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Title: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 23, 2022, 02:20:28 PM
Hawthorne race secretary putting all the good horses in one division of the state fair is just ridiculous.  How do the top 4 2 yr old colts end up in the same division?  The IHHA should step in and request she splits them randomly. 
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Superfecta on August 23, 2022, 02:39:04 PM
Maybe they actually draw like they are supposed to and aren't seeding like most tracks do.
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 23, 2022, 02:46:59 PM
Maybe they actually draw like they are supposed to and aren't seeding like most tracks do.

And all the good ones end up in one division?  No chance!
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 29, 2022, 07:58:26 PM
That unbelievable probability happened again.  Calling all lawyers.
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Purple Lavern on August 30, 2022, 08:54:20 AM
Like putting 4 NCAA 1 seeds in the same bracket to play round 1...
There seems to be weighted divisions which sounds like it penalizes the better horses but most likely illegal!
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: captain morgan on August 30, 2022, 09:02:28 AM
Like putting 4 NCAA 1 seeds in the same bracket to play round 1...
There seems to be weighted divisions which sounds like it penalizes the better horses but most likely illegal!

To be the best you have to beat the best. Stop whining 😂
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Racing Troll on August 30, 2022, 09:21:02 AM
IT IS NICE TO HAVE A COMPETITVE RACE FOR BETTORS TO WAGEE ON OR HAVE ODDS ON CHALKS IN BOTH TO SKIP BUT THEN HORSE TURDS ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR END AND DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE WAGERING

THANKS TO THE SECRETARY FOR LOOKING OUR WAY
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 30, 2022, 12:50:21 PM
IT IS NICE TO HAVE A COMPETITVE RACE FOR BETTORS TO WAGEE ON OR HAVE ODDS ON CHALKS IN BOTH TO SKIP BUT THEN HORSE TURDS ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR END AND DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE WAGERING

THANKS TO THE SECRETARY FOR LOOKING OUR WAY

What about the next week when it isnt competitive cause all the garbage that made the final?  All it is doing is screwing the people who spend all the money to provide these races from racing for 150k purse. 
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 30, 2022, 12:52:22 PM
To be the best you have to beat the best. Stop whining 😂

Its not about beating them.  We will do that.  Its that they wont get to make their fair share of 150k and some undeserving horses that go 3 second slower will get a to be in the final. 
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: LUCPARK on August 30, 2022, 01:15:55 PM
What about the next week when it isnt competitive cause all the garbage that made the final?  All it is doing is screwing the people who spend all the money to provide these races from racing for 150k purse.

Your a fckin idiot

Period
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 30, 2022, 01:26:44 PM
Your a fckin idiot

Period

Said by the king idiot! Even someone as dumb as you would know that putting 5 of the top 6 horse in one division when there are 3 divisions is bullshit.  Itmeans 2 of the best wont get in the final.  Unless your saying i am an idiot for racing in Illinois than you are right.
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 30, 2022, 01:27:37 PM
Your a fckin idiot

Period

And go sell a ford or whatever you do.
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 30, 2022, 02:58:06 PM
For those that are reading this and understanding how bad the division splits were, it was not error of the race office.  Its once again the fault of the awful usta computer system, aka, the vendor USTA outsource to. 
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Yonkers1A on August 30, 2022, 04:14:36 PM
For those that are reading this and understanding how bad the division splits were, it was not error of the race office.  Its once again the fault of the awful usta computer system, aka, the vendor USTA outsource to.

Are you saying the Race Secretary can not make  changes, it’s all up to a computer and software
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: Winners Win on August 30, 2022, 05:41:03 PM
Are you saying the Race Secretary can not make  changes, it’s all up to a computer and software

The selection of horses into each division was was ran through the usta program and only 1 time according the USTA.  Now is there a trick of how you list them in the software that can control the result, I do not know.  When 5 of the top 6 horses are in one division, something is faulty.
Title: Re: Just wrong
Post by: LAW AND ORDER on September 01, 2022, 04:43:30 PM
The selection of horses into each division was was ran through the usta program and only 1 time according the USTA.  Now is there a trick of how you list them in the software that can control the result, I do not know.  When 5 of the top 6 horses are in one division, something is faulty.
THE SOFTWARE ORGANISES THE HORSES IN ORDER OF EARNINGS AND TIME. THEY TAKE THE FIRST SIX AND PUT THEM IN ONE DIVISION AND THE NEXT SIX AND SO ON. ROBIN THE RACE SECRETARY JUST PUSHES A BUTTON ON THE COMPUTER AND THE DRAW IS DONE. SHE DOESNT HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE COMPUTER ORGANISING THE HORSES ACCORDING TO WINNINGS AND TIME.
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