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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #150 on: June 05, 2025, 03:23:06 PM »
At Saratoga today and the folks I chat with, most think Sovereignty with the 5 week break will win. Journalism and Baeza have their fans. But the majority like the Derby Winner. It's pretty surprising that very few people even mention the rest of the field. LOL!
     
    3 races in 5 weeks make Journalism a question mark for me. Plus Sovereignty beat him anyway when rested.

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #151 on: June 06, 2025, 01:20:07 AM »
Just because he beat him last time by less than a length doesn't mean he's going to beat him this time. The crop of 3-year-olds is decent, but far from great, it's the kind of group where horses may take turns beating each other.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2025, 01:23:03 AM by Scooteroo »

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« Reply #152 on: June 06, 2025, 10:03:04 AM »
Just because he beat him last time by less than a length doesn't mean he's going to beat him this time. The crop of 3-year-olds is decent, but far from great, it's the kind of group where horses may take turns beating each other.
 
       They may or may not!    ngc3 Chances are he beats him again....

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #153 on: June 06, 2025, 10:04:27 AM »
 
       They may or may not!    ngc3 Chances are he beats him again....

When will you tell us how Secretariat's vet treated him???  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #154 on: June 06, 2025, 10:50:08 AM »
 
       They may or may not!    ngc3 Chances are he beats him again....

It doesn't matter to me if he does or not, because I'm probably not betting either one of them or the race at all. I think harness horses as a whole are more consistent than T-Breds because they run more often & keep their form in between starts. When you're a top T-Bred and only running every 4-6 weeks who knows which version will show up?
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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #155 on: June 06, 2025, 10:59:54 AM »
When will you tell us how Secretariat's vet treated him???  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
      WTF are you talking about?   1973???   TOO FUNNY MORON!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #156 on: June 06, 2025, 11:02:34 AM »
      WTF are you talking about?   1973???   TOO FUNNY MORON!   ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3 ngc3

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #157 on: June 06, 2025, 11:07:56 AM »
Oh, so you admit you're too fucking scared to say who you are? Exactly.  tmbz1
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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #158 on: June 06, 2025, 11:09:47 AM »
Meanwhile, your "industry" lives off welfare. The flats THRIVE!!! And kill even more horses than you do!!!
https://pge.post-gazette.com/.pf/showstory/202505280035/3

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« Reply #159 on: June 06, 2025, 12:07:25 PM »
Meanwhile, your "industry" lives off welfare. The flats THRIVE!!! And kill even more horses than you do!!!
https://pge.post-gazette.com/.pf/showstory/202505280035/3

     When do you get off welfare?? ngc3 ngc3

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #160 on: June 06, 2025, 12:51:35 PM »
Baeza, Sovereignty and Journalism in that order. Loved Baeza in the Derby and came a little bit short of making me some nice money from a bad post. Didn't like Soverignty before and still don't like him, but am lot is being asked of Journalism.

Can't see how at least two of the three don't make the trifecta so I am going to look to Pick Threes and Doubles

Good luck to everyone!

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #161 on: June 06, 2025, 01:49:59 PM »
Sovereignty is 7/2 right now

I dont think he will be the favorite

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #162 on: June 06, 2025, 03:55:26 PM »
Papillon.....that's a super price!

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #163 on: June 06, 2025, 04:27:39 PM »
I just checked, there's $700,000 in the win pool as of 4:00 PM on Friday, which is a drop in the bucket considering the win pool might end up being 20 million or so. I still think you'll get 3-1 on Sovereignty.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2025, 04:29:18 PM by Scooteroo »

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Re: Early Belmont Stakes thoughts
« Reply #164 on: June 06, 2025, 04:37:52 PM »
Big crowd here at Saratoga. Almost everyone has an opinion. In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if they are 2-1 Co-favorites at Post Time.

 

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