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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: Frank Deglomine on August 18, 2022, 11:36:19 PM
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Another time Erv has 4-5 horses in the big stake tonight and Tyler only had one and he beats all of Ervs for the big first place prize. It was funny cause Rocco and his crew all thought they were going to the winners circle and Jordan Ross spoiled that shit. Congrats to Tyler and Jordan for showing Erv Miller that you cant buy your way. I love it. Rocco’s face was dragging on the ground. Ha ha
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He had that thing loaded up last night. Was in a different gear in the stretch. Funny it coincided with a bigger purse. ngc3
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Who or what is a Jordan Ross? And why does Frank have a beef with Lucpark and his horses? First he wants to blow Hochstetler and now Tyler George? Get a life of your own Frank. Stop riding the sack of others!
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2 fillys got beat it happens
both have made enuff in points made to be in the superfinal in oct ..
lets see how JB and FRANKIE do in sires to nite..
the longest yard and wolftrax also have big races comin up tom and tues
lets see how it all works out..
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LP Staple Reports now good tmbz1
Thanks to God for letting me live long enough to see this happen.
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Trace Tetrick just blew it again, why anyone uses that guy is beyond me. He is so bad!!
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Another Erv Miller horse toasted. What did I tell you guys come September. They’ve all been corked early. Erv blows their brains out in June and July every year and come September they are all toast from the juice burnout. Jays horses look fresh every race and always last year after year. No comparison.
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Trace Tetrick just blew it again, why anyone uses that guy is beyond me. He is so bad!!
If you are talking about his drive on Luc's horse in the 12th, I agree he could've rated him a little better. Either the horse didn't like being loose on the front end or he just wasn't on his A-game tonight. He should've had enough to finish it off; just didn't tonight.
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If you are talking about his drive on Luc's horse in the 12th, I agree he could've rated him a little better. Either the horse didn't like being loose on the front end or he just wasn't on his A-game tonight. He should've had enough to finish it off; just didn't tonight.
Ervs horses all burned out from the early summer juice parties.
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He had that thing loaded up last night. Was in a different gear in the stretch. Funny it coincided with a bigger purse. ngc3
George is far and away the best trainer at Hoozier, at least based on win %. George is @ 35%, nobody really close. He's really gotten good over the last couple years.
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Erv has him doubled in money earned at Hoosierpark this yr
Learn the fvkin game CADDY
Erv will have 2 million or close to that at end of yr
Nobody else close. Erv at 1.2 million I believe right now in Indy purses alone
Third in purses earned in the country behind Burke and ALAGNA
ITS ABOUT The MONEY ..
erv in second in wins I believe at Hoosierpark
And erv races there partime. and. Races mostly babies and few three yr olds
LEARN THE GAME
CADDY
A mind IS A TERRIBLE THING TO
WASTE
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Don't forget Erv has raced twice as many horses as George and still hasn't win as many. Difference being... Erv made money for his people.... for the most part tyler made money for himself...so in the end less is more
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Erv has him doubled in money earned at Hoosierpark this yr
Learn the fvkin game CADDY
Erv will have 2 million or close to that at end of yr
Nobody else close. Erv at 1.2 million I believe right now in Indy purses alone
Third in purses earned in the country behind Burke and ALAGNA
ITS ABOUT The MONEY ..
erv in second in wins I believe at Hoosierpark
And erv races there partime. and. Races mostly babies and few three yr olds
LEARN THE GAME
CADDY
A mind IS A TERRIBLE THING TO
WASTE
It is about the money! But it's earnings per start and you know that! You can make millions, but it still might not be turning a profit for anyone other than Erv.
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Erv has him doubled in money earned at Hoosierpark this yr
Learn the fvkin game CADDY
Erv will have 2 million or close to that at end of yr
Nobody else close. Erv at 1.2 million I believe right now in Indy purses alone
Third in purses earned in the country behind Burke and ALAGNA
ITS ABOUT The MONEY ..
erv in second in wins I believe at Hoosierpark
And erv races there partime. and. Races mostly babies and few three yr olds
LEARN THE GAME
CADDY
A mind IS A TERRIBLE THING TO
WASTE
Thanks on the educatin'. I should know that cause they say it in a movie, Show me the Honey ...
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Erv has him doubled in money earned at Hoosierpark this yr
Learn the fvkin game CADDY
Erv will have 2 million or close to that at end of yr
Nobody else close. Erv at 1.2 million I believe right now in Indy purses alone
Third in purses earned in the country behind Burke and ALAGNA
ITS ABOUT The MONEY ..
erv in second in wins I believe at Hoosierpark
And erv races there partime. and. Races mostly babies and few three yr olds
LEARN THE GAME
CADDY
A mind IS A TERRIBLE THING TO
WASTE
Only way to compare the 2 is when they are in the same races right?
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Only way to compare the 2 is when they are in the same races right?
