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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Calhoun on December 07, 2022, 06:08:46 PM
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Aside from Hambo day, Jug, Lexington
A. a family.... husb/wife/2+ kiddies (not horse people)
B. people standing 3 deep at the rail
C. freshly cooked food in grandstand
D Shopping Cart Mike
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This is actually a very good topic. I would say three deep and the track apron families with kids and everybody number two and you also don’t see a lot of young people at the track tracks for the most part these days are all empty. The stands are empty. The aprons are empty everybody’s choosen to stay home. The Internet has killed attendance at the track.
Every bets threw their phones or computers
Just my opinion.
Time between races has killed people actually staying around to stay and watch the races. Nobody wants to stay at a racetrack for four hours to watch 10 races with this new age. The attention span is about 10 minutes.
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Side note
Between
shopping cart, Mike and pigeon Jim you’re making a whole Lotta new buddies
;D ;D
Calhound
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1974 , Wolverine Raceway in Livonia MI
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Side note....
The French call it Pigeonneau on the menu. Baby pigeons are known as Squab.
Squab are butchered at the ripe old age of 28 days.
The entire little fella, when served, weighs about 10 ounces, bones and all.
hvc.1 hvc.1
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Jug week my family and i are all in all week!!!
Going to Northville downs is not the best place to see live racing but we go ( closest live racing for us) .... Northville sports den great food worth the trip though.
Rather sit home or on a job site and bet from phone.
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1974 , Wolverine Raceway in Livonia MI
Sattelberg still alive?
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Saturday night in the summer at Scioto downs in the late 90s. Pretty girls everywhere. If I didn't have any drives after the 7th race I'd go over to the clubhouse and grab a bite to eat and hang out with friends. The club and penthouse would be packed. Those days are long gone.
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Juky 1975 , Monticello Inaugural OTB Classic won by the great filly Silk Stockings setting a new track record of 1:57:3... Tons of families,people 3 deep fresh food and very possibly a very young Mike Petrelli
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Juky 1975 , Monticello Inaugural OTB Classic won by the great filly Silk Stockings setting a new track record of 1:57:3... Tons of families,people 3 deep fresh food and very possibly a very young Mike Petrelli
I paid extra to get a seat in section D.
To answer the question, that would be the last July 4th fireworks at Monticello. That night was always the largest crowd of the year. I can't remember the year. Probably 2010.
I remember people wanted to bet and they only had 4 tellers working. Management was already putting the screws to everyone.
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I paid extra to get a seat in section D.
I used to have to buy seats for my parents Section E or F back in the hey days..Amazing to think the grandstands were so filled with fans .. nice memories
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I paid extra to get a seat in section D.
To answer the question, that would be the last July 4th fireworks at Monticello. That night was always the largest crowd of the year. I can't remember the year. Probably 2010.
I remember people wanted to bet and they only had 4 tellers working. Management was already putting the screws to everyone.
I Remember that July 4th night we had one in shipped up from yonks. was around 2007 or 2008. It was packed for monticello at that time people from all over family's kids running around came to see those fireworks I was like where did all these people come from. Then the following year they had fireworks at some park somewhere because they said some bs about noise with stables and paddock in the back.
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It was more of the same at, Saratoga. 6 Pm post time. By 8:00pm you could not fit another on the apron. Attendance would be around 6,000-7,000 as compared to an average race night of 800.
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The last packed live card I attended was SBSW winning the North America Cup
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John Cigar has been missing for years
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Lewiston Raceway and Scarborough back when one had the Presidents Cup and the other had Falcon Seelster Race. Anybody that can answer these questions is on social security and that’s why the sport is basically dead. Used to be some fine women, regular types and the carny horse folks all mixed together. Now, only hard core losers and owners at the track, not worth the drive. Harness died in the late 80’s, it will disappear basically this decade.
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The Meadowland's destroyed harness racing in this country back in 1976. They drained 25% of every tracks best horses, drivers, trainers and especially owners to that complex. It took a few years to totally bring it down but the old local tracks never recovered.
