Author Topic: A A RON DEFENSE FUND  (Read 8650 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

NOTHING BUT TRUTHS

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1143
Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2025, 10:20:20 AM »
he doesnt have a problem.  just ask him.  you cant help someone who doesnt want to help himself.  he should of been in treatment already. a judge would see that as someone who is remorseful and wanting to better themselves.
i wonder if he has to wear an alcohol monitor on his ankle.

Bitter Truth

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1953
Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2025, 10:38:20 AM »
Jenny if you go to the 'Asking for a friend' thread , page 18, I looked up and detail the penalties
[alcohol monitoring included] 'IF' indeed this is his 4th DUI. tmbz1

Grandstand Handicapper

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 2223
  • Which wolf wins? The one you feed.
Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2025, 12:17:23 PM »
Don't forget, private property rights baby.

Here's the way an OH attorney explained it-----oversimplified-----when charged/arrested, the racing commission has the authority to suspend his license immediately. If they do, he will appeal, sue (due process and all), whatever; and probably win, get a stay, etc. Innocent until proven guilty and all that. If they don't suspend his license, OK, your license is fine, for the time being. NOW, the tracks themselves----with private ownership----they appear to have private property rights. They can say your license fine, but we don't want you. If they do, he can sue, but winning that is a tougher lift. If there is a documented history as to other reasons why they tossed him, even better, and for him to win is even tougher. Conduct that is detrimental to their business. Document it every time. Is it this simple? No, of course not. But it can give an idea as to how this may play out.

Personally, and I am not referring to this case, I never thought racing's governing bodies and the tracks did enough. In so many of the cases I've seen, trainers who got suspended always got some high-powered attorney, and the state, commission, and/or the track, got some hack and they got their a$$ handed to them (most of the time). Gural doesn't play like that. He plays to win and he hires killers who do win. Where's Howard Taylor by the way? Nevermind.

Apparently privately-held/owned businesses appear to have different rules here on this BB than they do in the real world, but it's the real world that counts.  ::)

Call Sign Merlin

  • Top Claimer
  • ***
  • Posts: 245
Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2025, 01:58:48 PM »
did the ravens wait until ray rice was found guilty to cut him?
did the chiefs wait until kareem hunt was found guilty to cut him?
did the NBA wait until ja morant was found guilty to suspend him?
did the texans wait until deshaun watson was found guilty to sit him?
some of these people git second chances which i msure aaron will. but they were sat down before any verdict or even legal action was taken.


All these people were employed by these teams or agencies and the individual was placed on paid leave while the court proceedings played out.  This is not an equivalent. 

As Grandstand correctly stated - the tracks and commissions aren’t going to get over their skis for fear of a lawsuit.  Why spend the money defending a lawsuit now when it appears that on short order, once he is convicted, they will have the ability to do what they want with more standing - assuming bylaws contain something that can support a suspension.

I don’t know why everyone is so wrapped up in what the tracks and jurisdictions are doing when the trainers could solve this tomorrow.  He has a drive in every race at both tracks every night and has since the incident
« Last Edit: February 17, 2025, 02:00:22 PM by Call Sign Merlin »

NOTHING BUT TRUTHS

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 1143
Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2025, 02:24:32 PM »
i just dont think his drive checks come from bill bercury or bill rhoades.  he isnt paid directly by them. they may request he drive their horses for whatever the reason.

Harness racer

  • Elite
  • ******
  • Posts: 4088
Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2025, 02:32:08 PM »
Business is full of scumbags with no morals.  People still put up Allard to drive.  What's that tell you about the business?  Trainers want the best driver, no matter if he's a pedophile or a drunk who has no respect for anyone.  What has Nance called it for years?  DEAD GAME LADDIES!!!

moelarrythecheese

  • Stakes Horse
  • *****
  • Posts: 896
Re: A A RON DEFENSE FUND
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2025, 11:09:18 PM »
Windows Tint? It’s Northfield, Ohio,not Death Valley.

 

shout out

Refresh History
  • Sound off !
  • Trigger: ***A Special Plop Alert*** Two versions of the Twilight Zone theme are available for you if you read a post and it's bat shit crazy...Long version for long posts you read [link]  Short version for shorter posts you read [link] ...There is no corruption and our government is fine, just hit play and you'll be fine, then respond!   ;D
    Today at 11:03:48 AM
  • Trigger: Uncle Kirby, you mean the Trump cuts EBT...in Harness?   ngc3 I need a stimulant, something, tired from capping, and I have pussy on the brain more than normal and reasonably healthy lately!   ;D
    October 29, 2025, 11:37:41 PM
  • Kirby's Ace: Political
    October 29, 2025, 11:16:43 PM
  • Kirby's Ace: Take your polictal babling to the polictal category.  Thank you.
    October 29, 2025, 11:15:48 PM
  • Trigger: Dear MAGA, fuck the democraps, they're wrong! If you admire a man, a leader, our leader, who wears a shit ton of make up, and goes to the beauty parlor every day to get his hair just right, say his name 30-40+ times a week, you're not a Faaaaaag!   ;D
    October 29, 2025, 11:08:12 PM
  • LUCPARK: I dont remember. I never heard of you back then. Plops was different it was actually fun to post. Now I’m even gone. Unless silly shit about nonsense I post just for a few laughs
    October 29, 2025, 06:47:37 PM
  • Ignorance Is Bliss: I don't know him, just that the plop name you responded about still posts. I'll keep it on the down low.
    October 29, 2025, 06:46:49 PM
  • LUCPARK: Rich used to fvk with me daily back then.  He’s been off here for many yrs.   Few guys on here knew rich more personally than me.  Why is rich ok. I heard yrs ago his mom and dad had passed.   Haven’t talked to him I. 13 yrs or longer
    October 29, 2025, 06:45:30 PM
SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal