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OF JENNY

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USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« on: March 05, 2025, 12:23:30 PM »
on the usta website they are doing damage control from an article in the new york times. the industry is dieing a slow death.
i still think it can be saved but it would need DRASTIC CHANGES. im not sure anyone within the usta has the balls to make such changes. its many changes not just the dope or the fraud. if it doesnt happen fast it wall all be a distant memory.
the industry was called out.  lets see how this plays out over time.
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2025, 12:38:59 PM »
"called out" with quite a few lies and omissions.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2025, 12:57:46 PM »
What they are steering away from is that casino tax money given to the horsemen could be used for something everyone benefits from or lower others tax obligations.  Horsemen feel entitled to this money yet keep shooting themselves in the foot at every turn.  Whether it’s dying horses or federal doping scandals, why are horsemen entitled to anything?  I love harness racing, but something needs to change.
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2025, 01:04:09 PM »
fantastic. so all racetracks are self sufficient.
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2025, 01:08:23 PM »
they wanna talk about how lasix is therapeutic (oh look we are trying to help them).  do horses get lasix in the wild? among other things that get put into there systems?
do you think these animals want to do what they are doing?  maybe some.
take away the casino money now where are you at? non-functional and bankrupt.
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2025, 01:09:05 PM »
First, I don't think it's a matter of anyone at the USTA having the balls-----I think it's the intellect, the capability, capacity, etc.! Second, the USTA does not have the standing (or the credibility) to do this either. It will be a weak message, from a weak organization. Third, they simply are not a governing body. Plain and simple. When a person or organization, that doesn't have the standing, authority, or scope (vis a vis their authoritative purview) starts to insert themselves into controversial, fragile, difficult, etc., situations, when they take positions, make statements, tries to bring about change-----it makes matters worse.
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2025, 01:25:28 PM »
Quote from: Grandstand Handicapper on March 05, 2025, 01:09:05 PM
First, I don't think it's a matter of anyone at the USTA having the balls-----I think it's the intellect, the capability, capacity, etc.! Second, the USTA does not have the standing (or the credibility) to do this either. It will be a weak message, from a weak organization. Third, they simply are not a governing body. Plain and simple. When a person or organization, that doesn't have the standing, authority, or scope (vis a vis their authoritative purview) starts to insert themselves into controversial, fragile, difficult, etc., situations, when they take positions, make statement, tries to bring about change-----it makes matters worse.
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2025, 01:33:44 PM »
two sentences

casino money  harness racing
no casino money no harness racing...
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2025, 02:07:54 PM »
Quote from: davenchop on March 05, 2025, 01:33:44 PM
two sentences

casino money  harness racing
no casino money no harness racing...

I guess we can debate whether that's a sentence or not, LOL, however, I have two questions.....one, all "casino money," are those monies all "subsidies?" Two, what about monies from the (respective) state(s), whatever you want to call it, purse enhancements, aid, whatever.....are all those monies "subsidies" as well?
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2025, 02:16:16 PM »
i would have to say both are subsidising the harness racing industry.
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2025, 03:08:13 PM »
Why do you think casinos are at racetracks?
Oh ya, the property is licensed for gaming.
Seems like those casinos NEEDED the racetrack in order to get started.

Places like WEG are simply landlords now, charging rent. They don't get a cut of casino action.
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2025, 03:09:45 PM »
but now the casinos are self sustaining which the racetracks are not. so are they just suppose to carry the tracks forever and ever?
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2025, 03:38:13 PM »
Quote from: mwins on March 05, 2025, 03:08:13 PM
Why do you think casinos are at racetracks?
Oh ya, the property is licensed for gaming.
Seems like those casinos NEEDED the racetrack in order to get started.

Places like WEG are simply landlords now, charging rent. They don't get a cut of casino action.

Wait are you saying the racetracks would survive without casino $$? Who the f cares what it is licensed for....bottom line is once this info gets out to the general pop they will all say WHATTHEFUCK?
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2025, 03:43:51 PM »
DOGE INCOMING
CLEAN UP THE WASTE
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Re: USTA DAMAGE CONTROL
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2025, 04:33:07 PM »
The casino owners knew what they were getting into when they signed up with racetracks. They are the ones trying to wiggle out of their agreement.
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