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Another Ohio Disgrace
« on: October 04, 2026, 03:37:57 PM »
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Over 1.7 million in purses and can't even handle 1 million. What a fucking embarrassment. The Meadowlands handles nearly 3 million with amateur races.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Ohio is a cesspool.

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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2026, 04:01:58 PM »
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Over 1.7 million in purses and can't even handle 1 million. What a fucking embarrassment. The Meadowlands handles nearly 3 million with amateur races.  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

Ohio is a cesspool.

With the exception of the Meadowlands and possibly Mohawk, name tracks which consistently cover the purses with the takeout from handle.

MIKE CAMPBELL

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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2026, 05:14:33 PM »
With the exception of the Meadowlands and possibly Mohawk, name tracks which consistently cover the purses with the takeout from handle.
Off the top of my head, Monticello, Northfield, Batavia, Hoosier, Saratoga.

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Re: Another Ohio Disgrace
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2026, 05:57:52 PM »
Hard to bet those Ohio short tracks


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Re: Another Ohio Disgrace
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2026, 06:01:39 PM »
Hard to bet those Ohio short tracks


Breeders crown will be a disaster

Their clubhouse is old. Crappy food
Clubhouse got renovated a bit
Not great, but it was a shithole
I never cared for it because its in the turn
Not sure about the food

Eat at Brew Brothers
I recommend making an early reservation
They might have food trucks on the patio in front of the clubhouse as well
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Re: Another Ohio Disgrace
« Reply #5 on: Today at 02:53:19 PM »
Off the top of my head, Monticello, Northfield, Batavia, Hoosier, Saratoga.

Is the handle greater purses or is the takeout greater than the purses at those tracks? Northfield makes sense. The rest are questionable.

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« Reply #6 on: Today at 03:40:23 PM »
If Saratoga and Batavia are covering I will kiss your ass on Main St in any city in the USA.

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« Reply #7 on: Today at 03:50:35 PM »
If Saratoga and Batavia are covering I will kiss your ass on Main St in any city in the USA.
You stupid non horsemen jerkoffs always forget the huge expense of maintaining their barn area.

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Re: Another Ohio Disgrace
« Reply #8 on: Today at 04:05:28 PM »
You stupid non horsemen jerkoffs always forget the huge expense of maintaining their barn area.

Your post makes no sense in connection with the post you replied to.  The point is most tracks are not covering the purses let alone the cost of actually operating the track. It is government HANDOUTS which are paying the purses.

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Re: Another Ohio Disgrace
« Reply #9 on: Today at 04:08:09 PM »
Your post makes no sense in connection with the post you replied to.  The point is most tracks are not covering the purses let alone the cost of actually operating the track. It is government HANDOUTS which are paying the purses.
Don't you mean casino handouts?

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« Reply #10 on: Today at 05:00:04 PM »
Percentage of casino revenue fills the purse fund, but doesn't handle and simulcasting revenue cover the expenses of opening the doors and hosting racing?
If handle doesn't cover the operating expenses then the owners have to go into their pockets.
So in theory the more a track handles the less they lose?

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« Reply #11 on: Today at 05:38:52 PM »
Percentage of casino revenue fills the purse fund, but doesn't handle and simulcasting revenue cover the expenses of opening the doors and hosting racing?
If handle doesn't cover the operating expenses then the owners have to go into their pockets.
So in theory the more a track handles the less they lose?
As someone who doesn't want to see any racetracks go under, especially The Meadowlands, I think the delicate dance between casinos, racetracks, and the state have lots of issues. I was at Plainridge yesterday. Very small crowd but some big races for big money. I'd wager, in all those big races with some of racings top drivers, the handle made it to $250,000  for the whole card.So the track depends on casino dollars and stae help. It's not ideal. But again, I don't want to see the tracks fold. Today, i'm at Foxwoods. Crowds are small here too! There is a big concern about the three casinos opening in NYC. One slot manager told me they expect a drop off of 25%-30% as players no longer have to drive/bus up to Foxwoods/Mohegan Sun for the action. So as the gambling pie gets divided even further, many tracks and casinos will face deep challenges to their business model.

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« Reply #12 on: Today at 05:44:53 PM »
As someone who doesn't want to see any racetracks go under, especially The Meadowlands, I think the delicate dance between casinos, racetracks, and the state have lots of issues. I was at Plainridge yesterday. Very small crowd but some big races for big money. I'd wager, in all those big races with some of racings top drivers, the handle made it to $250,000  for the whole card.So the track depends on casino dollars and stae help. It's not ideal. But again, I don't want to see the tracks fold. Today, i'm at Foxwoods. Crowds are small here too! There is a big concern about the three casinos opening in NYC. One slot manager told me they expect a drop off of 25%-30% as players no longer have to drive/bus up to Foxwoods/Mohegan Sun for the action. So as the gambling pie gets divided even further, many tracks and casinos will face deep challenges to their business model.

There's so much competition out there and only so much money to go around. Now add sports betting legal everywhere and the prediction sites. The gambling market is over saturated.

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« Reply #13 on: Today at 06:14:45 PM »
There's so much competition out there and only so much money to go around. Now add sports betting legal everywhere and the prediction sites. The gambling market is over saturated.
I agree. I'm surprised at the small crowds here at Foxwoods. Usually busy mid-week as ther give out so many free rooms to customers. I'm in the Tower section and many rooms are vacant. I can only imagine what will happen when the NYC casinos all open.

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« Reply #14 on: Today at 06:23:06 PM »
it confounds me that we have this discussion when nobody appears able to clearly define where the money to support racing comes from
handle/wagering
government
casino
any/all of the above

might be beneficial to have that information by state and then comment

fyi, i am not going to go over the economic multiplier effect of horse racing versus a casino, tried that already
also the USA debt is currently $36 trillion, a few bucks spent on horse racing matters, i think not

 

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