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moutain skipper right on point meadowlands ruined racing local trainers lost their best horses to the swamp and it spiraled down from there
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C. freshly cooked food in grandstand
Late 1980s early 1990s at Sportsman's Park.
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This is actually a very good topic. I would say three deep and the track apron families with kids and everybody number two and you also don’t see a lot of young people at the track tracks for the most part these days are all empty. The stands are empty. The aprons are empty everybody’s choosen to stay home. The Internet has killed attendance at the track.
Every bets threw their phones or computers
Just my opinion.
Time between races has killed people actually staying around to stay and watch the races. Nobody wants to stay at a racetrack for four hours to watch 10 races with this new age. The attention span is about 10 minutes.
used to be jam-packed at the old Lebanon raceway in Ohio every race night in the 80's. cigar smoke hanging in the air - bottle beer corral shoulder to shoulder - little kids just outside the doors runnin' round actin' like horses - AND, the upstair, glass emcl grandstand was upscale swanky.
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This is actually a very good topic. I would say three deep and the track apron families with kids and everybody number two and you also don’t see a lot of young people at the track tracks for the most part these days are all empty. The stands are empty. The aprons are empty everybody’s choosen to stay home. The Internet has killed attendance at the track.
Every bets threw their phones or computers
Just my opinion.
Time between races has killed people actually staying around to stay and watch the races. Nobody wants to stay at a racetrack for four hours to watch 10 races with this new age. The attention span is about 10 minutes.
watch the thoroughbred tracks and celebs, luminaries, executive type, politicians mingle w/ the crowd.
When was the last time that you saw Taylor Swift at a harness track ?
When was the last time that you saw John Lennon at a harness track ?
When was the last time that you saw Derek Jeter at a harness track ?
When was the last time that you saw Joe Biden at a harness track ?
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watch the thoroughbred tracks and celebs, luminaries, executive type, politicians mingle w/ the crowd.
When was the last time that you saw Taylor Swift at a harness track ?
When was the last time that you saw John Lennon at a harness track ?
When was the last time that you saw Derek Jeter at a harness track ?
When was the last time that you saw Joe Biden at a harness track ?
Why on earth does that matter?
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I used to see art schlichter at Scioto and Lebanon a lot. Always wanted a tip.
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I used to see art schlichter at Scioto and Lebanon a lot. Always wanted a tip.
I used to run bets for him as a kid at Lebanon... He would sit in the pickup truck in the barn area right by the guard shack that Donnie would sell soda's and snacks out of .,,,,
Years later when he was really in trouble he wanted to right me a check for cash at beulah park. ummm Nope
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like it or not. you get some glitter it becomes an event. do you, in a million years, believe harness racing looks like a legit sport?
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the meadowlands didn't destroy racing , it made harness racing, brought it out of fair tracks to the big time
went from racing for cooler blankets and ribbons to millions of dollars
the problem was there was no one in place smart enough to take advantage and grow the sport both from an owner and fan base , no long term strategic thinking, just short term regional bias
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greenwod raceway
there was nothing better than a saturday afternoon there in the 1980's
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the meadowlands didn't destroy racing , it made harness racing, brought it out of fair tracks to the big time
went from racing for cooler blankets and ribbons to millions of dollars
the problem was there was no one in place smart enough to take advantage and grow the sport both from an owner and fan base , no long term strategic thinking, just short term regional bias
Exactly. I don't know anyone under 40 with any serious interest in investing in harness racing.
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Name a track that even needs an apron, has decent food in the grandstand. If ya say Pocono, they just sit outside and drink, then they go back to the casino and have fun. No fun anymore, boring show.
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Name a track that even needs an apron, has decent food in the grandstand. If ya say Pocono, they just sit outside and drink, then they go back to the casino and have fun. No fun anymore, boring show.
Miami Valley Gaming
N of Cincy / S of Dayton
Restaurants a short walk from trackside. Now - their concession trackside is amateurish
BUT, they have The Wizard, World's Greatest Handclapper <> and, he packs 'em in
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Ocean Downs has an ok restaurant that can see the track. Not the clubhouse, food is horrible, but the one in the casino near gaming table area. The outside seating is great and usually a lot of patrons outside.