WHY WOULD YOU CALL HORSEPLOP GARBAGE?

[Harness Racing Revolution]

Perhaps you should tell that to Leticia James!

First to GH. I carry facts that you people can't deal with. And I'm not afraid to talk about it....AS MYSELF.
Secondly.....this . PATHETIC

WELFARE PURSES

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Perhaps you should tell that to Leticia James!

I don't know that I agree with the reasoning about the haters hating because they don't like what being said about their person, they can't handle the truth, etc. I have my own opinion as to why, but it doesn't matter. As far as James, I know her. Not well, but she's from and still lives in Brooklyn, went to HS with one of my best friends, and her and I share an alma mater. I liked her suit against the NRA and the NFL. Now she's dealing with a DOJ investigation and/or suit. Unfortunately, that can derail your day, work, term, etc. Also unfortunate is that like anyone in her position, the landscape becomes very, very political. So be it. As they say, this is the business we're in, LOL.

[Zack]

First to GH. I carry facts that you people can't deal with. And I'm not afraid to talk about it....AS MYSELF.
Secondly.....this . PATHETIC

WELFARE PURSES

don’t forget to give out your address dummy.

[Zack]

Perhaps you should tell that to Leticia James!
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I don't know that I agree with the reasoning about the haters hating because they don't like what being said about their person, they can't handle the truth, etc. I have my own opinion as to why, but it doesn't matter. As far as James, I know her. Not well, but she's from and still lives in Brooklyn, went to HS with one of my best friends, and her and I share an alma mater. I liked her suit against the NRA and the NFL. Now she's dealing with a DOJ investigation and/or suit. Unfortunately, that can derail your day, work, term, etc. Also unfortunate is that like anyone in her position, the landscape becomes very, very political. So be it. As they say, this is the business we're in, LOL.

we shall see it looks like she broke the law 3 times. She’s gonna have to pay.

[Zack]

First to GH. I carry facts that you people can't deal with. And I'm not afraid to talk about it....AS MYSELF.
Secondly.....this . PATHETIC

WELFARE PURSES

it’s simple just get a job like most of us.

[simplify]

84% is pitiful and embarrassing. Assume this # is for NY only but thinking other states are just as bad if not worse.

[Harness Racing Revolution]

it’s simple just get a job like most of us.

Get a job like you people? Tools of the welfare trade....pitchfor k, rake, wheelbarrow and broom. "This is all we know!!!". What you do is a hobby. You refuse to better yourself and learn valuable skills.
Nah. I invested my money into a service that actually generates revenue, not takes welfare to support it.
I have an education and skills beyond cleaning up a piss spot. So far over your heads you'd get nosebleeds.
And most of all, done with money I earned, not money taken from the state to support my business. 

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[Harness Racing Revolution]

84% is pitiful and embarrassing. Assume this # is for NY only but thinking other states are just as bad if not worse.

240 mil a year handed to harness racing in NYS aka WELFARE. NJ hands over 20 mil plus what Gural spends out of pocket. And Freehold is GONE now.

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[Harness Racing Revolution]

Pennsylvania. PATHETTTTTTTTTICC CCCCC. Pocono actually races for more each card than the total handle!!! 

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[Pacer 2]

240 mil a year handed to harness racing in NYS aka WELFARE. NJ hands over 20 mil plus what Gural spends out of pocket. And Freehold is GONE now.

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Why is NJ getting so little?

[Harness Racing Revolution]

   

Why is NJ getting so little?

NJ has no VLT revenue like NY. It does get revenue from the sports book at M1. That's not included here. NJ is dead.

[Harness Racing Revolution]

Someone get a message to Schnittker. Right now he's literally under my office at Delancey's. Why doesn't he come up and see me? Ya know, instead of beating up someone else over me like a bitch. 

[Grandstand Handicapper]

I don't call this site garbage, but I do think it's overrun by hate, negativity, and the like. I love how people say the business can't be self-sufficient without "subsidies". No kidding. Next tell me it's Friday. So what's the point? Because it can't survive, so then what? It should be shut down? Does that give someone the right to feel good and about being negative, spewing hate, criticism, etc.? Does that make all the hate justifiable? All of that and not being contributory and part of the solution to actually make the sport and the industry better?

That said, let's just look at this from a different perspective, and examine the monies, or subsidies, from the State. If these are subsidies, then what's the goal? Why give the monies? So the track doesn't shut down? Why do states and the US government give subsidies to----farmers, many other businesses, industries, and individuals as well. It is not a question of whether the recipient can survive without it.

For farmers and the farming industry, States and the US government provides subsidies----non-repayment loans, free gap and stop-loss insurance protection and coverage (they pay cash when weather and/or insects damage crops and agricultural products), and yes, cash, they give actual cash! They also pay to further develop and build new and modern farming practices, conservation efforts and practices, disaster aid, and more. Sure, the horseracing industry does none of that equivalent, but eventually they will.

States and the Federal government give subsidies to defense contractors as well. Don't tell me Haliburton can't survive without them. LOL.

States and the US government gives----loans, tax breaks, and yes grants, to energy and energy development businesses. They also give subsidies to numerous manufacturing industries/companies. Same with the aviation industry/companies. Also broadband and telecommunication s companies. They do even more for the railroad industry. There is state and US government subsidies for education, private school tuition vouchers.

How about a bit deeper, there are state and US government subsidies for housing. Is Medicaid and Medicare not a form of subsidy? Is Social Security? Sure, people pay into that, but there are people who pay into who can never collect. That's a redistribution of dollars. That happens every day. It's called taxes, LOL. So if you are calling for an end to all subsidies for the horseracing industry, why?

People throw around the word subsidy, and say end them. There are reasons for subsidies, whether or not the recipient can survive without it. Anyone and everyone who simply states without casinos and state money the track would close, are simply saying today is Friday. What's your point? Do you want to see the track close? It's Friday, yes, and that might be factually correct. But, it's not Friday everywhere in the world right now. Regardless, the person who says that----no casino/state money, no track---they are not a supporter or a fan of this sport and are not a participant in this business. Just because they say it's Friday. They can say they are. But IMO they are not. They are part of the problem, because they are not part of the solution.

[Harness Racing Revolution]

It's a product the public does not want. And the public ends up paying to support it. It contributes nothing to society. And the day its gone the only people who will notice are those who live off the welfare subsidies that support it. And then those subsidies can be earmarked to much more deserving, which is EVERYONE. And yes, that day will come.

[Kenny]

It's a product the public does not want. And the public ends up paying to support it. It contributes nothing to society. And the day its gone the only people who will notice are those who live off the welfare subsidies that support it. And then those subsidies can be earmarked to much more deserving, which is EVERYONE. And yes, that day will come.

Then why are you here? Hypocrite?