Kentucky harness racing

[stanetelman]

Cumberland run gave out $1 million in purses and handled $60,000 for the 12 races!  Won't be long before the cries for decoupling will be heard.

[Sakit]

Kentucky will succeed in harness racing for quite some time

[kantseeback]

Kentucky will succeed in harness racing for quite some time

Anybody have stats for Thunder Ridge?

[Papillon]

Cumberland run gave out $1 million in purses and handled $60,000 for the 12 races!  Won't be long before the cries for decoupling will be heard.

this a highly incorrect viewpoint

the Commonwealth of Kentucky has passed legislation allocating extra millions for purse monies via the HHR--historical horse racing--a type of slot machine which shows replays of races from decades ago

that is why you see monstrous purses for Cumberland Run and Thunder Ridge....handle means nothing

have you seen the purses at Turfway, Ellis, Keeneland,Kentucky Downs,  Churchill recently?

Kentucky has embraced and invested in horse racing-both breeds

they are not looking to decouple

[Kenny]

Cumberland run gave out $1 million in purses and handled $60,000 for the 12 races!  Won't be long before the cries for decoupling will be heard.

The state of KY is buying harness racing.  It will be the only place left in the future. The only other winner might be Ohio. There will be lots of duel eligible horses racing in both programs.

[SIX SHOOTER]

WHATS THE REASON ON WHY THE RED MILE OVERNIGHTS RACE FOR PEANUTS BUT OAK GROVE ETC OVERNIGHTS ARE REALLY GOOD PURSES

[Papillon]

WHATS THE REASON ON WHY THE RED MILE OVERNIGHTS RACE FOR PEANUTS BUT OAK GROVE ETC OVERNIGHTS ARE REALLY GOOD PURSES

the law is written so the majority of the HHR profits are allocated to the KYSS and not so much the overnites

[JIDGE]

the law is written so the majority of the HHR profits are allocated to the KYSS and not so much the overnites

So the written law is different for Oak Grove and Cumberland Run?

[Papillon]

So the written law is different for Oak Grove and Cumberland Run?

yes

[The Exporter]

The amount of race dates has something to do with it.

[Kenny]

the law is written so the majority of the HHR profits are allocated to the KYSS and not so much the overnites

They want to attract breeding farms. Bring your mares to KY.

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Kentucky sire stakes, and in turn, harness racing, has had more than a resurgence considering in the 90's they (Sire Stakes) were virtually bankrupt. I think by the time 2000 came around the litigation was settled, but there was little to no money. Yes, a lot's happened, casinos, HHR, and so on, but today they are a very, very successful program and that allows there to be a lot benefits for horsemen, owners, etc. Perhaps there's an opportunity to expand while other parts, tracks, etc., contract.

[AgentQ]

If Kentucky doesn't do a good job with the betting end of things and controlling the nefarious trainers from setting up shop, it will suffer the same fate as Ontario and soon to be NY and NJ.

[pocketrocketwinner]

If Kentucky doesn't do a good job with the betting end of things and controlling the nefarious trainers from setting up shop, it will suffer the same fate as Ontario and soon to be NY and NJ.

No chance of them doing anything good with the betting end of things if they adopt any of the philosophies of the partner in Keeneland

[Calhoun]

No chance of them doing anything good with the betting end of things if they adopt any of the philosophies of the partner in Keeneland

Keeneland owns 5%. CDI 95%.

Churchill is a gaming first corporation that happens to own Kentucky Derby Day as well.

Nothing CDI does has a "racing first" approach.

Betting at Oak Grove is fairly meaningless.