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Title: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: wizardofoz on March 21, 2023, 11:49:27 PM
Burke claimed the #8 horse last week at Buffalo for some reason. Why add this of all horses to his stable?         
RACE 9 - Buffalo Raceway - NY - March 15, 2023
Conditions: FILLIES & MARES NW $4,000 LAST 4 STS OR OPT CL $12,000 AE: NW 4 EXT PM RACES LT OR NW THIS BASE COND IN WNY LAST ST AE: WINNERS LOWER CLASS IN WNY LAST ST
Gait: Pace Purse: 11,200 Class: FMNW4000L4 Distance: 1 mileT rack Cond: FT Temp-Allow: 32-0Off
HN    Horse    PP    1/4    1/2    3/4    Str    Finish   Actual   LQ   Odds    Driver    Trainer
3    Bank The Win    3    1/1    1/1    1/2    1/2    1/2   1:56.1    28.3   *0.75     Kevin Cummings    Mihajlo Zdjelar Jr
6    Fox Valley Charliz    6    5/6    4°/3H    3°/2H    2/2    2/2   1:56.3    28.3   10.00     Joseph Chindano Jr    Christopher Petrelli
4    Foolish Wisdom    X4    6/7    5°/4Q    5°/4    3/5    3/6Q   1:57.2    29.0   1.90     Matthew Athearn    Larry Stalbaum
1    Myells Real Terror    1    3/3    3/3    4/3H    5/6H    4/11H   1:58.2    30.1   52.00     Keith Kash Jr    Uriah Miller
5    Priceless Shadow    5    4/5    6/4T    6/4T    6/7    5/12   1:58.3    30.0   9.70     Christian Myers    Salvatore Digati
8    Sudden Change N    8    8/10    8/6H    7/5T    7/7H    6/13   1:58.4    30.0   53.50     Shawn McDonough    Angelo Nappo
7    Dancin` Anna    7    7/9    7°/5T    8°/6Q    8/9H    7/16H   1:59.2    30.3   73.75     Ray Fisher Jr    Lester Mullet
2    Im Chiara    2    2/1    2/1    2/2    4/6    8/20Q   2:00.1    32.1   12.00     Kyle Cummings    James Clouser Jr.
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: MikeAnt on March 22, 2023, 12:05:40 AM
Because he can.
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 22, 2023, 05:01:00 AM
The bigger issue is that he is ruining the sport.  How much does he need? Sets up stables and dominates in states that have new slots enriched programs.  Why not let the smaller outfits that were struggling for years fully reap the benefits? Sure he has lots of money but it's gotten out of hand. Multiple entries in bigger races. ( and they help each other in the race). Has many horses in so many states that he can move them around from state to state to fit cheaper conditions elsewhere. Now he's buying overnight horses on online auctions. Jacking up the prices to eliminate a possible new owner to the sport,

He and his partners may be laughing to the bank now but down the road, they will be wishing that they weren't so greedy,





Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Open bridle on March 22, 2023, 05:37:11 AM
The bigger issue is that he is ruining the sport.  How much does he need? Sets up stables and dominates in states that have new slots enriched programs.  Why not let the smaller outfits that were struggling for years fully reap the benefits? Sure he has lots of money but it's gotten out of hand. Multiple entries in bigger races. ( and they help each other in the race). Has many horses in so many states that he can move them around from state to state to fit cheaper conditions elsewhere. Now he's buying overnight horses on online auctions. Jacking up the prices to eliminate a possible new owner to the sport,

