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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2025, 09:18:14 PM »
If they do this one minute per card, per week, or whatever, it's obvious they want to track impact. Thus, I am not expecting it will get eliminated completely. I hope, but don't expect. More importantly, I hope Gural implements what he said he was going to look at, and that is cutting off the CAW's X minute(s) to post. Not having a legitimate, true to schedule post time is bull$hit.

Gural is full of shit too.

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2025, 08:17:45 AM »
Getting more people to the "racetrack" and the "races" is not a "post time drag" conversation. It's like having cancer and talking about a splinter.

However, one question I think about is-----if you could get more people to the facility, should you be keeping them longer or shorter?

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2025, 08:21:35 AM »
The real issue is the amount of time BETWEEN races, regardless of when post time is.
I can't get anybody in my family to go to the races because all the dead time is a waste of time in their mind.  Times are changing.  People have short attention spans, and aren't interested in 8 minutes of action "squeezed" into an hour.

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2025, 08:29:38 AM »
True.....the NHL made changes in order to "speed up" the game and get people out/home sooner. The amount of time between races has long been a complaint. Unfortunately, shortening the time between races is counterintuitive to track management. However, with more people having more access to betting, getting your bet in easier, both on track and off track, they should be able to make up for it somehow.

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2025, 08:32:53 AM »
The real issue is the amount of time BETWEEN races, regardless of when post time is.
I can't get anybody in my family to go to the races because all the dead time is a waste of time in their mind.  Times are changing.  People have short attention spans, and aren't interested in 8 minutes of action "squeezed" into an hour.

Going strictly by the post times provided on ustrotting, there will be 25 mins between each race on Friday with the last race going on at 1145 pm. If true, gural is running the races at the same times as before but with 1 minute less of the clock of zero

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2025, 11:57:13 AM »
Gural and Settlemoir claim they hate the drag but when they tried reducing it last year, they gave up after only a few nights because they claim it hurt their handle alot. However, if the bettors know you're serious about it, they will adjust accordingly, because in this day and age if you ever get shut out, it's your own fault because most people are betting from home and the last time I checked, there's no one in front of you tying up the window.

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2025, 12:08:17 PM »
Going strictly by the post times provided on ustrotting, there will be 25 mins between each race on Friday with the last race going on at 1145 pm. If true, gural is running the races at the same times as before but with 1 minute less of the clock of zero

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2025, 10:29:29 PM »
If Gural et al actually do it, and I will stress the word if, if they do it, don't worry.....the haters here will still find plenty of reasons to hate him.

Personally, I think they are serious about it this time. I think they watched what NYRA did and now that they've had a working relationship with NYRA they can hopefully benefit from that. I still can't help but wonder, if the reduction of the drag impacts handle.....do you bite the bullet and forge ahead, or do you retreat. Listen, like him or not, Gural is a very smart man. If you don't think so, it simply shows how ignorant you are. I hope the drag experiment works. Obviously.

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2025, 11:50:18 PM »
Let's examine the "very smart" aspects of the wagering business

Created a pick 6 that handles nothing. Designed to generate Carryovers but hands it a $.20 base. Starts it 2 races before the late pick 4 (best wager they offer) <sigh>

Implements a survivor pick 7 that's unbelievably way worse than the wager above. Handles nothing. Nobody has interest as it doesn't meet any gambler segment. And it's still around every night for all of us to ignore.

Add as many amatuer driver races as possible

First to usher in caws to harness racing pools. Now has as bad or worse late odds movement than any parimutuel racetrack track in the world

Banked turns - failed
No holes/tuckes- total failure

The wagering advice given out on the telecast every night instantly kills anyone following. Couldn't possibly be worse or more wrong.

Now he's modeling drag after saratoga thoroughbred. Sure his intelligence simply can't be questioned when it comes to gambling 

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2025, 06:55:06 AM »
Big M management is trying

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2025, 12:00:46 PM »
Back in the hey day at Scioto, they delayed fairly often on Fri + Sat , not for drag but
because they were still lined clear down the road waiting to get in. People were paying
for parking and admission. I remember going for a number of years where I went under
the turnstile since I was that young and didn't have to pay. [Under 12 I believe] There
were like six lines [based on the Initial for last name] for reserved box seats and grandstand
seats. I remember waiting for 1/2 hr+ when my Dad and I didn't have reserved seats
[he preferred low and on the aisle] to wait for time to run out for people to pick up
their reservations.Thos e were the days! tmbz1

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2025, 06:37:03 PM »
race 1 off at 6:34


listed as 6:20 as per usual


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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2025, 06:53:07 PM »
They need the drag so Little and Otten can elaborate on their surefire losers.

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2025, 07:00:53 PM »
Does he want more people to bet?? The average bettor is betting less or not at all, for they see crazy late odds changes due to CAW. Last week, the odds changed past the 1/2..  Why doesn't the Meadowlands want to deal with the CAW ISSUE? Why?? It's a massive % of his handle.  Curious what the true amount is.I don't think the CAW would care when they are allowed to bet. They hammer the W/P/S pools. They're getting their % break, and they'll get their 1/5 or 1/9.  Interesting why Meadowlands doesn't want to deal with these CAWs,

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Re: Meadowlands Plans To Eliminate Post Time Drag
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2025, 07:08:21 PM »
of course they(CAW) dont care when they bet and a drag or no drag ...doesnt affect them--their money goes in after all other money

 

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