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PIGLAND

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2021, 07:42:09 AM »
i think alot more need to be caught and jailed

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2021, 08:05:55 AM »
i think alot more need to be caught and jailed
tmbz1 The Mastermind behind all this shit seems to be Fishman the Vet--if Oakes gets 3 years--then Fishman should get 30 and all his possessions taken as he must have made untold fortunes selling his crap.

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2021, 08:21:47 AM »
Exactly what I've been saying all along start throwing the owners in jail for being knowingly involved. Crawford's knew dammed well what Oakes was doing and payed for it in their training bill.

I'm guessing Chris wasn't billing owners for drugs. Most owners I know just pay their bills & root their horses on. I don't think they actually know when something illegal is going on. Trainers wouldn't be telling their owners hey I got some new stuff no they just use it!!

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2021, 09:34:07 AM »
I'm guessing Chris wasn't billing owners for drugs. Most owners I know just pay their bills & root their horses on. I don't think they actually know when something illegal is going on. Trainers wouldn't be telling their owners hey I got some new stuff no they just use it!!

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2021, 10:52:55 AM »
racing should take all puse money back and redistribute?

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2021, 11:02:05 AM »
you will never get the owners, even the ones who are complicit to some degree
however rooting out the juice trainers will accomplish the goal
but somebody within the harness racing governing bodies has to want to do it, cant depend on the feds for it all, they started but someone else will have to complete the task

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2021, 11:14:07 AM »
In many cases the owner as you said just pays the bill and roots their horses on and any extras are are hidden as therapeutic or supplements. But all of us know good competent trainers who feed the best, has a good training regimen but come race day gets beat by the same trainers who at any track are on top of the trainers list week in week out and it doesn't matter who drives the horse. I had a friend who trains in Ontario a few years ago and on my way back from Toronto I thought I would stop in and see him. Well when I pulled up to the barn he was was just coming out of a stall and when he saw me he slipped something into his jacket pocket. He was kind of abrupt and said I caught him at a bad time he had two in to go that night and had to get going because of lasix time. Should I bet both I asked and he said their in shape and should get a piece and after a few minutes he had to get going. When I got home that night I bet a $20 on both and they both won but it was the way they won. They both left from mid post position got the lead and were pressured every step and at the top of the stretch looked cooked but what do you know they hit another gear and open up widening through the stretch. After that it was the last time I saw this trainer even the next day I called a few times to say congrats I got both of them and he never answered so I just gave up on him.

 The trainer probably just didn't want to talk to you and this was his way of telling you to F__k off.  Can't say I blame him. You probably get that a lot.

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2021, 11:17:54 AM »
Wake up North American racing. In a recent article Hong Kong racing reported it's North American handle was up 7% over last year. This just proves bettors are waking up and they have had enough of unregulated racing where drugs rule and no one including governments care.

The Mohawk handle has been on fire this year. $2 bettors don't know who uses what.
Serious bettors build all things into their handicapping.

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2021, 03:35:42 PM »
Once again if Oakes loaded up as many as he said he did, how good was the testing in PA and New York  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Secondly I don't remember Oakes owners returning purse money which would include the Crawfords  11.wp 11.wp

Thirdly, doesn't Crawford Farms put a lot of promotional money into Goooooffffrrrraaa llllll Downs  11.wp 11.wp 11.wp

Lastly, how many of these HOT tests were buried  11.wp 11.wp

Just more facts and reasons that HISA needs to PASS and be enforced   11.wp 11.wp 11.wp
If YOU would "HUSH" up, YOU just might know WhatzzzzZ UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2021, 09:58:29 AM »

Harrness racing  will never be trusted by new fans. 

Ever


The fuckin  guy just admitted to cheating for unfair advantage

That’s fckin stealing

Where is THE IRS.

DID HE PAY TAXES. ON ILLEGAL GOTTEN MONEY


THE TIME HAS ALSO COME TO GET IRS INVOLVED

EVERY ONE WHO PLEADS SHOULD HAVE AN IRS AUDIT

WHERES THE FUCKIN. TAX RETURNS.



Where is the advantage for the honest gamblers who trusted the tracks
To do proper cks

Where’s the advantage to honest owners and trainers who did not cheat to steal money from race tracks


3 Fuckin yrs max is  a fuckin joke

Harness has become a fuckin joke

Harness should  ban  family members also of those convicted


From any track
But that won’t happen


Usta.  Is basically FULL OF SHIT

HOPEFULLY GURAL WILL BAN FAMILY MEMBERS ALSO

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MILLER, ERVIN M WIND GAP, PA YOB 1966
PcD on 7/5/2021 FINED: $1,500
FULL - 15 DAYS, 10/29/2021 THRU 11/12/2021
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
PA Code 7-203.22 401.3(a)(b) Sample #374317 collected from the horse Regents Hanover
after race #7 on 7/5/21 was found to contain Dexamethasone. This is in violation of the
Pennsylvania medication rules. Mr. Miller is suspended 15 days(full)starting on 10/29/21
through 11/12/21. He is also fined $1500. There is also a loss of the purse($5850). During
this suspension he and all horses owned and trained by him are barred from all grounds
under the jurisdiction of the SHRC. Any transfer of horses during this suspension must be
approved by the judges at Pocono Downs or the SHRC. He my appeal this decision in
writing within 10 days of notice of this decision. the address for an appeal
is:2301N.Cameron St. Room 301-Harrisburg,PA 17110 ATTN TONY SALERNO
phone:717-787-5196

    Sincerely, Silent One

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2021, 10:17:05 AM »

MILLER, ERVIN M WIND GAP, PA YOB 1966
PcD on 7/5/2021 FINED: $1,500
FULL - 15 DAYS, 10/29/2021 THRU 11/12/2021
HORSE DISQUALIFIED, PURSE
REDISTRIBUTION
POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
PA Code 7-203.22 401.3(a)(b) Sample #374317 collected from the horse Regents Hanover
after race #7 on 7/5/21 was found to contain Dexamethasone. This is in violation of the
Pennsylvania medication rules. Mr. Miller is suspended 15 days(full)starting on 10/29/21
through 11/12/21. He is also fined $1500. There is also a loss of the purse($5850). During
this suspension he and all horses owned and trained by him are barred from all grounds
under the jurisdiction of the SHRC. Any transfer of horses during this suspension must be
approved by the judges at Pocono Downs or the SHRC. He my appeal this decision in
writing within 10 days of notice of this decision. the address for an appeal
is:2301N.Cameron St. Room 301-Harrisburg,PA 17110 ATTN TONY SALERNO
phone:717-787-5196

    Sincerely, Silent One

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2021, 11:38:05 AM »
Where has this been for 100+ days ??? Oh, that is the heart of the racing season… can’t disrupt the guys racing schedule.   

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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2021, 12:49:26 PM »
WON KY FUTURITY IN SAME MANNER ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
(MANOFMANYMISSIONS)
That's differnet. 

Accidental overdose.

 ngc3 ngc3


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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2021, 12:52:49 PM »
Yes

Obviously.
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Re: ANY UPDATES ON THE fake indictments
« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2021, 12:54:52 PM »
Mama always said, "Once a thief, always a thief."

 

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