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This is why I laugh at these cunts here. Shit like this never happened back then, know why? None of them would DARE FUCKING SAY anything they do here to anyone's face. Back then I learned more in that one meet from those people about everything in the business than the years following combined. Real horsemen, businessmen, wiseguys, good guys, you name it. John told me he didn't say it just cause Stevie was his kid, but he drove with a pair of basketballs. They didn't have much when I was there, didn't drive a lot then. I learned from Randy, he had a poultice I HATED because before going to the paddock I had to get this stuff off. But it was his concoction that used seaweed and that filly's legs were drum tight ice cold. One day Stevie said wanna take a ride he needed a hand. Had to move furniture off a truck into Joe DeFranks condo in Harmon Cove from Garden State. Yes of course, so we go get it done no biggie. Couple days later Joe DeFrank calls me into the race office "why do I remember 223" but over PA said please come to race office. I wasn't racing had the one horse and was a groom under Louie. I'm a kid and shitting my pants what did I do. I stop at his receptionist, walk in after knocking "like you're supposed to". He's behind his desk, I remember all the wooden bookshelves. I introduce myself, he stands up shakes my hand. Say Johnnie Torre told me you helped Stevie with my furniture I wanted to thank you. AND, if you ever need anything you come see me. Told me come back he'll have tickets for the Meadowlands Grand Prix for me. I thanked him up and down. RESPECT. And I was in fucking awe too. That's what I mean when I say I love the sport and the history, but hate NOW and the industry today. Those times will never come back. Ever. And the scumbags of the game have a new clubhouse to hide too, here. Three years not one has approached me. But I'm glad and appreciate knowing I got to experience the best of the best for a while and learned from that, not this.
How do you make such bold comments on somebody you never met?
I actually can’t disagree with you. Joe was a great guy old school I meant what he said.
Who is Stevie? Steve Torre?
Whom are you talking about?
I'll put aside your detest for this too. Joe made THE MEADOWLANDS what it was. Him and Sonny Werblin. This thing there is in East Rutherford now is a fucking embarrassment.
I agree with the first part of your statement I disagree with the last part I think Mr. Gural is doing his best.
Not trashing him. He tried. But he's done. I am not lying when I tell you what he told me the night we met in that conference room two years ago. "I hope it fucking does tomorrow". He had enough with being shook down and berated by the horsemen when he was doing all he could to keep the place going. So what it is now isn't his fault. It's a fucking sideshow. I'm sure he would prefer to have a full grandstand and apron filled with people who love harness racing.
I give him credit if it wasn't for him there would be no harness racing in New Jersey it wouldn't be the end of the world if that place shut down as it's a shell of what it once was. Kentucky is going to be the place to race. I agree with you when Joe DeFrank left the Meadowlands went downhill.
I got you here. It's not that he's supporting Rolla, that's not the issue. Same as the lefttards despise Trump. This fucking cunt who comes across like he knows "everything" and will never post his true identity. Someone who he says never met me yet HATES me. Isn't supporting Rolla, he's supporting anyone who is my opposition. Like the criminal Larry Rolla. That's fucking sad.
Whats really sad is your childlike language and behavior!
Your name? Exactly.
I never not gave him credit. Place would have been a parking lot for Met Life if not for him. And for the most part the horsemen never appreciated it and hates how he runs the show. In the end it is his playground and he can do as he pleases. The alternative now is NO harness racing in New Jersey. Then what. He wants a casino. Horsemen accuse him of being selfish and only about money. Well wtf not it's HIS MONEY. That's why I am so over the welfare. No appreciation and fact is without the subsidies the industry is dead. They think if he got a casino every fucking penny should go to them. It's sickening.
