Brother Claims Brother Son's Horse

[Dave McNeight Jr]

Howard Oriel, aka talkstohisself and half a dozen other alter ego pen names you use on this forum to LITERALLY, talk to yourself. Your hatred for me is evident in all your ridiculous statements. Facts being HOWARD, you had horses with me that you made alot of money with. The problem wasnt the care your horses received, you always complimented me for the work we did and the care your horses got. And it showed on the track and off. You posted, your words, the biggest mistake you ever made in this business was hiring me. Fact is HOWARD i never trained a horse for you. All the Oriel horses i trained were for your brother Mike. All the horses that you owned were with another trainer. And the reason you left was because i refused to ask my son to line them up, and give them holes, and outright cheat because you had multiple horses in many races..you also expected my son to drive soft against your other horses when he drove horses that you didnt even own..your a clown, a liar, and ive never heard one good word said about you from anyone ever..but you do have money..so when all your "friends" are full or drunk enough from the bill that you always pick up you sit on this forum and bash people that eat away at YOUR soulless heart..you are nothing but a lonely old hypocrite..i will never explain to you my choices of claims or whom i claim from or if i changed shoes or hopples. Its none of your fucking business. You should try mind your own business for once, Howard you have alot of skeletons in your closet, tend to them..

[talkstohisself]

I am not howard read my post  I  talk about two people on this forum u and trump let's talk about the race were you had your boy parked the other horse  the one that did the parking came back welted up u want around bragging how u know how to get even with people so stick that in your toolbox   ps I met your son  very nice kid,  but the bible says you pay for the sins of your father.

Howard Oriel, aka talkstohisself and half a dozen other alter ego pen names you use on this forum to LITERALLY, talk to yourself. Your hatred for me is evident in all your ridiculous statements. Facts being HOWARD, you had horses with me that you made alot of money with. The problem wasnt the care your horses received, you always complimented me for the work we did and the care your horses got. And it showed on the track and off. You posted, your words, the biggest mistake you ever made in this business was hiring me. Fact is HOWARD i never trained a horse for you. All the Oriel horses i trained were for your brother Mike. All the horses that you owned were with another trainer. And the reason you left was because i refused to ask my son to line them up, and give them holes, and outright cheat because you had multiple horses in many races..you also expected my son to drive soft against your other horses when he drove horses that you didnt even own..your a clown, a liar, and ive never heard one good word said about you from anyone ever..but you do have money..so when all your "friends" are full or drunk enough from the bill that you always pick up you sit on this forum and bash people that eat away at YOUR soulless heart..you are nothing but a lonely old hypocrite..i will never explain to you my choices of claims or whom i claim from or if i changed shoes or hopples. Its none of your fucking business. You should try mind your own business for once, Howard you have alot of skeletons in your closet, tend to them..

[batavia24]

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[Foalin at 4]

Howard Oriel, aka talkstohisself and half a dozen other alter ego pen names you use on this forum to LITERALLY, talk to yourself. Your hatred for me is evident in all your ridiculous statements. Facts being HOWARD, you had horses with me that you made alot of money with. The problem wasnt the care your horses received, you always complimented me for the work we did and the care your horses got. And it showed on the track and off. You posted, your words, the biggest mistake you ever made in this business was hiring me. Fact is HOWARD i never trained a horse for you. All the Oriel horses i trained were for your brother Mike. All the horses that you owned were with another trainer. And the reason you left was because i refused to ask my son to line them up, and give them holes, and outright cheat because you had multiple horses in many races..you also expected my son to drive soft against your other horses when he drove horses that you didnt even own..your a clown, a liar, and ive never heard one good word said about you from anyone ever..but you do have money..so when all your "friends" are full or drunk enough from the bill that you always pick up you sit on this forum and bash people that eat away at YOUR soulless heart..you are nothing but a lonely old hypocrite..i will never explain to you my choices of claims or whom i claim from or if i changed shoes or hopples. Its none of your fucking business. You should try mind your own business for once, Howard you have alot of skeletons in your closet, tend to them..

 

  Oh boy Daves here! Please tell everyone the inside story of trying to runover the Meadows drug investigators. 

[Dave McNeight Jr]

I am not howard read my post  I  talk about two people on this forum u and trump let's talk about the race were you had your boy parked the other horse  the one that did the parking came back welted up u want around bragging how u know how to get even with people so stick that in your toolbox   ps I met your son  very nice kid,  but the bible says you pay for the sins of your father.