I wasn’t comparing them
Caddy was
I just pointed out some omitted FACTS
By caddy
WHAT ERV FORGOT ABOUT HORSES MOST WILL NEVER KNOW
Just a few facts
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Yea them dude in Canada and a few others that only have a few babies every year and win the NA cup and the pace are pretty bad ngc3
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I wasn’t comparing them
Caddy was
I just pointed out some omitted FACTS
By caddy
WHAT ERV FORGOT ABOUT HORSES MOST WILL NEVER KNOW
Just a few facts
COME ON ROCKY. TYLER IS THE BEST TRAINER AT HOOSIER AND ERV ISNT ALL THAT YOU SAY HE IS. IM NOT SAYING ERV IS BAD, BUT COME ON. YOU GUYS BUY THE BEST BRED COLTS AND FILLIES SO HES ALREADY AHEAD OF 90% OF THE OTHER TRAINERS. SPEND THAT MONEY IN TYLER GEORGES BARN AND WATCH HOW MUCH MORE MONEY YOU'LL MAKE. IM NOT KNOCKING ERV BECAUSE HES HAD A HECK OF A YEAR BUT HIS HORSES DONT LAST. ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT MARCUS DRIVES. THAT KID HAS NEVER GOTEEN ANY BETTER. HOOOORRRRIBLE!!!!!! I KNOW YOU SAY ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY BUT IF YOU BUY HIGH PRICED HORSES YOURE EXPECTED TO MAKE MONEY. I KNOW THERE AINT ANY GUARANTEES BUY THE BABIES YOU BUY ARE ALMOST A CANT MISS.
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I gave you facts
Not opinions or what ifs
Last yr ervs. Made over a million at Hoosierpark traing
This yr he’s going to double that or better
Any body can raise their hands and sign for sales tickets
At classic Indy sale
It’s not a simple guess and buy the most expensive.
It’s a lot work going to farms and actually touching and watching videos
Snd crosses
Erv does alot work with his owners. Not just a monthly traing statement
These are facts. How’s he’s treated me anyways
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Erv is a known cheat. He switched a gelding and passed him off as a filly at the meadowlands a few years back and made over a million dollars in the filly and mare stakes. Then when he was exposed he said it was the tracks fault not his. Really?? Do you guys actually think Erv doesn’t pre race the F out of those horses? He has good juice. He’s a good horseman but he uses hood juice on disloyal bred horses and that spells money. It’s not hard to win when you have five out of nine horses in the race. Get real
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The horse's name was Martha Maxine. I'm not here to defend Erv but he didn't take a gelding and pass it off as a filly. The filly looked like a filly from the outside but anatomically she was a male. She was a hermaphrodite and after they scanned her she was made to race in horses & geldings.
And so your saying Erv being the great trainer that he is didn’t know this?? Erv Miller never had a clue right? Yeah ok. This guy picks out yearnings and examines horses from the inside out and he never knew it? How come when it was discovered he blamed the racetrack then? That’s your great trainer who didn’t know a gelding from a filly.
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And so your saying Erv being the great trainer that he is didn’t know this?? Erv Miller never had a clue right? Yeah ok. This guy picks out yearnings and examines horses from the inside out and he never knew it? How come when it was discovered he blamed the racetrack then? That’s your great trainer who didn’t know a gelding from a filly.
I’m sorry your broke ass know it all
Comes here to rant and teach us all
Now why don’t you stop talking about shit from thirty yrs ago
Cus I really do t give a flying fuck
And please teach us everything u know about harness
U FUCKIN IDIOT TROLL
NO BODY GIVES A FVK WHAT U LOSERS RANT ABOUT
OLD NEWS NOBODY CARES about
You have anything from 2020 till present
U fvkin NITWIT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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Ps. Steve
Get a fckin life
Ps.
Yes your broke ass has no money
And your mad at everyone
And you know all the gossip
About every little thing
YOUR SHIT GOT BORING TEN YRS AGO
NOW TELL US SOME MORE WORTHLESS CRAP FROM TWENTY Yrs Ago
THAT NOBODY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
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I agree that it was a long time ago, but it did happen and Erv is way too good of a horseman to not know this. Rocco, I'm just saying. It doesn't matter if something happened a century ago if IN FACT it happened! Heck slavery happened 400 years ago and in 1865 Abraham Lincoln abolished it. It still doesn't mean that it didn't happen. Again, sorry Rocco. Just stating my two cents. Robin and I still love you. tmbz1
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When a filly looks like a filly why in the heck would you scan her for a pair of nuts? Why not blame the farm who sold her? They seen her everyday from birth to the time she sold.
I kinda agree with you but the fam had her for a year and half. Erv raced her for like 5+ years. Just Cause the farm F’ed up doesn’t mean it was okay for Erv to continue the F-up. I’m just saying. Makes me no difference either way but I just don’t believe something this big could get by Erv but I guess anything is possible. Lots of talk around Chicago about Erv being named in the next group of horsemen being indicted.
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Did Martha Maxine identify as a male or female?
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She/he identified with a jet plane…..
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Did Martha Maxine identify as a male or female?
He was a gelding but got to race in all of the filly and mare stakes races and made 800,000 in doing so. Lol
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He was a gelding but got to race in all of the filly and mare stakes races and made 800,000 in doing so. Lol
Was MM sold as a filly at the sales?
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Was MM sold as a filly at the sales?
