Top 10 out east swamp trainers . How many drug suspects?

[Sunmoon 1219]

Looking at years gone bye out east the names on top at the swamp don’t seem to be many with positive tests suspensions or a claim and launch barn . Thoughts on this years leaders as the year winds down .

[Wawajones]

Burke, Engblom, Alexander, Eckley, Bako, Dilloian, Oakes, Wisher, Bongiorno, Daley

[Sunmoon 1219]

I meant at the Meadowlands not the country .

[G]

Burke, Engblom, Alexander, Eckley, Bako, Dilloian, Oakes, Wisher, Bongiorno, Daley

you forgot Pelling and Crogan

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Burke, Engblom, Alexander, Eckley, Bako, Dilloian, Oakes, Wisher, Bongiorno, Daley

    All the winners are cheating?    Too funny!!

[Yonkers1A]

    All the winners are cheating?    Too funny!!

None of the winners are cheating, too funny 

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None of the winners are cheating, too funny 

    Any cheaters are gradually weeded out of this and every sport.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Pick a successful trainer's name, any trainer. There is probably somebody who is going to think that trainer is cheating. Cheating is a relative term. If you are racing on hay, oats, and water, then you are at a competitive disadvantage. Sad state of affairs, but the reality. Detention barn and out of competition testing should be the norm, and should be frequent/regular.

I can't think of a top trainer, a successful trainer, who has never had a positive test. Can you? Go way back in Meadowlands history. Larry/Ray Remmen, Jim Doherty, Lofty Bruce, Greg Wright, Howard Camden, Jack Friedhoff, Kelvin Harrison? Move on, Rovine/Holloway, Dave Elliott, Ben Webster, Ron Waples? Then Robinson, Artandi, Stutzman, George Anthony, Pelling, Croghan, Holloway? Today, Ake, Burke, Alagna, Moore, Linda Toscano? Keep going. For me, there's a big difference between a clenbuterol positive (slightly over the limit) and some designer, exotic drug that has zero place on the backstretch or farm. Who do you give a horse to today, before you get accused of using a "drug" trainer? Yes, I do think there should be owner accountability, but that leads to a very slippery slope.

[seen2much]

Burke is the obvious one. He beat all the ones arrested, learned from no real horseman, didn't grow up in the business, and never has a down year.
Pelling got a 10 year vacation. He came back & picked up where he left off.
Engblom has ridiculous success & his barn grew like all the ones before him.
Bongiorno clan went right into stardom. There was no learning curve. Check the family history and....
Ake has well bred horses & is highly regarded... but most think he cheats.
Takter was given a retirement for cheating.
There are many more. The results they have at the swamp are often less than other tracks.

[hoosierboy]

No competative trainer is sending them to post on only hay and oates

[pylon]

Pick a successful trainer's name, any trainer. There is probably somebody who is going to think that trainer is cheating. Cheating is a relative term. If you are racing on hay, oats, and water, then you are at a competitive disadvantage. Sad state of affairs, but the reality. Detention barn and out of competition testing should be the norm, and should be frequent/regular.

I can't think of a top trainer, a successful trainer, who has never had a positive test. Can you? Go way back in Meadowlands history. Larry/Ray Remmen, Jim Doherty, Lofty Bruce, Greg Wright, Howard Camden, Jack Friedhoff, Kelvin Harrison? Move on, Rovine/Holloway, Dave Elliott, Ben Webster, Ron Waples? Then Robinson, Artandi, Stutzman, George Anthony, Pelling, Croghan, Holloway? Today, Ake, Burke, Alagna, Moore, Linda Toscano? Keep going. For me, there's a big difference between a clenbuterol positive (slightly over the limit) and some designer, exotic drug that has zero place on the backstretch or farm. Who do you give a horse to today, before you get accused of using a "drug" trainer? Yes, I do think there should be owner accountability, but that leads to a very slippery slope.

i can think of one..Blair Burgess..i dont think he has ever gotten a positive

[Yonkers1A]

    Any cheaters are gradually weeded out of this and every sport.

Yes, then more take their place as the honest ones are forced out

[Grandstand Handicapper]

i can think of one..Blair Burgess..i dont think he has ever gotten a positive

Absolutely excellent thought. I have the utmost respect and admiration for Blair. I've sent him a horse before. More than once. I don't know if he has had a positive test. I never asked him. I will say one thing, even if he has, it wouldn't matter to me. I'd send him a horse any day, any time. Blair is the consummate professional. A true HOF'er and a class act.

[Meadow Ford]

Instead of guessing about positives, why not look the trainer up on Pathway?
Cost $0.00

[Sunmoon 1219]

The thread out east is current top 10 trainers. Doubtful some of these guys are cheats others not so sure.

1.Burke
2.Cullipher
3.Daley
4.Bongiorno
5.Height
6.Engblom
7.Silva
8.Svanstedt.
9.Posner /10. McKenzie.