who can take the money from this sport are loving and are listening and they believe he’s credible. Bottom line is he’s thrown out names now those have bigger fish looking into them.
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I should have made myself more clear. Dangerous for the sport for those who are supposedly running it because for all those that rant that he’s has no credibility I’d have to disagree as he seem to have proof and invites the names he’s mentioning to come after him. That and I hear about his slanderous comments, the guy has a bullseye in his back therefore no way he is going to say this stuff without proof.
I guess I just don’t get how this forum is always about the scum that are cheating, using drugs etc. yet someone starts exposing people he gets railed on. Again I don’t care and actually never heard of him before recently but I can tell you the people who can take the money from this sport are loving and are listening and they believe he’s credible. Bottom line is he’s thrown out names now those have bigger fish looking into them.
Why didn’t he do it when he was an active groom in the business? Because he is just as bad as the people he is busting out. Why don’t you address the timing of SCM talking now that he is thrown out of Goshen?
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God forbid I defend the guy. But, he actually doesn’t run from the fact it all started with the Goshen. So that line of questioning is a waste of time.
Just so you know…..I’ve been blocked from his Facebook pages for calling him out a couple times.
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Hard to say what the actual facts. I'm sure there are some facts here, but I'm sure they are slanted to fit SCM's agenda. Someone with an axe to grind usually distorts the facts a little, whether intentional or not. He has it out for Jones and Ford, so can he be objective? I doubt it. Is Jones at all to blame for this horse? Probably. But why the free pass to Fannin? I'm sure some blame should be given to him also. This is why people question his credibility. He claims he never abused/killed a horse during his training days. This may be true, who knows. But you can't tell me he never witnessed it happen. Why did he keep quiet then? And why does he refuse to address this. People can change I guess, but don't act like you didn't look the other way for a long time. You bust out and get tossed from Goshen and now all of a sudden you are the world biggest crusader for horses. Seems a little suspect SCM and you just keep deflecting and blaming others for things. They are 100% guilty and pieces of shit if what you say is true...but you are guilty too if you let others slide for years until just recently.
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Hard to say what the actual facts. I'm sure there are some facts here, but I'm sure they are slanted to fit SCM's agenda. Someone with an axe to grind usually distorts the facts a little, whether intentional or not. He has it out for Jones and Ford, so can he be objective? I doubt it. Is Jones at all to blame for this horse? Probably. But why the free pass to Fannin? I'm sure some blame should be given to him also. This is why people question his credibility. He claims he never abused/killed a horse during his training days. This may be true, who knows. But you can't tell me he never witnessed it happen. Why did he keep quiet then? And why does he refuse to address this. People can change I guess, but don't act like you didn't look the other way for a long time. You bust out and get tossed from Goshen and now all of a sudden you are the world biggest crusader for horses. Seems a little suspect SCM and you just keep deflecting and blaming others for things. They are 100% guilty and pieces of shit if what you say is true...but you are guilty too if you let others slide for years until just recently.
Amen harness racer. Thank you thank you thank you! SCM was a groom for 30 years and watched these cheats abuse and torture animals and turned a blind eye......... until he got thrown out of Goshen. Then he suddenly found his conscience. SCM is an accomplice to all of this bullshit and he knows it. And by the way, don’t expect for SCM to address why he waited 30 years to speak up. The problem SCM now has is nobody wants to even talk to him because he is recording everyone for fear of getting his ass beat.
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I'm not sure he's scared of getting his ass beat as he has claimed he's the toughest senior at the assisted living facility. ngc3 Seriously though, SCM makes some good points, but he has no credibility with me due to his slanted views and being out to get certain people. There are tons of pieces of garbage in this business. Including some he's related to. But no mention of them other than him congratulating his shady, fat nephew!
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I'm not sure he's scared of getting his ass beat as he has claimed he's the toughest senior at the assisted living facility. ngc3 Seriously though, SCM makes some good points, but he has no credibility with me due to his slanted views and being out to get certain people. There are tons of pieces of garbage in this business. Including some he's related to. But no mention of them other than him congratulating his shady, fat nephew!