That I’m not sure of
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Was MM sold as a filly at the sales?
Carl, think of this...... so they buy MM as a filly at the sale from a breeding farm who maybe saw her/him for 12-15 months of their life. They screwed up probably. But now enter Erv Miller, considered a top five trainer in the country. You mean to tell me that Erv, the trainer, the groom who bathes and cares for the horse, nobody in the operation knew that MM was male and not a female? If it was some rinky- dinky operation I would think ok well maybe. But I’m not buying this story happened in the Erv Miller barn and it slipped by him for 5+ years. Almost impossible.
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You people are fucking clueless. MM was sold as a filly because she anatomically looked like a filly! She didn't have a set of nuts hanging. After her 5yo season she was made to take a cat scan because I believe she came back for a high testosterone test. Once they did the cat scan it was found that she had a set of nuts in her. These were not visible and for the last time, she looked like a filly from the outside. This could have happened to anyone. I'm not defending Erv but there is no way he could have known.
Get outta town. Ha ha she came back with a high testosterone test? By who? Lmfao Erv scans all of his babies. He knew from day one but okay you win
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Erv scans all of his babies. He knew from day one but okay you win
Just chiming in to say this is an idiotic comment. Not a single trainer in America scans all of their yearlings. Lmao
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When you scan babies.... you scan their legs. Not their stomach tooking for a set of nuts. Not to mention and atomically cotrect filly that was in heat constantly. Why in the fuck would anyone EVER look for a set of nuts in filly????
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When you scan babies.... you scan their legs. Not their stomach tooking for a set of nuts. Not to mention and atomically cotrect filly that was in heat constantly. Why in the fuck would anyone EVER look for a set of nuts in filly????
When then why look:for a set of nuts 5 years later after she won 800,000? Suddenly he must of just been curious?
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Because she had more than one high testosterone positive. Pay attention.
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Because she had more than one high testosterone positive. Pay attention.
So what!!! High testosterone positive. Funny that the testosterone posture cane 800 grand later and not before. Wow Erv is really lucky guy.
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Do you even rave horses??? We didn't test hormones until a certain point in time.... the levels never mattered... til they did. You gotta get a clue.
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Thank You! Finally someone speaks some sense!
3 pages later and the topic has veered onto a side subject dredged up form the constantly churning rumor mill. Concealed gonadicals has little to do w/ the here and now. to refresh your dusty memories : I pointed out that George had the highest win % @ HoozieerDaddy , then lucpark said show me the money. then for over 2 pages a squad of stirrers lazer focused on a the magic of a filly w/ hidden balls.
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George is by far the best overall trainer at hoosier. Erv wins a lot of races that he is supposed to. I mean the guy spends 50-100k on yearlings at the sale every year. He is supposed to win. I did see Rocco’s other horse scratched the last night and sone of the guys who were posting earlier about Erv might be right. Some of 100 two year old Indy Breds he has are tired or lame from getting cranked up too early in the year. Erv’s had a good year but the mo ey he spends should tell you that. It takes money to make money. The Cinderella story of a guy buying a $1500 year king and making $100 are over. Guy like Erv go to the hoosier and Michiana sale with a million plus in their account to buy whatever they want. But overall, nobody at hoosier is better than Tyler George.
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3 pages later and the topic has veered onto a side subject dredged up form the constantly churning rumor mill. Concealed gonadicals has little to do w/ the here and now. to refresh your dusty memories : I pointed out that George had the highest win % @ HoozieerDaddy , then lucpark said show me the money. then for over 2 pages a squad of stirrers lazer focused on a the magic of a filly w/ hidden balls.
erv will break the 2 mill barrier at hoosierpark this yr.
racin only four months a yr there.with mostly babies and 3 yr olds .
overnight racing at very best can break u even
unless your the trainer ,,and owner.
you go to baby sale expecting the greatest thin g ever most of the time it dont pan out ..
bigger risk higher reward,,,me personally im out of overnight racing,.,
after 3 yr old im selling 95 percent..
yes caddy the same fckin morons have ruined a decent thread agin with nonsense crap from 33 yrs ago that nobody gives a fck about.
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THE LOSERS IN THIS INDUSTRY JUST HAVE TO TRY TO BRING WINNERS DOWN CANT ACCEPT FACTS THAT OTHERS ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE... PERIOD.
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THE LOSERS IN THIS INDUSTRY JUST HAVE TO TRY TO BRING WINNERS DOWN CANT ACCEPT FACTS THAT OTHERS ARE BETTER THAN THEY ARE... PERIOD.
I never said Erv was a bad trainer or anything like that. In fact this year he’s a top ten trainer in the USA. But you do have to admit that Tyler George is a heck of a trainer in his own right. He doesn’t get nearly the royally bred horses that Erv does. That’s what this whole thread is about. Although I will say it looks like a lot of Erv’s young horses have tailed off a bit from a few months ago. The two monsters he has in the first race at Duquoin just went down in a ball of flames. In the past two weeks many of them have gotten upset at odds on favorites at Hoosier. But I get it. Erv is a ver6 good trainer but so is Tyler George.