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Re: How to Improve Mohawk Product
« Reply #15 on: Today at 07:58:12 AM »
DEI hire, what a cracker POS to say

I thought the same thing. I’ll rephrase your statement a bit:

What a trumpian/maga/racist thing to say!

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« Reply #16 on: Today at 08:51:59 AM »
Jason Portuondo became a judge. Some nights he's judging the races you're wagering on. He's been at the the track since he was he was a kid. I used to rub one for his uncle, Maurice.

DEI hire, what a cracker POS to say

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Re: How to Improve Mohawk Product
« Reply #17 on: Today at 09:42:30 AM »
Randy is fine if he's the colour guy but you have to pair him with a gambler-centric figure. Nobody out there watching gives two fucks if a certain trainer is a good guy. Race office is a complete disaster, they haven't ever had a quality person and that's going back to Barry Hewson. They are just dumb and only got by because things were different from 1970-2005 with thousands of horses and 15 other tracks racing full cards as well. The new kid may be worse than Tony and that's saying something although Tony only took the gig to make ends meet not because he had any passion or thought he could fix the product. McClinchy is another great guy but other than ensuring he's out there every time a major milestone is reached, he's busy making sure nobody says a bad word about the product. The WEG board are invisible and always have been so don't expect that to change anytime soon. The food and beverage is beyond a hard pass. The judges are incompetent and don't give a fuck so there's no integrity which translates to the gambler not being protected. If you don't have that, you have nothing. Again, they are riddled with really nice guys like Dorion, Miller and Mike with Jason and Reid soon to be their replacements but nothing will change. They will just continue to collect their government paycheques. Ditto for Billy O, WEG personal replacement to Jimmy Whelan and basically a conduit to get the horsemen's association to rubber-stamp their agenda. How's that working out for the horsemen? I've been around long enough to known Tom Joy, have lunch with Charles Juravinski and have numerous calls with Flemming. There's an old saying that goes something like this: those that created the problem shouldn't have a seat at the table in trying to fix the problems. Unfortunately that's not the case and it's only going to get worse. Wish I had a more bullish take on things up there as it was always the gold standard for years.

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Re: How to Improve Mohawk Product
« Reply #18 on: Today at 09:44:14 AM »
Wow i just read many comments and i can not lie when reading i felt like this site has no real gamblers these days and was very unhappy in things i read and see no hope with these shocking posts that do not deal with issues,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,    I  wanted to read one comment about the late money or computer groups and read zero comments,,,,,,,,,,,,, No one is winning and that number makes it a stupid game and any overlay on the board is dead money and extremely low  value horses win way to often,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, i think i am wrong after reading this topic because you need hard core players to chime in and this site has none that i see,       The way the game is going now might help as everyone i know is quitting and this lets pretend its healthy can not go on forever and that be be good when they all lose their jobs,     James and Carmen and the boys are to me all crime bosses who think they are great for the game when they were their tuxedos to the O BRIENS,   its a B movie these days and the actors are making A list money.

as most here are aware, I have been saying this for years--- stop the betting after the race starts

limit the CAW from entering any pool with 1 minute until post time

put up on the feed how much of the pool is CAW(we know this wont happen)

eliminate all talking heads except for Randy speaking for 1-2 minutes about 5 minutes before the race starts

do not allow Elissa Blowe on air--she is worthless and adds no insight

eliminate all jackpot wagers

interviewing drivers before and after the race would be a good idea

stop the lag between races and race on time--if they say 6:15 PM then start the gate moving at 6:14

allow the worst horse in the race post #6 and the 2nd worst horse post #5
« Last Edit: Today at 09:54:23 AM by Papillon »

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Re: How to Improve Mohawk Product
« Reply #19 on: Today at 10:34:09 AM »
Randy is fine if he's the colour guy but you have to pair him with a gambler-centric figure. Nobody out there watching gives two fucks if a certain trainer is a good guy. Race office is a complete disaster, they haven't ever had a quality person and that's going back to Barry Hewson. They are just dumb and only got by because things were different from 1970-2005 with thousands of horses and 15 other tracks racing full cards as well. The new kid may be worse than Tony and that's saying something although Tony only took the gig to make ends meet not because he had any passion or thought he could fix the product. McClinchy is another great guy but other than ensuring he's out there every time a major milestone is reached, he's busy making sure nobody says a bad word about the product. The WEG board are invisible and always have been so don't expect that to change anytime soon. The food and beverage is beyond a hard pass. The judges are incompetent and don't give a fuck so there's no integrity which translates to the gambler not being protected. If you don't have that, you have nothing. Again, they are riddled with really nice guys like Dorion, Miller and Mike with Jason and Reid soon to be their replacements but nothing will change. They will just continue to collect their government paycheques. Ditto for Billy O, WEG personal replacement to Jimmy Whelan and basically a conduit to get the horsemen's association to rubber-stamp their agenda. How's that working out for the horsemen? I've been around long enough to known Tom Joy, have lunch with Charles Juravinski and have numerous calls with Flemming. There's an old saying that goes something like this: those that created the problem shouldn't have a seat at the table in trying to fix the problems. Unfortunately that's not the case and it's only going to get worse. Wish I had a more bullish take on things up there as it was always the gold standard for years.
GREAT POST,,,,,,,,,,RARE ON THIS SITE,,,    ALSO PAPS POST VERY GOOD,