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There's some truth to what he says, just too many coincidentals to be all made up
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What if Ford was the distributor, makes senses,trainers stabled there, many shippers lay over at his farm, prime location
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There's some truth to what he says, just too many coincidentals to be all made up
This guy is definitely shielded by his positions in the usta and New Jersey. I’ve asked around. Most people won’t say anything for fear of him manipulating and threatening them with losing theyre ability to work and earn in the business. He’s sheltered beards at his farm with full knowlege even right now. Housed Josh Marks at his farm and I’m hearing that guy even took horses for him to train and no names changed on any paperwork. He’s been sued by the government and by a neighbor. There’s just too many red flags on this Ford for nothing to be true.
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An abuse of power
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I AGREE 100% WITH MIKE ANT ON THIS ONE. SHOPPING CART MIKE HAS A VENDETTA AGAINST A FEW PEOPLE IN NEW YORK WHO PUT HIM OUT OF RACING SO HE IS BRINGING UP ALL THE DIRT HE CAN ON THEM. WHY DIDNT HE DO IT WHEN HE WAS WORKING FOR THEM? THATS THE MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION.
Make that two of us! I also agree.
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Ok so we all know by now that potrelli doesn’t like mark ford because of marks success and longevity in harness racing. But stop and think about this. SCM has been a groom for how long? And now after getting thrown out of Goshen he just realized horses are being killed and drugged and he wants to rescue them? Really? Check around and you will hear the facts that mike not only was a good groom for a long time, but he participated in pre racing and hurting horses too. So just think about SCM’s timing in suddenly rescuing horses. It’s cause Ford threw him off the track and mike didn’t pay his bills. So now is a convenient time to tell the dirty little secrets he’s known for years because he can’t get a job anywhere in the business. Timing is everything folks and SCM has run out of friends just as he was run out of Goshen. So blast away at people who’ve done wrong not at the time they did wrong, but at the time when you want revenge. Mike your credibility is ZERO. Not because mark ford lied, it’s because you didn’t report any wrong doing until you got the cold shoulder and thrown out of Goshen. Mike, you know I’m right because you covered up for years before you busted out of the business and now you want revenge. By the way, we’ve all done shit wrong mike. Even yourself. But you have zero credibility because you allowed this shit to go on for years and now that you’re thrown out of Goshen, you suddenly want to report all of the wrongs. Get a life liar!
PS Jason wants nothing to do with you so don’t try and act like you guys are okay because both of the bartletts want nothing to do with you.
PSS watch out anyone who talks to this scumbag because he is recording you. He’s scared that someone is going to bust his face open so he records everyone everywhere. Mike is running scared so beware everyone because he is recording you.
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There's some truth to what he says, just too many coincidentals to be all made up
Agree, but he turns a blind eye to many others he knows are doing the same thing. How about his family?
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He should have brought this stuff up as it was happening no one can disagree with that but sometimes people come out with information when they have nothing left to lose and obviously that is the case here, but he does bring up alot of legitimate facts, and should stick with those instead of his personal bs being brought into it.
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He can't think of anything else other than getting Ford back. This horse crusade is just a diversion. I think he cares about horses, but that's secondary and not the reason for any of this. And he hasn't once denied that he looked the other way during his time in the industry. No shot he didn't see or know of horses being tubed/shocked/etc at some point during his tenure in the industry. Not saying he did it directly, but even he has said those that know and do nothing are just as bad. SCM, is nephew's name on your list/trail of names you turned over? If not, you are being truthful are you?
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Make that two of us! I also agree.
Who cares? If the accusations are true doesn’t Ford/Jones/Schnittker deserve to be punished for wrongdoing?
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Who cares? If the accusations are true doesn’t Ford/Jones/Schnittker deserve to be punished for wrongdoing?
Yes yes yes ..... as long as you punish SCM as well fir his turning a blind eye while he was working for these scumbags. They all need to be punished including SCM. Just ask the Counselor how the courts treat accomplices or co-conspirators. SCM should be punished worse than these guys. FACT!!!
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Been saying this the whole time. It was all ok until SCM got the boot! tmbz1