What are the breeders doing to help the sport?

[Harness Racing Revolution]

Yes, I think the breeders are a big part of the problem.

https://youtu.be/MfzFyntMw4c?si=1GnIguD-CL9-H9Yv

[Chessington]

On one hand, the current business model and landscape for a commercial breeder (in the ideal world) is to sell big money yearlings, have the buyers of those yearlings make big money as a 2yo's, come back to the next year's sale, and start the cycle all over again, LOL. Then they create stallions, retire them, syndicate, etc. It keeps the money-making machine for the breeders. On the other hand, they "could" do more to keep horses racing past their 3yo year. But they really can't. They won't. It's counterintuitive and counterproductive to their business model. Now if the tracks, the Hambletonian Society, the BC, and so on-----if they could start to allocate more money toward 3yo's and slowly start to do the same for aged horses, then you have a segment that can counter the breeders. Someone has to start somewhere.

There is no one thing that is going to resolve all of the sport and industry's struggles. Starting with PED's, illegal drugs, chemists, cheats, etc., is a good place to start. Throwing out the garbage is most often a good place to start no matter what you're talking about, LOL. So many other issues are like cutting off one of Hydra's heads! LOL.

If all the trainers using illegal drugs, bearding and cheating, no track could fill the box!

[Grandstand Handicapper]

It's not all. Listen, while very, very few are racing on hay, oats, and water, therapeutic drugs have a place in the sport. They have cut off times. I am talking about the guys who are using drugs that have zero place in the sport. Zero tolerance doesn't have to be like the "wellness" policy in the WWE, LOL.

[Harper]

It's not all. Listen, while very, very few are racing on hay, oats, and water, therapeutic drugs have a place in the sport. They have cut off times. I am talking about the guys who are using drugs that have zero place in the sport. Zero tolerance doesn't have to be like the "wellness" policy in the WWE, LOL.

Isn't it interesting that over the last decade the Yonkers leading trainers have either been suspended or jailed for drugs? Banca, Allard, Dowse, Emblom. Who have I left off the list?

[Grandstand Handicapper]

And I think that's a very good thing. I think more should be done. Throw more of them in jail.

[Yonkers1A]

All that I am saying that the government, federal,state and local, give out “welfare” to many businesses. You act like novel to harness racing. There are studies which I am sure you know, show that in some states the money given by the government is returned in spades to the job creation and economic impact it has for the state.

The Feds gave out 37.000,000,000,000 and now what is it 25% of the budget pays the interest and my Grandchildren will be paying this off for years

[Pacer 2]

When harness racing goes away, the biggest losers will be the breeders. They do a great job promoting themselves to sell yearlings but what are they doing to help the industry survive?

    When is harness racing going away?   I've been hearing that nonsense for 35 years!   

[Brown jug]

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breeders help the sport by providing the best bred, best conformed yearlings that can be bought to try and win races and money, they supply the product the sport requires

[Harness Racing Revolution]

Isn't it interesting that over the last decade the Yonkers leading trainers have either been suspended or jailed for drugs? Banca, Allard, Dowse, Emblom. Who have I left off the list?

Pena was tossed, Sumner was tossed, Madeiros was tossed when they figured out he was beard for Sumner.

[Harness Racing Revolution]

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breeders help the sport by providing the best bred, best conformed yearlings that can be bought to try and win races and money, they supply the product the sport requires

Yep, they take the money the state hands them to create the animals that are used to take even more and then they kill them. 

[The Answer]

Yep, they take the money the state hands them to create the animals that are used to take even more and then they kill them. 

Again you over exaggerate the problem with horse racing. An overwhelming majority of horses of all breeds are taken better care of than American kids in our inner cities. Absolutely some end up in kill pens and don’t live the best later life but that’s the minority. Go visit your local low income nursing home or Section 8 housing in Harlem and report back how they are doing.

[rainman2]

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breeders help the sport by providing the best bred, best conformed yearlings that can be bought to try and win races and money, they supply the product the sport requires

Don't the bigger breeders keep their best ones and sell the others!

Done in the past!

Still done today?

Rumor has it they send out people to upbid their horses at auction too!

[Chessington]

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breeders help the sport by providing the best bred, best conformed yearlings that can be bought to try and win races and money, they supply the product the sport requires

They do NOTHING to promote the sport, just their own product.

[Papillon]

Breeders stare at the clock like the bettors do

thats why they dont want to crackdown on gassers/juicers

faster times equate to higher sales prices

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Everybody is the business knows it's not a fair and efficient market. Christie's and Sotheby's, LOL. Every farm wants to sell big money yearls, and wants top, winning trainers to buy them. They do what they can to make that happen. And the bus keeps rolling down the road, LOL.