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General Category => Harness Racing => Topic started by: wizardofoz on March 24, 2023, 12:18:26 PM
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“When you have inconsistencies that’s when you run into problems,” Hennessey said. “Why me and not him? But that’s not going to be brought up because it’s going to be everybody."
“I think you’re going to see it’s going to be alright because the guys at The Meadowlands have got to know and they will know that they’re not dealing with a rookie here. He’s somebody who has been there and done that. It’s not like you’re listening to him and you’re saying ‘Well,what would he know? "Well, he does know.”
For Haskell, fairness and consistency is everything when it comes to enforcing rules.
“They have to be upheld without prejudice for the guy who has one horse or one drive or the guy that drives 5,000 horses or the guy that wins eight races a year or the guy that wins 800 races a year,” Haskell said. “They know who I am, I know who they are. I’m not out to hurt them. I’m not out to hurt anybody. Everybody will be treated exactly the same, regardless of your name, experience or trophies. Everybody has to be treated equally. It’s so very important.” The four rules that Haskell will be focused on, broken down to their most basic points, are:
1 — Courtesy Tucks 2 — Half in, Half out
3 — Coming off the rail just out of the far turn to let horses go up the inside
4 — Drivers leaning too far back in the bike down the backstretch
In races involving 2-year-olds there will be more latitude used when enforcing the “courtesy tuck” rule, however unlike in previous years, the rules will be enforced in stakes races.
The penalties have also gotten stricter.
“The first punishment will be a warning and then the second punishment will be the next weekend off,” Haskell said. “And then we’ll see how it goes. The third part is you’re out, so they’re serious about this."
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It just keeps getting better at the Meadowlands
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Good. I wish this would apply to ALL tracks.
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Let the parked out, boxed in and paddock fist fight games begin.. I gotta over/under of 2 weekend fisticuffs.!! The boys are gunna start hating n despising.
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Meadowlands is lucky Yonkers doesn't race Saturdays they would probably loose a few guys
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I love it…. Those guys leaning straight back gives the front runners another 2 to 3 ft advantage. Giving holes has always been a problem. Friends get a tuck a guy not in the click goes a mile and a half.
This would not be necessary if the PJ did his job in the first place and fine the guy who gave the tuck, who leans way back and such..
just too bad a track has to enforce rules a PJ should. Maybe in the long run it will be good as the disciplinary action is in place and there will be no appeals.
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How about stop "herding" or putting a wheel under another horse as it carries more momentum but has to grab hold to avoid stepping on the wheel.
Happens over and over and over.
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Meadowlands is lucky Yonkers doesn't race Saturdays they would probably loose a few guys
COULDNT AGREE MORE, PLACE HAS AVERAGE CARDS AND HANDLE IS GREAT, WHY ARE
THEY BRINGING THIS GUY IN. DRIVERS WILL BE LEAVING.......... ......
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Half in & Half out is probably the biggest problem at the Meadowlands right now. Gingras does this in almost every race. Drifting out at the top of the lane is the 2nd biggest problem.
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I have 2 issues that are never addressed.
Guys pull and don't advance. They sit outside and wait for cover and this just kills any chance of an outer flow. My other issue are guys that sit behind a gapper and don't pull. Unless they bet on the leader why would anybody ever just sit under those circumstances. Many do and it's not good for the bettors blood pressure.
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Are we talking about Lou Haskell that was at Plainridge then went to Florida? If yes, be very careful because he will fight to be right even when he is wrong. Only looks to promote himself. He will act like he is your friend so the knife he sticks in your back won't hurt at first. Very bad news for the Meadowlands. Don't trust a word he says. Stay away.
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I have 2 issues that are never addressed.
Guys pull and don't advance. They sit outside and wait for cover and this just kills any chance of an outer flow. My other issue are guys that sit behind a gapper and don't pull. Unless they bet on the leader why would anybody ever just sit under those circumstances. Many do and it's not good for the bettors blood pressure.
I agree. Another thing that's irriitating is when you're driving the horse that's behind the gapper and you see a football field space in front of you but you cant get there because your horse won't race off a helmet until he gets in the stretch. You poke him out into the air and he just goes backwards. Either way it makes the driver look like an idiot
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Half in & Half out is probably the biggest problem at the Meadowlands right now. Gingras does this in almost every race. Drifting out at the top of the lane is the 2nd biggest problem.
I hate when Gringras goes half out & stops the momentum of the flow & then goes back in. He has been doing this for years & getting away with it.
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the lean back thing is gonna be a shit show
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It's all meaningless. You can never prove one thing on his hit list. Pure theater.
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It won't matter. Nothing will change.
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the lean back thing is gonna be a shit show
Gooferal will figure away to measure the distance they lean back soon.
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is this guy gonna catch burke
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I think they should inform the public when a driver has had a warning so we can see if they are still letting the chosen ones get away with the infractions!
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I think they should inform the public when a driver has had a warning so we can see if they are still letting the chosen ones get away with the infractions!
That would be nice
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Far too subjective to enforce. How will this judge measure 1 run, stone closers who draw the inside? Those drivers must drive on to prevent holes? Those types are finished if they are used hard turn 1
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There isa difference between gapping out and giving a hole.
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There isa difference between gapping out and giving a hole.
A hole.
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There isa difference between gapping out and giving a hole.
Yeah, and that is where it becomes subjective. It's all up to this judge's discretion
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Could use him at Dover. Judges let these guys rip ones face off to turn the favorite loose and have most of the time the favorite puking in their face at the 7/8ths! Too much tote board driving!
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Could use him at Dover. Judges let these guys rip ones face off to turn the favorite loose and have most of the time the favorite puking in their face at the 7/8ths! Too much tote board driving!
Could use a little more policing in the the NW 1,2,4 classes. A lot of suspect effort in the lane!
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Could use a little more policing in the the NW 1,2,4 classes. A lot of suspect effort in the lane!
Are you talking about the 2nd place syndrome that some have?
If we see it, then you know the judges see it as well.
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And I love when they say the horse just doesn't want to win. Bullshit! I don't even bet NW1,2 anymore because of all the Jonathan Roberts and Allan Davis shenanigans over the years.
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And I love when they say the horse just doesn't want to win. Bullshit! I don't even bet NW1,2 anymore because of all the Jonathan Roberts and Allan Davis shenanigans over the years.
Many years ago, Warren Schnittker used to brag how Ray would finish 2nd or 3rd every start and how it was such a great strategy.
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who did he replace or where they operating on a short staff?
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We'll see if anything changes. If the big guys complain, Haskell will be gone.
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Nothing will change. He's not even at the track. The drivers are going to give zero fucks about a judge who isn't on the grounds.
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This makes no sense. A ZOOM JUDGE. Curious how the present judges feel about someone looking over their shoulder and questioning the decisions they make.
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Nothing will change. He's not even at the track. The drivers are going to give zero fucks about a judge who isn't on the grounds.
I don’t think so, this is Gurals and Gurals man.
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He's Jeff's personal judge. He reports to Jeff what he sees and Jeff makes the decision on whether a driver gets warned or suspended from the Meadowlands. He has nothing to do with the NJRC judges. Jeff's house, Jeff's rules.
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Thanks for the clarification