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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2025, 12:15:14 PM »
yes helmets are great. and they can prevent a serious injury.  with that being said it only protects very little of the body. even vest. yes they will help some but still the drivers are super vulnerable in a wreck.
 i wonder if any changes will be made. im not sure what changes could be made. driver are just in  dangerous position anytime they take the track.
if i were one of the drivers involved id seriously have to reconsider going out there again. the money is great for the top guys. but it isnt everything.

I totally agree.  I don't know what changes can be made.  Possibly making drivers sit up and stop this laying back in the bike?  I do believe this will change some things among drivers.  Less games being played on the track.   I don't know how some of them can go back behind a horse after this.   Won't be easy for some

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2025, 12:20:46 PM »
Look how far back the driver is compared to the the old bikes.  It also allows the horse on top an extra. 2 x3 ft..  all in the desire to make the horses go faster and faster.  Speed sells stud fees.  Another USTA (breeder run outfit)  not looking at safety factors.

100% !!!   Everything is about speed and $$.  I just can't see how lying back so far so where you're almost flat can be safe.  It needs to be addressed.  These guys can't possibly see in front of them to be able to react fast enough. 

They really need to clean up the sport by getting rid of the dopers.  A small fine and suspension isn't enough.   If they get caught once ..okay but when it's multiple times....they should be BANNED PERMANENTLY !!   And none of this changing trainer name to a driver or some stupid shit.  They need to do better at following these dopers and stop the games!

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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2025, 12:24:54 PM »
Owners and breeders, who run the sport--stare at the clock more than bettors do

they are enamored by a final quarter go sub 26 and they absolutely love $5k claimers going 48 at The Red Mile

that is part of the reason they don't want to rid the industry of the doping-because without the drugs they wouldn't go as nearly as fast

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2025, 01:04:35 PM »
I drove a Single Shaft, you didn't have to lie straight back like they do now.

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2025, 01:12:57 PM »
You didn't have to, but some drivers were so far back I don't know how they could see.

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #50 on: March 21, 2025, 02:17:49 PM »
They can't

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #51 on: March 21, 2025, 11:19:02 PM »
Seriously for once. I want your opinions here. This mare Dandy's Starlette was entered 11 times this year. Scratched four, ran the last 16th lame in between two scratches, two of them qualifiers and then what we all saw happen. When you watch previous starts you'll notice something on her head that she wasn't wearing the other day. And when you key in on her in all her replays you begin to see a pattern. Obviously something going on with her. She's right back in this Wednesday too. But watching the replay she "leaped" over something that wasn't there.

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #52 on: March 22, 2025, 01:15:00 AM »
I dont seatbelts would be more dangerous....

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #53 on: March 22, 2025, 01:54:09 AM »

Well, it couldn’t have been much worse.  Give it a chance, time for the judges to enforce the leaning back rule.


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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2025, 05:25:03 AM »
Seriously for once. I want your opinions here. This mare Dandy's Starlette was entered 11 times this year. Scratched four, ran the last 16th lame in between two scratches, two of them qualifiers and then what we all saw happen. When you watch previous starts you'll notice something on her head that she wasn't wearing the other day. And when you key in on her in all her replays you begin to see a pattern. Obviously something going on with her. She's right back in this Wednesday too. But watching the replay she "leaped" over something that wasn't there.


I agree this horse has something wrong with it, but it didn’t start this accident.  Palone’s horse did.

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #55 on: March 22, 2025, 06:02:22 AM »
I dont seatbelts would be more dangerous....

100% true.  a true seatbelt is not a solution.

Could they possibly come up with a strap to slow you down when thrown from the bike

something with a small strip of Velcro that would break free, but minimize how far and hard you got thrown?

I think it's worth discussing and seeing if there's somwthing that can be done

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2025, 06:12:10 AM »
A driver needs to be able to move his body around some during the race if only to pop the earplugs so strapping him in wouldn't work. Accidents happen in horse racing and with motor vehicles, and cars are equipped with all kinds of safety equipment but sometimes even that's not enough to prevent a fatality.

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2025, 08:07:32 AM »
100% true.  a true seatbelt is not a solution.

Could they possibly come up with a strap to slow you down when thrown from the bike

something with a small strip of Velcro that would break free, but minimize how far and hard you got thrown?

I think it's worth discussing and seeing if there's somwthing that can be done

If you've ever sat in one of today's bikes it is what it is. Gravity keeps your ass in the seat and forward pressure you feet on the pegs. All a seat belt would do is bring the bike with you. The catapulting really can't be stopped either. I'd start with the handholds gotta go up and there has to be a limit to the leaning.
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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2025, 03:44:17 PM »
I agree this horse has something wrong with it, but it didn’t start this accident.  Palone’s horse did.

My trainer had 1 of the ones that fell in the race.  He said Palone’s horse jumped a shadow.

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Re: Meadows accident race 11
« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2025, 04:02:41 PM »
If you've ever sat in one of today's bikes it is what it is. Gravity keeps your ass in the seat and forward pressure you feet on the pegs. All a seat belt would do is bring the bike with you. The catapulting really can't be stopped either. I'd start with the handholds gotta go up and there has to be a limit to the leaning.
Hand holds are the most useless  piece of equipment in harness racing today. 

A great young man gone and nothing will change. 

 

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