I once loved harness racing

[tumbleweed]

Name another game where cheating is so openly and well entrenched by many that accepts parimutuel wagers.

Jai Alai

[NOTHING BUT TRUTHS]

I'm a lifer. Been in it since I was a teenager and worked my way through college. Betting has been my livelihood from day one. Then I began owning horses. But I have always been a fan, a bettor, and an owner (breeder). The sport is where it is today because everyone involved turned a deaf ear and a blind eye to the ever changing world. Think about the US steel industry (from the 60's to the 90's, and then through to today). The people in the industry (commercial breeding farms, for example) have also cannibalized it and themselves. The sport will not die. Neither will the industry. It will be reinvented and transformed, either by choice or by necessity. It will get worse before it gets better. The future will be less tracks, which will be part of a destination and entertainment offering, with casinos, poker, hospitality, retail, and other offerings for entertainment and the wagering dollar.

I don't think the new model will work nationwide. Under the current political landscape, it cannot work in CA. However, I think it will work in Toronto, NY, NJ, FL, and other places as well.

well said drew

[seen2much]

Faraldo & Ford have been around for many, many years. For them to be involved with cheating/banded trainers says it all. They don't get fired or resign from their positions. No one believes their excuses. The game is crooked from the top down, everyone knows it, & the game is ruined from a betting standpoint.

[richesskid]

I was once naive and joined the "game" because I was in awe of what these horses could do .  Then, the same as Misty I got more and more involved.  I wish I would've stayed on the outside where ignorance is bliss and I didn't see what greed can make people do

[kantseeback]

Jai Alai

I agree that a lot of games at the jai alai fronton seem fixed, especially those easy shot drops.
Racing has many more fans than jai alai and when jai alai starts faltering, they don't get state tax money. They just close up like Milford and Bridgeport jai alai in Connecticut did.

[Any1Left]

Misty Meadows, I waited a few days to read the comments and though they would really respond to your post and i am not talking horsemen as they have showed their colours for a long time,          Iwould bet money that last year and this  year combined did not pick up 10 gamblers across North America that are in the 20-30 range,    The NFL pro bowl has no crowd and no interest with the biggest stars in the game putting 40percent effort into the game and i see horse racing as a much less percentage as at most race tracks you might not see one race this year with 5 in and 5 out,       The powers in the game do not want to see this topic as it may drive away players and the truth is there are no players left and the people that play expect to lose as they have followed that pattern for their whole gamblng existance,    Bad racing with poor prices and drugged up horses with drivers that have zero respect for the game is not a winning formula for success and one of the few racetracks in years past being hoosier park might today be the biggest speed highway track in racing as management of that track has done a super horrible job as that track looks like a single file version of Pompano a place when given the breeders crown produced what i call the worst race in harness history as no horse on that day was loosing on the lead and JC was well awhere  of the extreme bias and knew that get to the front and its over.   Misty no one will look to help you as every one is bad news when it comes to saving this game and Frank Sirpico looking to do the right thing and catch the bad guys has never happened and never will,  How is it possible that years ago a horse like Saunders Alpine lobbel GB was huge odds in his first race and got beat by a huge ammount and one week later he dropped from double didget with 3 minutes to post and paid 4-5 and the CPMA never saw this happen and that is one out of thousands of examples of an industry with no law and no leaders that care.

[Any1Left]

Grandstand you may be right about harness racing not going away as i remember the early days from the movie BEN HUR as i loved that in those days every one was aggressive with no holes and the bikes added for alot of excitement. Now those were great days with excited crowds

[Chessington]

If decoupling isn’t the final nail in the coffin, the fact is that harness racing gamblers for the most part are old and dying and not being replaced. Based on how horrible the sport/ business has become, there are zero reasons to think anything will change to attract new fans and bettors.

[Any1Left]

it is getting very hard to post due to health reasons but i did not even know there was a small base of people going is  to the JUG and that says a lot to me how you can be mistreated abused and still be a fan,    But one thing i am sure of that no large bettors will be there and the crowd will be very old.     The crew doing the colour work will be jolly as they collect their undeserving paycheck,  It would nice to see that asian kid get a shot as to me he is the only good young talent in media who does not suck up but does his job

[Harness racer]

Edison does a nice job!   JWR would also be good on the broadcast.  Those two would be worth a watch. 

[RoyOrbinson]

People know the difference between a trainer and a chemist trainers don’t do interviews

[Pacer 2]

I once loved harness racing and I still do!

[Any1Left]

WOW,.   PACER loves the game,   WONDERFUL.   He stopped making movies the last movie he was in was a legandary film,  THE GRINCH WHO STOLE CHRISTMAS AND NEVER RETURNED,

[Any1Left]

Ive read this ladys post and its all useless posts talking bout a problem with out thinking drugs drugs drugs and that is not a problem,     Many years ago lived AL CAPONE and he paid off everyone from COPS to Congress PEOPLE and it went on for a long time till an honest cop showed up called J EDGER HOOVER and one by one everybody went down,     In any business if things dont add up and money goes missing they dont  let it go on forever and quickly put an end to the coruption and now here is the key that in horse racing the cheating and stealing is as bad as it can go but the cops dont see it and that is self explanitory,   They cant go honest these days as it will not explain every wrong decision made,   And here is the truth on this site its horsemen and you guys dont give a shit

[Misty meadows]

You’re absolutely right. It’s the horseman and they don’t care.   In my opinion on this site 75% are disgruntled gamblers. Can’t you for 1 lousy week go without betting.  Pretend the track you go to is closed don’t bet for 1 week. Let the handle for The meadowlands be zero. And all tracks around the USA Don’t bet for 1 week stick together as horseploppers and changes will be made   When the owners of tracks get no handle. Like asshole gural changes will be made !!!! From these criminals