CON-federate vs. Bythemissal TVG pace November 25th!

[Harness racer]

I do not hate Confederate. What I don't like is how Diamond Creek and others operate in a way which is bad for racing.

The guy from Diamond Creek seems like a jerk.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

If everyone wants a great race, then we need Confederate and Bythemissal to draw near each other. It's unfortunate that post position draw is more important than how good your horse is but that's racing.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

I do not hate Confederate. What I don't like is how Diamond Creek and others operate in a way which is bad for racing.

I feel sorry for Confederate. How would you like to be woken up at midnight 3 or 4 times a week to have "blood drawn" 

[Generation XYZ]

Bowden is going to get by the missal right up his ass! Can't wait.

[wiseowl]

May be some owners are jerk but there are jerks every where a lot here with their hate of others I wish any one that races the best of luck cause in this world it only last so long .

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

May be some owners are jerk but there are jerks every where a lot here with their hate of others I wish any one that races the best of luck cause in this world it only last so long .

I'm the exact opposite. I want the cheaters put in prison. I could never wish them the best of luck.

[Generation XYZ]

Wise owl is just a Hooter!

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

Wise owl is just a Hooter!

[Harness racer]

I agree a few could win.  I'd like Confederate to win even though his owner seems like a jerk.

[Generation XYZ]

The owners think they are above the little people in the business. Bowden operates as though he's untouchable. Well at least until he's not.

[Brown jug]

why would confederate race at 4 
i dont see the connection to no handouts and him racing at 4
if there is no subsidy( not called handouts) from casinos than purses would decline as well
it comes down to $ and he can make far more at stud than racing

[The Thorn]

why would confederate race at 4 
i dont see the connection to no handouts and him racing at 4
if there is no subsidy( not called handouts) from casinos than purses would decline as well
it comes down to $ and he can make far more at stud than racing

Why?  Gural Rule .. not a career detriment but still important to many people to be able to race their top stock at Big M even if it's just a few races.

Handouts ??  To this horse?  He's not racing in overnights only the biggest stakes and they should not be affected.

Probably would make a bit more if only at stud but he could race 8 to 10 times still service some mares and get the best of both worlds. 

[Grandstand Handicapper]

Confederate should be the favorite. With people and their money making the odds, I can only hope he's the heavy favorite. If he is, I'll go the other way and bet Bythemissal, although I'll do so begrudgingly, LOL. If I don't like the odds, I could pass on the race too. I just need to find value, and/or an edge. I am sure both horses will be prepped, primied, and ready to roll. But, big money, big notch on the belt, getting a horse to step up when needed. Nobody better than Brett Pelling. It may be 95% horse, but that other 5% can make the difference in a race like this.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

This is not a match race. Tattoo Artist will be there in his last race as well. Bulldog was a sure thing at Lexington last fall until the race happened.

Good luck. Tattoo Artist got his bridle ripped off in his last start by a superior horse. He will have to improve to go with the top two but that is why they race the race, anything can happen.

[MIKE CAMPBELL]

It was not that long ago that you could have used that same phrase se about what Tattoo Artist did to Bythemissal. In the best interests of the sport I hope Bythemissal wins and any other geldings in the race finish second and third. They will be racing next year which is good for the sport.

Bythemissal has 26 wins in 32 lifetime starts. Tatoo Artist is a notch or two below. IMO