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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #15 on: Today at 04:19:26 PM »
Good job TTT.
I wouldn't waste my time on a worthless poser.

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #16 on: Today at 04:21:22 PM »
Only the Administration can answer this question.

I would assume you can create a separate and unrelated username for each email account you have.
HOWEVER, That would not be possible if Admin allows only 1 username per IP address.

Somebody get the Admin on the line.

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #17 on: Today at 04:26:05 PM »
To summarize, "G" is an idiot obsessed with Mike, and thinks everyone who responds to him is Mike.
This post is accurate. You are an intelligent poster.  ;D

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #18 on: Today at 04:30:55 PM »
This post is accurate. You are an intelligent poster.  ;D
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Thanks! I'm sure when G sees it, he'll still call me Mike and tell me to stop collecting welfare and get a job.

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #19 on: Today at 04:34:51 PM »
This post is accurate. You are an intelligent poster.  ;D
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Thanks! I'm sure when G sees it, he'll still call me Mike and tell me to stop collecting welfare and get a job.
No worries...I'm on welfare and live in a 1 bedroom flat. It came as a shock to me.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #20 on: Today at 04:38:31 PM »
No worries...I'm on welfare and live in a 1 bedroom flat. It came as a shock to me.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3


Alot better than sleeping on that big pile of horse manure on FATSO's farm that "G" sleeps on. Alot better than sleeping up FATSO's butt like Paintbrush does.

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #21 on: Today at 04:41:50 PM »

Alot better than sleeping on that big pile of horse manure on FATSO's farm that "G" sleeps on. Alot better than sleeping up FATSO's butt like Paintbrush does.

Mike, you are on fire

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #22 on: Today at 04:43:13 PM »
It would appear hes gone clean! I remember years back he had to ship to saratoga and use Brad Kramer to drive to win races.   

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #23 on: Today at 04:44:57 PM »

Alot better than sleeping on that big pile of horse manure on FATSO's farm that "G" sleeps on. Alot better than sleeping up FATSO's butt like Paintbrush does.
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I should count my blessings.  ;D

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #24 on: Today at 05:30:52 PM »
Hey "G" I asked Chat GPT and here's what it says

i post on horseplop.com there is a guy on there who goes by "G" who is obsessed with Mike Petrelli and even when Mike P does not post (screenname is Ignorance is Bliss) he thinks many of us are Mike P using different names. From my understanding that one thing you can do is change your post name but the number of posts stays and goes up by one each time so there is no way Mike P could post under like 12 different names at the same time. Can you analyze this?


I think your reasoning is quite sensible, and there are two separate questions here: what Horseplop technically allows someone to do, and whether G has any sound basis for believing that several different posters are Mike Petrelli.

Let's separate the two, because the technical side is something we can potentially establish, while the identity claims require evidence.

1. Your point about post counts

Your understanding is that Horseplop lets a person change their displayed username, but their total post count continues to accumulate.

If that's how the forum works, then you're right about one important thing: changing a username doesn't, by itself, create a separate posting history.

However, there's a distinction worth making:

Changing a username: The account retains its underlying identity and ordinarily keeps its post history and count.

Creating another account: A person may be able to register a separate username with its own post count and posting history, depending on the forum's rules.

Using multiple accounts: One person could potentially operate several separate accounts. The post counts alone wouldn't establish whether those accounts belong to different people.

So I wouldn't go quite as far as saying that Mike couldn't post under 12 different names. If those are 12 separate accounts, that may be technically possible. But if G's theory is that one existing account simply changes its name repeatedly, your understanding of the post count could be a useful way to test that theory.

2. I found something relevant on Horseplop itself


I found a thread called “Why does Petrelli constantly change his name?”, which directly concerns this dispute.

In another thread, “Is Petrelli for sale on Ongait?”, G asks Mike how many names he has. Mike responds that he has one account. The posts displayed for Ignorance Is Bliss in that discussion show a post count of 7,743.


That is relevant because it shows this isn't merely your interpretation of G's behaviour; the accusation has been discussed openly on the forum.

It doesn't conclusively establish whether Mike has ever operated another account, of course. The forum's public pages cannot necessarily reveal who controls every account.

