KRATOM

[DEBBIE DOES]

How many trainers use this? I bet it gets through the box.

[SwankToliverA]

As far as I know there isn't a test even for humans, that can detect Kratom.
It certainly helps with pain among other things, when using Legitimate Kratom sourced properly.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

How many trainers use this? I bet it gets through the box.

I bet it doesn't 

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/iowa-trainer-testifies-he-accidentally-spilled-class-1-substance-into-feed/

https://paulickreport.com/nl-list/new-york-harness-trainer-suspended-indefinitely-four-horses-test-positive-kratom


11/06/2024   IR   POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
  Mitragynine (KRATOM)
  (Class 1)
Rule 4120.4 and 4120.5 On October 22, 2024, the New York Drug Testing and Research Program reported to the New York State Gaming Commission the post-race blood sample #CV3621872 and post-race urine sample #CV3621875, submitted by the horse MACH`S DELI, 2nd place finisher in race#2 on September 30, 2024, at Monticello Raceway, contained the presence of Mitragynine. Pursuant to New York State Gaming Rules 4120.4 and 4120.5, trainer Nancy Montembeault is hereby fined the sum of $5,000.00 and suspended for 365-days. Further MACH`S DELI is declared disqualified from said race and all purse earnings shall be returned and redistributed to the appropriate finishers and must re-test negative for Mitragynine prior to being eligible to race. During the term of their suspension, trainer Nancy Montembeault is denied access to all course and grounds under the jurisdiction of the New York State Gaming Commission.   Fined: $ 5,000
Full - 365 days 11/15/2024 thru 11/14/2025
Horse  Disqualified - Placed 8 , Purse Redistribution:

[Ilovethisgame]

Yes, testing for kratom is  VERY possible

Mitragynine and 7-hydroxymitragynine can be detected in blood or urine using techniques like LC-MS/MS (liquid chromatography–mass spectrometry).  Using it is russian roulette. Its a matter of when not if .  The sad part is the product has caused hundreds of deaths in humans

[SwankToliverA]

I bet it doesn't 

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/iowa-trainer-testifies-he-accidentally-spilled-class-1-substance-into-feed/

https://paulickreport.com/nl-list/new-york-harness-trainer-suspended-indefinitely-four-horses-test-positive-kratom


11/06/2024   IR   POSITIVE TEST- POST RACE
  Mitragynine (KRATOM)
  (Class 1)
Rule 4120.4 and 4120.5 On October 22, 2024, the New York Drug Testing and Research Program reported to the New York State Gaming Commission the post-race blood sample #CV3621872 and post-race urine sample #CV3621875, submitted by the horse MACH`S DELI, 2nd place finisher in race#2 on September 30, 2024, at Monticello Raceway, contained the presence of Mitragynine. Pursuant to New York State Gaming Rules 4120.4 and 4120.5, trainer Nancy Montembeault is hereby fined the sum of $5,000.00 and suspended for 365-days. Further MACH`S DELI is declared disqualified from said race and all purse earnings shall be returned and redistributed to the appropriate finishers and must re-test negative for Mitragynine prior to being eligible to race. During the term of their suspension, trainer Nancy Montembeault is denied access to all course and grounds under the jurisdiction of the New York State Gaming Commission.   Fined: $ 5,000
Full - 365 days 11/15/2024 thru 11/14/2025
Horse  Disqualified - Placed 8 , Purse Redistribution:

I find this very interesting. As someone who uses Kratom and is subject to random drug testing, I have never failed one. I was unaware of any positives and its my own fault for not researching it when Jenny brought the topic up before commenting.  I should have known there was a reason it was questioned.
Thank You Mike.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

I find this very interesting. As someone who uses Kratom and is subject to random drug testing, I have never failed one. I was unaware of any positives and its my own fault for not researching it when Jenny brought the topic up before commenting.  I should have known there was a reason it was questioned.
Thank You Mike.

[DEBBIE DOES]

thats interesting. oi wonder if they test for it everytime.

[Papillon]

I find this very interesting. As someone who uses Kratom and is subject to random drug testing, I have never failed one. I was unaware of any positives and its my own fault for not researching it when Jenny brought the topic up before commenting.  I should have known there was a reason it was questioned.
Thank You Mike.

just curious--why are you using Kratom?

[SwankToliverA]

just curious--why are you using Kratom?

Arthritis in my spine.  It's more effective for me than anything else.
I am subject to extensive tox screens and haven't ever failed one, thats why this is surprising to me.

[Papillon]

Arthritis in my spine.  It's more effective for me than anything else.
I am subject to extensive tox screens and haven't ever failed one, thats why this is surprising to me.

thanks for answering a personal question like that

i am glad it works for you

Kratom is probably not on the list of drugs they are screening for

[Kirbys Ace]

Mix that with some BB3 and BINGO,,,Got a Firecracker old pacer! 

hmmmmmmm

[DEBBIE DOES]

i dont think it shows on a regular panel. i could be wrong.

[SwankToliverA]

thanks for answering a personal question like that

i am glad it works for you

Kratom is probably not on the list of drugs they are screening for

You're welcome

[SwankToliverA]

i dont think it shows on a regular panel. i could be wrong.

Probably not but i am subject to a 12 panel test.
It also may depend on who its purchased from, as not all Kratom is legit.
I buy directly from the manufacturer and have for over a decade, less than a mile from home.

[Eight Hole Again]

just curious--why are you using Kratom?

Just to clarify: you say you never had a positive test. Do you mean the medication never shows up at all or it shows up at a therapeutic level? If it showed up as being therapeutic, you would not be considered positive for over-dose.