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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2025, 11:00:51 AM »
Looked bad didn't want to run over some one's money

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2025, 11:02:09 AM »
I am in no way defending his actions, but if you wanted to make sure you're not in the top 4, why get that close in the first place?

He's an idiot.  He wanted to make sure it looked like he was trying to avoid a fine/suspension.  These guys don't think.   What he doesn't realize is that everyone could see him on camera!  Guess he thought he would try to make a lame excuse after.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2025, 11:07:07 AM »
Wow!! That was as bad as I have seen in a long time. However, get real. Nothing will be done about it. HARNESS RACING=PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2025, 11:10:32 AM »
He wasn't even trying to hide that.  Running in my ass!  That's a fucking stiff job plain and simple.  He needs 30 days for that bullshit!  Cheating POS!  Someone please post points of contact for M1...they need to get flooded with complaints about that one!
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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2025, 11:12:11 AM »
He wasn't even trying to hide that.  Running in my ass!  That's a fucking stiff job plain and simple.  He needs 30 days for that bullshit!  Cheating POS!

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2025, 11:13:40 AM »
The more you watch the worse it looks. NJRC better intervene. And M1 cries about handle, keep supporting this shit. https://youtu.be/j3FaEJ01XrU

You can clearly see him look to his left while pulling back the reins.  Total stiff job!

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #21 on: April 13, 2025, 11:34:28 AM »
I watched the replay last night in it's entirety and coming around the final turn he had a perfect second over trip and looked loaded when tipping three wide. I don't think he got after the horse once during the stretch drive except a couple love taps on the sulky. He blatantly yanked that horse back the last 50 to 100 yards. This is the very definition of fixing a race. Here is the other evidence that is really damning that hasn't been mentioned. That was race 9 and it handled using round numbers $325,000. Race 8 only handled $239,000 and race 10 only handled $204,000. You can all make your conclusions from that.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #22 on: April 13, 2025, 12:03:46 PM »
I watched the replay last night in it's entirety and coming around the final turn he had a perfect second over trip and looked loaded when tipping three wide. I don't think he got after the horse once during the stretch drive except a couple love taps on the sulky. He blatantly yanked that horse back the last 50 to 100 yards. This is the very definition of fixing a race. Here is the other evidence that is really damning that hasn't been mentioned. That was race 9 and it handled using round numbers $325,000. Race 8 only handled $239,000 and race 10 only handled $204,000. You can all make your conclusions from that.

A member of my group pointed something out though, that includes the Pick 4 and Pick 7.
Now the question is, just how far do I want to go with this???

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2025, 12:31:52 PM »
A member of my group pointed something out though, that includes the Pick 4 and Pick 7.
That is a good point Mike, I didn't notice that, but it doesn't change the fact that the video evidence speaks for  itself. It happens all the time in harness and tbred and has for years and will continue forever.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2025, 12:35:40 PM »
That is a good point Mike, I didn't notice that, but it doesn't change the fact that the video evidence speaks for  itself. It happens all the time in harness and tbred and has for years and will continue forever.

I didn't either, I posted it on the group. Whatever the reason, he ripped that horse. I don't wanna hear he was gonna hook wheels or horse ran in. First you don't grab if you're going to hook wheels, you go forward. And Jason can't steer when his fucking handholds are behind his back. Fact is he chased the horse and he went forward. He ripped him and he dropped 3 positions in 100 feet.
Now the question is, just how far do I want to go with this???

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #25 on: April 13, 2025, 12:42:02 PM »
I didn't see Bartlett stop getting after the horse. What I see is him purposely grab the horse up and finish out of the top 4.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2025, 12:43:18 PM »
Alot of times even the top drivers stop getting after their horse when they don't think they can catch the front runner, and wind up getting passed by other horses in the process.

He chased him, gained positions then ripped for whatever reason. He wasn't running in when he grabbed him.
Now the question is, just how far do I want to go with this???

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2025, 12:50:39 PM »
He wasn't even trying to hide that.  Running in my ass!  That's a fucking stiff job plain and simple.  He needs 30 days for that bullshit!  Cheating POS!  Someone please post points of contact for M1...they need to get flooded with complaints about that one!

30 days that should be minimum 6 months and if I was in charge of licensing he'd never drive in my state again.  That was worse than any I have seen.  He was passing horses grabbed up and moved over. 

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2025, 01:14:01 PM »
Extremely bad optics, and no excuses. Check the #'s. It should not be a typical days/fine. I hope they make a statement with this one.

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Re: Lack of effort drive
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2025, 01:24:09 PM »
Just watched it. Real bad!!!

 

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