He and his partners may be laughing to the bank now but down the road, they will be wishing that they weren't so greedy,
That's why they have laws against monopolies in the business world. Just like in texas holdem.  If your stack is 5 times the size of all the other players then the odds are in your favor your going to take all their money eventually. Burke is going after every purse he can win large or small. He probably thinking why not if I can get away with it.
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Parked on March 22, 2023, 06:15:19 AM
She is back in to go tonight with same trainer and driver….
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: GlenMidby on March 22, 2023, 09:53:03 AM
Multiple entries in bigger races. ( and they help each other in the race).
This is exactly why Yonkers prohibits multiple entries in each of the five Borgata (Levy) $50,000 prelims.   Burke's Clear Vision riding shotgun for Foiled Again was an oft repeated tactic.   
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Open bridle on March 22, 2023, 10:09:35 AM
This is exactly why Yonkers prohibits multiple entries in each of the five Borgata (Levy) $50,000 prelims.   Burke's Clear Vision riding shotgun for Foiled Again was an oft repeated tactic.
I seen it happen more than once in stk races last year where one burke driver opens a hole where there wasn't one for the other burke horse in the race.
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 22, 2023, 10:37:44 AM
are entries allowed in the FINAL?? If it is, why bother
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: wizardofoz on March 22, 2023, 08:51:03 PM
Well the horse won tonight in its first start from burke at only 7/2 wire to wire easily!   
RACE 6 - Buffalo Raceway - NY - March 22, 2023
Conditions: FILLIES & MARES NW $4,000 LAST 4 STS OR OPT CL $12,000 AE: NW 4 EXT PM RACES LT OR NW THIS BASE COND IN WNY LAST ST AE: WINNERS LOWER CLASS IN WNY LAST ST
Gait: PacePurse: 11,200Class: FMNW4000L4Distanc e: 1 mileTrack Cond: FTTemp-Allow: 29-0Off Time: 7:36 PM
HN    Horse    PP    1/4    1/2    3/4    Str    Finish   Actual   LQ   Odds    Driver    Trainer
1    Sudden Change N    1    1/1    1/1    1/1    1/T    1/1Q   1:57.3    28.4   3.65     Dan Rawlings    James Clouser Jr.
7    Fox Valley Charliz    7    7/7T    5/9    5°/2T    3/1T    2/1Q   1:57.4    28.2   *0.60     Joseph Chindano Jr    Christopher Petrelli
4    Tobins Diva    4    5/5T    4/8    3°/1H    2/T    3/1T   1:58.0    29.0   4.20     Denny Bucceri    Joseph Skowyra
3    Chipper Daisy    3    4/4T    3/7    4/2Q    6/3Q    4/4   1:58.2    29.1   33.25     Keith Kash Jr    Shawn McDonough
2    Jenn`s Girl    2    2/1    2/1    2/1    4/2Q    5/4Q   1:58.2    29.2   20.80     James Mcneight Jr    Ronald Houghtaling
6    Late Night Date A    6    6/6T    I6/10    6/3T    5/2T    6/4T   1:58.3    29.0   23.30     Ray Fisher Jr    Ryan Swift
8    Payara    8    8/8T    IX8/11H    7/13T    7/13Q    7/13T   2:00.2    28.4   82.00     David Mcneight III    Kevin Reynolds Jr.
5    Ready Set Rock    5    3°/4    7/11    PU8/DIS        DNF          13.20     Kevin Cummings    Samuel Smith
Time:    29.2   59.0    (29.3)   1:28.4    (29.4)   1:57.3    (28.4)     Race Pool:    $21,450.31    
Win Place Show - $2 wager payouts   
HN    Horse    Driver   Win    Place    Show    
1    Sudden Change N    Dan Rawlings   9.30    4.10    3.30    
7    Fox Valley Charliz    Joseph Chindano Jr       2.60    2.20    
4    Tobins Diva    Denny Bucceri           3.00    
Pools:   $2,734.59    $1,442.44    $458.01    
      Exotics shown at min. wager
 Wager Type    Numbers/Payouts   Pool    
  $2.00 Exacta
 1-7 $17.20
$4,210.66
 
  $1.00 Trifecta
 1-7-4 $22.30
$4,677.55
 
  $1.00 Superfecta
 1-7-4-3 $109.75
$3,028.77
 
  $2.00 Daily Double
 1-1 $62.50
$2,121.71
 
  $1.00 Pick 5
 3-6-8-1-1 $4164.50
$2,776.58
 
1st   Sudden Change N  (12, M   Changeover - Crimson Trail - Spirit Of Zeus)
Registered Owner(s)/Lessee(s):  Burke Racing Stable LLC - PA, Weaver Bruscemi LLC - PA
Breeder(s):  Mrs. B Gye - NZ
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: JL52 on March 23, 2023, 08:18:14 AM
Perhaps this 12 year old will be used in amateur races?
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: dbharness on March 23, 2023, 08:44:40 AM
Or perhaps he bought her for a Broodmare?  I am guessing that is why he claimed her.  No other intent!

Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Brown jug on March 23, 2023, 11:10:13 AM
WHAT???http://www.horseplop.com/Smileys/smileys1/jester.gif
a broodmare
she is 12 and poorly bred with moderate ability  on the track
good god even burke knows enough not to go down that road
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Brown jug on March 23, 2023, 11:11:54 AM
well actually he is not so dominate when it comes to the grand circuit and the yearling game
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: drawbar on March 24, 2023, 07:10:30 AM
He claimed 3 that night.
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: PIGLAND on March 24, 2023, 08:54:16 AM
what a pig
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Open bridle on March 24, 2023, 09:37:08 AM
well actually he is not so dominate when it comes to the grand circuit and the yearling game
You can see by his yearling purchases that one of his plans is going after all of the Ohio $ he can get. Last year he won Ohio horse of the year in three classes and overall Ohio horse of the year. So it looks like his plan is working at least in Ohio.
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Superfecta on March 24, 2023, 10:13:57 AM
He just purchased Babble and is learning Spanish. Cal Expo must be next.  ngc3 ngc3
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Foalin at 4 on March 24, 2023, 10:49:15 AM
what a pig
     
Don't be bad mouthing pigs!!!!
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Locked in with pace on March 24, 2023, 02:27:18 PM
Bought a cheapie today on ONGAIT for $12.900.  CMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Weirwolf on March 24, 2023, 06:59:06 PM
Why not?
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Harness racer on March 25, 2023, 11:10:17 AM
Buffalo's purses are up so time to set up shop here too.  He's getting the money while it's still there.  Before SCM destroys the game.
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: Mailbox Money on March 25, 2023, 11:18:22 AM
First Rawlings goes the,now Burkes claiming some,looks like a well thought out plan has been set into motion! Play the fresh claims while you can still get some return!
Title: Re: Cheap claim by Burke at Buffalo....but why?
Post by: AGUA CALIENTE on March 27, 2023, 12:14:24 PM
Who else did he claim on the 15th, I've been outta town lately
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