Amazing person you are, you want to talk about this race in particular. This race was 10 years ago and it was the one that sent Howard Oriel over the edge. Ill be happy to talk about it. Howard had two horses in the same race, the one i trained had the rail, was the fav, the other one was long. Howard INSTUCTED ME to tell my driver to let his horse go in the first turn. GTFOH, lol, his one horse parked his other one. I was told the scene in the clubhouse was one for the books. Then howard pulled all his horses. At least he didnt run me over with his car, driving like a maniac like one of his many other previous trainers... funny Mr. " IM NOT  HOWARD " that you would pick this race to talk about...

[batavia24]

Hey Dave once again your 3rd grade education is showing Its not that crazy that a lot of people despise you Know for a fact the 3 people that were in charge of racing a few yrs back at Batavia couldn't stand your constant shit What happened that day at the Meadows anyway?You always side step that one Drawbar raging pace inside the track Dingus Talkintohisself Foalin at 4 Iwish they were me because they are much smarter than my KSU education Hey big congrats on your claim you should take him to Yonkers and race for 35K against Engblom Alexander Burke Davita All your mentors You da man Dave Heard the lawyer and Jack and Maria are wondering how you do it hahaha

[batavia24]

hey Dave call me 5852818039 Have to concentrate on my Cavs tonite thanks friend a

[Harness racer]

Who the fuck is David McNeight Jr?

[right way]

Who the fuck is David McNeight Jr?

Small track no one that is only as good as his gas in his tool box

[Tree Trunk]

Bunch of sour fuckers you guys are eh ? I hope Davey Day Trader runs off the screen and wins in 52 next week. 

[Harness racer]

He looked damn good in his last start.  I don't really follow that circuit, how does the son rate as a driver?  Drove him with a lot of confidence last start.

[Foalin at 4]

He looked damn good in his last start.  I don't really follow that circuit, how does the son rate as a driver?  Drove him with a lot of confidence last start.

   It's pretty easy to drive with confidence when daddy filled the vein with EPO!

[Harness racer]

   It's pretty easy to drive with confidence when daddy filled the vein with EPO!

Definitely looked strong...but that's quite an accusation.  Dave Jr., any rebuttal?

[Dingus]

Howard Oriel, aka talkstohisself and half a dozen other alter ego pen names you use on this forum to LITERALLY, talk to yourself. Your hatred for me is evident in all your ridiculous statements. Facts being HOWARD, you had horses with me that you made alot of money with. The problem wasnt the care your horses received, you always complimented me for the work we did and the care your horses got. And it showed on the track and off. You posted, your words, the biggest mistake you ever made in this business was hiring me. Fact is HOWARD i never trained a horse for you. All the Oriel horses i trained were for your brother Mike. All the horses that you owned were with another trainer. And the reason you left was because i refused to ask my son to line them up, and give them holes, and outright cheat because you had multiple horses in many races..you also expected my son to drive soft against your other horses when he drove horses that you didnt even own..your a clown, a liar, and ive never heard one good word said about you from anyone ever..but you do have money..so when all your "friends" are full or drunk enough from the bill that you always pick up you sit on this forum and bash people that eat away at YOUR soulless heart..you are nothing but a lonely old hypocrite..i will never explain to you my choices of claims or whom i claim from or if i changed shoes or hopples. Its none of your fucking business. You should try mind your own business for once, Howard you have alot of skeletons in your closet, tend to them..

Are you going to return the money you got from Arlene Cameron and Dirk Simpson for those 2 unfortunate horses that you loaded up with EPO and then sold?  I don’t believe either of those horses lasted more than a month before they had to be retired.  I’m talking about Musclehead Andy and Naturally Bad.  You should have been suspended for life rather than 2 years.

[Dave McNeight Jr]

Dingus, dingus, dingus..who the hell could you be..Naturally Bad was a sulking, shadow jumper that i bought off dean collins for 2500, i bought him because he could leave with the car. I raced him out of the field for 3or 4 starts and Dave was able to win with him. I put him and musclehead andy on eharness. I got a call from dirks owner wanting to but the horse. I would not sell him the horse without talking to dirk first. Dirk wanted him even though i told him the horse needed a B track. Imo he would not due at the meadows and he only won a couple dummy claimers for me.. he bought him anyway.musclehead andy i ended up amishing for enough money that would assure the horse would not end up in a kill pen..so maybe you bought him off the amish, Dan Miller to be precise. This is all verifiable, and i adressed this in 2019 when you were whining about it before. I cant help it that you are bad at this business. You also threatened to spit in my face. Easy to mouth off under an anonymous name. This is quite the cast of characters on this forum. Im done answering questions to cowards who hide behind anonymous names. Now if youll excuse me, i have to get back to the conclave. There are no phones allowed there and there waiting for my vote..