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Kole Hanover

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« Reply #60 on: Today at 02:20:24 PM »
Actually it was former owners who saved her.
They were the ones who paid the money
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 When it comes to money;

 SCM always has his cup but he ain't chipped in
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« Reply #61 on: Today at 02:50:09 PM »
Dougie, I agree with everything you have said, but those are goals and objectives, they aren't "solutions".

Animal cruelty laws are already in place across the US and Canada.
What enhancement of those laws are you looking for?

As far as the safety and well being of harness horses, what are the top 3 causes of lack of safety and well being for them and what are the first 3 things you would do to improve their safety and well being?
I think this issue concerning harness racing should have Federal guidelines. Despite the local/state cruelty laws. I'd say 99.9% of folks care little about the harness racing industry. If there was a national campaign where pictures like the ones posted here happened, you'd see a groundswell of support for the proper care of the horses. Very much like what we saw on a much smaller level with the carriage horses business in NYC. Once pictures were posted, people were repulsed by what they saw. But as always, the true worth of any issues lies with the perpetrators of these horrible acts. Do they have the integrity to "police" themselves? Better yet, do that have the moral compass to ever recognize that a problem even exists? And lastly, do they have the humanity to see the horses who suffer these hard ends with love and compassion? What do you think?

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« Reply #62 on: Today at 02:59:02 PM »
When it comes to money;

 SCM always has his cup but he ain't chipped in

First donation I made right after my first conversation with Judy Bokman. So there, show us yours.

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« Reply #63 on: Today at 03:43:31 PM »
I think this issue concerning harness racing should have Federal guidelines. Despite the local/state cruelty laws. I'd say 99.9% of folks care little about the harness racing industry. If there was a national campaign where pictures like the ones posted here happened, you'd see a groundswell of support for the proper care of the horses. Very much like what we saw on a much smaller level with the carriage horses business in NYC. Once pictures were posted, people were repulsed by what they saw. But as always, the true worth of any issues lies with the perpetrators of these horrible acts. Do they have the integrity to "police" themselves? Better yet, do that have the moral compass to ever recognize that a problem even exists? And lastly, do they have the humanity to see the horses who suffer these hard ends with love and compassion? What do you think?

As communicated with SCM, I believe the answer is in controlling the pipeline in a way that:
- controls breeding
- supports racing industry
- doesn't exceed end of racing demand
And of course, all the way along, the animals are properly cared for.

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« Reply #64 on: Today at 06:03:40 PM »
Controlling the # of mares a stallion can breed would certainly be a start.

If , say you owned a stallion and could only breed 60

vs 120 or 150 would nt that strengthen the market as far as prices?


Would the owners of say new Stallions like

Confederate, Captains Quarters and Beach Glass

opt to only breed 60?

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« Reply #65 on: Today at 08:44:04 PM »
Controlling the # of mares a stallion can breed would certainly be a start.

If , say you owned a stallion and could only breed 60

vs 120 or 150 would nt that strengthen the market as far as prices?


Would the owners of say new Stallions like

Confederate, Captains Quarters and Beach Glass

opt to only breed 60?

CT, I think it would have to be a "licencing quota" system, where the number of foaling licences per year is controlled.   Lincences would be distributed via auction or lottery.  If pipeline can handle more foals next year than this year, extra licences could be distributed.   If pipeline can't handle as many, licences are reduced.

This would force the industry to control the foals being born and motivate the industry to increase the after racing demand.

 

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