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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2025, 06:04:59 PM »
Balmoral closing was awful. At the end it was real cheap. Before that it was a good track to bet. I hope that harness racing becomes relevant again in IL.

So betting balmoral years ago is like currently betting Monticello now?

What were the pools like before balmoral closed compared to Monticello now??

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2025, 07:07:32 PM »
From an IHHA member  3 hrs ago

Deals if there ever was one IS OFF

CAREY THE NITWIT WONT SELL
 HE WANTS TO CONTROL
Everything  ngc3 ngc3 ngc3
Illinois racing is doomed.

We  DONE
REAL AMERICANS DONT TAKE A KNEE

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« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2025, 07:17:44 PM »
No four state series? Damn , I was about to start making plans. ngc3 No seriously, is anyone
actually surprised by this? How many rumors and proposals have there been that never panned out?

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2025, 08:55:41 PM »
What a sad demise of Illinois horse racing.  Only racing at Fairmount Park?  Who would have ever thought that years ago!

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #49 on: April 02, 2025, 12:17:01 AM »
ILLINOIS LAWMAKERS WON'T LET CARY CONTINUE TO SHOW NO EFFORT TO BUILD . THE TRACK WILL CLOSE AND BE SOLD AT AUCTION.
A RACINO WILL OPEN IN EARLY 2027 UNDER NEW OWNERSHIP

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2025, 09:39:39 AM »
The land will probably change hands, sure, but I predict it will be used for something profitable,
and that's not harness racing. 11.wp

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2025, 09:51:13 AM »
I am sure whatever is really going on, potential buyers, deals, and all that-----legally, strategically, politically, business, whatever-----all of it is light years above everybody's pay grade. Everybody hear that is. LOL. If enough people throw enough BS out there, someone will probably end up close to right. LOL. However it plays out, it's just another example of the where, how, etc., the state of the sport and industry has brought itself here.

I do know one thing for certain. The underbidder for Arlington was Roy Arnold, who had cash and plenty of it, unconditional, no use of debt money, to buy Arlington. He and his small group have been trying to buy a racetrack for quite some time. They don't need/want a full blown casino. They did want some alternative form(s) of gaming. If Hawthorne was at all viable, doable, whatever, he'd be a player. Between the debt(s), the liens (and I don't know if there are any actual judgments), the pending lawsuits (and don't forget the ones that were RICO, whistleblower, etc., which were only filed late last year and which could jeopardize the ability to conduct races), this may already be a case of the patient is too far gone. If that's the case, anything can happen.

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2025, 09:51:41 AM »
The land will probably change hands, sure, but I predict it will be used for something profitable,
and that's not harness racing. 11.wp

That's what it is in today's day and age.....highest and best use. Period.

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #53 on: April 02, 2025, 10:14:25 AM »
What a sad demise of Illinois horse racing.  Only racing at Fairmount Park?  Who would have ever thought that years ago!

Fairmount is only alive because they were purchased by  FanDuel

and they don't like people calling it Fairmount Park anymore

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #54 on: April 02, 2025, 10:49:35 AM »
hawthorne has just changed its name to
PIGEON PARK RACE TRACK
REAL AMERICANS DONT TAKE A KNEE

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2025, 12:23:03 PM »
hawthorne has just changed its name to
PIGEON PARK RACE TRACK
Get over it, you don’t even race there. It’s their track and $$$ they can do whatever they want with it. Otherwise step up and buy it.

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2025, 12:30:09 PM »
So, if Carey, and I say "IF" (aside from people saying he won't, wants control, etc.)-----IF Carey decides to sell, and a casino company is the buyer, do they have to (by current law) have live racing?

If so, will the casino company go with s-breds or t-breds?

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Re: Hawthorne sold! Announcement coming by 3/31!
« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2025, 12:44:32 PM »
So, if Carey, and I say "IF" (aside from people saying he won't, wants control, etc.)-----IF Carey decides to sell, and a casino company is the buyer, do they have to (by current law) have live racing?

If so, will the casino company go with s-breds or t-breds?
Does it even matter? If there is no sale tmbz1



 

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