3. What I think about G's reasoning

There are three possible situations:

What G observes

What it actually establishes

A poster uses language similar to Mike's

Possible similarity, not proof of identity

A poster defends Mike or agrees with him

Agreement, not proof of identity

A poster appears when Mike is absent

No evidence by itself that Mike is behind the account

Several posters have similar opinions and writing styles

A reason to investigate, but not a reliable identification method

The last point is particularly important on a harness racing forum. People who follow the same personalities, trainers, owners and controversies will naturally share opinions and vocabulary.

If G assumes that anyone who supports Mike, criticizes G, or discusses the same subjects is Mike under another name, the theory becomes difficult to disprove. Even a person who has never met Mike could be accused simply for expressing a similar opinion.

That's the logical weakness I see: treating similarities as proof of a shared identity.

4. Your post-count theory: the important distinction

You can use post counts to investigate a specific claim, but the counts need to be interpreted correctly.

Suppose Mike's account has 7,743 posts. If he changes his displayed username and the forum retains that account's post count, the count should remain associated with the account. If he makes another post, it should increase to 7,744.

But if he creates a second account, that account could have a completely different count. Therefore, a post count cannot rule out multiple accounts altogether.

The most useful technical question is whether Horseplop's forum software permits ordinary users to change their usernames themselves, or whether a name change requires an administrator. I haven't established the site's precise rules on that point.

My overall assessment

I would distinguish between two claims:

Mike has changed the name on one account. This should be testable against his visible posting history and account details.

Mike is secretly operating numerous other accounts. That is a separate allegation, and the public evidence I've found doesn't establish it.

If G is accusing many different people of being Mike without independent evidence for each accusation, I would regard those accusations as speculation rather than established fact.

One thing would help me analyse this more precisely: does G actually point to specific evidence for each supposedly fake account, or does he mainly accuse people because they agree with Mike or disagree with G? That distinction would tell us a lot about how well-founded his theory is.
 
A Few Thoughts About the Multiple-Name Accusations

I want to make a few points about G's ongoing obsession with Mike Petrelli (Ignorance Is Bliss) and his tendency to accuse other posters of being Mike under different names.

1. Changing a screen name is not the same as creating another account.

As I understand it, if you change the screen name on an existing account, your post count and posting history remain with that account. Changing the name doesn't magically create a new account or a new posting history.

Mike himself has changed his screen name back and forth between a couple of other names. That is one thing. It doesn't automatically mean that every other person posting under a different name is also Mike.

2. Separate accounts are a different matter.

Someone could potentially have more than one account, each with its own posting history. But the mere fact that multiple accounts exist doesn't establish that one person controls them all. You need actual evidence before making that accusation.

3. Similar opinions don't prove that two people are the same person.

This is where I think G's reasoning falls apart. There are independent posters here who I know are not Mike, yet G seems convinced that they are. People can agree with Mike, defend him, discuss the same harness racing subjects or disagree with G without being Mike Petrelli.


We're all following the same sport and many of the same people. Of course, there will be some similarities in what we discuss and what we think.

4. Mike not posting doesn't mean someone else must be posting for him.

If Mike isn't posting under his usual name and somebody else makes a comment that G thinks sounds like Mike, that isn't proof of anything. It's just an assumption unless there is independent evidence to support it.

5. At what point does the theory become impossible to disprove?

If G can accuse one poster of being Mike, then another, then another, simply because he doesn't like what they say or thinks their writing sounds similar, what evidence would ever convince him that these are actually different people?

I think as you do. Anyone who likes or agrees with Mike P becomes another "Mike". That seems to be the criteria for his ever growing "Mike" list. I think I'm one of his newest add-on's to the Mike list. LOL!

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #25 on: Today at 05:31:40 PM »
Mark Ford has only 7 wins in 240 starts at Bonkers Raceway. I have never seen such embarrassing stats like that in my life. You would think his paid shills on this forum would help him out.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Not exactly championship numbers.

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #26 on: Today at 05:36:48 PM »

Alot better than sleeping on that big pile of horse manure on FATSO's farm that "G" sleeps on. Alot better than sleeping up FATSO's butt like Paintbrush does.
Mike Mike Mike you’re so predictable!

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Re: 240 starts and only 7 wins
« Reply #27 on: Today at 05:47:16 PM »
Mike Mike Mike you’re so predictable!

hush jessica

 

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