Author Topic: Bullying in Broad Daylight: Jeff Gural Strong-Arms SBOANJ to Fund Meadowlands’ B  (Read 8878 times)

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Harness Racing Revolution

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Linked in this post on Facebook is the Case Jacket including the pdf. files of all the depositions.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1DtNipfB3C/
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John Campbell himself makes it clear the SBOANJ didn't make a fucking PENNY on sponsorships. Spent $200k of members money with ZERO return. NOT A PENNY.




Do you think with even the 200k Jeff made money hosting the Breeders Crown? NO! He just lost less. He and the SBOANJ did it to promote harness racing in NJ. You might think it was a bad investment but considering your bank account and Jeff’s I’ll take his side.

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Where does the SBOA NJ get this type of money? It can't be from membership.

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Where does the SBOA NJ get this type of money? It can't be from membership.

Been around since 1961. It's not just memberships. Just go to their website. The money is there. Doesn't mean it's money they should flush down the toilet. Can you imagine the Breeders Crown doesn't take in over 250k in sponsorship? Embarrassing.
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Papillon

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You know when you realize that's it's time to put down a pet?
I get a similar feeling about the meadowlands. It is time to permanently put it out of its misery

this is an excellent analogy

10 years ago, Gural thought he a 1/9 favorite to get a casino-not knowing how NJ politics work

if he could turn back the hands of time, he would have not got involved at all

"Savior" -as many think he really is--is getting exposed little by little

pumping blood infusions into an industry with severe internal bleeding is not going to work--and "Savior" is finding out the hard way--because he is paying for the infusions out of his own pocket

wiseowl

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This is 2025 the Breeder Crown for 2022 is over why you post this stupid shit.

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I guess the millions he has shelled out of his own pocket to fund races and various upgrades to the plant don't count. When are you morons going to understand he is running a business and his main objective like every other business owner on planet Earth is to make as much profit as possible. If you don't like the way he runs things, don't bet there and or don't race there.

Yes but when your a BILLIONAIRE and you buy a business that is failing you try and fix then move the fuck on.  If you don't move on then you say "it's my hobby and i can afford this as entertainment" - You don't keep bitching year after year about losing money.  If it's so bad why doesn't El Jeffy sell?  WHY? Because the greedy bastard has his money backed at 110% by the state and IF he gets a casino license he essentially bought a casino worth BILLIONS for 17 Million (his last account of what he personally has put up)

So if so horribly bad and you want out Jeff then sell out your shares for 20 Million and make a nice tidy 3 Million and walk away.  You won't because your greedy scumbag that is looking to make a ton of money at the expense of the horseman. 

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This is 2025 the Breeder Crown for 2022 is over why you post this stupid shit.

Because this whole case was over the 2021 Crown.  Jeffy boy agreed to front all the money in 2019 then backed out in 2021 and threatened everyone at the 11th hour to pull plug unless they all voted to take the 200K from SBOAJ - scumbag dictator

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Yes but when your a BILLIONAIRE and you buy a business that is failing you try and fix then move the fuck on.  If you don't move on then you say "it's my hobby and i can afford this as entertainment" - You don't keep bitching year after year about losing money.  If it's so bad why doesn't El Jeffy sell?  WHY? Because the greedy bastard has his money backed at 110% by the state and IF he gets a casino license he essentially bought a casino worth BILLIONS for 17 Million (his last account of what he personally has put up)

So if so horribly bad and you want out Jeff then sell out your shares for 20 Million and make a nice tidy 3 Million and walk away.  You won't because your greedy scumbag that is looking to make a ton of money at the expense of the horseman.

excellent tmbz1

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Yes but when your a BILLIONAIRE and you buy a business that is failing you try and fix then move the fuck on.  If you don't move on then you say "it's my hobby and i can afford this as entertainment" - You don't keep bitching year after year about losing money.  If it's so bad why doesn't El Jeffy sell?  WHY? Because the greedy bastard has his money backed at 110% by the state and IF he gets a casino license he essentially bought a casino worth BILLIONS for 17 Million (his last account of what he personally has put up)

So if so horribly bad and you want out Jeff then sell out your shares for 20 Million and make a nice tidy 3 Million and walk away.  You won't because your greedy scumbag that is looking to make a ton of money at the expense of the horseman.

We've all witnessed his tantrums and tirades when he doesn't get his way. On this occasion I think I know what he was trying to prove. It wasn't about the money, it was about he's done. So be done then, don't start coercing others into manipulating money he has no right to. I believe it's bordering on ILLEGAL. We'll see in August.
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Why should Gural be OK with losing money just because he is a billionaire? I never heard or read something so stupid in my life. That is the problem with Harness Racing. If you don't offer welfare or charity, you are a scumbag. I guarantee he hasn't made a dime since he took over M1 and you douchebags are all bashing him because the gravy train is slowing down. Name another racetrack owner that has done more for the horsemen and the sport than he has. YOU CAN'T!! You're all idiots.

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Gural has so much money he will never spend it all and you jerks think he needs money know what your talking about before you post,

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Gural has so much money he will never spend it all and you jerks think he needs money know what your talking about before you post,
Why should Gural be OK with losing money just because he is a billionaire? I never heard or read something so stupid in my life. That is the problem with Harness Racing. If you don't offer welfare or charity, you are a scumbag. I guarantee he hasn't made a dime since he took over M1 and you douchebags are all bashing him because the gravy train is slowing down. Name another racetrack owner that has done more for the horsemen and the sport than he has. YOU CAN'T!! You're all idiots.

Problem here is he crossed a line forcing the SBOANJ to pay. If he really wanted to teach them a lesson, cancel the Breeders Crown. Read what Campbell says, they didn't even break the 250k threshold in sponsorships so that the SBOANJ would get half of every dollar over that. More proof the game is DEAD. He couldn't even tell the attorney how many people attend the BC, they don't even take a count. I sat right next to him when he told me "I hope it fucking dies tomorrow". No matter how much good you've done, you can't threaten and it's in the depositions. If Mark Ford was a MAN and protected the people he uses, he would have said NO. I also thought just 200k? There's 12 members on the board, all of whom are millionaires, right? $16,666 each and there's your 200k. I agree with you that NEVER will horsemen reach in their pockets to pay for anything. Jeff said they are "indoctrinated welfare recipients with no leadership". And this was after this thing went down. Looking back I am sure he meant this case too.
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I guess the millions he has shelled out of his own pocket to fund races and various upgrades to the plant don't count. When are you morons going to understand he is running a business and his main objective like every other business owner on planet Earth is to make as much profit as possible. If you don't like the way he runs things, don't bet there and or don't race there.

I have some outstanding news for you and everyone at the meadowlands.

I bet zero dollars there last saturday night

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Now, a different perspective here. See this list? These people had a hand in too. Exactly what is it these people do? Their own President states in deposition HE HAS NO FUCKING IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTEND THE BREEDERS CROWN and THEY ONLY ESTIMATE THE HAMBO!!!! Yet beg for money and sponsorships??? First thing a sponsor wants to know is how many fucking people will see their ad! Most importantly, and this is a FACT. There are names on this list that are also in Equestology invoices buying BB3 and every other Fishman garbage he was selling! Can you name them????
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