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Re: How to Improve Mohawk Product
« Reply #20 on: Today at 11:37:34 AM »
Cut the CAWs off at 1 min to post

Get rid of the tbred commentators. Blowe and Bratt add NOTHING of substance at all. Rallis is a gambler, yet there he is on the Meadowlands broadcast.
Randy "ya know" Waples adds too much fluff. EVERONE is a great trainer....we get it.

Food and Beverage is a joke.

Run the races on time. People (and CAWs) will adjust in time. Saturday night went past midnight due to the Taurasi situation.
It's funny how the races are on time when it's snowing or raining.

Stop this nonsense about grading races. These aren't tbreds.
And what the hell is all this advertising the stakes schedule about. People who bet the product will bet. We don't need 5 reminders a night about the Fan Hanover date.
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Re: How to Improve Mohawk Product
« Reply #21 on: Today at 11:49:27 AM »
IMO There are some very good ideas so far in this thread. Hopefully the management there will catch wind of them!

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« Reply #22 on: Today at 11:49:52 AM »
lots of great comments and we all know they have been surfaced before and nothing changes
its a shit show and will continue to be one
from a gambling perspective a very easy fix is to improve the wagering product as follows
-the only $.20 wager should be on the pick 5 ( and i could easily maker it a minimum $.50)
-for the jackpot high 5 $.20 is fine but you have to pay of something to people who get the correct sequence and carry over the rest
-get rid of the swinger bet, stupidest wager ever
-minimum wager on pick 3 is $1
-minimum  wager of pick 4 is $.50
-minimum wager on tri is $.50
you get the idea, if people cant afford to wager they wont , but setting up your wagering menu to appeal to the "supposed" newbies who bet nothing while screwing over the real hard core gamblers is stupid

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« Reply #23 on: Today at 11:53:55 AM »
Great insight everyone! Honestly there are lots of great ideas, many should be implemented to help improve the product. I completely agree with shutting off the betting even when the countdown clocks get to 30 seconds, then you can see before the gate folds who’s likely to mess your pick 5 wager on one you left off the ticket.

I liked Jason Pirtuondo personally, good guy knows horses. It’s been said before but the horseplayers journal used to be great to read when Middleton Sr did it, Reid did a good job as well. The general public just likes getting more information, the more details the better.

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« Reply #24 on: Today at 12:05:57 PM »
Middleton is missed mostly but I'll acknowledge the Reid guy was very good as well. That new windbag Garnett sounds like a wanna be clown and although Jason is a nice guy with a little knowledge of the game, he's no sharpie. Nothing is going to change up there anytime soon. I mean they are still going with the swinger bet--how fucking dumb. Also their on air analysts with their $8 dollar pick 5 bets, what a dumpster fire.

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Re: How to Improve Mohawk Product
« Reply #25 on: Today at 03:11:20 PM »
ron wapples needs to be fired

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« Reply #26 on: Today at 04:21:07 PM »
Great insight everyone! Honestly there are lots of great ideas, many should be implemented to help improve the product. I completely agree with shutting off the betting even when the countdown clocks get to 30 seconds, then you can see before the gate folds who’s likely to mess your pick 5 wager on one you left off the ticket.

I liked Jason Pirtuondo personally, good guy knows horses. It’s been said before but the horseplayers journal used to be great to read when Middleton Sr did it, Reid did a good job as well. The general public just likes getting more information, the more details the better.

I remember the Journal when Mike Hamilton wrote it...he was the gold standard..with Reid a close 2nd..there was a guy  Paul Gangle I think his name was,,, terrible... moved to Australia i believe

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Re: How to Improve Mohawk Product
« Reply #27 on: Today at 05:22:07 PM »
I remember the Journal when Mike Hamilton wrote it...he was the gold standard..with Reid a close 2nd..there was a guy  Paul Gangle I think his name was,,, terrible... moved to Australia i believe

Hamilton was very good..but I feel Reid was simply outstanding--especially with horses shipping in from the B tracks

Barnsdale sometimes is way, way off but isn't the worst one they could have doing it

 

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