Is Tony Done?

[Brkn Headpole]

Tony needs to start to be more of a businessman, cut his numbers back and get rid of the dead wood. He's not looking for overnight horses and that's what he's got now. The 2 farms has to be a big burden not just monetarily. I think his Ky property is far easier to sell than Tullo's, but the future is Ky not NJ. Long term he's going to be better off to get out of NJ. Even if he has to take a loss, better to bite the bullet now, He also doesn't train at Sunshine Meadows anymore, which was far less stressful and he had a audience that he doesn't have in NJ

I also think the pressure of producing top stakes juveniles leads to overclassificatio n. Pelling starts many in the TSS series or other grassroot programs until they develop and show they can go with the big dogs. Tony time  and again throws them to the wolves way too early and stunt their development. Whether its owners who want the recognition of racing in the big races, he's got to judge his stock more adeptly.

I see lines on a few horses who look like they have a bit of ability and only have 10k on their card when they might have 50-60k if they were managed better and find softer spots to make money.

[Fifty years plus]

Maybe focus a little more on profit rather than trophies.

[hoosierboy]

Maybe focus a little more on profit rather than trophies.

Agree

[Stan durbread]

Maybe focus a little more on profit rather than trophies.

Profit only means something to the owners that can’t afford to play at the top. Oh and Tony sold the KY farm long ago

[AgentQ]

Profit only means something to the owners that can’t afford to play at the top. Oh and Tony sold the KY farm long ago

Wealthy people have heathy egos, which is why they get i trouble to begin with but is also the reason they eventually exit the business. The only difference is their means: they simply can afford to get cracked for a cool million or more so their stay in the game in a little longer. Make no mistake, any owner playing the baby game, let alone with a guy like tony, is getting his head kicked in annually.

[Stan durbread]

Very few ever really get ahead when playing the baby game. But it doesn’t matter to most of them. Do you think they are ever gonna make money on their yacht or country club membership? Absolutely not but they still buy them. Best advice I ever received from an owner. I was sent a really small homebred that his top trainer didn’t want. First time I met the owner I said “hopefully I cagey him to the races and make you a little money “. He says don’t worry about my money just give him a chance and he will be what he is. A few months later he invited me to dinner. When he was showing me his brown Jug trophy he said “ do you know what I did with that purse check?” I said no, he said me either but every time I look at that trophy I remember that day and that is priceless

[pylon]

Very few ever really get ahead when playing the baby game. But it doesn’t matter to most of them. Do you think they are ever gonna make money on their yacht or country club membership? Absolutely not but they still buy them. Best advice I ever received from an owner. I was sent a really small homebred that his top trainer didn’t want. First time I met the owner I said “hopefully I cagey him to the races and make you a little money “. He says don’t worry about my money just give him a chance and he will be what he is. A few months later he invited me to dinner. When he was showing me his brown Jug trophy he said “ do you know what I did with that purse check?” I said no, he said me either but every time I look at that trophy I remember that day and that is priceless